Another Carnival passenger overboard?

[Golfgrl1911]

I just read in the local newspaper that another Carnival passenger is missing and presumed to have fallen overboard 30 miles west of Ensenada, Mexico. The name of the 37 year old woman was not released, but the search began about 3 hours after she failed to show up for dinner. How many "lost" passengers does this make for Carnival this year? Is this something new or am I just made aware of it because of my interest in cruising as of the past year? Could the release of the book Skinny Dip be the reason (more people are offing their spouses on cruise ships because there's no real evidence)?

[Krazy Kruizers]

Heard about it on the news this morning.

It is sad.

Seems as though we never do find out what really has happened to these passengers. Fell overboard - due to drinking. Distraught and jumped. Pushed overboard. So many scenarios.

[tomc]

I'm not sure that it's just Carnival. I posted, either here or over at C@, that I've been making a very unscientific and anecdotal survey of disappearances and they seem to be on the last night out. I'm not drawing any conclusions from this, as there could be any number of unconnected reasons (or it could be that people can't face whatever they left onshore). This has included crew, as well as pax. I am saddened by all of them and pray for their eternal rest.

[1cruiselvr]

Moral of the story: If your SO suddenly takes an interest in cruising, BEWARE!:D :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[JB007]

The problem is the Cruise lines understandable want to keep suicide, murder and carelessness under wraps. They truely do not investigate very diligently. For one they do not empoly professional investiagators, their security staff is much to be desired. They woorry about law suits and cover up crimes commited on board. They get crew members off the ship if they are accused of a crime or suspected of a crime before coast guard or police can talk to them. In any other walk of life that alone would be a crime of harboring and obstruction. There have been far to many rapes, assaults, and even murder aboard cruise shiips. As a whole cruise ships are safe but remember they are floating cities and cities have crime but this city has no police force and plays by different rules. So have fun but be aware of your sourroundings just as if you were visitng any city or tourist attration. Happy sailings.

[xpcdoojk]

Not to mention, most people probably don't witness the event, and the person is discovered to be missing hours later. Makes for an impossible quest for facts, especially if the body is not recovered.

jc

[trubey]

The problem is the Cruise lines understandable want to keep suicide, murder and carelessness under wraps. (blah, blah, etc. snip) Happy sailings.
Ah, a charter member of the 'Conspiracy Theory of the Week Club'.

lkt

[jjones]

On the TV news last night it was stated Carnival had called the FBI. The woman was cruising with her daughter and exhibited no sign of depression. However, the news reported the daughter had stated her mother was being stalked by a male passenger for most of the cruise.

[DoctorFeelgood]

Here's what a San Diego paper said:

"A second Coast Guard search and rescue effort was conducted yesterday 30 miles west of Ensenada for a 37-year-old woman who may have fallen overboard.
After the woman did not appear for a 10 p.m. event on the ship, the Carnival Pride, the crew searched the ship and then called the Coast Guard. A rescue helicopter searched around the ship but did not find the woman. That search was canceled at 5:45 p.m. "


Presumably innocent passengers don't just "fall" overboard, but isn't there ANY chance of a competent swimmer staying alive for longer than 24 hours? Does the ship not have to turn back and at least TRY to look?

[jhannah]

How truly sad. My heart goes out to those she left behind. While a disappearance at sea tends to make the news, it's really no different than any land-based disappearance/suicide. Happens every day. There's no way to prevent it short of tailing someone 24/7.

[tomc]

DrFeelGood

If you check the Carnival board, you will see that the Pride did, indeed, go back and search.

[bepsf]

On the TV news last night it was stated Carnival had called the FBI. The woman was cruising with her daughter and exhibited no sign of depression. However, the news reported the daughter had stated her mother was being stalked by a male passenger for most of the cruise.
Sounds like an episode of "Desperate Housewives"...

[CDRMark]

Recent newscast said that a security camera was found to have been 'tampered with'. Wait and see.

[JB007]

As I stated earlier do not throw caution to the wind and do not expect the cruise line to investigate very well. I have over 30 years of law enforcement experience 17 as a homicide detective. Remember 3000 passengers another 1100 plus crew is a small city. You can have fun and be careful too. :)

[Searanger]

Here is an article from from cruise news last week when someone fell off the Fascination.

"While falling from a cruise ship is a rare occurrence, a quick review of the Cruise News archives reveals that at least 11 passengers and crew have fallen overboard from a cruise ship since February of 2000. According to the information in our files: 1) Males are much more likely to go overboard than females (9vs2) 2) Carnival passengers (6 incidents) are more likely to go overboard than passengers from other cruise lines...especially passengers on the Fascination (2 incidents) 3) The average age of a passenger who goes overboard is 33 years old. 4) You are most likely to fall overboard on the last night of your cruise. 5) For some reason, people from Virginia go overboard more than others. (3 incidents) 6) Falling overboard does not necessarily mean you will die. (3 people have been rescued, one after 18 hours in the water) 7) Most people who fall overboard are either druink or doing silly things (climbing on the railings or between cabin balconies)"

Interesting...now they can add a 37 year old women on the Carnival Legend.

[bepsf]

Hmmm...

So all you 33 year old men from Virginia sailing on Carnival just better not go drinking on your last night at sea - and don't forget your keycard!!!:cool: