Things that you should know about the ships

[Travelcat2]

There is currently a thread about what is good about Regent. Well, almost everything, so, it should be a short thread.

What comes up every couple of weeks are questions about particular ships. Whether it be where the best suites are, about possible vibrations on the ship, do you really need to book dining reservations in advance etc. So, let's talk about that. Here is my take.

Suites in general: I learned from an officer on board to always look at what is above the suite you are want to select. Is the pool above? If so, you probably will hear scraping of chairs during the day (not a big deal to most people). Also, if you are near the tenders, you will hear noise when they are raised or lowered. This will only happen twice a day.

Are you below the gym? The noise issue is obvious. If you prone to seasickness, select a suite on a low deck -- mid-ship.

Dining reservations: Prime 7 debuted this year and remains extremely popular. It really is necessary to book as soon as you can (30 days prior to the date of sailing) online in order to get a reservation for the day you would like. At the moment, Signatures is not as difficult to reserve. Can you just walk in and get a table? Generally not, but, some people have been fortunate. Usually, if you are willing to join a larger table, it will be easier to get that reservation.

Vibration(s). The Mariner does not have a vibration. The Voyager was damaged after she was first built and does have an aft vibration that seems to be affected by the speed of the ship. It is felt only exclusively in the aft of the ship. The higher the deck, the more the vibration.

The Navigator's vibration is caused by it's hull. As repeat passengers know, this was initially going to be a Russian spy ship. When the Solviet Union fell, it was just sitting there. It was purchased and built into the Navigator. To us, this is the most intimate ship of the three. This vibration if a a bit stronger than on the Voyager -- but only in rough seas (at least that has been our experience). In calm seas there can be little if any vibration. To be safe, book a suite low and mid-ship.

Will let others pipe in and give their opinions.:)

[OrpingtonT]

Now this is an interesting post and I am led to wonder can be it’s purpose. It is negative in the extreme, offering only aspects of Regent ships which the poster suggests are poor. Why should Regent ships be singled out for supposed noise below the top deck or by the tenders or indeed by the gym. Noise from anchors was omitted but I guess some “officer” may have noticed it and commented. And why comment on the selection of a mid-ship suite to minimise sea-sickness. This is not peculiar to Regent, I guess.
Dining reservations are really no problem providing the advance booking system is working. I have heard of no-one who hasn’t been able to get a table during their cruise, sometimes more than once.
What can prospective Cruisers learn or think about this post except to leave Regent well alone. You will pay a lot of money for a possibly noisy suite, pitching up and down, without getting your night in a preferred restaurant.
I will just add the disarming JMHO !!!

[Travelcat2]

Now this is an interesting post and I am led to wonder can be it’s purpose. It is negative in the extreme, offering only aspects of Regent ships which the poster suggests are poor. Why should Regent ships be singled out for supposed noise below the top deck or by the tenders or indeed by the gym. Noise from anchors was omitted but I guess some “officer” may have noticed it and commented. And why comment on the selection of a mid-ship suite to minimise sea-sickness. This is not peculiar to Regent, I guess.
Dining reservations are really no problem providing the advance booking system is working. I have heard of no-one who hasn’t been able to get a table during their cruise, sometimes more than once.
What can prospective Cruisers learn or think about this post except to leave Regent well alone. You will pay a lot of money for a possibly noisy suite, pitching up and down, without getting your night in a preferred restaurant.
I will just add the disarming JMHO !!!

"Negative to the extreme"????? What would have been negative is if people like myself had not known about these things. Do you really think a Regent officer would advise us not to book a suite under the gym to hurt Regent? Would you have preferred me to state: All of the suites are wonderful -- it doesn't matter which one you book? You won't get seasick anywhere and there is absolutely no noise on board Regent ships? And perhaps. . . . don't worry about making a dining reservation in advance. It's no big deal if it is booked up -- you always have Compass Rose (which is excellent).

These questions are asked on a regular basis. Those of us who answer the questions and make suite recommendations are usually thanked for the information we provide.

Please do not turn a thread that was meant to be a general discussion into something negative. That is not fair to the people reading it. If you disagree with anything posted, you can always give the other side of the story.

[hondorner]

I do not see this thread as negative, but rather as a counterpoint to the thread "For New Regent Cruisers", which is intended to be all glowingly positive, and in which the OP suggested a counterpoint thread be started for essential but not necessarily negative information.

I suspect this thread will be shorter than the other one.

[Border Rat]

I respectfully disagree with the idea that Travelcat2's original post was in any way negative. This is precisely the type of information that I was looking for when I started reading this forum. As a first time cruiser and first time Regent customer I was very interested in hard-to-find details about the ships and the company. Every item in the original post has been said more than once in other posts over the past few months. It seems reasonable to put them all together since these are things people obviously want to know.

[OrpingtonT]

I see it as negative because there is not a single thing there, except perhaps the issue of vibration, which does not apply to every cruise ship. All can be noisy and I, personally, see no reason to suggest Regent has these problems more than others.. Indeed the positive side could be emphasised that Regent's insulation is very good and to be commended.

[Travelcat2]

I see it as negative because there is not a single thing there, except perhaps the issue of vibration, which does not apply to every cruise ship. All can be noisy and I, personally, see no reason to suggest Regent has these problems more than others.. Indeed the positive side could be emphasised that Regent's insulation is very good and to be commended.

Again, the purpose was a discussion. Stating that the insulation is very good is something I didn't think about.

I also do not disagree that suite selection is similiar on different ships (except for the fact that Regent does not have obstructed views and inside cabins). The fact that suite selection may be similiar on Regent does not change the fact that this is information that news cruisers ask all the time.

Can online reservations be made at speciality restaurants on all ships? I truly don't know. I should have added that there is no extra charge for these dining venues.

Also forgot to state differences between the Navigator and the other two ships in terms of size and number of dining venues and the smaller suites on the Mariner. . . . there are lots of things to share . . . that was the purpose of starting this thread.

Maybe someone should start a 3rd one -- a debate about Regent. Then it will be acceptable to be combative:confused:

[canadagal]

I've never understood why people get so uptight about a deck chair being moved or several chairs being moved above them on the pool deck or in restaurants etc. It's not like the noise is continuous or happening non stop every day. Guess it's just me, but I don't get what's the big deal. Editing to add, that if you have a butler then you will not have a problem getting a reservation. They seem to always get what the layman can't. Also, even without the butler I never had any trouble getting reservations for dining as long as I wasn't leaving it to the same day. I love the Navigator but like the rest of you I would always make sure I didn't book near the vibration.
Pat

[Wendy The Wanderer]

Yes, let's stop arguing, children.

Navigator is smaller and a bit more intimate. It has fewer dining choices than Mariner or Voyager. But the public areas are very nice (I think.) She was built as an ice-class ship, so has an ordinary hull with no navigation pods. Quite a bouncy little ship in big swells. Very nice pool deck. Show lounge can be fairly bouncy and unstable during heavy weather as well. Staterooms, even mid-ship, can creak a bit.

Voyager has this pesky vibration from damage received on its shakedown cruise. So avoid certain aft cabins; get advice from an experienced TA on this one. Other than that, I can't say anything negative. La Veranda is a casual-always dining room, but be aware that on formal nights you still need a jacket on the lounges, even if you go to La Veranda. Voyager can rock and roll too, in large waves, but is very stable most of the time.

[Host Dan]

Yes, let's stop arguing, children.

Please don't put it quite that way! ;)

Host Dan

[Travelcat2]

Please don't put it quite that way! ;)

Host Dan

:D:D

Okay -- the best nights to dine in Compass Rose (IMO) are the nights of the Captain's Reception (typically the 2nd night) and the Captain's Farewell. Compass Rose seems to have an extra special menu on those evenings.

In any restaurant, you can order double portions, ask for an appetizer to be served as a main course (or visa versa).

Side note on the Navigator -- they currently have two dining venues and will have three after dry dock in January, 2010 when Prime 7 will be added.

The Mariner has the most public spaces -- even more than it's sister ship, the Voyager. Although similiar in size, the Mariner's smaller suites gives the rest of the ship a lot more space. The Navigator has lovely, smaller public spaces and did not have enough room to add the coffee corner (they do have a wonderful coffee machine in the Navigator bar).

[mariners]

We have only sailed on the Mariner and Navigator. On the Mariner, coffee/cappuccino/etc. and tea are available from a machine (self-serve) 24 hours a day that is right beside the coffee bar. On the Navigator, the same type of machine is available in the lounge on deck 11. For those people who like to walk/jog; there is designated space available on both ships but there are time constraints for certain areas to ensure that noise does not affect people who are booked in the suites below these areas. If it is too windy on those decks, the pool deck has some protection and tends to be empty very early in the morning :D. Some people are quite grumpy in the later hours (after 7:00 a.m.) and do not like to be "overtaken" when doing their laps, but will move if they know you are behind them. Do not assume that all people can hear you and will automatically move.
If you smoke, both the pool deck and deck 11 on the Navigator are used by morning smokers. You can smoke in some of the lounges and, though I no longer do, some of "us" are happy to sit with you. The Mariner has a variety of options for people who smoke and someone who has travelled on her more recently could chime in to give you current information.
If you are mailing postcards, make sure that the country you are mailing them to (unless you are from the USA) is in large letters and pointed out to staff or they go in to cyberspace.
If you do not have a room service menu in the binder, ask your room attendant. If you want specific alcohol in your room, ask your room attendant. If you are a diabetic and would like certain snacks in the room, let your room attendant know. If you want to sit with others in the dining room/if you'd like to sit alone while you dine, ask the maitre'd. If you want a specific meal and have not seen it offered, ask the maitre'd. If you want food with more spice, let the waiter know and you will get more spice (some you add yourself to ensure it is not too spicy). If you want to do your own laundry, soap is provided but anything you use in the dryer such as static cling sheets/balls are not. If you expect formal dining, do not go to the buffet for breakfast/lunch. Instead, go to Compass Rose. I'm sure others will chime in with their suggestions.

[Travelcat2]

When you are disembarking the ship at a port, there are bottles of water for you to take with you -- Regent towels if you are in a beach area and umbrellas if it is raining.

When we were last on the Navigator, in addition to detergent for the washing machine, there was some type of automatic hook-up to dispense softener. Really beautiful Miele machines -- wish I had them at home.

Tea in the afternoon is lovely (no requirement to drink tea:-) This is followed by Trivia which is well attended and very competitive. If you are a couple on your own, don't be surprised if you are asked to join a group (maximum 6 in a group). They need as many brains working on the questions as possible.

[Border Rat]

After a rocky start this is turning into a most educational and useful thread. Even though I've been reading everything on this forum for several months I've learned a lot already. Keep it coming, please.

[Travelcat2]

Just a quickie. . . . for breakfast at Sundays there is caviar & champagne/mimosa's. We prefer going to La Veranda (on the Mariner or Voyager) or Portofino on the Navigator as it is usually help yourself. The caviar is set out with all the proper accoutrements. Alternatively, you can order caviar with your breakfast in Compass Rose:)

[Colonel(Ret.)Wes]

We generally plan to board just before noon, hand carry our formal wear go directly to our cabin. We then introduce ourselves to our steward/ess; hang our formal wear then head for a leisurally lunch. Normally, after lunch our cabin is ready and we can unpack,
check with steward/ess on our special requests. We then take a quick tour on board, verifying our spa appointments. We are then ready to enjoy a relaxing sailaway.

We prefer the Heidsek monopole champagne over the Regent daily pour and request it daily.

If you like to take a steam bath or sauna they are available at the spa at no charge in
separate men and women's area.

We like to jog, on the Voyager have found 0545-0645 is optimum time--not a lot of
traffic. Another optimum time for a jog/swim is between 6:15-7pm when the majority
of cruisers are getting dressed for dinner.

On the Voyager we enjoy a drink or two before dinner in the observation lounge..great service, view and music.

This has been mentioned before, but if you would like another dining opportunity
in Prime7 or Signatures see the M'D at lunch and ask to be waitlisted or if ask if space is available.

Please do not be a satellite newspaper hog and take the libary copies from the library--so the printed copies remain in the libary for everyone's use..for luxury use some of your OBC to buy your own copies of USA Today, WSJ delivered every a.m. to your cabin.

In the Compass Rose if you have found an area/waiter/waitress that are the bomb, request that area to be seated in when you come in for dinner.

Please take time to fill out the end of cruise critique and by name highlight the
crew that have gone above and beyond the call of service. I email Mark Conroy
directly when crew members have truly excelled.

When you return please post your comments (better a review) on CC.

Most importantly, Fair Winds and Following Seas and have a truly great Regent Cruise

[Travelcat2]

Preview the evening menu's in the Gaileo Lounge on the Navigator, or the Observation Lounge on the Mariner or Voyager (all meals are also shown on television).

[Rally]

Please don't put it quite that way! ;)

Host Dan

Children???? ON REGENT???? Say it ain't so!!! The horror!!!!

[janisegn]

- if you're in a suite with Butler service, you will have canapes delivered daily, late afternoon - you can request what you would like

- if you're in a suite without Butler service you may still request canapes be delivered daily

- if you feel like staying in for an evening and just watching tv, hot, buttered popcorn is a nice treat (or anything else you'd like!)

- ask at the desk for a tour of the bridge - it's fun to see and nice to talk with crew members - you also get a peak at some of the officers' quarters - and while on the bridge, get your picture taken sitting in the Captain's chair

- ask for a tour of the kitchens - really interesting!

- if it's your first Regent cruise, don't wait until the last couple of days to get out and experience the whole ship - unfortunately we did just that and i'm afraid we missed out on quite a lot

[cands]

This thread is really interesting. Thanks to all the contributors.

We are in the process of deciding on the Sept 8, 2010 cruise from Vancouver to Beijing on Navigator. I can assure you that as a potential new cruiser on Regent and a regular reader of CruiseCritic, that the recent tone of posts on other threads has been very entertaining to read and had no effect on whether we choose Regent.

We will be choosing one of the lowest grade cabins on Navigator. Can someone explain the difference in deck 5 and 6 ocean view cabins? It looks from the plans like the deck 6 cabins have some sort of companionway outside the window.

Thanks,
Steve.

[Anna B.]

This thread is remarkable.....so much information! Thank you, Travelcat, for starting this, and to all the rest of you with such invaluable information to share!

[SanFranCruizer]

Yes, great information.

[Travelcat2]

This thread is really interesting. Thanks to all the contributors.

We are in the process of deciding on the Sept 8, 2010 cruise from Vancouver to Beijing on Navigator. I can assure you that as a potential new cruiser on Regent and a regular reader of CruiseCritic, that the recent tone of posts on other threads has been very entertaining to read and had no effect on whether we choose Regent.

We will be choosing one of the lowest grade cabins on Navigator. Can someone explain the difference in deck 5 and 6 ocean view cabins? It looks from the plans like the deck 6 cabins have some sort of companionway outside the window.

Thanks,
Steve.

On deck 6, the starboard side are suites with balconies category E. You're correct about the suites on the port side -- they have a walkway used by the crew (category G window suites). I would think you would need to keep your curtains drawn during the day. All of deck 5 are category G window suites.

The two suites on deck 6 that are talked about quite a bit on the boards is "600" and "601". Both are over 500 sq. ft. -- 600 is a window suite -- 601 a balcony. There is one rather big drawback to these two suites. Very early in the morning there is a horrendous noise (not sure if it is the anchor or ???). Other than that, it's fine. It does feel the motion of the ocean quite a bit (as do the other forward suites).

Glad to hear that some posts on other threads haven't scared your off;)

[Longhorn1]

Hi Everyone! This is by far the best thread that I have read on this board, or any board for that matter. Thanks to all for sharing their info. I will report a detailed review of our Sing/Syd Mariner cruise in November. I know it will be great and aided, too, by the tips I've read today. Thanks again!

[Travelcat2]

I think we're all having fun with this thread. I just remembered baby lamb chops. IMO, everyone should dine in their suite or balcony for breakfast at least once. Everyone raves about how wonderful the baby lamb chops are for breakfast (I don't eat lamb chops:o). They do not appear on the breakfast menu -- you have to write it in.

Also, unless you only like a tiny ball of cream cheese (the size of an large olive) with your bagel, write in 2 or 3 "portions please".

Remembering all of this is really making me more excited for our September 7th cruise;)

[cruisebugbit]

Well done Travelcat and all posters.

Lots of usefull and FUN information here.... key word being FUN.

Like you, it makes us more excited about Sept 25th on Voyager.

My two cents (even though they're Canadian cents they have gained some strength over the past few days...) Penthouse suites on Voyager are only slightly bigger (14 sqft) than Deluxe suites, but the "more square" layout gives a feeling of more room. We had a Penthouse and the in-laws had a Deluxe last year (on Deck 8) and we preferred our layout to their "bowling alley". Our butler also looked after dining reservations (as per an earlier post) as well as some changes in excursions (for our "Deluxe" in-laws as well) while we sat in our suite enjoying cocktails and munchies.

[hondorner]

...- if you feel like staying in for an evening and just watching tv, hot, buttered popcorn is a nice treat...
Ahhh -- this alone may be worth the entire premium for Regent! When I crave popcorn, I almost would swim to shore to get it.

[Caroldoll]

most of you act like you OWN Regent. Regent is good. Also Crystal is good. There is good and bad about EVERY line. We have tried them all.

Why can't someone like TC post something that is rather informative. Why do A LOT OF PEOPLE have to get on and flame. Regent is good. There are a few things that are a problem, but my DH and I LIKE NOISE...we DO NOT MIND VIBRATION. We love the way we are treated on Regent. We don't need to live in a capsule that is so insulated.

But--for TC, she posted some INFORMATION. She was not combative. Let other people read THE PROS AND CONS. For me the vibration puts me to sleep.

Then there was the other poster with a lot of positives...yesh!!! I am with you...get on and view the positives and not the negatives. Have a good time.

Forget the people who are just argumentative.

Regent is good. They have an amazingly s------ up computer system, but once you are there--it is mostly good.

That's my take.

That is why I seldom post.

[Travelcat2]

The thought of the vibration putting me to sleep would be nice right now:-)

Just remembered the block party and want to post before I forget. Most of the time (not all the time) there is a "block party" on the first night to get you acquainted with your neighbors. At a specified time, you grab a wine glass from your suite and walk out in the hall. Wine and little nibbly things (like cheese) are served while guests chat. Some officers make appearances throughout the ship. Really a fun event!

[OrpingtonT]

One of the advantages of living in the UK is that I can have a look at posts in the evening and then at 7 am or so next day, sit with a cup of coffee and read the comments made during my night or the US daytime.

Having read them, I will happily concede that this thread has turned around into a presentation of many interesting things about Regent ships after that initial introduction of noise common to all cruise ships.

most of you act like you OWN Regent. Regent is good. Also Crystal is good. There is good and bad about EVERY line. We have tried them all.

Why can't someone like TC post something that is rather informative. Why do A LOT OF PEOPLE have to get on and flame. Regent is good. There are a few things that are a problem, but my DH and I LIKE NOISE...we DO NOT MIND VIBRATION. We love the way we are treated on Regent. We don't need to live in a capsule that is so insulated.

But--for TC, she posted some INFORMATION. She was not combative. Let other people read THE PROS AND CONS. For me the vibration puts me to sleep.

Then there was the other poster with a lot of positives...yesh!!! I am with you...get on and view the positives and not the negatives. Have a good time.

Forget the people who are just argumentative.

Regent is good. They have an amazingly s------ up computer system, but once you are there--it is mostly good.

That's my take.

That is why I seldom post.

As you, Caroldoll, mentioned me specifically by name in your sub-heading, I feel I should respond without capitals and add that I don't know anyone who has acted like they own Regent nor do I flame. But I am entitled to a view, just as you are and you may be surprised to hear that I agree with you about vibration and the computer system, though the latter may be because of the location of the ship.

[cands]

The thought of the vibration putting me to sleep would be nice right now:-)

Just remembered the block party and want to post before I forget. Most of the time (not all the time) there is a "block party" on the first night to get you acquainted with your neighbors. At a specified time, you grab a wine glass from your suite and walk out in the hall. Wine and little nibbly things (like cheese) are served while guests chat. Some officers make appearances throughout the ship. Really a fun event!

That does sound like a nice event. Something to look forward to.

Thanks for the earlier reply to my question about the o/v cabins. I think deck 5 will suit us fine.

Cheers,
Steve.

[Cruisewoman79]

Just a quickie. . . . for breakfast at Sundays there is caviar & champagne/mimosa's. We prefer going to La Veranda (on the Mariner or Voyager) or Portofino on the Navigator as it is usually help yourself. The caviar is set out with all the proper accoutrements. Alternatively, you can order caviar with your breakfast in Compass Rose:)
now THERE is a valuable post! LOL
Thank you TravelCAT!
Counting down to our first Voyager cruise - flying in 42 days and 8 hours!
Looking forward to meeting our very positive and knowledgeable Regent cruisemate.

[Cruisewoman79]

I think we're all having fun with this thread. I just remembered baby lamb chops. IMO, everyone should dine in their suite or balcony for breakfast at least once. Everyone raves about how wonderful the baby lamb chops are for breakfast (I don't eat lamb chops:o). They do not appear on the breakfast menu -- you have to write it in.


I will eat yours! This was one of my favorite treats on another (nameless) luxury line.

[Wendy The Wanderer]

The block parties are nice--come as you are, bring a glass, but a waitstaff will fill it for you!

But sometimes these are held in lieu of sailaway parties up on the pool deck, which I really like. But of course, often the timing or weather isn't right for a sailaway party.

Boarding: has anyone mentioned that you can generally board around noon (PG excepted)? You won't get into your cabin until 2:30 or 3, but you can get on board, have a bite to eat, usually on the pool deck and/or La Veranda, or acquaint yourself with the ship, see if the spa is open for ressies, etc.

[Travelcat2]

Speaking of computers (a few posts above), the connection is notoriously bad in Tahiti. In Alaska the signal goes in and out -- there are fairly long periods of time without signals. Might as well go do something else and get back to it -- no big deal.

As most of you know, when you complete 21 days on Regent, on your next cruise you have free, unlimited internet! IMO, this is one of the best perks of being a Regent Seven Seas Society Member.

You become a Seven Seas Society Member after completing one cruise with Regent (does not matter how many days). On your next cruise you will be invited to the Seven Seas Society cocktail party where "good" caviar is served (yum).

Cruisewoman79: after our upcoming cruise, you only need 10 more nights to gain "Silver" status and get the free internet:-)

[Island Cruiser]

One of the very special things about Regent is the chef will prepare for you anything you wish with 24 hours notice as long as the necessary incredients are on board. On my next cruise, for instance, I am going to organize a steak tartar table for lunch at least once. I love steak tartar prepared properly but usually won't order it out in the very rare occasion I see it on a menu. But I trust the Regent galley and intend to feast on the stuff along with up to five others of a similar mind. The steak tartar will be prepared and served as a main course at our table. King Crab legs? All you need to do is ask. You name it. If the ship has the ingredients it will be yours.

Here is a funny story about all this. Friends of ours accepted an invitation to a "special order table" without asking the hostess what would be served. They said surprise us. Well, the night of the special order dinner was beef wellington night in Compass Rose. The special order: a lavish table of German delicacies. So while everyone else in Compass Rose feasted on beef wellington our friends looked on with envy as they consumed their sausages and sourkraut. Patrick

[carol luvs cruisin]

Yes, Deck 6 does have a crew walkway that's in front of the windows. Regent does'n seem to advertise this fact. I've been told that the crew doesn't use it very often, but I wasn't comfortable booking one of these cabins and chose the next level.

[Travelcat2]

Regent has "fixed" another part of their website. You can now go into "My Account" and add your booked cruises without having to put in your booking number every time you want to look view the details of your cruise, book excursions or dining reservations! It looks good!

[Travelcat2]

Want to plan a simple way to get together with other CruiseCritic members on board? The first time I tried was a faiilure. . . we were suppose to met at a certain time in a certain area of the bar. When I got there, the bar was full and I had no plans to walk up to each person and ask if they were CC members.

Make sure you are active in Roll Call so you can select times and places to meet (more than one time is good). Get something to identify you as a CC member. I purchased a CC visor and placed it on the table in the Observation Lounge (on the Voyager). Within the first two nights, we met all but one couple from Roll Call -- 13 of us (the missing couple never did show up).

We all decided that the Observation Lounge would be a nice place to meet for those who wanted to (no pressure). The most popular time was between 5:30 - 6:30 p.m. People would drop by to discuss the day, have a drink, etc. You can arrange a group dinner if you want -- once you've met, it's pretty much open. Most people did their own thing during the day -- we'd run into people in port to chat for a few minutes. Some of us dined together. For us, it was nice to know other couples on board to discuss cruising, ports, excursions, etc.

Since this thread is about the ships. . . . I learned a factoid this morning. The maximum capacity on the Navigator is 868 persons. The passenger limit is 490. If more than 490 passengers are on the ship, some of the crew (or someone working on board) must leave:-) Now I'd like to know how the absolute maximum for the other two ship:confused:

[Wendy The Wanderer]

The maximum capacity on the Navigator is 868 persons. The passenger limit is 490. If more than 490 passengers are on the ship, some of the crew (or someone working on board) must leave:-) Now I'd like to know how the absolute maximum for the other two ship:confused:

You're saying that there are 378 crew and staff on Navigator? Wow, I'm surprised. Do you recall where on the website they state the staff/passenger ratios?

[DaveFr]

Since this thread is about the ships. . . . I learned a factoid this morning. The maximum capacity on the Navigator is 868 persons. The passenger limit is 490. If more than 490 passengers are on the ship, some of the crew (or someone working on board) must leave:-) Now I'd like to know how the absolute maximum for the other two ship:confused:

You're saying that there are 378 crew and staff on Navigator? Wow, I'm surprised. Do you recall where on the website they state the staff/passenger ratios?
According to the SSS magazine "Voyages" I received a couple of months ago, the crew size on the Navigator is 345. 490 + 345 = 835, which is 33 less than the stated maximum. People such as lecturers, entertainers, etc are probably not counted in the 345 figure but my understanding is that those people are housed in regular passenger suites which would be part of the 490 figure.

Dave

[Travelcat2]

The magazine could certainly be correct. The information I read was from a passenger currently on the Navigator. I have no idea where he/she obtained the data. Do you by any chance have the numbers for the Voyager and Mariner. I'm just curious about it.

Now I'm curious about why we do not receive the "SSS" magazine. We are currently "Silver" and will reach "Gold" status next May. . . you would think we would receive the magazine.

Thanks for the information.

[DaveFr]

TC,

Voyages shows 445 crew on the Mariner and 447 crew on the Voyager. Strange that you're not receiving the magazine. I'd give SSS a call to check on why you're apparently off the subscription list.

Dave

[Wendy The Wanderer]

Okay Dave, that's close then. I wonder if the 490 includes some space for triples. I wonder how many passengers cabins there are.

We'll be Gold after Rio as well!

[hondorner]

Okay Dave, that's close then. I wonder if the 490 includes some space for triples. I wonder how many passengers cabins there are.

According to the deck plans on both the Regent site and cruisestateroom.com, there are a total of 253 passenger staterooms on Navigator. Two of these are Master Suites which have two bedrooms, each. Thus, for double occupancy in each bedroom there should be 506 plus 4 in the second Master Suite bedrooms, or a total of 510 passengers.

Of these, 30 cabins are triples, which takes the total passenger count to a potential 540. These triples do not include the triples which are created by joining certain suites to the connecting staterooms next to them.

Since that is 50 people higher than the advertised 490, I have to assume that some of the cabins are set aside for staff or entertainers who might not be part of the passenger count.

But, it's pretty clear to me that all of these could be passenger cabins, and it's theoretically possible that all of the cabins could be occupied by the maximum number designed into the cabins, with no single occupancies, which could theoretically result in a total of 540 passengers. I have to assume that the designers could count even better than I, so my guess is that the public spaces are also designed for that theoretical max.

[DaveFr]

Wendy,

I guess I have more time on my hands than sense. :D I just counted and there are 253 suites on the Navigator. Assuming my count is correct, it appears that eight suites are set aside for non-paying passengers.

Dave

[hondorner]

Wendy,

I guess I have more time on my hands than sense.
Me, too! We posted within one minute of each other. I was outside working but it started to rain -- time on my hands I didn't expect. Plus, I'm a little anal when it comes to facts...:rolleyes:

[dan33]

What about some info on the Paul Gauguin?:o

[Wendy The Wanderer]

'cause it's leaving the fleet in 5 months? Perhaps a separate thread on the Pg would be best.

BTW guys, congratulations on both counting up the cabins! Of course, the senior staff probably have some of these, not just entertainers. The doctor, probably the officers.

[Pam]

The Master Suites on Navigator don't have two bedrooms, just one.

[Roland4]

The Master Suites on Navigator don't have two bedrooms, just one.

And to muddy the issue further, none of the deck plans show Quad cabins. On our recent Mariner cruise I can think of at least three cabins in our little part of the ship with TWO rollaway beds in them and a Mariner Suite that had three. Which is how a listed capacity of 700 becomes 740+ I suppose. Just something for the number crunchers to think about.:D

[Travelcat2]

While you are numbers crunching. I started today (Sunday) with the new information that since the Navigator was overbooked by 3 "bodies", that three staff people had to leave the ship.

The Mariner has reported a large number of "bodies" that exceed 700 this summer. Does that mean that the staff is less than "normal".

Interesting, but, confusing subject.

[hondorner]

The Master Suites on Navigator don't have two bedrooms, just one.
My bad. I read the description on cruisestateroom.com, but failed to closely look at the rendering of the cabin, which clearly shows one bedroom.

Cruisestateroom.com (http://cruisestateroom.com) is a membership site that offers an opportunity to compare staterooms from many different ships. Occasionally, they get a description wrong. The one I saw is as follows:

Master Suite
European two twin beds that convert to king-size, two bedrooms, two baths, one bath marble-appointed with full size tub and shower, private balcony, walk-in closet, hairdryer, television, refrigerator, safe, phone, sitting area, vanity.

Avg sq ft cabin: 1067 Balcony: 106
Suites 1000 & 1001 have full wrap-around balconies. Suites 900 & 901 ha
On Decks: Deck 10 Deck 9 I believed it because the rssc web site has precious little detail about the suites.

Plus, I even got the Master suite count wrong -- there are, of course, four of them, not two.

It's particularly embarrassing for me because I really am obsessive about facts and try hard to not be wrong. :o

[Pam]

The master suite on Navigator does have a guest bathroom. I can't for the LIFE of me remember right now whether it's a half bath or a full. I'm thinking it's a half, with no tub or shower, because it's off the foyer. We had flushing issues with that toilet, but not with the one in the bathroom off the bedroom.

[Travelcat2]

This information is fascinating (hondorner, even if you weren't 100% perfect,, the detail you are providing is great!) I am trying to tie this in to a post I read yesterday where the person on board the Navigator stated that three crew members had to depart the Navigator in Istanbul because there were 493 passengers (three over:confused:) Has anyone heard of this before? I'm even feeling badly for the three crew members that were bumped? Hope Regent provided transportation for them to return home.

[esther e]

Yes, that is the anchor in 600 and 601. But you only hear it a couple of times a day.:D

[breezepark]

On deck 6, the starboard side are suites with balconies category E. You're correct about the suites on the port side -- they have a walkway used by the crew (category G window suites). I would think you would need to keep your curtains drawn during the day. All of deck 5 are category G window suites.

The two suites on deck 6 that are talked about quite a bit on the boards is "600" and "601". Both are over 500 sq. ft. -- 600 is a window suite -- 601 a balcony. There is one rather big drawback to these two suites. Very early in the morning there is a horrendous noise (not sure if it is the anchor or ???). Other than that, it's fine. It does feel the motion of the ocean quite a bit (as do the other forward suites).

Glad to hear that some posts on other threads haven't scared your off;)

I just booked a "H Window Suite" on deck 5 of the Navigator for 6/2010. They must be changing some things after drydock. But glad to hear the walkway is a level up!

[Travelcat2]

:)I just booked a "H Window Suite" on deck 5 of the Navigator for 6/2010. They must be changing some things after drydock. But glad to hear the walkway is a level up!

That deck should be perfect in terms of not feeling the motion of the ocean too much. It is fairly mid-ship or forward?

Switching to another tip (I'm running out of them). On the last morning, I find dining in Compass Rose or going up to La Veranda a bit depressing. We always order room service so we can enjoy the last couple of hours of our cruise. We also try to have some champagne left over from the night before to make mimosa's

[DaveFr]

Just to add to the confusion, :D I counted again and there are 40 suites on the Navigator with three-person capacity. If all those suites have three passengers in them and the remaining 205 passenger suites have two persons in them, then I submit that the true maximum capacity of the Navigator is 410 + 120 = 530. To keep the number of passengers at 490 on a full ship, would necessitate leaving one two-passenger suite vacant for every two suites with three passengers. So if all 40 three-passenger suites had three passengers, Regent would have to leave 20 two-passenger suites vacant. Does that make sense to anyone?

Also, I've seen the message to which TC refers, and it doesn't make sense to me. It is second-hand information from a passenger without attribution to an official source. It may or may not be accurate. Of course, I'm sure the passenger is relaying what he believes is accurate information but I would like to know from where the information came.

I find it difficult to believe that Regent would have so many crew (I'm including entertainers, lecturers, etc.) on the Navigator that one crew member would have to be disembarked for each passenger in excess of 490. Again, it just doesn't make sense to me.

Of course all this is JMHO. Any comments?

Dave

[Goofyisme]

I find it difficult to believe that Regent would have so many crew (I'm including entertainers, lecturers, etc.) on the Navigator that one crew member would have to be disembarked for each passenger in excess of 490. Again, it just doesn't make sense to me.

Of course all this is JMHO. Any comments?

Dave

I find it extremely difficult to believe also. If anyone wishes to research how actual legal capacity on a cruise ship operating out of a U.S. posr is calculated I believe you will find how absurd this assertion is.

[Travelcat2]

Just to add to the confusion, :D I counted again and there are 40 suites on the Navigator with three-person capacity. If all those suites have three passengers in them and the remaining 205 passenger suites have two persons in them, then I submit that the true maximum capacity of the Navigator is 410 + 120 = 530. To keep the number of passengers at 490 on a full ship, would necessitate leaving one two-passenger suite vacant for every two suites with three passengers. So if all 40 three-passenger suites had three passengers, Regent would have to leave 20 two-passenger suites vacant. Does that make sense to anyone?

Also, I've seen the message to which TC refers, and it doesn't make sense to me. It is second-hand information from a passenger without attribution to an official source. It may or may not be accurate. Of course, I'm sure the passenger is relaying what he believes is accurate information but I would like to know from where the information came.

I find it difficult to believe that Regent would have so many crew (I'm including entertainers, lecturers, etc.) on the Navigator that one crew member would have to be disembarked for each passenger in excess of 490. Again, it just doesn't make sense to me.

Of course all this is JMHO. Any comments?

Dave

I love that you have recounted the suites! Actually, the whole thing doesn't make sense since the Mariner has been sailing with 740 (approx.) That could mean that 40 crew members have to leave the ship. Very curious:confused:

In the meantime, while we have all been counting suites, there has been an apparent HUGE increase in Europeans on Regent. We (meaning CC members) have apparently missed the fact that Regent has wisely (or not) been advertising in an untapped market. I will definitely pay attention to this when we are on our September 7th cruise.

[UUNetBill]

Just an FYI in response to the post about requesting a tour of the bridge; we requested a bridge tour on the Navigator earlier this month and were told that they had quit doing them for 'security reasons'. :confused:

We were offered a galley tour, which, although it sounded interesting, I passed on it to enjoy a nice Cuban and a single malt in the Connoisseur Club. :p

[Travelcat2]

Just an FYI in response to the post about requesting a tour of the bridge; we requested a bridge tour on the Navigator earlier this month and were told that they had quit doing them for 'security reasons'. :confused:

We were offered a galley tour, which, although it sounded interesting, I passed on it to enjoy a nice Cuban and a single malt in the Connoisseur Club. :p

Thanks for sharing that information. We really enjoyed the bridge tours and are sorry to hear that they have been discontinued.

I must say that having a nice cuban and single malt in the Connoisseur
Club is more important and interesting than the galley tour. We have taken the galley tour twice -- enjoy it very much. Hopefully you can do it in the future:-)

[Roland4]

Just to add to the confusion, :D I counted again and there are 40 suites on the Navigator with three-person capacity. If all those suites have three passengers in them and the remaining 205 passenger suites have two persons in them, then I submit that the true maximum capacity of the Navigator is 410 + 120 = 530. To keep the number of passengers at 490 on a full ship, would necessitate leaving one two-passenger suite vacant for every two suites with three passengers. So if all 40 three-passenger suites had three passengers, Regent would have to leave 20 two-passenger suites vacant. Does that make sense to anyone?

Also, I've seen the message to which TC refers, and it doesn't make sense to me. It is second-hand information from a passenger without attribution to an official source. It may or may not be accurate. Of course, I'm sure the passenger is relaying what he believes is accurate information but I would like to know from where the information came.

I find it difficult to believe that Regent would have so many crew (I'm including entertainers, lecturers, etc.) on the Navigator that one crew member would have to be disembarked for each passenger in excess of 490. Again, it just doesn't make sense to me.

Of course all this is JMHO. Any comments?

Dave

Just as an FYI, every ship on every cruiseline has a "maximum number" of Triple/Quad cabins for each sailing. Once that number is reached, even if a Triple/Quad cabin is available, you can only put two people in it. I have no idea what "voodoo science" goes into calculating that number, but be assured that on a sold out ship, NO Double cabin would be left empty to accomodate Triples/Quads.:D Also, keep in mind that a Triple cabin is just a Double cabin with a pull-out couch or rollaway. The cabins are the same size.

[ededmd]

Just as an FYI, every ship on every cruiseline has a "maximum number" of Triple/Quad cabins for each sailing. Once that number is reached, even if a Triple/Quad cabin is available, you can only put two people in it. I have no idea what "voodoo science" goes into calculating that number, but be assured that on a sold out ship, NO Double cabin would be left empty to accomodate Triples/Quads.:D Also, keep in mind that a Triple cabin is just a Double cabin with a pull-out couch or rollaway. The cabins are the same size.

I think the voodoo science goes back to cumulative lifeboat capacity.

Another way to approach this problem is to know the number of people (includes everyone: passengers and crew and any other extras) each life boat holds and count the number of life boats on each ship.

[OrpingtonT]

Thanks for sharing that information. We really enjoyed the bridge tours and are sorry to hear that they have been discontinued.



Far from being discontinued, on our recent Norwegian Fjords cruise on Voyager there was an "open Bridge" for an hour or two either side of lunch on a sea day. You could just walk, in ask questions, take photos and signs were put up on the appropriate deck drecting you to the bridge. This facility was included in the Passages for that day.

[MrMojoRisin]

In the meantime, while we have all been counting suites, there has been an apparent HUGE increase in Europeans on Regent. We (meaning CC members) have apparently missed the fact that Regent has wisely (or not) been advertising in an untapped market. I will definitely pay attention to this when we are on our September 7th cruise.

We Europeans are perfectly respectable and civilised. We know how to use a knife and fork and gave up running around in furs and woad a couple of weeks ago!! Some of us can even read and count to ten.:)

[OrpingtonT]

We Europeans are perfectly respectable and civilised.Some of us can even read and count to ten.:)

Speak for yourself! :p

[Wendy The Wanderer]

Hey guys, I love seeing you on board, and let's face it, you are much more civilized than we North Americans. I love my American friends, but I prefer a mix of nationalities.

[DaveFr]

In the meantime, while we have all been counting suites, there has been an apparent HUGE increase in Europeans on Regent. We (meaning CC members) have apparently missed the fact that Regent has wisely (or not) been advertising in an untapped market. I will definitely pay attention to this when we are on our September 7th cruise.
Wow, talk about something out of the blue. What's your source of information for this bombshell? Actually, I have it on good authority that the HUGE increase on Regent has been in European children. :eek:

Dave

[englandsrose]

In the meantime, while we have all been counting suites, there has been an apparent HUGE increase in Europeans on Regent. We (meaning CC members) have apparently missed the fact that Regent has wisely (or not) been advertising in an untapped market. I will definitely pay attention to this when we are on our September 7th cruise.

We Europeans are perfectly respectable and civilised. We know how to use a knife and fork and gave up running around in furs and woad a couple of weeks ago!! Some of us can even read and count to ten.:)


Yeah - BUT we still drive on the wrong side of the road LOL ;) and we like family cruises, and we have even booked for next year as well, because the prices are so competitive :D

[gfranzen]

You misspelled civilized....

[MrMojoRisin]

You misspelled civilized....


Now don't start that or we will have every difference in spelling coming up:) (Even though we spell it the correct way!)

[AnglerGirl]

Now don't start that or we will have every difference in spelling coming up:) (Even though we spell it the correct way!)

A favorite of mine is favourite. :)

[OrpingtonT]

And you have to have a sense of humor (humour), especially if you have just drunk a liter (litre) and gotten (got) a hangover!

[Travelcat2]

In the meantime, while we have all been counting suites, there has been an apparent HUGE increase in Europeans on Regent. We (meaning CC members) have apparently missed the fact that Regent has wisely (or not) been advertising in an untapped market. I will definitely pay attention to this when we are on our September 7th cruise.

We Europeans are perfectly respectable and civilised. We know how to use a knife and fork and gave up running around in furs and woad a couple of weeks ago!! Some of us can even read and count to ten.:)

Yes I know -- my husband (born and raised in London) is much more civilized than I am. However, he just hasn't learned to spell:D

[Travelcat2]

Wow, talk about something out of the blue. What's your source of information for this bombshell? Actually, I have it on good authority that the HUGE increase on Regent has been in European children. :eek:

Dave

Still having trouble doing more than one "quote" at once. My source was someone on another board that was on the Navigator and posted the percentages of repeat Regent customers (relatively low) and Europeans. I do visit the U.K. website fairly often -- sometimes wishing we could book using British Pounds.

The reason I'll be looking at the numbers on our cruise is because it leaves from Southampton -- a perfect starting point for anyone living in the U.K. It would be nice if my DH had some fellow "Londoners" on board.

[Ebonybombshell]

Remember people~

I'm the Bombshell! :p

[Wendy The Wanderer]

I think the voodoo science goes back to cumulative lifeboat capacity.

Another way to approach this problem is to know the number of people (includes everyone: passengers and crew and any other extras) each life boat holds and count the number of life boats on each ship.

Yes, I think we should make it an exercise, for the next people on each of the ships, to go around and note down the capacity of all of the lifeboats and report back to us!

[DaveFr]

Remember people~

I'm the Bombshell! :p
That's why I didn't capitalize the "b." :D

Dave

[Travelcat2]

Remember people~

I'm the Bombshell! :p

Glad we have the Bombshell in this thread! ;)

[hondorner]

Still having trouble doing more than one "quote" at once.
If all of the items you want to quote are in one thread, I can help. If they are in multiple threads, it can be done, but is considerably more complicated.

Look for this icon in each thread you want to quote: http://boards12.cruisecritic.com/images/buttons/multiquote_off.gif

Click that icon in each thread in succession. Each will turn red: http://boards12.cruisecritic.com/images/buttons/multiquote_on.gif

Then, click this icon in any of the threads you have already turned "on": http://boards12.cruisecritic.com/images/buttons/quote.gif

A new window will open with all of the quotes placed in order.

Edit the text in that window, eliminating superfluous verbiage from the quote, being very careful not to disturb any of the square brackets [ ] or any of the "tags" inside the square brackets (QUOTE, /QUOTE). Move the quoted text down a couple of rows by hitting your "Enter" key, and insert your comments regarding each quote.

It is best to choose "Preview Post" rather than "Submit Reply" so you can make corrections before they appear to the rest of us. :o


To insert quotes from a different thread, or even a different site, requires opening another instance of your browser, navigating to the material you want to quote, inserting it into your own reply message, and using the "Wrap quote around selected text" icon: http://boards12.cruisecritic.com/images/editor/quote.gif

[Travelcat2]

hondorner: Thank you so much for trying to help:)

I probably should be off topic in the middle of a thread thread, however, I am and will try to find a way to be on subject in a minute.

I could find this icon: http://boards12.cruisecritic.com/images/buttons/multiquote_on.gif

But have no clue where this one is: http://boards12.cruisecritic.com/images/buttons/multiquote_off.gif

Back on topic (sort of). I'm trying to figure out why counting passengers, crew and "extras" (BTW, what are "extras) on a lifeboat will figure out maximum capacity of a ship. This is really voodoo science:-) I think there has to be enough capacity in the lifeboats for everyone. If not, just throw the "European children" overboard.

Before you start bashing. . . . . . I was just "kid"ding. . . . .:p

[DaveFr]

I probably should be off topic in the middle of a thread thread, however, I am and will try to find a way to be on subject in a minute.

I could find this icon: http://boards12.cruisecritic.com/images/buttons/multiquote_on.gif

But have no clue where this one is: http://boards12.cruisecritic.com/images/buttons/multiquote_off.gif
TC,

It's the same icon When you click on the icon, the blue background turns red.

Dave

[Loodie]

Preview the evening menu's in the Gaileo Lounge on the Navigator, or the Observation Lounge on the Mariner or Voyager (all meals are also shown on television).

I've enjoyed previewing the menu on TV aboard the Voyager. Couldn't find it on the Mariner this May - searched all the usual channels. Are they still doing this?

[ededmd]

Back on topic (sort of). I'm trying to figure out why counting passengers, crew and "extras" (BTW, what are "extras) on a lifeboat will figure out maximum capacity of a ship. This is really voodoo science:-) I think there has to be enough capacity in the lifeboats for everyone. If not, just throw the "European children" overboard.

Before you start bashing. . . . . . I was just "kid"ding. . . . .:p

Extras in my mind are lecturers, non-crew entertainers, etc. If you call them crew, fine. I just didn't want to call them "staff" based on response to that word in another post.

I really do think the lifeboat capacity is the true max. Let's say a percentage of the cabins are singles. Even if you *could* put triples or [gasp] quads in remaining unbooked cabins they won't do it beyond a certain numerical point because of the safety issue.

Now all this of course has nothing to do with what passenger capacity or public space/passenger ratio "should" be on a luxury line which if I get your gist is the issue for you TC2. I can't say I would be particularly thrilled with a "harried" staff and "temporary" tables crowded into dining venues either.

[Travelcat2]

Extras in my mind are lecturers, non-crew entertainers, etc. If you call them crew, fine. I just didn't want to call them "staff" based on response to that word in another post.

I really do think the lifeboat capacity is the true max. Let's say a percentage of the cabins are singles. Even if you *could* put triples or [gasp] quads in remaining unbooked cabins they won't do it beyond a certain numerical point because of the safety issue.

Now all this of course has nothing to do with what passenger capacity or public space/passenger ratio "should" be on a luxury line which if I get your gist is the issue for you TC2. I can't say I would be particularly thrilled with a "harried" staff and "temporary" tables crowded into dining venues either.

Okay -- now I get it. Thank you! You're correct about my feelings of having the advertised amount of public space and passenger ratio. Having just read how poorly Regent was doing in the 4th quarter of last year, I understand why they have taken steps to increase revenue. Adding "free" excursions is apparently working well for them. Overbooking ships, on the other hand, was a miss step in my opinion.

Speaking of crowded ships, I'm not certain if I posted this tip or not (too lazy to go back over all the posts). So, here it is -- perhaps again.

I have mentioned the fact that Compass Rose has special menu's on the night of the Captain's Reception. After this event, most of the 700 passengers on board head to the dining venues. Compass Rose, being a non-reservation restaurant, is hit the hardest. This truly causes the staff to be stressed and makes it feel as if Regent is understaffing Compass Rose. So, if you relax for a while and have a pre-dinner cocktail, you can avoid the rush and the crowds. Alternatively, you can go to Compass Rose during the Reception and be seated immediately. This also happens on the last night when the staff puts on their fabulous show at either 6:00 or 6:30 p.m.


P.S. DaveFr: Think I was having a "duh" moment. Thanks for clearing it up:)

[Peek-a-boo]

[quote=Travelcat2;20565490]Okay -- now I get it. Thank you! You're correct about my feelings of having the advertised amount of public space and passenger ratio. Having just read how poorly Regent was doing in the 4th quarter of last year, I understand why they have taken steps to increase revenue. Adding "free" excursions is apparently working well for them. Overbooking ships, on the other hand, was a miss step in my opinion.

TC - why do you feel that Regent is overbooking/overcrowding ships?
Have they been doing this all along or is it just this past year?

[RachelG]

I've enjoyed previewing the menu on TV aboard the Voyager. Couldn't find it on the Mariner this May - searched all the usual channels. Are they still doing this?
Yes, it was still available on Voyager 3 weeks ago.

[jhp]

[QUOTE=Travelcat2;20550713] In the meantime, while we have all been counting suites, there has been an apparent HUGE increase in Europeans on Regent. We (meaning CC members) have apparently missed the fact that Regent has wisely (or not) been advertising in an untapped market. QUOTE]

Well, if you want to avoid children (Regent has too many?), and you want to avoid a diverse clientele, where American pax may not be in the wide majority, where do you go next?

I've cruised with children on Regent, and on Silversea, I've cruised happily with a wide variety of Brits, Aussies, Europeans and Asians, American's being about 38%. And on other Regent cruises (Asia particularly) there has been quite a mix of nationalities. So I don't feel like all "we" CC members have missed the fact that Regent is trying hard to stay afloat just like every other luxury cruise line by attracting business wherever they can find markets in this small world of ours. It's not like you would get on an "XYZ" line that has all the announcements in 5 languages! Now that would annoy me, as it has when I have been docked next to them in port and have to listen if I am on my balcony!

Editing to say, I knew I couldn't get that "quote" thing right! I am way too challenged electronically!

[hondorner]

Editing to say, I knew I couldn't get that "quote" thing right! I am way too challenged electronically!
The hardest thing to do when quoting is to avoid changing the "tag" that instructs the browser how to perform. These "tags" are simple instructions enclosed within square brackets "[ ]". The tags, or instructions, are invisible in the finished message.

I'll show you an example, but I'm going to use "curly brackets" to enclose the tags, otherwise the browser will act on the tag and it will be invisible to you.

A quote starts with the tag, {QUOTE=And-some-other-information} and ends with the tag {/QUOTE}. The slash mark is the "switch" that turns off the tag. Just remember to not erase any of the square brackets or the forward slash in the quote, and it will come out just fine.

[Travelcat2]

Firstly, jhp, this thread is not about children. I would prefer to keep this on track if possible as it's intent was to give information to new and not so new cruisers about the ships, etc.

How diverse Regent's clientele is was a side issue. Just in case you missed my post on the previous page, my interest in the number of European's on recent cruises has to do with my DH who is hoping to find fellow British passengers on our coming cruise since it departs from England. This subject could possibly make a good topic for a separate thread.

Peek-a-Boo: yes, you actually hit the nail on the head (so to speak). Regent has not had more than 700 passengers on the Mariner and Voyager or 490 on the Navigator (give or take 10 or so people) -- at least not that has been reported on CC or any other boards that I always read prior to the last 2 months.

There was a report on a board that the Navigator had 3 people more than the "490" and that three staff departed the ship in Istanbul. Note: I have no way of verifying this other than to state that it was on another cruise board.

"Regulars" on the Regent board have posted dissatisfaction with various things in the past that have been corrected by Regent. Most recently were hundreds of posts complaining about the dress code. As many know, the dress code was changed last month. Prior to that was an issue with passengers on cancelled cruises getting their refunds in a timely manner. Not only was this corrected, but, the President of Regent posted a letter on CruiseCritic regarding this topic.

Posting about Regent allowing considerably more than 700 people on the Mariner is a concern to some of us. Thankfully, CC allows all of us to voice our thoughts and opinions. Unfortunately, some people feel it necessary to misconstrue and argue with almost everything I say.

Hopefully, the people still reading this thread will add to some hints and suggestions about cruising on the different Regent ships.

[OrpingtonT]

Unfortunately, some people feel it necessary to misconstrue and argue with almost everything I say.



Oh, no, they don't! :p;):)

[gfranzen]

Did you know the gotten is actually old(e) English?

[Travelcat2]

Did you know the gotten is actually old(e) English?

Now that is really interesting! Whenever I use that word, my DH makes a comment (he doesn't like the word). Think he'll find the origin surprising. Thanks for that tidbit.

[OrpingtonT]

Did you know the gotten is actually old(e) English?

I didn't know either. Forgive me, but it sounds wrong to my English ears!. :)

[MrMojoRisin]

I didn't know either. Forgive me, but it sounds wrong to my English ears!. :)

Much as I also dislike the sound of the word, it is absolutly correct that it is from old English and is actually still used in some English dialects. In fact, a lot of American usage is from an earlier period of English which we would now regard as archaic.

[Wendy The Wanderer]

"gotten" is archaic? Not to my ear, but then I'm Canadian.

"I have gotten lots of replies to my advertisement". "It has gotten really cold lately".

Perhaps not the best written English, but perfectly acceptable spoken. But then we're the colonies!

[MrMojoRisin]

I don't use "archaic" in any pejorative sense. The past participle of get in English English is usually got and we wouldn't normally use the structure "have gotten". For example, we would say "I have had a number of replies.."

Interestingly, creeping into English usage by some younger people - and copying American, and maybe Canadian usage - is the phrase can I get as in "Can I get a cup of coffee?" when asking for said article. This sounds very odd to me as I would use "May I have a cup of coffee?" If I were to be serving and someone said to me "Can I get a cup of coffee?" my response would be "Yes you can, but would you like one?"

But then I am probably just showing my age.

[jhp]

The hardest thing to do when quoting is to avoid changing the "tag" that instructs the browser how to perform. These "tags" are simple instructions enclosed within square brackets "[ ]". The tags, or instructions, are invisible in the finished message.

I'll show you an example, but I'm going to use "curly brackets" to enclose the tags, otherwise the browser will act on the tag and it will be invisible to you.

A quote starts with the tag, {QUOTE=And-some-other-information} and ends with the tag {/QUOTE}. The slash mark is the "switch" that turns off the tag. Just remember to not erase any of the square brackets or the forward slash in the quote, and it will come out just fine.

Thank you hondorner! My problem is/was when I try to isolate part of a post rather than reposting it in its entirety

[Wendy The Wanderer]

Interestingly, creeping into English usage by some younger people - and copying American, and maybe Canadian usage - is the phrase can I get as in "Can I get a cup of coffee?" when asking for said article. This sounds very odd to me as I would use "May I have a cup of coffee?" If I were to be serving and someone said to me "Can I get a cup of coffee?" my response would be "Yes you can, but would you like one?"

But then I am probably just showing my age.


I do the same thing, as in "Can I ask a question?" "Yes, you just did!"

[verdl]

Firstly, jhp, this thread is not about children. I would prefer to keep this on track if possible as it's intent was to give information to new and not so new cruisers about the ships, etc.

How diverse Regent's clientele is was a side issue. Just in case you missed my post on the previous page, my interest in the number of European's on recent cruises has to do with my DH who is hoping to find fellow British passengers on our coming cruise since it departs from England. This subject could possibly make a good topic for a separate thread.

Peek-a-Boo: yes, you actually hit the nail on the head (so to speak). Regent has not had more than 700 passengers on the Mariner and Voyager or 490 on the Navigator (give or take 10 or so people) -- at least not that has been reported on CC or any other boards that I always read prior to the last 2 months.

There was a report on a board that the Navigator had 3 people more than the "490" and that three staff departed the ship in Istanbul. Note: I have no way of verifying this other than to state that it was on another cruise board.

"Regulars" on the Regent board have posted dissatisfaction with various things in the past that have been corrected by Regent. Most recently were hundreds of posts complaining about the dress code. As many know, the dress code was changed last month. Prior to that was an issue with passengers on cancelled cruises getting their refunds in a timely manner. Not only was this corrected, but, the President of Regent posted a letter on CruiseCritic regarding this topic.

Posting about Regent allowing considerably more than 700 people on the Mariner is a concern to some of us. Thankfully, CC allows all of us to voice our thoughts and opinions. Unfortunately, some people feel it necessary to misconstrue and argue with almost everything I say.

Hopefully, the people still reading this thread will add to some hints and suggestions about cruising on the different Regent ships.

What changes did Regent make in the dress code......guess that slipped by me??

thanks,jj

[DaveFr]

What changes did Regent make in the dress code......guess that slipped by me??

thanks,jj
For 2010, Regent eliminated Informal nights. There will only be Formal and Elegant Casual nights. Elegant Casual is basically the same definition as Country Club Casual except that, apparently, golf shirts are now allowed.

Dave

[Travelcat2]

Back to the ships for a moment. Did anyone read the review of the Voyager? While it was a good review, it hit on three points that I have repeated over and over.

1. Inconsistant food in Compass Rose
2. Inconsistant food in La Veranda
3. Desserts look good but don't taste good

The Voyager is such a wonderful ship. I almost understand inconsistant food -- we notice the same thing at some very good restaurants. What is puzzling is Regent's desserts. My DH is used to the wonderful pastries in Europe. I'm used to yummy chocolate desserts -- cake, etc. I'd love to know what type of pastry Regent's chefs prepare. Is this a specific style? On our most recent cruise, the Chocolate Cruise, there were the most wonderful looking cakes and pastries that totally lacked the "something" that makes it tastes as good as it looks. The best thing we had was chocolate marshmello's (dipped in the chocolate fountain).

[gfranzen]

On our last Regent cruise we were seated the first night with some of the entertainment stars. They all ordered from the Compass menu standard items - steak & salmon. They said that these choices are consistently good.

[CalmCruiserNC]

Thank you so much for this thread!

My wife and are are planning our cruise of a lifetime for our 20th anniversary -- a full world cruise in 2011. We're looking at our options with all of the luxury lines, and we genuinely appreciate ALL information -- both positive and negative. Simply put, we've worked extremely hard to be in the position to take such a voyage, and I want the best experience I can find. I tend to dismiss both overly negative AND overly positive reviews -- so a balanced, honest report is what I seek and what I value most.

Regent ... Crystal ... Seabourn ... all great lines -- but which one is doing the best job of maintaining high standards in spite of tough economic times? Which one will actually deliver the experience it promises?

[Wendy The Wanderer]

Wow, what an awesome thing to be doing for your 20th anniversary!

[Travelcat2]

Thank you so much for this thread!

My wife and are are planning our cruise of a lifetime for our 20th anniversary -- a full world cruise in 2011. We're looking at our options with all of the luxury lines, and we genuinely appreciate ALL information -- both positive and negative. Simply put, we've worked extremely hard to be in the position to take such a voyage, and I want the best experience I can find. I tend to dismiss both overly negative AND overly positive reviews -- so a balanced, honest report is what I seek and what I value most.

Regent ... Crystal ... Seabourn ... all great lines -- but which one is doing the best job of maintaining high standards in spite of tough economic times? Which one will actually deliver the experience it promises?

I agree that you will have an awesome anniversary!:)

It is a bit difficult to compare these three luxury cruise lines (there is also Silversea). They are so different.

Crystal comes out on top in most surveys by a couple of points. A couple of years ago, Regent beat it out by 1/10 of a point. Basically, all four lines have their pluses and minuses.

Crystal is the largest of the luxury cruise lines (900+ passengers) and the only one that is not all-inclusive -- has tipping and set seating in the main dining room. Their "regular" suites are on the small side. On the positive side, Crystal's current promotion (through 2010 I think) gives you enough on board credit to pay for drinks and tips (although you still have to sign for them). Crystal would come through with what they advertise. They also have extremely good entertainment and are one of the more formal of the cruise lines.

Seabourn is the smallest in terms of ship size. Three of their ships are older and do not have balconies. Their largest and newest ship, Seabourn Odyssey, holds 450 passengers and does have balconies. Seabourn's strong point is service. They reportedly have extremely good food as well. The smaller ships have far less to do during the day than Crystal or Regent.

Silversea -- you did not ask about it -- just thought I'd add it in. Their ships are medium size (smaller than Regent -- larger than Seabourn). They are running some great specials -- 60% off some cruises with included airfare. Although, like Regent, they can be "off" on a meal or two, they are very highly rated.

Regent -- if you have reading the boards lately, Regent has been bashed fairly badly by their loyal customers. This is mainly for the overbooking of the Seven Seas Mariner which sails in Alaska. They have also had up to 150 children per week on board. What you may have read is not typical of Regent. However, I would strongly suggest avoiding any times that school is out (holidays, summer, etc.)

Regent has two all-suite, all-balcony ships which hold 700 passengers (both built since 2002). One ship (built in 1999) holds 490 and has 80% balconies. Their "regular" suites are the largest of any of the cruise lines mentioned here. The current promotion, which extends through 2010, includes airfare and most excursions as well as drinks, tips, etc. There has been some inconsistancy in a couple of dining venues (specifically Compass Rose & La Veranda).

Which cruise lines are doing the best job of maintaining high standards? That is difficult. Regent spent approximately $20 million dollars each on two of their ships within the past 12 months and has the third ship going into drydock for almost a month in January, 2010.

Silversea & Seabourn have new ships this year and one coming out next year. I just read that one of Crystal two ships is being completely refurbished.

It is impossible to predict what will happen between now and 2011. If the economy continues to improve, the "specials" on the cruise lines could disappear.

The best thing you can do is read the reviews over the next few months When the 2011 schedules come out, you can compare pricing. All four cruise lines provide a luxury experience, but, are very different. The boards for each cruise line will tell you that their line is the best. You need decide what is important to you.

[shua22]

When the Voyager was in dry dock for the pod repair did they do any refurbishment of the interiors?

[Roland4]

That is an excellent summary/comparison TC!

I would add one small caveat to your description of Crystal. I did some cabin comparing when we were on Mariner last month and while the "standard" suite on Mariner is a bit larger than the "standard" cabin on Serenity (which does the WC), it is such a small difference that, all other things being equal, I wouldn't call it a "deal maker" or a "deal breaker". Never having been on Voyager or Navigator, I don't know if that would still be the case. Regardless, any of the four lines will, I am sure, provide a memorable 20th anniversary experience!:D

[Travelcat2]

When the Voyager was in dry dock for the pod repair did they do any refurbishment of the interiors?

The Voyager's interior was completely refurbished less than six months prior to the pod repair.

Roland4: I tend to forget about the Mariner's small suites. With balcony, the Mariner suites are 301 sq. ft. The Voyager and Navigator's suites are 356 sq. ft. Those were the suites I was referring to. Thanks for catching that:)

[CalmCruiserNC]

I agree that you will have an awesome anniversary!:)

It is a bit difficult to compare these three luxury cruise lines (there is also Silversea). They are so different.

Crystal comes out on top in most surveys by a couple of points. A couple of years ago, Regent beat it out by 1/10 of a point. Basically, all four lines have their pluses and minuses.

Crystal is the largest of the luxury cruise lines (900+ passengers) and the only one that is not all-inclusive -- has tipping and set seating in the main dining room. Their "regular" suites are on the small side. On the positive side, Crystal's current promotion (through 2010 I think) gives you enough on board credit to pay for drinks and tips (although you still have to sign for them). Crystal would come through with what they advertise. They also have extremely good entertainment and are one of the more formal of the cruise lines.

Seabourn is the smallest in terms of ship size. Three of their ships are older and do not have balconies. Their largest and newest ship, Seabourn Odyssey, holds 450 passengers and does have balconies. Seabourn's strong point is service. They reportedly have extremely good food as well. The smaller ships have far less to do during the day than Crystal or Regent.

Silversea -- you did not ask about it -- just thought I'd add it in. Their ships are medium size (smaller than Regent -- larger than Seabourn). They are running some great specials -- 60% off some cruises with included airfare. Although, like Regent, they can be "off" on a meal or two, they are very highly rated.

Regent -- if you have reading the boards lately, Regent has been bashed fairly badly by their loyal customers. This is mainly for the overbooking of the Seven Seas Mariner which sails in Alaska. They have also had up to 150 children per week on board. What you may have read is not typical of Regent. However, I would strongly suggest avoiding any times that school is out (holidays, summer, etc.)

Regent has two all-suite, all-balcony ships which hold 700 passengers (both built since 2002). One ship (built in 1999) holds 490 and has 80% balconies. Their "regular" suites are the largest of any of the cruise lines mentioned here. The current promotion, which extends through 2010, includes airfare and most excursions as well as drinks, tips, etc. There has been some inconsistancy in a couple of dining venues (specifically Compass Rose & La Veranda).

Which cruise lines are doing the best job of maintaining high standards? That is difficult. Regent spent approximately $20 million dollars each on two of their ships within the past 12 months and has the third ship going into drydock for almost a month in January, 2010.

Silversea & Seabourn have new ships this year and one coming out next year. I just read that one of Crystal two ships is being completely refurbished.

It is impossible to predict what will happen between now and 2011. If the economy continues to improve, the "specials" on the cruise lines could disappear.

The best thing you can do is read the reviews over the next few months When the 2011 schedules come out, you can compare pricing. All four cruise lines provide a luxury experience, but, are very different. The boards for each cruise line will tell you that their line is the best. You need decide what is important to you.

THANK YOU so much for putting this together -- and I'll definitely add Silversea to the shopping list. We're generally pretty easy to please (see the list of our cruising experience for evidence of THAT) -- but for this special journey, we really just want a quiet, peaceful and luxurious environment for a long, long vacation. For over half of our marriage, my wife and I have been the primary caregivers for her mother, who is now 90 and has suffered from ever-worsening dementia since her late 70's. Her physical health has now deteriorated to the point that she will need far more care that we can provide for her -- or she will simply pass away -- within the next several months. I share this to say that my wife and I NEED to go away on a long journey and learn what it's like to be just the two of us again. While I know a WC is quite a treat, if we've learned nothing else from caring for her mom, we've learned that adventures must be had while we're still young.

Thanks again for the insights --

[larry1365]

Thank you so much for this thread!

My wife and are are planning our cruise of a lifetime for our 20th anniversary -- a full world cruise in 2011. We're looking at our options with all of the luxury lines, and we genuinely appreciate ALL information -- both positive and negative. Simply put, we've worked extremely hard to be in the position to take such a voyage, and I want the best experience I can find. I tend to dismiss both overly negative AND overly positive reviews -- so a balanced, honest report is what I seek and what I value most.

Regent ... Crystal ... Seabourn ... all great lines -- but which one is doing the best job of maintaining high standards in spite of tough economic times? Which one will actually deliver the experience it promises?

CalmCruiserNC --

We took Voyager's full 2007 World Cruise. You can find my blog reports and photos at: http://2007voyagerworldcruise.shutterfly.com/

It was a terrific trip. My wife and I are booked on Voyager's 2010 full 119-day World Cruise, embarking in San Diego on Jan 13 and returning to Ft. Lauderdale on May 12. I will be posting during the trip -- not as much text, but lots of photos. I am currently setting up the site, but will announce it here in December for anyone who wants to follow us along on our voyage.

In both instances, we have booked a standard Regent cabin. We have found them plenty big enough even for such a long trip. It is a wonderful experience and I am sure you probably can't go wrong with any of the lines you are looking at. In 2007, Regent delivered a truly amazing experience. That's why we are going again!

[Threechicks]

CalmCruiserNC --

We took Voyager's full 2007 World Cruise. You can find my blog reports and photos at: http://2007voyagerworldcruise.shutterfly.com/

It was a terrific trip. My wife and I are booked on Voyager's 2010 full 119-day World Cruise, embarking in San Diego on Jan 13 and returning to Ft. Lauderdale on May 12. I will be posting during the trip -- not as much text, but lots of photos. I am currently setting up the site, but will announce it here in December for anyone who wants to follow us along on our voyage.

In both instances, we have booked a standard Regent cabin. We have found them plenty big enough even for such a long trip. It is a wonderful experience and I am sure you probably can't go wrong with any of the lines you are looking at. In 2007, Regent delivered a truly amazing experience. That's why we are going again!
I am booked for the first segment of the world cruise - January 14, San Diego to Sydney - and then I board the Voyager again when she leaves Ft. Lauderdale on May 12 for the east coast/British Isles cruise. This will be my first cruise on the Voyager but I had no hesitation about booking due to my fantastic cruises on the Navigator and the Mariner. My last cruise on the Mariner was two segments of the 2008 world cruise in October/November.

[DebbieH103]

The chance to board free at lunchtime is a very nice advantage that should be noticed and utilized. True, there MAY be a few moments' line at that first buffet, but the food will be very good, and you will be glad you did not miss it.

Prime 7 debuted on Voyager last year and Mariner this year. This is not to be missed even by vegetarians, but go quite hungry.

Use online advance restaurant and tour reservations when you can but be flexible. If you know you won't make a dinner reservation one night due to change of plans, please cancel so others can enjoy.

[shua22]

Wow Larry-- what a trip. Thanks for sharing!

[LOGHL]

THANK YOU so much for putting this together -- and I'll definitely add Silversea to the shopping list. We're generally pretty easy to please (see the list of our cruising experience for evidence of THAT) -- but for this special journey, we really just want a quiet, peaceful and luxurious environment for a long, long vacation. For over half of our marriage, my wife and I have been the primary caregivers for her mother, who is now 90 and has suffered from ever-worsening dementia since her late 70's. Her physical health has now deteriorated to the point that she will need far more care that we can provide for her -- or she will simply pass away -- within the next several months. I share this to say that my wife and I NEED to go away on a long journey and learn what it's like to be just the two of us again. While I know a WC is quite a treat, if we've learned nothing else from caring for her mom, we've learned that adventures must be had while we're still young.

Thanks again for the insights --

Whatever your decision.... you deserve a fantastic cruise, for your sacrifices!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My mother was ill for quite a long time & my husband chose to support her for 3 years in her own home, rather than "put her away"..Since she has passed on, we have been traveling quite a bit, and I always remeber the sacrifices made, which makes the cruises that much more sweet, and pleasurable. Bless you

[xrvlcruiser]

Karen and Larry:

I'm so glad you'll be back!

Peggy

[traveller333]

My last cruise on the Mariner was two segments of the 2008 world cruise in October/November.


Threechicks, slight correction...the Mariner didn't do the World Cruise in 2008 and it doesn't start until January. I think you may be referring to the Asian Pacific Rim cruise which is on the Mariner.

Calmcruiser, your world cruise will be special. Although I haven't done the world cruise in it's entirety I have gone on 2-3 segments several times and it is first class all the way. Also, Voyager cabins are a bit larger than the Mariner cabins that someone mentioned. A Voyager standard cabin will be more than enough space for the 4 months voyage.

[Threechicks]

Threechicks, slight correction...the Mariner didn't do the World Cruise in 2008 and it doesn't start until January. I think you may be referring to the Asian Pacific Rim cruise which is on the Mariner.

Calmcruiser, your world cruise will be special. Although I haven't done the world cruise in it's entirety I have gone on 2-3 segments several times and it is first class all the way. Also, Voyager cabins are a bit larger than the Mariner cabins that someone mentioned. A Voyager standard cabin will be more than enough space for the 4 months voyage.
I stand corrected but it was the same length.

[CalmCruiserNC]

Whatever your decision.... you deserve a fantastic cruise, for your sacrifices!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My mother was ill for quite a long time & my husband chose to support her for 3 years in her own home, rather than "put her away"..Since she has passed on, we have been traveling quite a bit, and I always remeber the sacrifices made, which makes the cruises that much more sweet, and pleasurable. Bless you

Thank you for your kind words. My wife and I never imagined that her mom would live as long as she has, so we really didn't know what were we getting ourselves into. But we went into the responsibility with the attitude that we would never regret caring for her mom -- we would only regret it if we didn't. Ironically, one of the things that brought my wife and myself together was that we were both childless-by-choice, so we could travel and enjoy life without the responsibilities that the majority of married couples take on when they become parents. Raising a child seems like it would have been easier in at least one way -- kids become increasing independent as the years pass and ultimately bring much joy. Eldercare by contrast, is exhausting, depressing and hopeless.

WOW reading what I just wrote, it's obvious I need a cruise -- even if it is on Carnival!

[larry1365]

Karen and Larry:

I'm so glad you'll be back!

Peggy

I assume from that reply that you will, too? Great! After our unplanned stay here in Chicago during a very long 2009 winter, it will be great to spend most of the next below the equator.

[OrpingtonT]

My wife and I are booked on Voyager's 2010 full 119-day World Cruise, embarking in San Diego on Jan 13 and returning to Ft. Lauderdale on May 12.

Great news. So pleased your are cruising again and your ongoing reports are something to look forward to. We will be with you both in spirit.

Tell Capt Dag to stay clear of those fishing nets!

[TheWaywardTraveler]

CalmCruiserNC --

We took Voyager's full 2007 World Cruise. You can find my blog reports and photos at: http://2007voyagerworldcruise.shutterfly.com/

It was a terrific trip. My wife and I are booked on Voyager's 2010 full 119-day World Cruise, embarking in San Diego on Jan 13 and returning to Ft. Lauderdale on May 12. I will be posting during the trip -- not as much text, but lots of photos. I am currently setting up the site, but will announce it here in December for anyone who wants to follow us along on our voyage.

In both instances, we have booked a standard Regent cabin. We have found them plenty big enough even for such a long trip. It is a wonderful experience and I am sure you probably can't go wrong with any of the lines you are looking at. In 2007, Regent delivered a truly amazing experience. That's why we are going again!

I SO enjoyed your last cruise! I was along (vicariously) for the entire journey - I'm thrilled to be traveling along again:D - someday it will be "for real" on a World Cruise!

[lkakers]

I've enjoyed previewing the menu on TV aboard the Voyager. Couldn't find it on the Mariner this May - searched all the usual channels. Are they still doing this?

Yes they are still doing this, at least when I was on in May.

I was on Mariner from 7 May 'til 21 May, and this feature was up and running. Though at the first part of of the cruise, it wasn't updating properly (generally you were seeing the previous night's menu), within a few days it was properly up-to-date.

[leese]

Menus weren't on the Navigator TV last week.

[Wendy The Wanderer]

Not sure if anybody has mentioned comparisons of the standard staterooms on the three ships, so I'll mention what I know.

Mariner suites are a little smaller by about 50 square feet.

Voyager suites have the best walk-in closets (I believe, haven't seen Mariner's.)

Navigator has the nicest suites overall, I think. Even though they are a tiny bit smaller than Voyager, their layout seems more spacious--perhaps that's because the walk-in closet is a bit more cramped. Navigator balconies are a titch bigger.

Mariner apparently has the best Penthouse suite. I'll be experiencing the Voyager PH soon; it's marginally bigger than standard, but laid out as a square so it feels bigger.

I can't personally report on the larger suites 'cause I haven't seen them, except Master's Suite 700 (used to be OS, eh?). Lovely, although no view forward.

[Travelcat2]

Not sure if anybody has mentioned comparisons of the standard staterooms on the three ships, so I'll mention what I know.

Mariner suites are a little smaller by about 50 square feet.

Voyager suites have the best walk-in closets (I believe, haven't seen Mariner's.)

Navigator has the nicest suites overall, I think. Even though they are a tiny bit smaller than Voyager, their layout seems more spacious--perhaps that's because the walk-in closet is a bit more cramped. Navigator balconies are a titch bigger.

Mariner apparently has the best Penthouse suite. I'll be experiencing the Voyager PH soon; it's marginally bigger than standard, but laid out as a square so it feels bigger.

I can't personally report on the larger suites 'cause I haven't seen them, except Master's Suite 700 (used to be OS, eh?). Lovely, although no view forward.

Great description of the suites. The Mariner suites feel like a scaled down version of Voyager suites (50 sq. feet as Wendy mentioned) The walk-in closets are about half the size of the Voyager closet. The only annoying part of the Mariner suites is the safe -- very tiny -- (much too small).

Yes -- the Mariner has huge Penthouse suites -- however, many feel it is a lot of wasted space. I once calculated how much more "public space" the Mariner has compard to the other ships (quite a bit because of the smaller suites). Unfortunately, the public spaces also have a lot of unused area. When the Voyager was built (the sister ship to the Mariner), they made a lot of changes to the design. IMO, the changes were good ones.

Having said all of that, the Mariner is a gorgeous ship -- just different than the other two:-)

[mpb43]

This thread has been so useful. Thanks to all who have posted. Can't wait to board the Navigator on November 8th!