Question: Passenger to Space Ratio on EPIC

[metsjetsfan]

Is there a concern for the low passenger/space ratio for the Epic. Looks like it's a lot lower than the big RCL ships. Not sure how it is calculated so if someone could elaborate and comment on the low ratio on the Epic.

Thanks!

[Druke I]

Passenger Space Ratio (PSR) is normally computed by dividing the Gross Registered Tonnage (GRT) by the double occupancy passenger load.

Don't use Displacement Tonnage or Deadweight Tonnage, and don't include 3rd/4th passengers in cabins - that will throw off the numbers.

[JohnIreland]

It gets more complex on the newer ships.

On the Oasis there is serval floors above the royal promenade/central park which isn't cabin space, but can't be used by passengers too ( because there is nothing there).

On the epic there is space that can only be used by small numbers of passengers (courtyard / living room).

[Boston and beyond cruiser]

From what I've read, the Epic does have a significantly less passenger to space ratio than most other newer ships.

An important comparison is that the Epic is 153,000 tons and carries 4,200 passengers, while the Oasis is 220,000 tons with 5,400 passengers - 1,200 more passengers on the Oasis, but it is almost SEVENTY THOUSAND TONS bigger. Even considering the "lost" space of the promenade, that is pretty significant.

[sjbdtz]

From what I've read, the Epic does have a significantly less passenger to space ratio than most other newer ships.

An important comparison is that the Epic is 153,000 tons and carries 4,200 passengers, while the Oasis is 220,000 tons with 5,400 passengers - 1,200 more passengers on the Oasis, but it is almost SEVENTY THOUSAND TONS bigger. Even considering the "lost" space of the promenade, that is pretty significant.

Ok..I'll bite..... HOW SIGNIFICANT IS it?

Here's an interesting article about the subject: http://malcolmoliver.wordpress.com/2009/05/27/will-norwegian-epic-be-a-success/

[momofsamandeden]

I look at it this way, there are the balcony staterooms that look out to sea on Epic that are intriguing. I am betting a lot of people will sail her for the entertainment and that room more than the public areas throughout the days. Personally I would rather hang out quietly on my cool balcony than on a deck overfilled with bodies. The ticket idea for shows is also interesting. I think the Epic will end up being the ship to relax on your balcony and party all night all around the ship.

[metsjetsfan]

Interesting observations, looks like the Epic will be a very crowded ship unless they can't fill it which would also be bad. Poor weather sounds like a major issue and it seems like RCL might be better prepared for this. Still like the Epic tho.

[sverigecruiser]

Interesting observations, looks like the Epic will be a very crowded ship unless they can't fill it which would also be bad. Poor weather sounds like a major issue and it seems like RCL might be better prepared for this. Still like the Epic tho.

Oasis has a giant hole in the back, maybe not so good in bad weather!

[mikedw]

On the Oasis you have the Promenade and Central Park which are over 5 decks high running basically through the middle of the entire ship. That's where your extra space is, unfortunately it's not usable. Nice to look up at but that's about it.

[livetheatre]

And I didn't think that Algebra would be usable in the real world! This thread makes my head hurt!

[metsjetsfan]

really have to appreciate disney, i bet their cabins are usually 3+ people and they are able to handle pretty well with lines and waits, or so i'm told.

[insidecabin]

Part of the problem is that you are measuring a volume for the complete ship including theatre, dining rooms, stores etc. A lot of the passenger public spaces have very low utilisation throughout the day.

Cabin sizes also make a big difference to the total left as public space NCL tends to have smaller cabins.

One thing the Epic is doing is trying to get higher utilisation of the various locations with day and night themes.

[akupupule]

You can ballpark it with grt /#passengers but that only gives a rough starting point. Epic comes in around 36 and Freedom of the Seas around 42+ but how is Epic going to flow in real life? What are the choke points going to be? We'll find out in afew months....