Man Overboard.

[Charlie2na]

YIKES.... Carnival is missing one male passenger! Coast gaurd searching an area 13 miles off coast of florida.

[super_grover]

There was some discussion of this over on the carnival board....it looks like they have given up the search
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/11/26/missing.passeneger.ap/index.html

[iluvcruzin]

There was another gentleman from Germany recently that turned up missing too. It's scarey.

[elmorejj]

It seems as though every time there is a "man overboard" alert, it seems to be on Carnival ships..too much partying perhaps?.....jean :cool:

[localady]

I think it might be the bill at the end of the cruise.....makes um jump rather than pay:eek: ;)

I just can't imagine how you fall overboard, not like tripping is going to do it. :confused:
Planning on watching my step on the upcoming cruise!:cool:

[Charlie2na]

YUP.... I could see it. Last day of cruise, huge shipboard bill..."DAMN THE CASINOS"..................JUMP!

[Krazy Kruizers]

Heard about the man overboard last night on the news.

Both newspapers here had a little article about it.

Last night's news showed the wife being interviewed. She didn't look upset. JMO

[Vic The Parrot]

I wouldn't be too upset either.


It's either a publicity stunt, or the poor soul has bad timing
on how, and where to drown himself.

Jumping overboard in the Florida Straits doesn't really improve the death wish one has... it's surviving in tropical waters, (if the bloke was a Royal Navy grad)

The area in which he took his dive, is a tad too shallow, and actually finding the body depends on currents, and actual depth.
Someone who really wanted to end thier life would take a broader venue, such as half way between Hawaii and California.

Or mid crossing from NY to England.
The water is always deeper and colder there, so the chances of actually dying, and not being found are greater.

If he did survive, he's on one of the Out Islands.....
If not, well, he's shark food.

There have been MANY cases in which pax jumped, or merely fell off the ship, and they lived to tell the tale.


I wouldn't give this a second thought.

[tomc]

Just as an aside, I've been making an unscientific survey of crew/pax overboards and they tend to be the last night of the cruise. FWIW. Again, an unscientific survey and not drawing any conclusions.

[FlorenceItaly]

Heard about the man overboard last night on the news.

Both newspapers here had a little article about it.

Last night's news showed the wife being interviewed. She didn't look upset. JMO


About the wife...yes, it could tend to be rather suspicious...some may consider this the perfect crime...just pure speculation.

Marie

[sail7seas]

Depending upon which deck he fell from, wouldn't falling into the ocean from ....say deck 10 ....be rather like hitting concrete?

[tomc]

I've done a lot of interviews with people who have just lost a significant person and, in shock, they can seem remarkably calm. It's only later that they fall apart, when it all sinks in.

s7s You don't need to be even that high.

[jhannah]

It seems as though every time there is a "man overboard" alert, it seems to be on Carnival ships..too much partying perhaps?It certainly appears to be more than just coincidence. The whole "fun ships" and "just more fun" marketing has been reflected in pax coming off their ships in port ... at least in our experience. If someone's in their last-night-onboard-and-last-chance-to-party-hearty mode, then it could certainly contribute to such an unfortunate happening.

[lknick]

jhannah--The man was 54, not exactly in the party hearty crowd.

A man died and most of the post associated with the incident were designed to show how superior HAL cruisers are. IMO, this is truly bad taste.

[bepsf]

Hmmm - If I were going to off myself, I'd do it on the last sea day too.

Accidental or intentional - it's a sad & lonely way to go...

[DoctorFeelgood]

I think it's sad that someone didn't come back from their cruise, and I feel sorry for his family.

Still, I don't really see how you can "fall off". Aside from the Penthouse Suites on Celebrity's Millenium-class ships, which have a door in the railing (my guess is so that the cleaning guy can clean the diningroom windows) that can be opened by lifting an unlocked latch (I tried it), the railings are solid... aren't they? And they're pretty high... at least over most people's center of gravity. You'd have to jump or be thrown off, or be doing something really dumb.

[gatour]

Some of the television interviews here in Jacksonville showed the widow to be grieving. Also, I can understand how some people may not show "acceptable" grieving as compared to others. Everyone one deals with grief in their own way.

The wind was high that night, so that may be a partial explanation. We will see if anything else is determined to be a contributing factor.

[JDee]

Today's morning paper states wife did not report husband missing until ship tied up in Jacksonville. She said last saw him about 1:30am and that he is an early riser and could have fallen overboard as early as 4:00am. Coast Guard didn't start the search until after Jacksonville docking, back tracking the search to the area he could have fallen off. CG also announced it has discontinued the search.

[gizmo]

I think it's sad that someone didn't come back from their cruise, and I feel sorry for his family.

Still, I don't really see how you can "fall off". Aside from the Penthouse Suites on Celebrity's Millenium-class ships, which have a door in the railing (my guess is so that the cleaning guy can clean the diningroom windows) that can be opened by lifting an unlocked latch (I tried it), the railings are solid... aren't they? And they're pretty high... at least over most people's center of gravity. You'd have to jump or be thrown off, or be doing something really dumb.Doing something dumb is probably the closest answer.

About a year or so ago, a crew member fell over board. This person was sitting on the railing.

Some nut case was drunk and arguing with his wife, he climbed over the railing and fell.

A guy decided to take a swim after too many cocktails and jumped while the ship was docked in the Bahamas. The stories go on and on.

There is always the occasional suicide and those stories are always so sad.

[lipoppop]

Just as an aside, I've been making an unscientific survey of crew/pax overboards and they tend to be the last night of the cruise. FWIW. Again, an unscientific survey and not drawing any conclusions.

TomC in your study have you determined whether it is more men than women who disappear?

:cool:

[tomc]

Inconclusive. You would need a lot of cases to come to any determination as to men vs women. Even then, it might not mean anything.