Cigar Smoking on Verandahs

[Harry1954]

I was quite surprised that HAL allows cigar smoking on verandahs. We just returned from the Black Sea trip on Prinsendam - a wonderful experience - and were sorely disappointed at this. Our neighbor on the deck just below us seemed to be on the vernahdah smoking a cigar each and every time we wanted to sit out on tours. Naturally, the smell/smoke always seemed to drift our way. This kept us from really being able to enjoy ourselves outside of the cabin.
We sail on Crystal alot and they forbid this. While I fully support the idea of a cigar bar and the cigar under the stars .. it just seems that allowing this on the vernandahs is a zero sum game - the cigar smoker wins - everyone else loses. Am I just being a pill?
harry

[Mpowered]

If you're a pill, I'm a pill, too. On our Alaska cruise last July, one of our verandah neighbors was a cigarette smoker. I don't know if I always knew when this person was smoking, but I knew it several times. It was most unpleasant, but I didn't say anything because smoking is allowed on the balconies. It didn't ruin our trip, by any means, but the cruise could have been better without smelling the cigarette smoke.

Joan

[pattigay]

We had the same experience on the Amsterdam in May. Every time we tried to enjoy some time on the balcony there was this cloud of cigar smoke coming from the adjoining cabin. It was really disgusting and frustrating not to be able to use the space. I would love to see smoking (at least cigars) banned from the balconies.

[CRUZBUDS]

We'll save our veranda balcony money for Celebrity - I don't want to spend a ton of extra cash on a veranda we may not be able to fully enjoy.

[JimVrhovac]

We pay the same for the cabin that you do and are entitled to use it as you are.

Next time try to politely approach the individual and try to work out an accomodation

Jim (without Ruth)

[Zappa Fan]

My husband rarely smokes cigars. Yet, on a cruise, he enjoys puffing on his balcony. I'm certain that if a neighbor nicely "complained", he'd be more than happy to let it go out.

As Jim said, we pay the same amount for our balcony. This makes my husband happy.

[pipedreams62]

We had the same experience on the Amsterdam in May. Every time we tried to enjoy some time on the balcony there was this cloud of cigar smoke coming from the adjoining cabin. It was really disgusting and frustrating not to be able to use the space. I would love to see smoking (at least cigars) banned from the balconies.


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[Punchcruise]

I smoke my Punch cigars on my balcony. If you came to me and ask to put it out I would.

[bajakiter]

Couldn't resist, this thread is almost as much fun to read as "formal nights".
But seriously,we were surprised that anyone still smokes but they certainly do on HAL.
At some point their health may be affected by smoking related diseases.
They may even have to stop cruising due to these smoke related health problems.
So, stop smoking, if not for yourself or the rest of us then do it for your loved ones and live longer and cruise longer!

[dandro]

Just because someone pays for their cruise doesn't mean they can behave offensively toward their other passengers, and that includes smoking on the verandahs where it will impact the other passengers. There are other places to smoke on the ship.

[mrsltg]

At some point their health may be affected by smoking related diseases.
They may even have to stop cruising due to these smoke related health problems.
So, stop smoking, if not for yourself or the rest of us then do it for your loved ones and live longer and cruise longer!

That may well be true. HOWEVER, it may also be true that you will be killed in a car accident tomorrow, so you may as well live!!! If smoking a cigar on your cruise is what pleases you have at it. No one knows what tomorrow is going to bring.

[dandro]

That may well be true. HOWEVER, it may also be true that you will be killed in a car accident tomorrow, so you may as well live!!! If smoking a cigar on your cruise is what pleases you have at it. No one knows what tomorrow is going to bring.

The operative word is an ACCIDENT....smoking is NOT an accident. It is something detrimental you do purposely to your body and those around you. I watched my father take his last breaths...I hope none of you ever have to go through that just for the "pleasure" of smoking.

[Zappa Fan]

Couldn't resist, this thread is almost as much fun to read as "formal nights".
But seriously,we were surprised that anyone still smokes but they certainly do on HAL.
At some point their health may be affected by smoking related diseases.
They may even have to stop cruising due to these smoke related health problems.
So, stop smoking, if not for yourself or the rest of us then do it for your loved ones and live longer and cruise longer!

Kindly quit the preaching. We're all adults here. ;)

[mrsltg]

The operative word is an ACCIDENT....smoking is NOT an accident. It is something detrimental you do purposely to your body and those around you. I watched my father take his last breaths...I hope none of you ever have to go through that just for the "pleasure" of smoking.

I'm sorry about your father. Truly sorry.

Good thing we're all adults and get to make our own choices.

[Zappa Fan]

Just because someone pays for their cruise doesn't mean they can behave offensively toward their other passengers, and that includes smoking on the verandahs where it will impact the other passengers. There are other places to smoke on the ship.

I hate that stinky cigar smoke in my cabin, thus he smokes on the balcony!:D

[ldog]

get out the popcorn!

[mudscraper]

Being tobacco chewers, we always book a verandah.


Rich

[dandro]

Yes, we ARE all adults and can make our own choices, but I didn't have a choice to lose my father...he chose to leave the family by his choice, he might as well have committed suicide right in front of us.

If I am too "preachy", I don't care. I watched him slowly die for 8 months, and watched him in those final moments. If you people "choose" to do that to your families, then I pity you.

And back to the subject...it's about respect for your fellow passengers. Think before you light up.

[usha]

Truly, I can't believe HAL is still permitting cigar smoking on balconies.:eek:
I can't think of too many things more revolting than the nasty smell of a cigar.
Too bad HAL would rather cater to a few individuals and their offensive habits, while disregarding everyone else...:(
This can only make Celebrity look all the more attractive.

[Zappa Fan]

Non smokers should DEFINITELY check out more restrictive cruise lines. I agree. :)

[bcd2010]

We pay the same for the cabin that you do and are entitled to use it as you are.

But your smoking on the balcony prevents others from being able to enjoy or maybe even use their balconies. Their NOT smoking does not prevent you from using yours.

[wallygator]

I was quite surprised that HAL allows cigar smoking on verandahs. We just returned from the Black Sea trip on Prinsendam - a wonderful experience - and were sorely disappointed at this. Our neighbor on the deck just below us seemed to be on the vernahdah smoking a cigar each and every time we wanted to sit out on tours. Naturally, the smell/smoke always seemed to drift our way. This kept us from really being able to enjoy ourselves outside of the cabin.
We sail on Crystal alot and they forbid this. While I fully support the idea of a cigar bar and the cigar under the stars .. it just seems that allowing this on the vernandahs is a zero sum game - the cigar smoker wins - everyone else loses. Am I just being a pill?
harry

Live and let live. Because you don't like it they should stop? Is there anything they may not like about you that they find offensive? Just enjoy your cruise or as someone stated approach the person and express your feelings. If you haven't noticed it yet its their party and they will do what they want to, don't you do same? Surprised not really.

Not busting you just saying its what it is!

Chill out and enjoy:)

[usha]

Wow, some of these pro-smoking responses sound pretty militant!
I wouldn't think that HAL (or ANY cruise line) would want to be on that side of the line drawn in the sand!:eek:

[Zappa Fan]

Wow, some of these pro-smoking responses sound pretty militant!
I wouldn't think that HAL (or ANY cruise line) would want to be on that side of the line drawn in the sand!:eek:

Actually, smokers have said that they're more than happy to work with militant non-smokers. Have you read the entire thread, Usha? :)

[dobie]

We have given up on booking balcony cabins because of the smoking issues (we are nonsmokers, I have asthma and use breathing machines, my dad and both of my husband's parents died of lung cancer). We could not enjoy our balcony because of the smoke outside, so we are saving lots of money by booking inside or outside cabins. We go up ondeck to the nonsmoking side when we want to enjoy fresh air.

[Luckybee]

Jumping in head first...dh and I have only cruised a few times(RSSC and Royal) ..we tend to do far more land based vacations. I just booked an Alaskan Cruise with HAL, and it will be our first time on HAL. I actually looked at almost every cruise line out there in deciding. Seabourn, RSSC and Crystal, had no Alaska when we wanted to go...wasnt crazy about itinerary on Silversea....so left me choosing between Celebrity, Royal, Princess and HAL. Celebrity was our 1st choice out of the 4 ...until I found out about there restricive smoking policy. We chose to go with HAL for a number of reasons including their smoking policy....it wasnt difficult to do. As I said on another thread we chose what we expect will work for us...If I was a non smoker, and if I had a stong aversion to cigarette smoke and didnt wish to chance smelling it on a balcony I would without doubt book another line. Im puzzled as to why anyone in those circumstances would book a line that allows balcony smoking then complain about balcony smoke?
Let me give you a couple of other examples....some of the things we loved about RSSC were one seating open dining and the fact that very good quality wines were included with dinner. HAL doesnt have that(they do have a form of your choice dining but it doesnt seem to work the same way). They also dont include wine with dinner. Should we go on our cruise and then say well it was great except for the fact that we hated fixed seating, and your choice dining(or my way...or whatever its called....lol), and geez we hated having to pay for our wine(or bring our own). That wouldnt make sense ! Now if someone wasnt aware , or didnt check, shame on them for not doing their research...but I would have a tad more sympathy. Noneof the posters though appear to have been uniformed prior.

[Copper10-8]

Yep, we got us one!:cool:

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[JAMS1]

Our last cruise was a "Last Minute Cruise" Booked Monday for Friday.
Had our first inside stateroom, found it worked very well. Ship had been sold out for months, got someone's cancelation.
The best part was not worrying about being smoked off our balcony.
I have asthma and Smoke of any kind including performance smoke - just takes me out. You would laugh watching me leave the theater when the smoke starts, no matter how good the seat is, I quietly get up and move to the back and hope the smoke does not overtake me. Sometimes I am just chased out by smoke and miss the performance. Sucks to have Asthma.
Would be nice for smokers if they would have a smoking/Cigar cruise, so everyone on the cruise would know - Smoking is the thing on this ship and there will be no safe places and the smokers will be happy without feeling pestered by others.
And for the rest of us a Smoke Free Cruise Ship. No Smoking of any kind on board.

[HWY 101]

http://***************/smoking-policy.htm

[HWY 101]

Smoke on the Water
Cruise Ships: Where You Can & Can't Smoke
http://***************/churchills_qv.jpgChurchill's Cigar Bar Aboard Queen Victoria
by Linda Coffman
One of the unhappiest groups of cruisers I've even met were four World War II veterans aboard R-1. It was back in 1999, when now defunct-Renaissance Cruises was the only no-smoking-allowed cruise line in existence. The otherwise charming vets were all cigarette smokers whose wives thought a cruise on a non-smoking ship would prompt them to abandon their habit. They groused about their wives' deception, but managed to take matters into their own hands. In the wee hours of every morning while everyone else was fast asleep, the disgruntled vets held a "smoker" on the fantail of the ship.
While such an action isn't necessary on most ships these days, it is getting harder and harder to find a place to light up during a cruise. Ships are catching up to the rest of the hospitality industry and the smoking lamp has gone out in virtually all restaurants and showrooms at sea, as well as many of their bars and lounges. While casinos are one of the last bastions of smokers, some have "smoke-free" nights to clear the air.
Airlines were leaders in the non-smoking revolution, followed by restaurants and hotels that gradually phased in separate areas for smokers and then eliminated them altogether. Now, local governments across the United States and even Europe have enacted legislation that bans smokers from bars and even some outdoor cafes. The cruise industry was slow to follow the trend, mainly because of non-US passengers who don't object to smoking and, more importantly because of groups. Group bookings are important to cruise lines and groups hesitate to book on a non-smoking ship if even a minority of their members smoke. Groups don't want to leave anyone out or put them in an uncomfortable environment. There is also the matter of revenue. Carnival Cruise Lines' experiment with the smoke-free Carnival Paradise ended in less than a decade. The ship never matched the revenue of the rest of its fleetmates.
Think of that small group of veterans—they probably wouldn't be able to get away with their fantail rebellion these days. And, happily for them, they wouldn't have to break the rules on most cruise ships. Smokers realize there are designated places to smoke and places that are entirely smoke-free on the seas and most are willing to accept the compromise. The first thing they do is check for ashtrays and make friends with other smokers. "We're outcasts, aren't we?" is a common conversation starter between smokers who gather in smoking-designated areas. Cigar aficionados don't suffer the same indignities when they have their own "cigar lounge" to retreat to. They are accustomed to being banned from most public areas and are happy to find a lounge that accepts them. Otherwise, they are relegated to an outdoor deck, along with pipe smokers.
Only about twenty percent of American adults are currently smokers so it's not a big deal that smoking areas have shrunk. We applaud the cruise lines for their health and safety concerns, but also give them high marks for not ostracizing the minority of smokers who want to be comfortable with their habit. It's a win-win situation in most cases.
Smoking At Sea
Never smoke in an elevator, on stairways, or in corridors. As a rule of thumb, if there's an ashtray at hand, you can smoke; if there's food served nearby, you can't. Pipes, and sometimes cigars, are often restricted to open decks. These are some of the specific dos and don'ts:
Azamara Cruises
Where to Smoke: Small sections for smokers are located on the port side of the Looking Glass Lounge and the forward area of the pool deck on the starboard side.
Where NOT to Smoke: No other areas on the ships allow smoking, including all restaurants, lounges, casinos, cabins and balconies.
Carnival Cruise Lines
Where to Smoke: Cabins, private balconies, casinos, and designated areas in lounges and bars.
Where NOT to Smoke: Restaurants, show lounges, and the pool deck on those ships that have "indoor" areas serving food nearby.
Cigars: Cigar smoking is allowed only in cigar lounges and designated areas on open decks.
Celebrity Cruises
Where to Smoke: The port side of one lounge per ship, a designated slot machine area in each ship's casino, and designated areas on open decks, including the port side of the pool deck and sundecks on each ship, the port side of the Sunset Bar on Celebrity Century and on Celebrity's Millennium class of ships, and the port side aft outside of Winter Garden on Celebrity Mercury.
Where NOT to Smoke: Cabins, private balconies, show lounges, theaters, and restaurants, as well as the entire starboard side--indoors and outside. Celebrity Solstice's Lawn Club and the Sunset Bar at the Lawn Club do not allow smoking.
Cigars: Cigars are allowed only in designated sections of the open decks.
Costa Cruises
Where to Smoke: Cabins, private balconies, open decks, and designated smoking areas in public rooms.
Where NOT to Smoke: All restaurants and show lounges.
Cigars: Cigar smoking is allowed only in designated areas, including cigar lounges and on open decks.
Crystal Cruises
Where to Smoke: Cabins and in designated areas of bars, lounges, and open decks.
Where NOT to Smoke: Restaurants, show lounges, and private balconies.
Cigars: Cigars (and pipes) are allowed in the Connoisseur Club and most open decks.
Cunard Line
Where to Smoke: Cabins, private balconies, casinos, and in designated smoking sections of some bars and lounges.
Where NOT to Smoke: Show lounges, theaters, the library, and all restaurants.
Cigars: Cigars (and pipes) are permitted in cigar lounges, as well as on designated areas of open decks.
Disney Cruises
Where to Smoke: Cabin balconies and designated starboard-side open deck areas (including near the adults-only pool).
Where NOT to Smoke: All other indoor areas, including cabins, are smoke-free.
Holland America Line
Where to Smoke: Cabins, private balconies, casinos, and in designated areas of bars, lounges, and open decks.
Where NOT to Smoke: All restaurants and show lounges.
MSC Cruises
Where to Smoke: In Cigar rooms, casinos, one dedicated lounge, and designated areas on open decks.
Where NOT to Smoke: Cabins, private balconies, restaurants, show lounges, and all bars with the exception above.
Norwegian Cruise Line
Where to Smoke: Cabins, private balconies, casinos, cigar lounges, and designated areas on open decks.
Where NOT to Smoke: All indoor public areas, with the exceptions noted above, and outdoor food venues.
Oceania Cruises
Where to Smoke: Smoking is permitted only in the aft port side of Horizons, and the starboard forward section of the outdoor Pool Deck.
Where NOT to Smoke: All other areas are smoke-free. This includes all cabins and balconies, restaurants, public rooms, and open decks except for the two designated smoking areas.
Oceania has tightened its smoking regulations with a "zero tolerance" policy, which imposes strict penalties upon those who smoke outside designated areas—up to and including disembarkation from the ship.
Princess Cruises
Where to Smoke: Cabins, private balconies, and in designated areas in public rooms and open decks.
Where NOT to Smoke: Show lounges, elevators, dining rooms, and all food service areas. Additionally, "smoke-free nights" are scheduled in the casino.
Cigars: Cigar smoking is allowed only in cigar lounges and on open decks; pipe smoking is allowed on open decks.
Regent Seven Seas Cruises
Where to Smoke: Smoking is permitted on open decks, in the casino and Connoisseur Club on Seven Seas Mariner, Navigator, and Voyager, and in designated smoking areas in one lounge on each ship.
Where NOT to Smoke: Cabins, private balconies, all indoor dining areas, and all public rooms except as noted above.
Cigars: Cigar smoking is permitted in the Connoisseur Club on Seven Seas Mariner, Navigator, and Voyager, and in designated areas of open decks. Pipe smoking is permitted only in the Connoisseur Club on those ships and is prohibited on other ships.
Royal Caribbean
Where to Smoke: Private ocean view balconies, the starboard side of open decks, and in designated smoking areas of certain public rooms.
Where NOT to Smoke: In cabins (passengers who smoke in their cabins will be fined $250), restaurants, show lounges, passageways, the port sides of open decks, and one public lounge on each ship, which is designated non-smoking.
Cigars: Cigar and pipe smoking is only permitted within the cigar lounge. If no cigar lounge exists on the ship, there will be a designated area for pipe and cigar smoking
Seabourn Cruise Line
Where to Smoke: Cabins, private balconies, and designated areas of open decks.
Where NOT to Smoke: Restaurants (including outside areas where food is served), lounges, and elevators.
Cigars: Cigar and pipe smoking are allowed only in designated areas on open decks after 9pm.
SeaDream Yacht Club
Where to Smoke: Outdoors on Decks 3, 4 and 6.
Where NOT to Smoke: All indoor spaces, including cabins, and outside on Decks 2 and 5.
Silversea Cruises
Where to Smoke: Cabins, private balconies, designated areas of The Bar, aft of the Terrace Café (outside), the casino, and designated areas on open decks.
Where NOT to Smoke: Restaurants, the show lounge, and all other public rooms.
Cigars: Cigar and pipe smoking is permitted in cigar lounges and designated areas on outside decks.
Windstar Cruises
Where to Smoke: Designated areas on outside decks only.
Where NOT to Smoke: All indoor spaces, including cabins.
Cigars: Cigar and pipe smoking are allowed only on designated outside deck areas.
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[pipedreams62]

Please help. It appears "Perfume" guy hasn't posted yet.

"Perfume" guy is the one who whines about perfume being much more offensive than smoke. I've ran some numbers and he should have posted a long time ago.

My biggest fear is something has happened to him,or he's gotten involved with the wrong people.

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[room010]

At the end of our Zuiderdam cruise to Alaska in July this year we were asked to complete a fairly detailed survey regarding smoking in general on HAL ships. Not sure what the company planned to do with it as I'm pretty sure the majority vote would be to ban smoking altogether but maybe the survey was issued to keep the complainers happy. As luck (?) would have it we had cigar smokers on either side of our Deck 6 cabin and there were a couple of occasions when it became so unpleasant we were forced inside. I'm not a very experienced cruiser but do these trips attract a particularly large number of cigar smokers because they seemed to be puffing away wherever we went. I'm not a virulent anti-smoker at all but I paid just as much for my verandah as the cigar smokers next door only I was prevented from using mine because they wanted (needed?) to smoke there.

[Harry1954]

I was not intending to create a fight or we/they issue; merely pointing out that cigar smoking on a verandah is indeed intruding on the vacation pleasures of others. There are places to smoke and the cabin is the most obvious one. Someone mentioned they don't want their husband smoking cigars in the cabin ... this just adds to the fact that it can be offensive to many.

My intention was to send a message to those who do smoke to consider doing so in their cabin so as not to impinge on the masses .. .maybe that is just wishful thinking.
harry

[suse]

Please help. It appears "Perfume" guy hasn't posted yet.

"Perfume" guy is the one who whines about perfume being much more offensive than smoke. I've ran some numbers and he should have posted a long time ago.

My biggest fear is something has happened to him,or he's gotten involved with the wrong people.

http://pipedreams62.eaph2.com/share/afunstuffsep/womansprayingperfume1.jpg
The guy who always says being overweight is just as dangerous to your health as smoking. Where did he go?

[WhoDat]

I am a non-smoker. I enjoy sitting on our balcony. If someone around me is out on their balcony smoking, I don't let it bother me. After all, it is their vacation too!

With that said, if they were chain smoking out there, then I would politely ask if they would consider toning it down some.

Some people will pay the extra money to have a balcony they can smoke on. Why? Because if it's raining, they are unable to do it on the open deck, and the cigar bars have strict times. We were in one where cigarette smoking was allowed, but the cigar smokers were told no smoking til 9pm.

If the smoking on the balcony bothered me that much, I would only sail with the cruise lines who forbid it.

Just me.

[Nasmas]

Good grief. I think you people are just complainers. I find it hard to believe that outdoor smoke is going to harm your little pristine bodies. I'd like to ban that god awful perfume & cologne that a lot of cruisers seem to love to wear. I can't get in the elevator behind some of them but smoke outdoors? Good LORD!!

[usha]

Pipedreams is breathing a huge sigh of relief...;)

[cruznon]

The list posted by HWY 101 was very informative. Thank you for posting.

[Nasmas]

Yes, I think I will book a Celebrity Cruise and bitch because they won't let me smoke on my balcony.

[suse]

Yes, I think I will book a Celebrity Cruise and bitch because they won't let me smoke on my balcony.
That would be a very strange reason to book a cruise. I think the list is quite helpful, don't you?

[Copper10-8]

Looks like everyone has made an appearance!:cool:

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[pipedreams62]

The guy who always says being overweight is just as dangerous to your health as smoking. Where did he go?


That guy fell asleep by the pool.




We fixed him right up


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[suse]

He cracks me up. He's always saying that being overweight is just as dangerous as smoking. Ok, if he says so, he must be right.:)

[pipedreams62]

Please help. It appears "Perfume" guy hasn't posted yet.



"Perfume" guy is the one who whines about perfume being much more offensive than smoke. I've ran some numbers and he should have posted a long time ago.











I'd like to ban that god awful perfume & cologne that a lot of cruisers seem to love to wear. I can't get in the elevator behind some of them but smoke outdoors? Good LORD!!


I just bent a spoon:eek:


http://www.urigeller.com/pics/twgm5.jpg

[suse]

So, perfume that stinks to high heaven is ok if you are wearing it outside? We won't be able to smell it then?:confused: Let's split hairs. I need to remember that next time I bathe in a tub of L'Amoure or Evening in Paris.:)

[Nasmas]

That would be a very strange reason to book a cruise. I think the list is quite helpful, don't you?
I was being facetious. Why would this fellow book a HAL cruise knowing they allow smoking then get on here and bitch about it. I see no difference in that and me booking a Celebrity knowing I can't smoke and bitching about it. What list are you referring to?

[Nasmas]

I just bent a spoon:eek:


http://www.urigeller.com/pics/twgm5.jpg
I'm not the perfume guy but that stuff makes me ill. It cannot be good for you. It gets in my throat and chest and makes me sick. That is the God's truth. If we're going to ban one irritant, why not the other?
Oh, I get it. If it bothers me, tough. If it bothers you, ban it.

[Nasmas]

So, perfume that stinks to high heaven is ok if you are wearing it outside? We won't be able to smell it then?:confused: Let's split hairs. I need to remember that next time I bathe in a tub of L'Amoure or Evening in Paris.:)
Sure you can smell it outside, but it is not as stinking as it is in a confined area. See above about if it bothers me.

[RevNeal]

Looks like everyone has made an appearance!:cool:

http://www.pakistanihousewife.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/quit_smoking_funny_cartoon.jpg

Except me ... :eek: Ooops.



Never mind ;)

[pipedreams62]

We've neglected to give an honorable mention, to the infamous sewer gas


http://collegecandy.wordpress.com/files/2009/09/smell-bad-holding-nose.jpg

[usha]

Let's give a shout-out for bad breath:p
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_zuFqEiZ3zd4/RxnZnDf7XvI/AAAAAAAAAD8/UwxB9dEWcDk/s400/BadBreath.jpg

[pipedreams62]

Let's give a shout-out for bad breath:p
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_zuFqEiZ3zd4/RxnZnDf7XvI/AAAAAAAAAD8/UwxB9dEWcDk/s400/BadBreath.jpg


Thanks for the good belly laugh

OMG Usha you're going on a cruise real soon. Have a wonderful time

[suse]

Thanks for the good belly laugh

OMG Usha you're going on a cruise real soon. Have a wonderful time
Can you bring me back one of those souv. mugs, a cruise critic magnet, and I need one of those gadgets you can pin to your dress clothes to really show them you are a true mariner, as opposed to fake.
Have an awesome time....................:)

[sealovers]

Smoke on the Water
Cruise Ships: Where You Can & Can't Smoke
http://***************/churchills_qv.jpgChurchill's Cigar Bar Aboard Queen Victoria
by Linda Coffman
One of the unhappiest groups of cruisers I've even met were four World War II veterans aboard R-1. It was back in 1999, when now defunct-Renaissance Cruises was the only no-smoking-allowed cruise line in existence. The otherwise charming vets were all cigarette smokers whose wives thought a cruise on a non-smoking ship would prompt them to abandon their habit. They groused about their wives' deception, but managed to take matters into their own hands. In the wee hours of every morning while everyone else was fast asleep, the disgruntled vets held a "smoker" on the fantail of the ship.
While such an action isn't necessary on most ships these days, it is getting harder and harder to find a place to light up during a cruise. Ships are catching up to the rest of the hospitality industry and the smoking lamp has gone out in virtually all restaurants and showrooms at sea, as well as many of their bars and lounges. While casinos are one of the last bastions of smokers, some have "smoke-free" nights to clear the air.
Airlines were leaders in the non-smoking revolution, followed by restaurants and hotels that gradually phased in separate areas for smokers and then eliminated them altogether. Now, local governments across the United States and even Europe have enacted legislation that bans smokers from bars and even some outdoor cafes. The cruise industry was slow to follow the trend, mainly because of non-US passengers who don't object to smoking and, more importantly because of groups. Group bookings are important to cruise lines and groups hesitate to book on a non-smoking ship if even a minority of their members smoke. Groups don't want to leave anyone out or put them in an uncomfortable environment. There is also the matter of revenue. Carnival Cruise Lines' experiment with the smoke-free Carnival Paradise ended in less than a decade. The ship never matched the revenue of the rest of its fleetmates.
Think of that small group of veterans—they probably wouldn't be able to get away with their fantail rebellion these days. And, happily for them, they wouldn't have to break the rules on most cruise ships. Smokers realize there are designated places to smoke and places that are entirely smoke-free on the seas and most are willing to accept the compromise. The first thing they do is check for ashtrays and make friends with other smokers. "We're outcasts, aren't we?" is a common conversation starter between smokers who gather in smoking-designated areas. Cigar aficionados don't suffer the same indignities when they have their own "cigar lounge" to retreat to. They are accustomed to being banned from most public areas and are happy to find a lounge that accepts them. Otherwise, they are relegated to an outdoor deck, along with pipe smokers.
Only about twenty percent of American adults are currently smokers so it's not a big deal that smoking areas have shrunk. We applaud the cruise lines for their health and safety concerns, but also give them high marks for not ostracizing the minority of smokers who want to be comfortable with their habit. It's a win-win situation in most cases.
Smoking At Sea
Never smoke in an elevator, on stairways, or in corridors. As a rule of thumb, if there's an ashtray at hand, you can smoke; if there's food served nearby, you can't. Pipes, and sometimes cigars, are often restricted to open decks. These are some of the specific dos and don'ts:
Azamara Cruises
Where to Smoke: Small sections for smokers are located on the port side of the Looking Glass Lounge and the forward area of the pool deck on the starboard side.
Where NOT to Smoke: No other areas on the ships allow smoking, including all restaurants, lounges, casinos, cabins and balconies.
Carnival Cruise Lines
Where to Smoke: Cabins, private balconies, casinos, and designated areas in lounges and bars.
Where NOT to Smoke: Restaurants, show lounges, and the pool deck on those ships that have "indoor" areas serving food nearby.
Cigars: Cigar smoking is allowed only in cigar lounges and designated areas on open decks.
Celebrity Cruises
Where to Smoke: The port side of one lounge per ship, a designated slot machine area in each ship's casino, and designated areas on open decks, including the port side of the pool deck and sundecks on each ship, the port side of the Sunset Bar on Celebrity Century and on Celebrity's Millennium class of ships, and the port side aft outside of Winter Garden on Celebrity Mercury.
Where NOT to Smoke: Cabins, private balconies, show lounges, theaters, and restaurants, as well as the entire starboard side--indoors and outside. Celebrity Solstice's Lawn Club and the Sunset Bar at the Lawn Club do not allow smoking.
Cigars: Cigars are allowed only in designated sections of the open decks.
Costa Cruises
Where to Smoke: Cabins, private balconies, open decks, and designated smoking areas in public rooms.
Where NOT to Smoke: All restaurants and show lounges.
Cigars: Cigar smoking is allowed only in designated areas, including cigar lounges and on open decks.
Crystal Cruises
Where to Smoke: Cabins and in designated areas of bars, lounges, and open decks.
Where NOT to Smoke: Restaurants, show lounges, and private balconies.
Cigars: Cigars (and pipes) are allowed in the Connoisseur Club and most open decks.
Cunard Line
Where to Smoke: Cabins, private balconies, casinos, and in designated smoking sections of some bars and lounges.
Where NOT to Smoke: Show lounges, theaters, the library, and all restaurants.
Cigars: Cigars (and pipes) are permitted in cigar lounges, as well as on designated areas of open decks.
Disney Cruises
Where to Smoke: Cabin balconies and designated starboard-side open deck areas (including near the adults-only pool).
Where NOT to Smoke: All other indoor areas, including cabins, are smoke-free.
Holland America Line
Where to Smoke: Cabins, private balconies, casinos, and in designated areas of bars, lounges, and open decks.
Where NOT to Smoke: All restaurants and show lounges.
MSC Cruises
Where to Smoke: In Cigar rooms, casinos, one dedicated lounge, and designated areas on open decks.
Where NOT to Smoke: Cabins, private balconies, restaurants, show lounges, and all bars with the exception above.
Norwegian Cruise Line
Where to Smoke: Cabins, private balconies, casinos, cigar lounges, and designated areas on open decks.
Where NOT to Smoke: All indoor public areas, with the exceptions noted above, and outdoor food venues.
Oceania Cruises
Where to Smoke: Smoking is permitted only in the aft port side of Horizons, and the starboard forward section of the outdoor Pool Deck.
Where NOT to Smoke: All other areas are smoke-free. This includes all cabins and balconies, restaurants, public rooms, and open decks except for the two designated smoking areas.
Oceania has tightened its smoking regulations with a "zero tolerance" policy, which imposes strict penalties upon those who smoke outside designated areas—up to and including disembarkation from the ship.
Princess Cruises
Where to Smoke: Cabins, private balconies, and in designated areas in public rooms and open decks.
Where NOT to Smoke: Show lounges, elevators, dining rooms, and all food service areas. Additionally, "smoke-free nights" are scheduled in the casino.
Cigars: Cigar smoking is allowed only in cigar lounges and on open decks; pipe smoking is allowed on open decks.
Regent Seven Seas Cruises
Where to Smoke: Smoking is permitted on open decks, in the casino and Connoisseur Club on Seven Seas Mariner, Navigator, and Voyager, and in designated smoking areas in one lounge on each ship.
Where NOT to Smoke: Cabins, private balconies, all indoor dining areas, and all public rooms except as noted above.
Cigars: Cigar smoking is permitted in the Connoisseur Club on Seven Seas Mariner, Navigator, and Voyager, and in designated areas of open decks. Pipe smoking is permitted only in the Connoisseur Club on those ships and is prohibited on other ships.
Royal Caribbean
Where to Smoke: Private ocean view balconies, the starboard side of open decks, and in designated smoking areas of certain public rooms.
Where NOT to Smoke: In cabins (passengers who smoke in their cabins will be fined $250), restaurants, show lounges, passageways, the port sides of open decks, and one public lounge on each ship, which is designated non-smoking.
Cigars: Cigar and pipe smoking is only permitted within the cigar lounge. If no cigar lounge exists on the ship, there will be a designated area for pipe and cigar smoking
Seabourn Cruise Line
Where to Smoke: Cabins, private balconies, and designated areas of open decks.
Where NOT to Smoke: Restaurants (including outside areas where food is served), lounges, and elevators.
Cigars: Cigar and pipe smoking are allowed only in designated areas on open decks after 9pm.
SeaDream Yacht Club
Where to Smoke: Outdoors on Decks 3, 4 and 6.
Where NOT to Smoke: All indoor spaces, including cabins, and outside on Decks 2 and 5.
Silversea Cruises
Where to Smoke: Cabins, private balconies, designated areas of The Bar, aft of the Terrace Café (outside), the casino, and designated areas on open decks.
Where NOT to Smoke: Restaurants, the show lounge, and all other public rooms.
Cigars: Cigar and pipe smoking is permitted in cigar lounges and designated areas on outside decks.
Windstar Cruises
Where to Smoke: Designated areas on outside decks only.
Where NOT to Smoke: All indoor spaces, including cabins.
Cigars: Cigar and pipe smoking are allowed only on designated outside deck areas.
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Thanks for the consolidated list. There appears to be a cruiseline to appease anyone. Perfumes and other concentrated fragrance essences are not addressed anywhere though. I know someone whose allergy to perfumes (car fumes, chemicals and many other things) are so severe she cannot think of cruising and must rely on others to do most things that require being in a public area - - including grocery shopping. Thank goodness the usual reaction for most of us with those allergies is only a stuffy nose and sometimes an unpleasant lingering taste!

I would suggest that anyone who has a preference to a smoking/non-smoking environment on a ship, to do a final check with the cruiseline selected, prior to actually booking.

[suse]

I was being facetious. Why would this fellow book a HAL cruise knowing they allow smoking then get on here and bitch about it. I see no difference in that and me booking a Celebrity knowing I can't smoke and bitching about it. What list are you referring to?
You know, that crazy long list at the beginning of this thread that tells you how the cruise lines are dealing with this smoking thing.
Of course we don't mean to tease about perfume. It makes my eyes water, I kid you not. I also can't stand too much makeup; it hurts my eyes to look at it.
I'm kind of a natural smachural. You know the kind; I like to hang my fresh laundry out on the line.............kind of that sort of thing.
Good luck. Best wishes.

[Zappa Fan]

"I would suggest that anyone who has a preference to a smoking/non-smoking environment on a ship, to do a final check with the cruiseline selected, prior to actually booking."

Much too logical for militant anti-smokers. Those folks would rather complain loudly. (Much like the formal-wear police who are refusing to accept the fact that HAL has become much more casual than in past years....I've seen this in just a few years.)

[suse]

"I would suggest that anyone who has a preference to a smoking/non-smoking environment on a ship, to do a final check with the cruiseline selected, prior to actually booking."

Much too logical for militant anti-smokers. Those folks would rather complain loudly. (Much like the formal-wear police who are refusing to accept the fact that HAL has become much more casual than in past years....I've seen this in just a few years.)
Logic does not apply on these boards. Sorry to let you down.

[suse]

Is Frank Zappa still alive?

[pipedreams62]

I'm kind of a natural smachural. You know the kind; I like to hang my fresh laundry out on the line.............kind of that sort of thing.
Good luck. Best wishes.



You don't mean this


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[debmkay]

Whatever the rules are the rules are, obey them. smoker get over it, non smoker get over it.

[suse]

You don't mean this


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3635/3405219992_3fb68fddcf.jpg
That is foreign to me! I'm a jazzy kind of gal who likes to hang her sheets and non personal items on a clothes line. It's pretty hip these days to save the earth.:)

[suse]

Those sandals are gross and the socks look like they need a good washing. Ick. I can smell them from here. Disgusting.

[suse]

Whatever the rules are the rules are, obey them. smoker get over it, non smoker get over it.
You should run for office or something. That is so funny. Jest get over it you dopes.
Good night.;)

[usha]

Is Frank Zappa still alive?
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, no.
He died...of cancer. (prostate)

[cigarman]

Hello, my screen name is Cigarman. Wonder why? I quit smoking cigarettes almost three years ago on advice of my Doctor. Long story I won't get into.
However, when I cruise with my wife, who also quit smoking early last year, I enjoy sitting and relaxing with a nice port and good cigar. No brands will be mentioned to protect the real smokers who inhabit this forum.
I am sorry that my cigar smoke wafting onto and over your balcony causes you some discomfort. If you ask I would take a few more savory puffs and cut the end off to save it for later. If you expect me to crush it or throw my cigar overboard (heaven forbid) this I will not do. When I am attacked by your perfume I say nothing and go my way. I know second hand perfume won't for the most part kill me, but you get the point. Yes I go to the lounge after dinner for a drink and cigar with comradeship of fellow aficionados and I enjoy every smoked filled mouth full.
So for those of you who dislike the smell of a fine cigar, there has to be at least one of you, if you see me on a balcony and wish me to stop, please just ask instead of getting mad and writing a long missive on this board that gets all blown out of proportion.
And be warned that we will smoke our cigars in the bar after dinner when the ship gives us permission.
Now lets all get along and have a really great time cruising the way we know better then any other cruisers out there.
Thanks, Cigarman.

[usha]

"I would suggest that anyone who has a preference to a smoking/non-smoking environment on a ship, to do a final check with the cruiseline selected, prior to actually booking."

Much too logical for militant anti-smokers. Those folks would rather complain loudly. (Much like the formal-wear police who are refusing to accept the fact that HAL has become much more casual than in past years....I've seen this in just a few years.)
"Those folks" would rather breathe air.
My suggestion for non-smokers is to write to the cruise lines who are not taking us seriously, and let them know that we'll be back when they get their act together, and adopt a stricter smoking policy.:cool:

[esther e]

Usha, love your new hair=do!!!!:)

[Zappa Fan]

Great post, CigarMan. I've been known to puff on an occasional cigar. We'd enjoy cruising with you and yours! ;)

[Zappa Fan]

"Those folks" would rather breathe air.
My suggestion for non-smokers is to write to the cruise lines who are not taking us seriously, and let them know that we'll be back when they get their act together, and adopt a stricter smoking policy.:cool:

Hi Usha.... HAL allows smoking. HAL has lessened their dress code. Perhaps it's time for the complainers to move on. (As fashion police suggest....I'm thinking that they might just have the right idea) Find a cruise line that FITS your comfort zone. Just thinking.... :)

[usha]

Hi Usha.... HAL allows smoking. Just thinking.... :)
...about that next ciggie???
Well, most folks are thinking about a lot of other non-stinky stuff.
I'll bet HAL is starting to wonder if maybe they should start catering to US????
Just thinking...:)

[Zappa Fan]

Have perfected my smoke-ring action. Ready to try it on MY balcony. :D

[usha]

Usha, love your new hair=do!!!!:)
Thanks, esther! You can make yourself a new hair do, too!
Just visit:
http://www.customsouthparks.com/ :cool:

[debmkay]

you know I am an ex smoker and If i could do the same as an ex cigar smoker I would. I would just smoke at casinos and happy Go for it and let me know how it goes !

[HWY 101]

Smoke on the Water
Cruise Ships: Where You Can & Can't Smoke
http://***************/churchills_qv.jpgChurchill's Cigar Bar Aboard Queen Victoria
by Linda Coffman
One of the unhappiest groups of cruisers I've even met were four World War II veterans aboard R-1. It was back in 1999, when now defunct-Renaissance Cruises was the only no-smoking-allowed cruise line in existence. The otherwise charming vets were all cigarette smokers whose wives thought a cruise on a non-smoking ship would prompt them to abandon their habit. They groused about their wives' deception, but managed to take matters into their own hands. In the wee hours of every morning while everyone else was fast asleep, the disgruntled vets held a "smoker" on the fantail of the ship.
While such an action isn't necessary on most ships these days, it is getting harder and harder to find a place to light up during a cruise. Ships are catching up to the rest of the hospitality industry and the smoking lamp has gone out in virtually all restaurants and showrooms at sea, as well as many of their bars and lounges. While casinos are one of the last bastions of smokers, some have "smoke-free" nights to clear the air.
Airlines were leaders in the non-smoking revolution, followed by restaurants and hotels that gradually phased in separate areas for smokers and then eliminated them altogether. Now, local governments across the United States and even Europe have enacted legislation that bans smokers from bars and even some outdoor cafes. The cruise industry was slow to follow the trend, mainly because of non-US passengers who don't object to smoking and, more importantly because of groups. Group bookings are important to cruise lines and groups hesitate to book on a non-smoking ship if even a minority of their members smoke. Groups don't want to leave anyone out or put them in an uncomfortable environment. There is also the matter of revenue. Carnival Cruise Lines' experiment with the smoke-free Carnival Paradise ended in less than a decade. The ship never matched the revenue of the rest of its fleetmates.
Think of that small group of veterans—they probably wouldn't be able to get away with their fantail rebellion these days. And, happily for them, they wouldn't have to break the rules on most cruise ships. Smokers realize there are designated places to smoke and places that are entirely smoke-free on the seas and most are willing to accept the compromise. The first thing they do is check for ashtrays and make friends with other smokers. "We're outcasts, aren't we?" is a common conversation starter between smokers who gather in smoking-designated areas. Cigar aficionados don't suffer the same indignities when they have their own "cigar lounge" to retreat to. They are accustomed to being banned from most public areas and are happy to find a lounge that accepts them. Otherwise, they are relegated to an outdoor deck, along with pipe smokers.
Only about twenty percent of American adults are currently smokers so it's not a big deal that smoking areas have shrunk. We applaud the cruise lines for their health and safety concerns, but also give them high marks for not ostracizing the minority of smokers who want to be comfortable with their habit. It's a win-win situation in most cases.
Smoking At Sea
Never smoke in an elevator, on stairways, or in corridors. As a rule of thumb, if there's an ashtray at hand, you can smoke; if there's food served nearby, you can't. Pipes, and sometimes cigars, are often restricted to open decks. These are some of the specific dos and don'ts:
Azamara Cruises
Where to Smoke: Small sections for smokers are located on the port side of the Looking Glass Lounge and the forward area of the pool deck on the starboard side.
Where NOT to Smoke: No other areas on the ships allow smoking, including all restaurants, lounges, casinos, cabins and balconies.
Carnival Cruise Lines
Where to Smoke: Cabins, private balconies, casinos, and designated areas in lounges and bars.
Where NOT to Smoke: Restaurants, show lounges, and the pool deck on those ships that have "indoor" areas serving food nearby.
Cigars: Cigar smoking is allowed only in cigar lounges and designated areas on open decks.
Celebrity Cruises
Where to Smoke: The port side of one lounge per ship, a designated slot machine area in each ship's casino, and designated areas on open decks, including the port side of the pool deck and sundecks on each ship, the port side of the Sunset Bar on Celebrity Century and on Celebrity's Millennium class of ships, and the port side aft outside of Winter Garden on Celebrity Mercury.
Where NOT to Smoke: Cabins, private balconies, show lounges, theaters, and restaurants, as well as the entire starboard side--indoors and outside. Celebrity Solstice's Lawn Club and the Sunset Bar at the Lawn Club do not allow smoking.
Cigars: Cigars are allowed only in designated sections of the open decks.
Costa Cruises
Where to Smoke: Cabins, private balconies, open decks, and designated smoking areas in public rooms.
Where NOT to Smoke: All restaurants and show lounges.
Cigars: Cigar smoking is allowed only in designated areas, including cigar lounges and on open decks.
Crystal Cruises
Where to Smoke: Cabins and in designated areas of bars, lounges, and open decks.
Where NOT to Smoke: Restaurants, show lounges, and private balconies.
Cigars: Cigars (and pipes) are allowed in the Connoisseur Club and most open decks.
Cunard Line
Where to Smoke: Cabins, private balconies, casinos, and in designated smoking sections of some bars and lounges.
Where NOT to Smoke: Show lounges, theaters, the library, and all restaurants.
Cigars: Cigars (and pipes) are permitted in cigar lounges, as well as on designated areas of open decks.
Disney Cruises
Where to Smoke: Cabin balconies and designated starboard-side open deck areas (including near the adults-only pool).
Where NOT to Smoke: All other indoor areas, including cabins, are smoke-free.
Holland America Line
Where to Smoke: Cabins, private balconies, casinos, and in designated areas of bars, lounges, and open decks.
Where NOT to Smoke: All restaurants and show lounges.
MSC Cruises
Where to Smoke: In Cigar rooms, casinos, one dedicated lounge, and designated areas on open decks.
Where NOT to Smoke: Cabins, private balconies, restaurants, show lounges, and all bars with the exception above.
Norwegian Cruise Line
Where to Smoke: Cabins, private balconies, casinos, cigar lounges, and designated areas on open decks.
Where NOT to Smoke: All indoor public areas, with the exceptions noted above, and outdoor food venues.
Oceania Cruises
Where to Smoke: Smoking is permitted only in the aft port side of Horizons, and the starboard forward section of the outdoor Pool Deck.
Where NOT to Smoke: All other areas are smoke-free. This includes all cabins and balconies, restaurants, public rooms, and open decks except for the two designated smoking areas.
Oceania has tightened its smoking regulations with a "zero tolerance" policy, which imposes strict penalties upon those who smoke outside designated areas—up to and including disembarkation from the ship.
Princess Cruises
Where to Smoke: Cabins, private balconies, and in designated areas in public rooms and open decks.
Where NOT to Smoke: Show lounges, elevators, dining rooms, and all food service areas. Additionally, "smoke-free nights" are scheduled in the casino.
Cigars: Cigar smoking is allowed only in cigar lounges and on open decks; pipe smoking is allowed on open decks.
Regent Seven Seas Cruises
Where to Smoke: Smoking is permitted on open decks, in the casino and Connoisseur Club on Seven Seas Mariner, Navigator, and Voyager, and in designated smoking areas in one lounge on each ship.
Where NOT to Smoke: Cabins, private balconies, all indoor dining areas, and all public rooms except as noted above.
Cigars: Cigar smoking is permitted in the Connoisseur Club on Seven Seas Mariner, Navigator, and Voyager, and in designated areas of open decks. Pipe smoking is permitted only in the Connoisseur Club on those ships and is prohibited on other ships.
Royal Caribbean
Where to Smoke: Private ocean view balconies, the starboard side of open decks, and in designated smoking areas of certain public rooms.
Where NOT to Smoke: In cabins (passengers who smoke in their cabins will be fined $250), restaurants, show lounges, passageways, the port sides of open decks, and one public lounge on each ship, which is designated non-smoking.
Cigars: Cigar and pipe smoking is only permitted within the cigar lounge. If no cigar lounge exists on the ship, there will be a designated area for pipe and cigar smoking
Seabourn Cruise Line
Where to Smoke: Cabins, private balconies, and designated areas of open decks.
Where NOT to Smoke: Restaurants (including outside areas where food is served), lounges, and elevators.
Cigars: Cigar and pipe smoking are allowed only in designated areas on open decks after 9pm.
SeaDream Yacht Club
Where to Smoke: Outdoors on Decks 3, 4 and 6.
Where NOT to Smoke: All indoor spaces, including cabins, and outside on Decks 2 and 5.
Silversea Cruises
Where to Smoke: Cabins, private balconies, designated areas of The Bar, aft of the Terrace Café (outside), the casino, and designated areas on open decks.
Where NOT to Smoke: Restaurants, the show lounge, and all other public rooms.
Cigars: Cigar and pipe smoking is permitted in cigar lounges and designated areas on outside decks.
Windstar Cruises
Where to Smoke: Designated areas on outside decks only.
Where NOT to Smoke: All indoor spaces, including cabins.
Cigars: Cigar and pipe smoking are allowed only on designated outside deck areas.
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[m steve]

and now I don't but I don't begrudge those who do. I don't understand someone who takes a cruise and smokes on the balcony all day and night. We are not taking X any longer due to non smoking policy for balconies. My partner smokes her cigarettes only where allowed to. Since there are a lot of lines prohibiting balcony smoking those with problems could choose them or just adjust to HAL and Princess policies. We choose them because of their policies and don't book Asamara, X or Oceania. There are some people who just want to dictate rules so others will be inconvenienced. There are cruise lines that fit every need and most are priced quite similarly and offer itineraries quite the same.

[suse]

and now I don't but I don't begrudge those who do. I don't understand someone who takes a cruise and smokes on the balcony all day and night. We are not taking X any longer due to non smoking policy for balconies. My partner smokes her cigarettes only where allowed to. Since there are a lot of lines prohibiting balcony smoking those with problems could choose them or just adjust to HAL and Princess policies. We choose them because of their policies and don't book Asamara, X or Oceania. There are some people who just want to dictate rules so others will be inconvenienced. There are cruise lines that fit every need and most are priced quite similarly and offer itineraries quite the same.
on your quit.:)

[Nasmas]

and now I don't but I don't begrudge those who do. I don't understand someone who takes a cruise and smokes on the balcony all day and night. We are not taking X any longer due to non smoking policy for balconies. My partner smokes her cigarettes only where allowed to. Since there are a lot of lines prohibiting balcony smoking those with problems could choose them or just adjust to HAL and Princess policies. We choose them because of their policies and don't book Asamara, X or Oceania. There are some people who just want to dictate rules so others will be inconvenienced. There are cruise lines that fit every need and most are priced quite similarly and offer itineraries quite the same.
My sentiments exactly. Thank you.

[shootr]

This will be my second cruise in 15 years. My first balcony. My vacation enjoyment includes: Coors Light, Snickers bar, and a Macanudo at sunset. Feel free to join in but I ain't giving it up!

Just my .02... :D:D:D

[JimVrhovac]

The sweetest moments in life are free ENJOY

Jim (without Ruth)

[cruiseing marly]

So far we have been blessed on our last three cruises no chain smokers on our cruises(on the balcony). If we were to be unlucky and have that happen to us it might make us change cruise lines. That is something that i would not like to do.Hopefully we all have enough sense not to enfringe on any ones rights.

[sealovers]

"I would suggest that anyone who has a preference to a smoking/non-smoking environment on a ship, to do a final check with the cruiseline selected, prior to actually booking."

Much too logical for militant anti-smokers. Those folks would rather complain loudly. (Much like the formal-wear police who are refusing to accept the fact that HAL has become much more casual than in past years....I've seen this in just a few years.)

It seems that most people are so careful about booking a cruise with the correct type cabin, itinerary, cuisine, etc. (just read the gazillions of pre-booking questions here on the CC boards), that they would be concerned about booking on a cruiseline that suits their smoking preference also. But, some just want to complain about something, no matter what. Such people will find something to complain about - - it's their life's motto - - very sad. I stay out of Biker Bars, Strip Joints, stores with bars on the windows and doors, bad parts of town, etc just because that doesn't suit me. Fact is though, that these places suit many. I'm certainly not going to write an editorial in the local newspaper to complain about their lifestyle because it doesn't suit me. "To each his own". Is this still the U.S.A.?

Off topic, but:
And, you're so right about the casual atmosphere that I've observed on HAL. I don't know how it was before (only began cruising HAL September 2008), but this last year, most seem to really dress only for photos. I've observed that most dress 'nice' for formal nights that does show they went out of their way to 'fit in', in their own way. For goodness sakes - - sailing is a vacation, not a fashion show!

Okay. I'm stepping down from my soap box and looking forward to cruising next week with the wonderful people who chose to cruise HAL for their reasons.