oh no, the flu!

[suse]

I am so afraid of this. My "life partner" is complaining. Uh oh. We have a cruise scheduled but oh boy. Life happens.

[PatsyAnne]

I am so afraid of this. My "life partner" is complaining. Uh oh. We have a cruise scheduled but oh boy. Life happens.
Oh, I hope not. :( Best of luck to you!

[kakalina]

Hopefully it will just turn out to be a regular old cold like ours did. Not fun but better than the flu.

[cb at sea]

How long before the cruise? Perhaps he/she'll be better by then!

[suse]

How long before the cruise? Perhaps he/she'll be better by then!
Thank you. This has been a master plan of planning. Ugh. No, if this goes through the house, and hits Donny, well, back to the hospital. It's ok for me, really, I have had alot of terribly fun times, it's just that I don't want anyone too sick.
Ok, that's all.:)

[Typhoon1]

Got my H1N1 vaccination today. Seasonal shot two months ago.

[sail7seas]

No vaccine available in our community.


Suse, I hope your 'life partner' is fine in time to cruise and Donny doesn't contract it. Keep him in quarantine. :)

[suse]

No vaccine available in our community.


Suse, I hope your 'life partner' is fine in time to cruise and Donny doesn't contract it. Keep him in quarantine. :)



You are so great. It's hard to keep him in quarantine since he has to go to Pt and docs and all that stuff and everyone there is so sick yick and oh no it's just there.
Flu, boo, yeah, no vaccine here except for the children. Little ones. Ok, I get that.

[Nutrioso]

No H1N1 vaccine in our county yet either. And they only sent 100 doses of the seasonal vaccine to our county health department. Not even enough to vaccinate the medical personnel here. Geez! Makes me grumpy, for sure. ----Penny

[Nutrioso]

Just had a thought. Maybe Westerdam will stop at Guantanamo Bay next week on our way to the Southern Carib so we can get our shots! They have it there, I hear. (Just a little tongue in cheek). ----Penny

[bloofer]

Seems as if some Wall Street big-wigs jumped the queue. And here in Canada it was - would you believe it? - hockey players!:mad:

[suse]

Seems to be a cold. But where I live, there are more and more sick with the swine flu.
No, can't get the shot. It's going to prisoners or something like that. Weird.:confused:

[sail7seas]

In MA, prisoners are going to get priority for H1N1 shots. :rolleyes: I don't even want to listen to whatever logic makes that okay.

[0verboard]

In MA, prisoners are going to get priority for H1N1 shots. :rolleyes: I don't even want to listen to whatever logic makes that okay.
In my state, they elected not to do that.

Prisoners are kept in high density. Even in livestock, high density means increased spread of disease. They're all very ripe for a prison-wide outbreak. And the government has direct responsibility for their well-being. So you'd want to give it to prisoners for humanitarian reasons. (Perhaps even legal ones, depending.) Disease (and death) are not part of the punishment (or rehabilitation) imposed on them.

The primary reason why you wouldn't want to give limited vaccinations to prisoners are political campaigns. You know that your opponent will say, "_X_ wanted to give vaccinations to convicted criminals instead of your vulnerable children and grandparents." It is much easier to sell NOT giving vaccine to prisoners.

Your state clearly has more balls and is concerned about doing the right thing versus doing the politically popular thing. You should be proud to live in a state where the politicians have balls.

[momatibm]

Sorry, but as near as I can figure -- the company's(including the wall street firms) and the various other organizations, filed their requests. Then someone ( no clue who) put it into the computer and this is what popped out -- I think the usual algorithms aren't working. I don't really think there is any 'secret planning'.

NOW all that being said, Suse, I can understand your problem with your wonderful son. I too can't get the vaccine. So we will all be here washing our hands, sneezing into our elbows and looking askance at folks that don't scrub coming out of rest rooms. I hope your son manages to avoid all the seasonal problems.

Elaine

[Typhoon1]

In MA, prisoners are going to get priority for H1N1 shots. :rolleyes: I don't even want to listen to whatever logic makes that okay.



The same thing is happening in WI. There is supply available to the public, but is seems to be quite limited.

[suse]

Sorry, but as near as I can figure -- the company's(including the wall street firms) and the various other organizations, filed their requests. Then someone ( no clue who) put it into the computer and this is what popped out -- I think the usual algorithms aren't working. I don't really think there is any 'secret planning'.

NOW all that being said, Suse, I can understand your problem with your wonderful son. I too can't get the vaccine. So we will all be here washing our hands, sneezing into our elbows and looking askance at folks that don't scrub coming out of rest rooms. I hope your son manages to avoid all the seasonal problems.

Elaine
thank you. It's a quagmire.

[OCruisers]

Prisoners are kept in high density. Even in livestock, high density means increased spread of disease. They're all very ripe for a prison-wide outbreak. And the government has direct responsibility for their well-being. So you'd want to give it to prisoners for humanitarian reasons. (Perhaps even legal ones, depending.) Disease (and death) are not part of the punishment (or rehabilitation) imposed on them.

:rolleyes: All or our children/grandchildren are also in high density situations in their schools and college dorms.

[Nefaline]

Yep, basicallly impossible yet to get a vaccine here too. How many total vaccines have gone out already?

[0verboard]

:rolleyes: All or our children/grandchildren are also in high density situations in their schools and college dorms.
Well, I just wanted to illustrate that there is another side to this, and it makes sense. But you have to step back a bit and look at a picture that is larger than your local correctional facility.

And for the purposes of this discussion, nursing homes aren't too different from schools and dorms either. I see where you're coming from. The distinction here is that our government has a direct responsibility (unique from these other situations) for the medical care of inmates.

How we treat our prisoners is a measure of who we are as a people. It is important to maintain American values, to hold ourselves to a higher standard, and to promote our principles world-wide.

It isn't that people who make these decisions are bleeding hearts who care deeply for the care and comfort of prisoners. It is that they love America and American values, and they're willing to make the tough decisions that protect the values that we've fought so many times for.

It is too easy to say "no vaccine for prisoners." It takes some fortitude to stand up for American values when we have to express in this particular way.

[Budget Queen]

I work in a prison. The inmates here are not getting the H1N1 vaccine, but they were first getting the regular flu vaccine.

What people fail to understand, is IF there is an outbreak, does anyone have ANY idea the costs involved in health care for an inmate?? I work in a 112 bed max prison hospital. About 1400 inmates in my jail. There are 3 others within 10 miles. This prison hospital is a hub for several more other prisons. The local Medical center has a secure inmate wing for 7 pt.s


ANY other health care provided outside of these two areas, will REQUIRE a round the clock correction officer. The inmate likely shackled the entire time as well. Add the costs of transportation, overtime, etc etc etc. It is WAY more than the vaccine.

[world~citizen]

:rolleyes: All or our children/grandchildren are also in high density situations in their schools and college dorms.

Also, as I understand it, they would be in a high risk category.

[world~citizen]

Well, I just wanted to illustrate that there is another side to this, and it makes sense. But you have to step back a bit and look at a picture that is larger than your local correctional facility.

And for the purposes of this discussion, nursing homes aren't too different from schools and dorms either. I see where you're coming from. The distinction here is that our government has a direct responsibility (unique from these other situations) for the medical care of inmates.

How we treat our prisoners is a measure of who we are as a people. It is important to maintain American values, to hold ourselves to a higher standard, and to promote our principles world-wide.

It isn't that people who make these decisions are bleeding hearts who care deeply for the care and comfort of prisoners. It is that they love America and American values, and they're willing to make the tough decisions that protect the values that we've fought so many times for.

It is too easy to say "no vaccine for prisoners." It takes some fortitude to stand up for American values when we have to express in this particular way.

A very compelling post.

[suse]

A very compelling post.
Sorry. Long awful day. Funeral for a sweet boy died in Afganistan, one of the marine helicopter pilots, awful, awful, awful. Ok, I'm taking a break here, love you guys. Take care.
Susie

[suse]

love the sweet humor here. Esp. Pipe. See ya later:)