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Tattoo boy
May 22nd, 2010, 02:41 PM
Hi all
I just found out that ATN went on strike as of today. The news comes
from Tahti traveler.check that web site .

AnglerGirl
May 22nd, 2010, 09:56 PM
Hi Tattoo! Thanks for this information. Let's hope for the best and keep watching. ATN's site is updating - they cancelled a flight yesterday and another today but placed pax on other flights, which is good news.
http://www.airtahitinui-usa.com/company/flight-disruption.asp

Tattoo boy
May 22nd, 2010, 11:27 PM
We can only hope that it will be over by the time we go on the
26th
The last time we got stuck the pickets blocked the bridges.
It lasted a day.
Soooooo we will keep our fingers crossed.

MtnDriver
May 22nd, 2010, 11:51 PM
Before our LAST (2008) PG sailing there was a short strike. If they had only done this while we were in FP and not LA!

"Hello Dad? Can you keep the kids a few more days? We're STUCK in Tahiti":D

MtnDriver
May 23rd, 2010, 12:05 AM
I have been googling for info on the strike.

One web site claims pilots are unhappy that not enough pilots have been hired for summer. Another states that they are unhappy because TOO MANY have been hired.:confused:

MtnDriver
May 23rd, 2010, 05:43 PM
The ATN Flight Disruption Info page (http://www.airtahitinui-usa.com/company/flight-disruption.asp) for today:

"All flights operating as scheduled."

AnglerGirl
May 24th, 2010, 01:17 PM
All flights operating as scheduled today (so far) as well.

ATN was the main sponsor of a pretty large stand up paddleboarding competition in FP this weekend. Strategic timing!

mariah27
June 11th, 2010, 10:16 AM
ATN Striking with some flights cancelled. Oh heck no...... Been on hold with atn for 30 minutes. Web site informative but nothing posted from yesterday.... oh hell

mariah

Just talked to an agent. Cancelled today, hope to have more info later this afternoon....

AnglerGirl
June 11th, 2010, 06:05 PM
I feel terrible for Mariah. I wonder if she was able to make other arrangements to get out to the ship. This appears to be a general strike affecting the airport. Yikes. FYI Spirit Airlines is also set to strike at 12:01 AM tomorrow. Tis the season?

UPDATE #3
June 11, 2010
11:45AM

Dear Sir/Madam

Air Tahiti Nui regrets to announce that there will not be a flight today from Los Angeles to Tahiti. We are not able to provide an update as to when the next flight will depart. The reason for this is that the civic servant workers at the airport in Tahiti remain on strike and we have no indication from them as to when they will return to work. Accordingly, we cannot advise of when our next flight may depart. For passengers originating from Los Angeles to Paris, this aircraft is stranded on the ground in Tahiti. Accordingly, until the strike is lifted, we are not able to advise our next flight to CDG. Please do not proceed to the airport counter. We apologize for this situation, which is as frustrating for us as it is to you. As Tahiti is 3 hours behind the Los Angeles time zone, there is a remote possibility that the strike could be settled in the afternoon in Tahiti, which would be early evening tonight in Los Angeles. Accordingly, we ask that you continue to monitor our website or contact our reservations office from 4:00PM onwards. If we are not able to have service departing this evening, we hope the strike will be lifted tomorrow and we hope that we can depart by mid day tomorrow. Again, we apologize for this inconvenience and thank you for your understanding. Air Tahiti Nui - North America

Also, from Radio NZ....
Posted at 19:19 on 11 June, 2010 UTC
One international flight to French Polynesia has been cancelled after a call for a general strike led to some disruptions in Tahiti. Domestic flights in and out of Tahiti have operated as planned but a flight by Air Calin has been cancelled amid concern that the strike will leave the airport short of the required number of firefighters. An Air Tahiti Nui flight from Paris due tonight is blocked in Los Angeles. The strike, which started in the early hours, followed unsuccessful talks with the government and the French high commission over union demands to relaunch the economy, improving employment and reforming social security provisions.
The action has paralysed the Papeete port, stopping the Moorea ferry but schools managed to open for the national French school exams. There are reports of sit-ins at some public buildings, involving a cross-section of employees. Unsuccessful talks were held yesterday in a bid to find an agreement and a further meeting between the collective of 11 unions and the government is due to be held later today. News Content © Radio New Zealand International PO Box 123, Wellington, New Zealand

mariah27
June 11th, 2010, 06:55 PM
Well I'm just heartbroken. SO far, one flight is definetely cancelled and mine is not cancelled yet. They just cancelled both today but said check back after 6 or so. Paul Gaugain is simply saying it is out of their hands (I'm sure it is) and haven't offered any alterntives....

Shipped my kid to CA, took off work and am packed.... No one joined me on roll call so hopefully I am one of the few.... :(. thanks for your positive thoughts..

mariah

MY EARLIER POST misspoke...it isn't the airlines. thanks for the intel angler...

MtnDriver
June 11th, 2010, 11:17 PM
Here is an updated situation on Air Tahiti Nui’s flights:


PPT-LAX - Friday June 11:
TN02 & TN08 – CANCELLED

LAX-PPT - Saturday June 12:
TN07 - CANCELLED
TN01 - CANCELLED



There is a possibility that Air Tahiti Nui will be able to operate a flight at approximately 12:55pm on Saturday, June 12th LAX-PPT. We hope to have an update at about 9:00AM PDT, Saturday morning. Please monitor this website or call our reservations at 1-877-824-4846.
LAX - CDG - Saturday, June 12th

TN07 - 12:30 PM departure – CANCELLED


For Paris bound passengers, please do not come to the airport. At such time that the CDG flights resume, ATN will contact you with updated flight information.






Air Tahiti Nui apologizes for these delays, which is beyond the airlines control due to the civic servant strike in Tahiti.


Air Tahiti Nui - North America

bandt
June 12th, 2010, 08:21 AM
Our hearts go out to you Mariah.

We were on tenterhooks till the last minute before our cruise because of the volcanic eruption but were lucky.

Hope you find an alternative solution.

Sincerely

Brian & Tony

MtnDriver
June 12th, 2010, 01:15 PM
It looks like the major problem is that there are not sufficient Firefighters at the PPT airport to allow planes to takeoff and land.

See: http://qa.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/4836586/

mariah27
June 14th, 2010, 12:34 AM
Hi Guys!

Just back in Phoenix from two days of utter heck trying to figure out what to do!! PG said fly from phx to la in case they would get one flight out at 1 pm. We did, got to the airport and got in line..many people showing up at the airline were shocked and amazed when they walked up and saw that all flights were cancelled. Some TN personnel told us that EVEN IF there was a 1 pm flight, people from the four flights cancelled before us would be sent out and it was UNLIKELY we would get out 24-48 hours after the strike was lifted. Later other TN personnel said we should wait a few hours and see if the strike was resolved. They handed out sheets of paper saying they weren't liable, they weren't accomodating hotel rooms, we should go back to our hotels and watch the web site. Then the web site said MAYBE at 1145 pm flight. ... PG told us they would put us up at hotel room and then said they wouldn't. THey would NOT agree to just rebook us at a later trip this summer. They said if the flight left at midnight, they would figure out a way to get us out to the boat even if we missed a day or two (ignoring the fact that TN people said they'd send out the prior cancelled flight people before us.

PG people at the airport were nice but just as clueless and at TN's mercy. The TN people actually became rude.... PG people said they'd call us back and didn't. PG emergency line said they were clueless. MY TA was nowhere to be found. I just think PG should have had a plan and conveyed it. SOme said the PG ship actually couldn't even dock and was hanging out in Moorea or somewhere waiting for the port to open.

That's my tale of woe for my first cruise ever, the trip of a lifetime... not what I had been dreaming of for 8 months....

mariah

south seas sue
June 14th, 2010, 01:53 AM
Mariah, I am so sorry for your trouble! What a nightmare! The most difficult thing seems to be ATN and PG are (as you so eloquently said) CLUELESS!!!!! Its been a few days now, they should have been able to get creative minds together to deal with this situation! NOT give contradictory info, and it sounds like both corporate entities are trying to make sure they do as little as possible to accommodate you.

I can't believe PG said they would not allow you to rebook!!!!!!!!

I am very PO'd at your treatment - particularly at PG! My time at the ticket counter comes two weeks from yesterday - the 26th - and even if the strike is settled and the airport is back to normal, hearing your story is making me very, very mad at these corporations. What happened to customer service????? Especially in these trying circumstances???

Let us know if there is any positive end to this story......

Sending good thoughts your way

:confused:

potterjunk
June 14th, 2010, 08:45 AM
I'm scheduled to go on the June 19th sailing:( Not sure what is going to happen. I'm going to call PG today and see what my options are. I would love to hear updates from the June 12th sailing to see what PG has communicated with them. So sad......this is our 10 year anniversary trip that we have been planning (in our mind) for 10 years!:(

pacheco18
June 14th, 2010, 10:25 AM
Are those who booked air through PG getting a different result? I believe Air France (?) flies to FP and there are probably other indirect routes to get there. Isn't PG obligated to get you to the ship (if they can) if flights they booked for you are cancelled?

mariah27
June 14th, 2010, 12:03 PM
We did book our airfare through PG! The entire airport was shut down due to the firefighter's strike so NO airline (Hawaiian flies there) could get in or OUT. I can't feel too sorry for those souls stuck on the boat for an extra two or three days but I know people have personal circumstances that may cause that to be a hardship.

We had honeymooner's at the airport with us and one couple, it was their 40th wedding anniversary..another had flown out from New Jersey....No one had called to tell them of the strike. I wouldn't have known except for this board. The PG reps at the airport couldn't tell us whether or not PG would rebook us or not, whether they would pay for the room we had to get to wait until the next day... We were told that if a flight went out the next morning and they could get us to the ship for a shorter cruise they would consider that a done deal.

I just wanted PG to communicate with ATN, recognize that we wouldn't get out for AT LEAST 24-48 hours and tell us what our options were, even if we didn't like it. A) you can rebook with no penalties B) you can take a shorter cruise if the strike is lifted C) tough toenails, this is what trip insurance covers or ANYTHING>>>>>

Now they are offering to rebook without penalties (big woop) but it doesn't cover the airfare we incurred to get to LA, my daughter's airfare to stay with family this week, hotel and meal stayover in LA... time off work.... etc.

Sorry to whine so much. I notice ATN has not cancelled todays flights yet. I just hope and pray all of this is a bad dream for those of you on June 19 or 26......

mariah

Maddle
June 14th, 2010, 12:43 PM
Mariah - what a mess! So sorry for your disappointment.

We are scheduled to depart on June 19th - and I just learned of this strike this morning. Yikes. Thank you for post your experiences - I hope that things do work out for you in some fashion. My husband's response was - doesn't it just figure, the deal of a lifetime, and foiled by a stike.

As for myself, forewarned is forearmed for those of us on the next week's cruise. At least we will know what to look out for. Imagine arriving in LAX and having such a surprise.

What happened to the closing June 5th cruisers lately?

Maddle

bandt
June 14th, 2010, 01:31 PM
The strike that is afflicting French Polynesia is a General Strike and not one specific to ATN. Most civil servants and Public Administrations are on strike. Some firemen at the airport refuse to respond to requisition orders which means that International Air Traffic (all airlines, not only ATN) is suspended. Apparently about 3500 travellers are now stranded.

http://en.tahitipresse.pf/2010/06/general-strike-still-on-negotiations-on-hold/ (http://www.latribune.fr/entreprises/services/transport-logistique/20100613trib000519256/la-greve-a-tahiti-bloque-3.500-voyageurs-aeriens-.html#xtor=EPR-2-)

and (in French) :

http://www.latribune.fr/entreprises/services/transport-logistique/20100613trib000519256/la-greve-a-tahiti-bloque-3.500-voyageurs-aeriens-.html

Hope that the problem is resolved soon and that you can all cruise serenely.

B & T

AnglerGirl
June 14th, 2010, 01:49 PM
I read early this morning that the President is bringing in government employess to fill in the firefighters roles so the airport can reopen?

MtnDriver
June 14th, 2010, 03:52 PM
I read early this morning that the President is bringing in government employess to fill in the firefighters roles so the airport can reopen?

That's also my understanding, but it seems that they have a bunch of stranded pax to deliver first.

Wendy The Wanderer
June 14th, 2010, 04:36 PM
This is all so sad, and I'm sorry for all those who are missing their long hoped-for dream vacations. It's too bad that PG Cruises is not stepping up to the plate better, but I'm not surprised. For several reasons:

- they are a new enterprise and struggling with the economic downturn that has decimated tourism in FP, so they will hesitate to dispense largesse

- FP is very isolated, so there's not much that the cruiseline or airline for that matter could do to work around the situation

- the tourist industry in FP in general is badly run; they don't really know their you-know-what from a hole in the ground, and it sounds like PG Cruises is inheriting some of that dysfunction

Let's hope this gets resolved and that you all will end up having your dream vacations, sooner or later.

AnglerGirl
June 14th, 2010, 04:58 PM
I think it's highly likely that any strike in FP is disorganized and poorly planed . The havoc must be maddening for visitors, vendors and the workers. I wonder how many people got aboard Saturday. If the airport closed, then even people on a pre cruise stay on BB for example wouldn't have made it to Papeete, right? Oh, how maddening. All the airlines, hotels and ships should have a statement by now. They can't fix the problem, but it sure would be helpful to communicate with customers with a daily status, update or plan. Bailey owns lots of hotels and is a fixture in Tahitian biz. He should be leading the effort to communicate IMO. Sorry for any typos.

UKBayern
June 14th, 2010, 05:21 PM
I actually happen to be in regular contact with one of the senior pilots at Air Tahiti Nui, and what I understand is that ATN pilots are so frustrated by all of this. They would love to fly, and the smaller planes between the islands can fly, but the larger intercontinental ones are not allowed to land due to not enough firefighters being on call because of the strike. What he is writing on his weblog is that it is not just ATN, also all flights from Air New Zealand, Air France, etc are all cancelled too.

bandt
June 14th, 2010, 05:57 PM
I've just been chatting with a crewmember friend from Air France. Tonight's (Monday 14th) LAX PPT is scheduled to operate. This depends on minimum service being put in place at PPT for flights between 19H and 07H local time.

Taddleson
June 14th, 2010, 06:36 PM
The following was recently posted on the Radio New Zealand International website

http://www.rnzi.com/pages/news.php?op=read&id=54160

The French high commissioner in French Polynesia has intervened in a protracted general strike and ordered firefighters to return to work at Tahiti’s airport.
In a statement, Adolphe Colrat says the strike stopping all international flights since last Thursday is an excessive action and poses a risk to public safety.
A handful of firefighters at the airport has been on strike as part of broader action to protest against the economic hardship.
If the firefighters return to work, flights could resume by today.
News Content © Radio New Zealand International
PO Box 123, Wellington, New Zealand

Maddle
June 14th, 2010, 06:37 PM
From the ATN website: (June 14th - Monday)

-----------------------------
There is a remote possibility that there will be a flight later tonight, Monday, June 14th. However if such a flight occurs, seats will be allocated to those who have been delayed since Thursday and friday, June 10 and 11th.

For passengers booked today and tomorrow, we believe the earliest departure date would be Wednesday, June 16th.

-----------------------------

If I am reading their schedule correctly, the late flight tonight would be an addition, and it makes sense to send those people first - BUT if they can fly in and out, why can't they accomodate the Tuesday passengers? Now this has really got to be frustrating for people who have tickets for Monday and Tuesday - will they keep bumping people back? or are they counting on people like Mariah that have already gone home to Phoenix so they won't be going? - and if Monday and Tuesday people can't go until Wednesday, what happens to the Wednesday people? Am I right in my understanding that ATN is a small airline with a limited number of aircraft?

Maddle

pacheco18
June 14th, 2010, 07:09 PM
Here is a news report dated tomorrow

http://www.aviationrecord.com/Cargo/tabid/68/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/2668/Air-Tahiti-Nui-cancels-all-flights.aspx

Seems nothing can possibly go until the 17th at the earliest.

UKBayern
June 14th, 2010, 07:54 PM
Am I right in my understanding that ATN is a small airline with a limited number of aircraft?


Yes, it is. It has 5 Airbus A340 aircraft. But keep in mind Tahiti is tiny, with only 178.000 Tahitians.

Taddleson
June 14th, 2010, 08:31 PM
Tahiti Strike Update
Monday, 6/14/2010, 10:30AM Hawaii Time

The strike in Tahiti appears to be over, with Papeete’s airport opening shortly to international flights.

We are rescheduling our cancelled Friday (June 11) flight to Tuesday, June 15 at the same times.

Our rescheduled flight times are below.

HA1481 Honolulu-Papeete June 15 Departs 4:05pm Arrives 9:55pm
HA1482 Papeete-Honolulu June 15 Departs 11:45pm Arrives 5:30am +1

If you were booked on Friday’s flight, you may call in to our reservations department to reconfirm or you may simply show up at the airport on Tuesday for normal check-in.

While we are confident that the strike is over, please check back to this web page for any changes prior to leaving for the airport.

Maddle
June 14th, 2010, 08:55 PM
Well - something is happening over at ATN also, because the disruption update says, check back after 6 pm PST - which is coming right up.

Maddle

mariah27
June 15th, 2010, 12:47 PM
Looks like it is lifted although the strike isn't technically resolved. TN is starting to work through the backlog of passengers that haven't gone. AM SOO HAPPY for the travellers on the 19!!!!!!!

mariah

mustangmonie
June 15th, 2010, 12:48 PM
Greetings all. It sounds like things are looking up at last. I have been devouring every word each of you has posted since Thursday as we are to be on the 6/26 cruise celebrating our 25th anniversary. I have found the quickest & most informative news has been through searching "tahiti strike" and clicking on any info from New Zealand. They seem to ge the scoop first. This morning they were reporting that there would be 1 fight each to Japan and LA and 2 flights to France. They also reported that there would be extra flight times added to catch up the back log of stranded travelers. That seems to bode well for people booked for the June 19th sail date (good luck Potter Junk and Maddle).

If we are lucky enough to have everything work out for the 26th cruise, I'd like to buy Mtn Driver and South Seas Sue a drink to toast our good fortune!

MtnDriver
June 15th, 2010, 01:31 PM
If we are lucky enough to have everything work out for the 26th cruise, I'd like to buy Mtn Driver and South Seas Sue a drink to toast our good fortune!

You buy mine and Sue's and I'll buy for TattooBoy and AnglerGirl. (pretty generous considering drinks are included, huh?) :D

I think what we REALLY need to do is send one FedEx to Mariah!

Tattoo boy
June 15th, 2010, 03:11 PM
Aw hell, drinks for everybody (the 27th on deck 8) :D

MtnDriver
June 15th, 2010, 06:02 PM
UPDATE #14
Tuesday June 15, 2010
2:25PM PST

Air Tahiti Nui is pleased to announce the following departures from Los Angeles to Papeete for Tuesday June 15. Please continue to monitor this site for further updates.

Tuesday June 15:

TN401Depart: LAX 02:00PM PST
Arrive: PPT 07:20PM local time
This flight is available for the following displaced Passengers: However other passengers from June 14 & 15 who proceed to the airport may be boarded based on a space available situation. Chances are good for standby clearance.

TN07 LAX-PPT from 11 June – Coach Passengers
TN01 LAX-PPT from 12 June
TN07 LAX-PPT from 12 June

TN411 Depart: LAX 11:30PM PST
Arrive: PPT 04:50AM (+1) local time
This flight is only available for the following displaced Passengers:

TN111 LAX-PPT from 13 June
TN07 LAX-PPT from 13 June

Wednesday June 16:





TN401 Depart: LAX 01:00PM PST
Arrive: PPT 6:20PM local time
This flight will be available for passengers booked on TN01 on June 16.


TN421 Depart: LAX 08:45PM PST
Arrive: PPT 02:05AM (+1) local time

NORMAL SCHEDULE – Thursday, June 17th :D

Normal flight operations and schedules will commence from Thursday, June 17th.


</SPAN>******************************************
The following is flight information for flights departing from Papeete to Los Angeles. It is estimated that all stranded individuals will be accommodated on these flights. Passengers with onward connections are recommended to proceed to their connecting carrier.

Monday June 14:

TN402 Depart: PPT 11:00PM local time
Arrive: LAX 10:15AM (+1) PST
Tuesday June 15:

TN408 Depart: PPT 01:30 AM local time
Arrive: LAX 12:45 PM


TN412 Depart: PPT 06:00AM local time
Arrive: LAX 05:20PM PST


TN402 Depart: PPT 10:00PM local time
Arrive: LAX 9:15AM (+1) PST
Wednesday June 16:

TN422 Depart: PPT 07:00AM local time
Arrive: LAX 06:15PM PST

AnglerGirl
June 15th, 2010, 11:43 PM
Nice! It's over. LOL - did ATN come to any agreement from their notice a couple weeks ago? We never did hear if the pilots got resolution.

Oh, and I've got this round. Really. Put your wallet away.

Tattoo boy
June 16th, 2010, 12:33 AM
Great! I'll get dinner.Just put on my tab

mustangmonie
June 16th, 2010, 01:05 AM
Things are looking up ;) The planes are flying and on schedule to be caught up within days. I remain hopeful about the next two cruise departures going smoothly. I have a little nagging concern over the port and harbor blockades. Does anyone have information regarding the movement of cargo and boats? Last I read, they still wouldn't even allow the ferry to travel between Papeete and Moorea.:( Do you suppose they would give the PG any trouble?

Thrilled to know we'll be traveling with such a generous group (we'll see you on deck 8, June 27).

I wonder if there is any chance Mariah would be able to get her trip rebooked to join us on the 26th? I suppose it would be difficult to get off work again so soon, but perhaps there is a wonderfully understanding employer in AZ wanting to be a hero. Mariah was so gracious, I am so disappointed for her.

TxTvlGrl
June 16th, 2010, 11:19 AM
What a relief!!! I have been holding my breath for the past 6 days! :eek:
We are on the June 19th, 7 night. I never did tell my hubby. No sense in both of us stressing out! ;)

mariah27
June 16th, 2010, 12:00 PM
Thanks MTN Driver for the offer of a fedexed drink.... could you make it a Vanilla Creme Brulee instead? MY SO scoured the La airport and Manhattan Beach trying to find one for me as he knew after 90 days of dieting I was dreaming of the creme brulee.

Wish I could have rebooked to 6/26 but I think that's a 10 day if I'm not mistaken....... My work would allow me to leave pretty much any time but I have a 17 year old (I'm a single mom) that I have to pawn off on someone so it takes major maneuvering to coordinate that. Also, someone that doesn't mind a 8-11 days of a teen who thinks "I'm bored" is a demand to be entertained.

I'm sure you guys will have a blast and hopefully all the leftover dregs of the strike will be gone!!!!


mariah