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bonnyweed
December 4th, 2004, 10:22 PM
Just got back from Ryndam Mexican Riviera cruise and thought I would put down some of my observations. Embarkation was very easy. For those driving to San Diego, the pier parking is incredibly convenient (can easily walk with rolling luggage to the ship) though it is $12 per day. I think some of the park and fly companies offer shuttle service to the pier on cruise days and the price can get down to $9 per day.
Embarkation began promptly at 11:30 am though many cabins were not available till 1:30 pm.
The new ship improvements were impressive. The Crow's Nest is completely redone in a dramatic color scheme with large seating areas of circular banquettes with sheer white curtains creating little areas of privacy. The look and colors are bold but the upholstered furnishings soften the effect. For those wanting to read a book during the day, there are gorgeous leather loungers facing the sea...very comfy.
Explorations Cafe is a great addition. The library was very comprehensive with over 2000 titles and spread out over a large area. All the books are new and really cover a wide variety of interests. The internet cafe is in this area as well as audio listening stations with comfortable seating which appeared to be very popular.
I had an inside cabin so can't say much about in-cabin amenities. However, I did have the upgraded mattress and linens along with the flat screen TV and DVD player. DVD rentals were available in the Explorations Cafe.
The Culinary Arts area in the Wajang Theater was very state-of-the-art. I think there were 3 or 4 free cooking demonstrations which were very popular. There were also small group cooking classes which lasted 1 and 1/2 hours and cost $39 per person. I didn't attend the privare lessons and I think they were offered only a couple of times.
The Greenhouse Spa featured the thermal suite which is available for $15 per day or $60 for the cruise. I loved it! The heated mosaic tile lounges, therapeutic showers, aromatherapy saunas and private spa tub were wonderful! This was a very under-utilized which made for a very pleasant and soothing relaxation time. The room was a bit too cool though and this was a minor distraction. If you purchase the thermal suite pass, you also have use of the private relaxation room with its lovely free fresh-squeezed juices, teas and fruit.
The gym looked well-equipped. The gym locker rooms also had a (free) sauna for those who would enjoy a sauna but do not wish to purchase the thermal suite.
Weather was very cold leaving San Diego and continued through the entire first sea day. No sun-bathing! It was also very cold for the last 1 and 1/2 sea days on the return. However, weather in the ports was warm and pleasant.
Ok, now for my opinions, which are just my opinions. Rotterdam Dining Room offered food which was very much to my liking but garnered a considerable amount of criticism from my table mates. I heard some consistent themes of food not being quite hot. Waiter had difficulty delivering the correct items to the diners. I don't need much in the way of chit-chat but there was a definite change in the manner and "ambiance" of service. Very little banter, somewhat of a strained atmosphere. Wine steward had far too many diners to be responsible for. For me....fine. For others, this could be a problem. I overheard some conversations in which some passengers were stating they were removing all the dining room tips and I feel that is unfortunate. I don't know the solution to the somewhat tense dining atmosphere. The 4 dining times actually seemed to flow without a hitch.
Shipboard activities were very limited. Very little cultural or educational programming. Port briefings focused exclusively on shopping. Daytime activities included putting contests, trivia games, bingo, art auctions. I think people were really starved for something interesting....perhaps this is why the culinary arts presentations were so well-attended.
Music included Champagne Strings (very nice), a horrendous combo named Eureka and some other lounge piano & instrumental stuff. Except for the Champagne Strings, the entertainment was pretty much "musak" in nature. I imagine that the line feels it is catering to an older clientele (and they are) but many of the oldest passengers had little interest in the uninspired offerings.
For shows, the 2 production shows were well-received. A comic, a magician and a guitarist were also favorably received.
Cabo San Lucas required tender service to get ashore. The other two ports allowed the ships to dock alongside at the pier.
I hadn't been to these ports before. Having sailed a bit in the Caribbean, I found these Mexican Riviera ports to be less appealing. In all 3 ports, the taxi, shore excursion and jewelry vendors were very aggressive. Reminded me of some experiences I have had in Jamaica. I liked Mazatlan best because of its architecture and more laid-back feel. I had a great day at the Crystal Hotel in Puerto Vallarta....only 10 minutes walk from the pier. You can get a resort day pass for 150 pesos and that money is credited to your food and beverage tab. Very nice beach, extensive pools, hammocks.....loved it.
Cocktails on board ship were excellent....many freshly -prepared mixers. The price was steep however. My favorite was the the Sexy Citrus Cosmo. I brought a bottle of wine on board and also 2 bottles of liquor. I was prepared to have the liquor confiscated but this was not happening to anyone.
My overall impression was a a solid cruise-product but quite lacking in enthusiasm, imagination or "heart." I enjoyed myself very much. However, I will look toward Celebrity or Royal Caribbean for my next cruise. Hope you found this helpful. If not.....ignore it.

Peggy Sue
December 4th, 2004, 10:52 PM
Thank you for taking the time to post your review. I enjoyed reading it and found you presented a well balanced review of your cruise.

We recently returned from the Volendam and left with many of the same impressions you've posted here. We really enjoyed the ship, and the friends we met on board, but we found the overall experience was lacking some pizazz...we were looking for things to do, and missed hearing music out on the deck ect.

The recent HAL upgrades sound terrific. We will be sailing on the Zaandam next June (Alaska) and we are looking forward to checking out upgrades!

Again, thank for your review..Welcome Home!!

Peggy Sue

grandma bev
December 4th, 2004, 11:10 PM
Thanks for your review. OUr family is doing the Christmas cruise on the Ryndam, and your observations seem to be exactly what I expect. We enjoy the HAL smaller ships BECAUSE they don't have lots and lots of activities. Have been on jazz cruises on Zaandam and Maasdam, etc. BECAUSE of the non-stop music of the 40's. When we want activities, we go on a music specialty cruise, or one of the large "mega ships".

Grandma Bev

15 cruises and counting.
Ryndam Dec. 18

RuthC
December 4th, 2004, 11:41 PM
Thank you for your report. I'm interested in reading about the entertainment on board. You mentioned that several entertainers in the show lounge were good; would you mind naming them, please? A good recommendation will encourage me to go to the show if I ever see them listed.

Also, who was playing in the Piano Bar? Could you comment on the entertainment there? I have closed that bar many a night; I do hope HAL didn't change it under the SOE program. (except to fix the barstool I broke once, :o Don't ask.) It was already excellent as far as I'm concerned.

Krazy Kruizers
December 5th, 2004, 08:39 AM
Thanks for taking the time to write your review.

Sorry that you don't feel HAL will be your next cruise.

bonnyweed
December 5th, 2004, 09:21 AM
Ruth C. The production shows in Vermeer Lounge were Broadway (something) on 2nd night and then Morocco later in the week. I can't remember the names of the other entertainers (I missed some nights) and I don't have a daily schedule with me. I'm sure we you will enjoy the Piano Bar...they had repaired your bar stool.

KrazyKruiser and Grandma Bev. The cruise was fine and I hope I'll be on HAL again. I'm not one to want tons of activities or big-ship glitz......just want some activities that are stimulating and offer a learning experience. I'm just wanting to revisit some other line now to see if there is a bit more variety in age and activities.

PeggySue Thanks for your warm reply and would also be interested in hearing your experiences.

wander
December 5th, 2004, 10:20 AM
Bonnyweed,

Based on my experience and reports on this board, for topical lecturers and more intellectually stimulating activities you probably need to go on a HAL cruise other than Mexico and/or the Caribbean.

kruzkeen
December 5th, 2004, 11:13 AM
The gym looked well-equipped. The gym locker rooms also had a (free) sauna for those who would enjoy a sauna but do not wish to purchase the thermal suite.


Thanks for this info. It is something that I have been wonderering about.

Was it only a dry sauna or is there a steam room and showers available as well?

Ken

bonnyweed
December 5th, 2004, 12:34 PM
kruzkeen
What I saw was a very nice dry sauna though I didn't explore completely to see if a steam room might be hidden somewhere. There were nice showers, bathroom in there as well. The gym locker room is also the changing room for people getting spa treatments.

HeatherInFlorida
December 5th, 2004, 01:13 PM
Bonnyweed, I read your report with a sincere interest because my Oosterdam experience closely resembled yours in a number of areas, though not all.

Your words "lacking in enthusiasm, imagination and heart" hit home because that was just my reaction coming away from our cruise just a few weeks ago. It wasn't that we didn't have a really nice time; it was simply not up to past cruises (even on HAL 2 years ago there was a decidedly different "feel").

I agree, too, with your experience in the DR except that while our servers did not have the time, or even show any enthusiasm, for my favorite idle banter, they did serve well and at a good pace and I was never uncomfortable. But when I think back to many other cruises, I remember many of my waiters as though they were my friends.

In the end for me, and obviously for you, it came down to almost a feeling of sadness and tiredness amongst the crew and that does have an effect on your overall enjoyment of the cruise.

I don't agree with Wander that you should have to go elsewhere than the Caribbean or Mexico in order to have stimulating shipboard ativities and lecturers. We had virtually none on the Oosterdam, or very few, while on Celebrity last year I was scampering all over the place to attend various talks. One of my favorites was a "sitdown" discussion with the CD and his assistant. It was enormously fun, personal and informational about shipboard life. This would not be difficult or expensive for HAL to deliver.

Many thanks for your comments and taking the time to explain your feelings so well in a relatively short amount of space.

azvickie
December 5th, 2004, 04:13 PM
Bonneyweed

That you for your post i sail on the ryndam in 6 days and am looking forward to my cruise. I don't think I will miss activities, I plan on taking a stack of books along.


vickie

bonnyweed
December 5th, 2004, 08:38 PM
to azvicki
My location is actually Sells Arizona on the Tohono O'odham reservation. I can't seem to get my profile to change from "Maine." Very cold and rainy here in Southern Arizona today. You are picking a great time to get away. Hope you have a wonderful cruise.
As I mentioned, there is a great selection of books aboard if that helps with your packing. Even the really recent hardcovers!

rkacruiser
December 5th, 2004, 08:44 PM
Wander's opinion concerning lecturers on Caribbean cruises is correct from my experience. On their longer cruises, Holland America's Flagship Forum speakers have been excellent. For most people on a short cruise(7 -10 days), I think there are too many things for people to experience that going to "educational-type" sessions tend not to be a high priority. (And I am one who really does like such experiences!) On my recently completed Queen Mary 2 cruise--a 10 day Caribbean cruise-- there were such lecture opprotunities offered. (I now wish I had gone, just to see what kind of attendance there was; but none of the topics were of interest. I prefered to enjoy my veranda with a good book instead.)

Sky's Mom
December 8th, 2004, 11:30 PM
Bonnie's review is quite accurate. I was on the same sailing and had the pleasure of meeting Bonnie.

Service in the DR was very slow. It appeared that there was only one bus boy for each waiter. I was with a group of 28 and some nights dessert had to be skipped in order to see the show. Breakfast in the DR was even worse. One morning it took over 10 minutes to even get acknowledged.

I would like to see the Lido restaurant stay open later on port days. If you were on a tour and didn't get back to the ship until 4 or 5 (possibly missing lunch) there were few choices. Just sandwiches, burgers or room service.

I tried room service one day - took an hour for a cheese burger and it was COLD when it arrived. (Glad I didn't have to pay for it)

One of the highlights was dinner and lunch in the Pinnacle Grill. It is worth the extra money (dinner $20, lunch $10) Food and service was excellent. There is a differenct menu for lunch and dinner. Filet is out of this world.

A few members of the group I was with, including myself, did notice a sewer odor. It was also noticable outside of the ship in Matzalan. Either is disapeared or I got used to it by day 4.

I did a guaranteed share and had to change cabins. I did not get my invitation to the Mariners receiption until after it had occured. I had problems getting my "tile" after numerous phone calls to the front desk I finally received it the last night of the cruise. (who knows what else I missed - I'm thankful that there was no emergency where someone had to get a hold of me)

Bonnie forgot to mention that we did see a few whales Friday afternoon. I seen some Saturday, but that was at Sea World.

My cabin was clean, always had fresh fruit and clean towels. Morris was my steward. We did have rough seas one evening and Morris seen me trying to walk down the hallway (the strongest I had to drink that day was water), he asked if I needed anything and about 20 minutes later he appeared at the cabin door with some sea calm pills. I took two, don't know if I really needed it, but why take the chance.

I did have a good time, but I will probably look into other cruise lines for future cruises. I won't completely rule out HAL, but I will think twice about it.

gizmo
December 9th, 2004, 08:16 AM
Thanks for taking the time to post the reviews.

Bonnyweed,
Sorry you did not enjoy Mexico as much as I did. I thought it was a nice change from the Caribbean.
:)