Disembark or debark????

[divinggirl]

I have noticed that some people say "debark" (or debarkation) and some say "disembark" (or disembarkation). Is one correct (or more correct) than the other, or are they interchangable (like flammable and inflammable :p )??

Just wondering. I personally say "disembark".

Nikki

[Krazy Kruizers]

I prefer writing and saying "disembarkation". Sounds more grammatically correct to me. JMHO

[Orcrone]

I have noticed that some people say "debark" (or debarkation) and some say "disembark" (or disembarkation). Is one correct (or more correct) than the other, or are they interchangable (like flammable and inflammable :p )??

Just wondering. I personally say "disembark".

NikkiNot sure if one is more correct than the other, but 'debark' sounds like a procedure a tree surgeon would perform.:D

[user8]

Acccording to my copy of Webster's New world dictionary, both are correct and mean the very same thing. It doesn't make any difference which you choose to use.

[jhannah]

Are some folks "out of their tree?" I'm with Orcrone on this one. Debark just doesn't have the right "ring" to it.You mount a horse ... then you dismount. Never heard 'demount' a steed. So whatever the "roots" of the other word, I'll keep it in my "trunk" and vote for disembark. Please don't consider me a "sap" for this one! :D

[DFD1]

I think it is disembark, but I have fallen into the use of debark around here. I saw it someplace on here and just picked it up. Now that you all focus on it, sounds pretty dumb, doesn't it, especially if there are no trees around? LOL

[ekerr19]

I like disembark - in fact I can't stand debark - it sounds like something you'd try doing to your dog!

[DoctorFeelgood]

Seems like I've heard both used, and neither seems incorrect to the ear.

I like "debark" because it seems more parsimonious. "Dis-em-bark" to me seems unnecessarily complicated. Kind of like "magic" and "magical"... I mean no one ever says "scientifical".

.... hmm... you do, however, say "disembowel"....


makes you think, don't it?

[jhannah]

I mean no one ever says "scientifical".Well, some people do! But scientific is an adjective. Disembark is a verb. OMG ... where is this thread going??? ;)

[LAFFNVEGAS]

Are some folks "out of their tree?" I'm with Orcrone on this one. Debark just doesn't have the right "ring" to it.You mount a horse ... then you dismount. Never heard 'demount' a steed. So whatever the "roots" of the other word, I'll keep it in my "trunk" and vote for disembark. Please don't consider me a "sap" for this one! :D
Hi Jim, I like your new Avatar Picture.:)

[ekerr19]

Hi Jim, I like your new Avatar Picture.:)

Me too! :)

[dakrewser]

"debark" is the older form (it comes from the french débarquer). So traditionally one would embark on a ship, then debark when reaching the destination. Somewhere along the line someone saw that embark meant get on, so created "disembark" as it's opposite. Both appear acceptible these days, but "debark" has the better pedigree!


:)

[ekerr19]

Both appear acceptible these days, but "debark" has the better pedigree!
:)

Gee, I wonder why? Pedigree, dog, bark - lol!

[dakrewser]

Gee, I wonder why? Pedigree, dog, bark - lol!
I haven't had enough coffee - I missed thast completely!

:) -dave

[LAFFNVEGAS]

Me too! :)
Laura, I like your new Avatar Picture also:)


And to answer on this thread, I agree with Disembark. It just sounds proper. Or should it be a drum roll, then Ta Daaaa, Deeee bark:D

[ekerr19]

Laura, I like your new Avatar Picture also:)


And to answer on this thread, I agree with Disembark. It just sounds proper. Or should it be a drum roll, then Ta Daaaa, Deeee bark:D

Thanks Lisa! Can you tell we are HMC??? It's one of my favorite places - so I thought, why not have a reminder of it? :)

[RuthC]

When I read "debark" I start to feel pain---as if I'm being skinned alive :eek: . (Maybe I'm sympathizing with the tree? :confused: )

I'll go with "disembark".

[lipoppop]

Either one means get off the ship which is not a happy activity.
:cool:

[Bill S]

I apologize in advance for changing the tenor of this thread, but with all the avatar comments, I've just got to ask: "how do you all do it"?

I have read the CC info, and while it states what the maximum picture size is in pixels, how do you get the picture that small? Do you just keep cropping the photo? The smallest photo I can get on my software is 640 x 480. I know this is a "user' issue, but just how does one create an avatar? BTW, by now all readers should understand by now that any answer must be in words of one or two syllables for me to understand them! I am still graphically challenged! Thanks for you help . . . . . and understanding. :o :o

[jhannah]

I used Photoshop 7.0 that lets you change the image size at will. Probably other photo programs will do that, too. Check under the 'image' menu.

[dakrewser]

I apologize in advance for changing the tenor of this thread, but with all the avatar comments, I've just got to ask: "how do you all do it"?

I have read the CC info, and while it states what the maximum picture size is in pixels, how do you get the picture that small? Do you just keep cropping the photo? The smallest photo I can get on my software is 640 x 480. I know this is a "user' issue, but just how does one create an avatar? BTW, by now all readers should understand by now that any answer must be in words of one or two syllables for me to understand them! I am still graphically challenged! Thanks for you help . . . . . and understanding. :o :o
If you are using Windows, load your picture into the Paint application. Click the word "Image" in the top menu. Choose "Stretch/Skew". Under Stretch, change the percentages from 100% to 15%. Save the result. Voila!

[Bill S]

Dave: thanks! I think I understand your guidance and will try that soon!

Jim: thanks, too for your suggestion. I have about 3 photo programs but not Photoshop! It looks like you are having a slow day! (me too!):)

[Aussie Gal]

Being of English heritage the Concise Oxford Dictionary is the one used by all Australians in business and in schools. Accordingly debark means to remove bark from a tree but disembarkation means to put or go ashore from a ship.

Until I started to reading the C.C. Board I had never heard the word debark to mean leaving a ship.

Jennie

[ekerr19]

I apologize in advance for changing the tenor of this thread, but with all the avatar comments, I've just got to ask: "how do you all do it"?

I have read the CC info, and while it states what the maximum picture size is in pixels, how do you get the picture that small? Do you just keep cropping the photo? The smallest photo I can get on my software is 640 x 480. I know this is a "user' issue, but just how does one create an avatar? BTW, by now all readers should understand by now that any answer must be in words of one or two syllables for me to understand them! I am still graphically challenged! Thanks for you help . . . . . and understanding. :o :o

Bill-

I resize my photos using HP Photo Gallery Manager (which came with my printer/scanner/fax). I select the scanned photo and click edit and then re-size. I choose "custom resize" and I shrink it down to 80x80, which usually works. This one came out really small, so I may go back and crop it to a smaller field then do the custom resize... I hope this helps. Let me know if you have other questions - the first time I tried it, I wanted to pull my hair out!

[LAFFNVEGAS]

Laura, the problem if you resize it will take out the Hal Moon Cay sign:(

Don't feel bad I always have problems getting them sized right. I am not sure but it seems ever since I started using a camera with more pixels it is harder to resize and they do not come out as well. I wish I could get mine to come out as good as Revneal's, Daves, and now Jim's:o

[Bill S]

Laura: thanks for your tip as well-I will have to check out my HP scanner/printer software-never thought of that! :eek:

Lisa: aren't you going to share your avatar tips with us??? Slow day, too? :)

[ekerr19]

Laura: thanks for your tip as well-I will have to check out my HP scanner/printer software-never thought of that! :eek:

Lisa: aren't you going to share your avatar tips with us??? Slow day, too? :)

Bill - let us know. It may seem hard the first time, but once you get the hang of it - it's pretty easy. :)

[DFD1]

Thanks, Jennie: Besides that, it sounds better......PS I surely do like the beautiful ship picture in your signature. Did you take the photograph yourself?

[Aussie Gal]

DFD1,

Thanks for the compliment. Yes I did take that photo in October. It is the Prinsendam and we had just left her after our trip to the Black Sea. We were staying on in Venice for a couple of days and we were so fortunate as we had been upgraded to a lagoon view room at our hotel. The Prinsendam sailed right past our room a day or so later on her way to Athens. You can see in the middle of the photo the spire of one of the churches across the lagoon.

Jennie

[obriendan]

Many years ago I remember my folks has a basenji (sp?) as a pet and it made no noise at all. So I suppose somewhaere along the evolutionary path this dog had been debarked!

[HeatherInFlorida]

Firstly, thank you everyone for the new avatar hints! I've been sizing mine in Microsoft PictureIt! but have a problem sometimes...80 x 80 doesn't always work if the pic is offsize. And I've not used a scanned picture.

And I do love everyone's new avatars!!! Lisa's is great, Jim's is very dapper and Laura's is so happy.

Now ... as to disembark vs. debark. No matter what's right or acceptable I shall continue with "disembark". We all know that when you take the bark off a tree, it dies.

So I rest my case. Not gonna do that to me:( . Besides, debarks always worse than debite:D .

[Krazy Kruizers]

"debark"

So the dog is "de barking" and must be taken out to Orcrone's trees so that whatever he must do might help the trees to lose their bark?

Sorry couldn't resist.

[Krazy Kruizers]

Okay

So some how this thread also got onto avatars. Do all of you see them when you click onto the various threads? I don't see any avatars unless I click onto a person's "name". Why do all of you feel it is so important to have avatars?

[bepsf]

OK - back to the language lesson:

***Taps ruler on desk***

When on Cunard, one disembarks
When on French ships, we debark
and on Holland America - we ontschepen
As in: "Ontschtepen zee Damship"
;)

[dakrewser]

I wish I could get mine to come out as good as Revneal's, Daves, and now Jim's:oHere ya go - I've edited your pic so it looks better!

:rolleyes:

[dakrewser]

I don't see any avatars unless I click onto a person's "name". Why do all of you feel it is so important to have avatars?

Go to User CP, click on "Edit Options", scroll down to "THread Display Options" and check that you have "Show Avatars" checked.....

-dave

[CaptData]

They are = They're. Debark= disembark. I like disembarkation with embarkation.

[RaffinOrganGrinders]

Debark is was De Dog Does. De Tourist stop to laugh.

George :p

[Bill S]

I like "disembark" because we do not "bark" on to a ship. But hey, some say 'potato' and others say 'potatto'. Different strokes!

[HeatherInFlorida]

KK, I like avatars because I like to look people in the eye when I talk to them:) . The avatars show up on every post on mine.

I've spent the last hour trying to change my avatar pic and I can't. I did Dave's "Paint" thing and it came out TINY!!!

Lisa, look what Dave did to your husband. His bark is definitely worse than his bite.

For whom doth the dog dole, it doles for de dog.

[cactuslady]

Oh dear. Debark, disembark. Here I go into a raft of lawyer jokes . . .

If lawyers can be disbarred, can mathematicians be disintegrated?
Can committees be dismembered?
Can casino dealers be discarded?
Can knife sharpeners be distempered?
Can administrative assistants be defiled?
Can Hells' Angels be recycled?

Whew, that's more than enough for now. :p

[ekerr19]

Besides, debarks always worse than debite:D .
OMG, LOL! Thanks Heather! I needed that this morning! Good luck with your avatar - I like seeing them too! It helps put names to faces. :)

[localady]

Disembark vs. debark-

I prefer to stay on the "Dam" Ship!!!;)

[RevNeal]

My word ... a thread after my own heart -- languages -- and I missed most of it!!!!!! O'Dam!!!!

I prefer to embark. I do not like disembarking unless it's just for the day, and I'll be boarding again later that same day.

Which brings up another turn-of-phrase.

Some times Americans will say "board," but we never say "deboard" or "disboard." I wonder why?

As for me and my house, I prefer disembark over debark because "to debark" sounds like something I would do to my puppydog to make her stop barking. That, or to a tree. :) But, we've already covered both alternatives.
:eek:

[jhannah]

Some times Americans will say "board," but we never say "deboard" or "disboard." I wonder why?Probably because in the olden days people walked across a board to get onto the ship. Getting off was simply "getting off" unless you were sent packing early and then you walked the plank which differentiated from the board that got you on. Now, going AWOL (so to speak) is referred to as going overboard. I guess that means you didn't use the board to get off the ship. Maybe it started when a fine lady, with her gazillion petticoats, was alighting the ship and couldn't see the board and mis-stepped, thus going over the board and into the water. H-m-m-m. (No, I have no historical reference here ... it's just my Wednesday musing!)

[dakrewser]

Just noticed the following over on the Celebrity web site:

Debarkation
The cruise staff will give you instructions about disembarkation procedures


:) -dave

[Krazy Kruizers]

dakrewser

Thanks for the advice. Have made all changes under options.

Now I can see everything quite well. I quicked for everything to appear.

[Cruising Jake]

LOL. What a great laugh I have had as I sit here with snowy ground outside and about 8" on the way tonight.

[dakrewser]

dakrewser

Thanks for the advice. Have made all changes under options.

Now I can see everything quite well. I quicked for everything to appear.
Glad I could help!

[cactuslady]

Some times Americans will say "board," but we never say "deboard" or "disboard." I wonder why?


Maybe because "board" comes from a sturdy Old English/Germanic/barbarian word, to which the fancy Latin prefixes were never attached, apparently preferring to associate only with more civilized speech forms deriving themselves from Latin or Greek. Or maybe not, since this explanation doesn't always hold true.

One can board a train or stagecoach, and alight from the same (whether or not to do so is a delight).
One can mount a horse and either dismount or alight from it.
One can either mount or ascend the stairs, but must descend them only.
Or one can mount an expedition or a campaign, but must return in triumph, come crawling back, or concede. (And once a hat is thrown into the ring, how does it ever get out?)

Yet it's the English speakers who complain about how hard it is to learn another language. :rolleyes:

[jhannah]

The ghost of sophomore lit will haunt me tonight! :eek: This makes me recall the prologue to Chaucer's Canterbury Tales that I had to memorize in Old English. Ow! My head hurts!

[cactuslady]

The ghost of sophomore lit will haunt me tonight! :eek: This makes me recall the prologue to Chaucer's Canterbury Tales that I had to memorize in Old English. Ow! My head hurts!
Ow, ow, ow! I'm sure you memorized it in the original Middle English rather than translating it into Old English. (Pssst, if you want a refresher course, I have the Middle English original in my bookcase at home.) Or maybe it was Beowulf that you memorized in Old English:

Hwæt! We Gardena in geardagum,
þeodcyninga, þrym gefrunon,
hu ða æþelingas ellen fremedon.

. . and so forth. Sound familiar? ;)

[RevNeal]

It's snowing in Seagoville Texas.
I would love to be embarking on a damship -- any damship -- right about now ... and not give any consideration to disembarking until, oh, time to board another damship.

A month and a week (or so) to the O'dam.
Can I stand the wait?

[ekerr19]

It's snowing in Seagoville Texas.
I would love to be embarking on a damship -- any damship -- right about now ... and not give any consideration to disembarking until, oh, time to board another damship.

A month and a week (or so) to the O'dam.
Can I stand the wait?
It is snowing here in Arvada, Colorado too! The high tomorrow is supposed to be 7 degrees... and no I did not forget a numeral.... brrrr :eek:

I'd give ANYTHING to EMBARK on any dam ship this week!

[HeatherInFlorida]

Well, it's perfectly delightful here. 6:39 in the evening and I have all my doors and windows open. Hmmmmm.........:D

[jhannah]

Hwæt! We Gardena in geardagum,
þeodcyninga, þrym gefrunon,
hu ða æþelingas ellen fremedon.

. . and so forth. Sound familiar? ;)Nope! That's not it.
As for the weather, it's cool here in Las Vegas ... but dry.

[dakrewser]

It's snowing in Seagoville Texas.
I would love to be embarking on a damship -- any damship -- right about now ... and not give any consideration to disembarking until, oh, time to board another damship.

A month and a week (or so) to the O'dam.
Can I stand the wait?
Only a month for me, but I'll try and keep it in one piece for you.... :)

We're expecting mid-60's and sunny tomorrow here in the Valley of Heart's Delight...

[~Nereus~]

Webster's 1913 Dictionary

Definition:

\De"bark"\, v. t. & i. [imp. & p. p. {Debarked}; p. pr. &
vb. n. {Debarking}.] [F. d['e]barquer; pref. d['e]- (L. dis-)
+ barque. See {Bark} the vessel, and cf. {Disbark}.]
To go ashore from a ship or boat; to disembark; to put
ashore.