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78232
July 18th, 2010, 12:55 AM
We are planning a Caribbean cruise in March. We will have a regular size veranda (VE) .DH thinks a retreat cabana would be duplicating the veranda. I'm not so sure I agree with him. Has anyone booked a retreat cabana and felt like it was a waste of money taking into consideration the time spent in port and other activities on the ship?
Thanks
Marcia

Krazy Kruizers
July 18th, 2010, 06:33 AM
Which ship are you on?

Only the Eurodam and Nieuw Amsterdam have the Retreat and Lido Cabanas.

Personally -- we always book and SA and feel that it is a waste of money to rent one of them. JMO

78232
July 18th, 2010, 02:11 PM
We are waiting for the spring 2012 bookings to open so we haven't booked yet. I know for sure it will be the Eurodam or Niew Amsterdam. I want a ship with the Tamarind, I love oriental food and the Lido misses the mark for me.
Marcia

Former Goalie
July 18th, 2010, 06:29 PM
We are planning a Caribbean cruise in March. We will have a regular size veranda (VE) .DH thinks a retreat cabana would be duplicating the veranda. I'm not so sure I agree with him. Has anyone booked a retreat cabana and felt like it was a waste of money taking into consideration the time spent in port and other activities on the ship?
Thanks
Marcia
No way is booking a Retreat cabana remotely close to having a stateroom w/veranda. At the Retreat, you have your own dedicated small cabana, shaded with two chaises, two chairs, and tables. Set ups with fruit and bottled water. In the common area are loungers for use only by Retreat customers. So, it's very private and never, in our experience, was there a lack of space, chaises, etc. There are two wonderful attendants who will get you lunch, champagne and choc. covered strawbs. int the mid afternoon.

78232
July 18th, 2010, 11:52 PM
Did you use the cabanas on port days? Did you participate in many activities on board during sea days or was the cabana your main entertainment? I'm trying to figure out how much we would use one.
Thanks
Marcia

IRL_Joanie
July 19th, 2010, 05:20 AM
Did you use the cabanas on port days? Did you participate in many activities on board during sea days or was the cabana your main entertainment? I'm trying to figure out how much we would use one.
Thanks
Marcia

Marcia,

I am in your shoes wanting to book the Retreat Cabana for our cruise on Nieuw Amsterdam in November. We have an SY Guarantee right now and hubby also thinks the Retreat Cabana is a waste:(

That said, maybe we can both use the foolowing as an incentive to get our spouses to see what we would get there as opposed to Room Service in the Taterooms:

BTW, I have this in full only on the Nieuw Amsterdam, but think all of it would also be on the Eurodam:

The Retreat Cabanas
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Rental Period: Full day, 09:00am to 05:00pm
Price: $45 for port days and $75 for sea days
Occupancy: 2 adults + 2 children up to 18 years
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Includes following services:
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* Towel Setup
* Bathrobes
* Handheld fans – in case no ceiling fans will be installed
* I-Pod with preloaded music selection
* Discount on selected spa services for days in port only
* 1 Evian Mister per cabana
* Chilled water bottles setup
* Frozen grapes, chocolate covered strawberries and a glass of champagne at 03:00pm
* Food service Island with following offerings: all food items will be served in small glass or porcelain cups. Healthy breakfast options like yogurts, cereal and muesli, fresh sliced fruit, a variety of “healthy bites” sandwiches, wraps, salads, fruit juices and yogurt/buttermilk drinks at lunch and afternoon.
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Packages are also available at discounted rates for guests who wish to rent a cabana for the duration of the entire cruise and can be booked at the Reception Desk or Prebooked via Ships Services at 1-800-541-1576 (IRL_Joanie's Note: Pricing as of 17 July 2010)
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Following info from fellow Cruise Critic Member: Cruzin Suzin on 17 July 2010 with the response to questions she had asked of HAL regarding the Retreat Cabanas. Her questions are in Bold the answers from HAL are in blue:
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Retreat Cabanas..Questions Answered. I had a few questions about the retreat cabanas on the Nieuw Amsterdam, so I wrote to HAL and just received the answers.

Please see the below questions / answers and the attached lunch menu from the Beverage Manager onboard.

1. We would like to entertain friends we might meet on the ship. I thought it was a classy way to entertain rather than just on our balcony or in our cabin. Is this allowed?

Family cabanas are for 4 adults and 2 children under 18 only. Since it is only you and your daughter as long as the number of adults does not exceed the max there is no problem.

2. Also if I do entertain can drinks be charged separately? Or will they go on my account since I have the cabana?


The beverages for cabana occupants are charged to the “registered” on board account.

3. If I purchased liquor on the ship, for our own use, for example vodka and mixer can I bring that up there? Or must drinks be purchased and consumed only up there

You may order Liquors via in room dining for in room consumption only.

Can we bring wine up there?

Yes, any wine that is not provided by HAL and brought to a public area is subject to a $18 corkage fee per bottle. If purchased onboard no corkage fee is charged.

4. What if it is raining? Can you still use them or is it too slippery up there?

If it’s a light rain it’s still usable, if cabanas are unusable due to rain any unused portion of the day is refunded.
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Menu.. menu from the Beverage Manager onboard.
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Vegetarian Panini
Fontina cheese with grilled eggplant, pimento, tomato, red chili aïoli
Pita Pocket
Hummus, roasted vegetables, chiffonade lettuce, kalamata olives, tzatziki sauce
Croque Monsieur
Grilled French Baguette with ham and Gruyère cheese
French Panini
Baguette filled with smoked ham and Gruyère, cornichons and French fries
Salmon Fillet Sandwich
Grilled with seaweed salad
Freshly Grilled Burgers
All American beef or cheeseburger, classic cut French fries

Hope this can benefit all of us who are trying to convince our significant others:D My hubby is food driven so...:)

Joanie

78232
July 19th, 2010, 01:14 PM
Since the family cabanas allow 4 adults and 2 children under 18, I wonder if the regular retreat cabanas allow 1 child in addition to tnhe two adults?
Marcia

jtl513
July 19th, 2010, 01:45 PM
Since the family cabanas allow 4 adults and 2 children under 18, I wonder if the regular retreat cabanas allow 1 child in addition to tnhe two adults?
MarciaProbably. There is a chair and table at the railing.

lazydayz
July 19th, 2010, 05:44 PM
I recently discussed the retreat cabanas with HAL and was told that the regular cabanas could be reserved by our party of two adults and one child (but cannot be booked by three adults). We elected to go with the family cabana anyway since it is so much larger.

traveler1980
July 20th, 2010, 06:20 PM
Does anyone know if you can let others use your cabana when you are not in it? For example we are traveling with my parents. If we rented a retreat cabana and wanted to let them use it for the day is that allowable? Thanks.

driven2succeed
July 23rd, 2010, 08:54 PM
I hate to post since I want to always be assured of having a retreat cabana for myself, BUT....
The cabana was THE BEST part of the cruise. We went on several excursions only to say that Enrico must be missing us (wink wink) so we better hurry back to the ship!
The service was wonderful. The solitude restful. The view divine. It was money well spent.
We have booked a cabana for our upcoming cruise. We are going to be seeing the same ports, but the availability of a retreat cabana was a deal breaker for us.
I would NOT want a cabana down by the pool unless I had toddlers who wanted to be in the pool and yet needed the opportunity to rest at some point in the day. It is very crowded down there and not very relaxing.

rebeccac
July 24th, 2010, 08:41 AM
DH and I are sailing on the Nieuw Amsterdam to the Med next September. Since it is such a port intensive cruise, I don't want to book a cabana for the entire week, so I know I have to wait until onboard to see if there is anything available for a day. Where would I go once on board to attempt to book a retreat cabana?

IRL_Joanie
July 24th, 2010, 09:16 AM
DH and I are sailing on the Nieuw Amsterdam to the Med next September. Since it is such a port intensive cruise, I don't want to book a cabana for the entire week, so I know I have to wait until onboard to see if there is anything available for a day. Where would I go once on board to attempt to book a retreat cabana?

I will be doing the same, since I cannot convince hubby to pre book for a week:mad:

I will go to the Front Desk (in the Atrium) as soon as I board the ship to make our daily reservations. I just hope there will be one available...

Joanie

Diane Rose
July 24th, 2010, 10:55 AM
I hate to post since I want to always be assured of having a retreat cabana for myself, BUT....
The cabana was THE BEST part of the cruise. We went on several excursions only to say that Enrico must be missing us (wink wink) so we better hurry back to the ship!
The service was wonderful. The solitude restful. The view divine. It was money well spent.
We have booked a cabana for our upcoming cruise. We are going to be seeing the same ports, but the availability of a retreat cabana was a deal breaker for us.
I would NOT want a cabana down by the pool unless I had toddlers who wanted to be in the pool and yet needed the opportunity to rest at some point in the day. It is very crowded down there and not very relaxing.

I am so glad to hear this. We also booked a retreat cabana and I cannot wait for the cruise.

It sounds like the service is a wonderful part of the cabana experience. Do the stewards share in a part of the daily tipping charge or should they be tipped separately?

Diane

mindydaile
July 24th, 2010, 12:13 PM
I'm obviously in the minority here but I think it's definitely a "duplication" of the perks of a verandah.

Then again I'm not one to sit in the same place all day - I'm going to trivia and to bingo and a cooking class and a lecture, etc.

I also don't use the spa so the discount on spa services would be wasted on me.

Cruisin Suzin
July 24th, 2010, 12:46 PM
I'm obviously in the minority here but I think it's definitely a "duplication" of the perks of a verandah.

Then again I'm not one to sit in the same place all day - I'm going to trivia and to bingo and a cooking class and a lecture, etc.

I also don't use the spa so the discount on spa services would be wasted on me.


I didn't realize or know there was a discount on spa services with the cabana..where did you see this..I just might want that..:D

boingy300
July 24th, 2010, 01:12 PM
I rented one for the week as my husband will be in the "Seminar at Sea" for continuing education. I am not one to lay around all day so I just want a spot I can come and go and not worry about carrying around my towel,etc. I met another lady traveling alone via the roll call who has a Lido. We are going to visit each others' cabanas.I think it'll be fun just to try. My husband will enjoy it when he's on break or on port days after our excursions. I'll let you know after Dec. if I thought it was worth it.$300 or $21.43/day per person didn't seem that much to me.
Karen

mindydaile
July 24th, 2010, 01:22 PM
I didn't realize or know there was a discount on spa services with the cabana..where did you see this..I just might want that..:D

It was in the list of amenities posted by Joanie earlier in the thread.

rebeccac
July 24th, 2010, 01:44 PM
I'm also wondering if you can use a cocktail card to pay for drinks in the cabana (assuming we order the drinks that are part of that package)?

I too hope there are some still around when I board. I would like to try it, but just can't get myself to pay for the full trip when we are going to be off touring so much of the time.

dot73
July 24th, 2010, 04:16 PM
I'm the person who booked the Lido cabana that Boingy300 refers to in her post. I am on the 14-day cruise and booked that cabana for the entire cruise. I've read mostly bad things on these boards about the Lido cabanas, mostly from passengers who have never booked them, however, I've decided to see if I will like it.

I travel solo and love the idea of having my own spot by the pool, near the Lido, etc. I can come and go and never lose my spot. I can park my reading materials, my cross stitch, etc. in the morning and never be accused of being a chair hog when I leave to go for lunch, seminar, etc. I think the Nieuw Amsterdam only has five Lido cabanas so hopefully it won't be too crowded. Because of the huge single supplement for a balcony cabin, I save $$ by booking an outside guarantee. I also don't gamble (except a one time $20 for the slots) and don't use the spa, so the cabana will be my extravagance for the the cruise. If I don't like it, I won't book it again, but might as well give it a try. My new roll call friend and I will have the best of two worlds: when she comes down to swim or eat at the Lido, she can visit my cabana; and when I need some peace and quiet, I will join her at her retreat cabana. :D

I also would like to know whether the cabana attendant is part of the automatic tipping or whether he gets tipped separately. Thank you.

kent4489
July 24th, 2010, 10:10 PM
We were on the Eurodam in Feb. Absolutely LOVED the Retreat cabana. We were traveling with friends (separate cabins), so we rented the family cabana for the week. We all had verandahs, but spent a lot more time at the Retreat. The service was OUTSTANDING! Plenty of time to use it on port days too.

We'll be on the Eurodam again in Sept. and we'll book a Retreat cabana again. Just hubby and I, but we're booking the family cabana again... love all the space and corner view.

We tipped the cabana attendants directly.

78232
July 25th, 2010, 02:07 AM
Is it possible to use the cabanas in the evening for stargazing or relaxing? I know the attendants aren't there at that time>
Marcia

traveler1980
July 25th, 2010, 04:57 PM
I am going to ask this question again as i think it got lost in the thread.

If we rent a two person cabana for the week and we are not using it can my parents who are on the ship with us use it when we are not there?

boingy300
July 25th, 2010, 09:09 PM
I am going to ask this question again as i think it got lost in the thread.

If we rent a two person cabana for the week and we are not using it can my parents who are on the ship with us use it when we are not there?

When I asked this question to HAL they said 1 person from the renting cabin is supposed to be there. So when my DH is in seminar, I can have a friend visit, but the 3 of us cannot be there at the same time. I guess only HAL can answer this,but that's as they explained it to me. (First timer w/ HAL or a cabana).
Karen

Cruisin Suzin
July 26th, 2010, 12:28 AM
I think you are best getting this answer directly from HAL Ship Services, see if they will confirm the answer in writing.. Perhaps you would be better renting the family one then you could have your parents us it as well.

Cruisin Suzin
July 26th, 2010, 12:30 AM
Is it possible to use the cabanas in the evening for stargazing or relaxing? I know the attendants aren't there at that time>
Marcia


I asked this question at Ship Services, and was told NO..it is roped off after 5ish..you could ask them and see what answer you receive:)

DutchByAssociation
July 26th, 2010, 10:52 PM
Since the family cabanas allow 4 adults and 2 children under 18, I wonder if the regular retreat cabanas allow 1 child in addition to tnhe two adults?
Marcia

The cabanas are for up to 2 adults and 2 children and the family are for up to 4 adults and 2 children

boingy300
August 7th, 2010, 02:21 PM
I'm the person who booked the Lido cabana that Boingy300 refers to in her post. I am on the 14-day cruise and booked that cabana for the entire cruise. I've read mostly bad things on these boards about the Lido cabanas, mostly from passengers who have never booked them, however, I've decided to see if I will like it.

I travel solo and love the idea of having my own spot by the pool, near the Lido, etc. I can come and go and never lose my spot. I can park my reading materials, my cross stitch, etc. in the morning and never be accused of being a chair hog when I leave to go for lunch, seminar, etc. I think the Nieuw Amsterdam only has five Lido cabanas so hopefully it won't be too crowded. Because of the huge single supplement for a balcony cabin, I save $$ by booking an outside guarantee. I also don't gamble (except a one time $20 for the slots) and don't use the spa, so the cabana will be my extravagance for the the cruise. If I don't like it, I won't book it again, but might as well give it a try. My new roll call friend and I will have the best of two worlds: when she comes down to swim or eat at the Lido, she can visit my cabana; and when I need some peace and quiet, I will join her at her retreat cabana. :D

I also would like to know whether the cabana attendant is part of the automatic tipping or whether he gets tipped separately. Thank you.

I think we will have a blast. It will be fun to check out both types of cabanas. (I will bring my cross-stitch as well then. It's so rare that I sit still) I am also curious about the tipping. I will con't to search.
Karen

boingy300
August 7th, 2010, 02:58 PM
Got it! Here's a thread on tipping:
http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=1229814&highlight=retreat+cabana
Karen

helenp2
August 7th, 2010, 03:38 PM
We had a family cabana on the Eurodam B2B Canada/NE for 20 days and yes, it would be a deal breaker for us if you couldn't get one on future cruises. I just can't tell you how relaxing and quiet they are. When we sailed past Lady Liberty I think quite possibly we had the best view on the ship. Being on the corner produced wonderful sea breezes and was wonderful for late afternoon naps. We were in a full suite and while the veranda is always nice there is something very special about these retreat cabanas. It was without a doubt the best money we spent over the course of those 20 days. Highly recommended.

blkjac
August 12th, 2010, 12:23 PM
We booked the Santuary aboard our Princess cruise last year and it was fantastic. We have already booked a Retreat cabana for our entire cruise aboard the Eurodam this Nov 6th. There is no better feeling than to know that no-will move your books or complain that this chaise or that is not occupied when you are not there. It is yours and only yours.

In fact one of lifes little pleasures in the Sanctuary aboard the Caribbean Princess was when people would walk in the Sanctuary and sit on a super soft chaise only to be informed that this was a fee only area and they would have to put up or move on. :-)

Joe

Cruisin Suzin
August 12th, 2010, 12:32 PM
I'm the person who booked the Lido cabana that Boingy300 refers to in her post. I am on the 14-day cruise and booked that cabana for the entire cruise. I've read mostly bad things on these boards about the Lido cabanas, mostly from passengers who have never booked them, however, I've decided to see if I will like it.

I travel solo and love the idea of having my own spot by the pool, near the Lido, etc. I can come and go and never lose my spot. I can park my reading materials, my cross stitch, etc. in the morning and never be accused of being a chair hog when I leave to go for lunch, seminar, etc. I think the Nieuw Amsterdam only has five Lido cabanas so hopefully it won't be too crowded. Because of the huge single supplement for a balcony cabin, I save $$ by booking an outside guarantee. I also don't gamble (except a one time $20 for the slots) and don't use the spa, so the cabana will be my extravagance for the the cruise. If I don't like it, I won't book it again, but might as well give it a try. My new roll call friend and I will have the best of two worlds: when she comes down to swim or eat at the Lido, she can visit my cabana; and when I need some peace and quiet, I will join her at her retreat cabana. :D

I also would like to know whether the cabana attendant is part of the automatic tipping or whether he gets tipped separately. Thank you.

From everything I have read they are being tipped seperately, (not by everyone ) but by quite a few... but I don't know if they are also part of the automatic tipp pool as well...so I don't know what I am going to do either...still a bit confused about that part.:confused:

terigo
August 12th, 2010, 02:42 PM
I'm obviously in the minority here but I think it's definitely a "duplication" of the perks of a verandah.

Then again I'm not one to sit in the same place all day - I'm going to trivia and to bingo and a cooking class and a lecture, etc.

I also don't use the spa so the discount on spa services would be wasted on me.

I'm with you, so we can be in the minority together.

The retreat menu doesn't thrill me, since I don't diet at ALL on cruises. Cruising is when I can splurge and get my rich cream sauces and buttered bread. :D
We enjoy socializing with other passengers in the MDR at lunch.

The spa services are not used by me or hubby, so that is of no benefit.

As long as we can have breakfast delivered, and enjoy it on our verandah, the rest of the day is spent doing whatever is available to do.

We live in Florida, and have a pool, so we won't be crowded at the Lido pool, because we won't be there.

Everyone has different priorities. I confess, lounging in a cabana is not my fave way to spend a cruise.
I can understand that for others it would be well worthwhile, based on their own needs and desires.

slabeaume
August 12th, 2010, 05:41 PM
If you're traveling with another couple, can you book a cabana using the names of one person from each couple?

DeRon
August 12th, 2010, 06:00 PM
How close to a pool are the cabanas? I've never been on a HAL ship.

Mollynme
August 12th, 2010, 06:07 PM
I travel solo and love the idea of having my own spot by the pool, near the Lido, etc. I can come and go and never lose my spot. I can park my reading materials, my cross stitch, etc. in the morning and never be accused of being a chair hog when I leave to go for lunch, seminar, etc. I think the Nieuw Amsterdam only has five Lido cabanas so hopefully it won't be too crowded. Because of the huge single supplement for a balcony cabin, I save $$ by booking an outside guarantee. I also don't gamble (except a one time $20 for the slots) and don't use the spa, so the cabana will be my extravagance for the the cruise.
I will be on the Eurodam for the first time in October and never even thought about this until I read your post. I will also be solo so I won't have anyone to save my deck chair for me when I have to leave for a while. It will be great to have my own little space near the pool for the whole trip! :D

AttorneyVin
August 31st, 2010, 12:24 PM
We are debating between the Lido and the Retreat Cabana. Had decided on a Lido and booked it for our February cruise on the Eurodam ... my prime concern with the Retreat is motion sickness, as it's so high up on the ship?

Anyone have any advice on this or notice a difference between the motion in the Lidos vs Retreats?

Thanks

kathryn747
August 31st, 2010, 01:00 PM
We are debating between the Lido and the Retreat Cabana. Had decided on a Lido and booked it for our February cruise on the Eurodam ... my prime concern with the Retreat is motion sickness, as it's so high up on the ship?

Anyone have any advice on this or notice a difference between the motion in the Lidos vs Retreats?

Thanks
We didn't have any motion issues, from the retreat cabanas you can see the pool when the roof is open. I think if I remember correctly that it's 2 floors down.

81Zoomie
September 1st, 2010, 07:21 PM
It looks like there is a tall glass rail/window on the side facing retreat cabanas (observarion deck) on the Eurodam. Does it get hot, or is there still a nice breeze. Any opinions on which is better, a side facing or pool facing cabana? I know they are assigned, just wondering what to expect.

Jdell
September 2nd, 2010, 10:59 AM
All:

I have been trying to locate good pictures of the cabanas and their proximity to the pools but have been coming up empty.

We just took a cruise this past summer on the Celebrity Equinox in the med and I absolutely LOVED IT! We were next to the Nieuw Amsterdam in Santorini and it looked really nice. Seeing this cabana option would be key for me as the only complaint I had about the Equinox was the pool/chair situation. So here go a few questions:

1) Are they shaded all the time or can you always configure so that if you want sun, you can have it open?

2) How close and crowded are the ones on the Lido deck which appear to be near the pool?

3) If the retreat cabins are a deck above, is there any form of water nearby (on the deck) for a quick rinse off/cool down?

4) Does anyone know if HAL's pools are fresh or salt water?

Thanks in advance for any help here!

catl331
September 2nd, 2010, 11:11 AM
1) Are they shaded all the time or can you always configure so that if you want sun, you can have it open?

2) How close and crowded are the ones on the Lido deck which appear to be near the pool?

3) If the retreat cabins are a deck above, is there any form of water nearby (on the deck) for a quick rinse off/cool down?

4) Does anyone know if HAL's pools are fresh or salt water?

Thanks in advance for any help here!
1) It depends on which way the ship is facing. If you want sun in the Cabana Club you can go to the center area.
See image 23 here http://www.shipcafe.net/shipcafe/ed/ed_ob.htm
2) IIRC there's two rows of loungers between the cabanas by the window and the water on the Eurodam. I presume the Nieuw A will be the same. In this pic the Cabana Club is up above, and the Lido cabanas are over by the starboard (right) windows: http://www.shipcafe.net/shipcafe/ed/ed_lido.htm
3) They're two decks above the pool. I saw a post that implied there's a shower there, but I can't confirm that.
4) Fresh. It may be desalinated sea water or it may be water purchased in port.

dot73
September 2nd, 2010, 11:18 AM
I am a bit confused.:confused:

Jdell - Are you talking about the Retreat Cabanas that are two decks above the Lido deck or are you talking about the Lido Cabanas that are on the Lido deck near the pool with the retractable roof?

From what I can understand, there are 8 Lido Cabanas on the Eurodam and 5 Lido Cabanas on the Nieuw Amsterdam.

catl331
September 2nd, 2010, 11:29 AM
Make that image 25 of the first link, and image 22 of the second link.

Jdell
September 2nd, 2010, 12:33 PM
catl331- Helpful info--thanks so much!!

dot73 - Not sure what they are called on the Nieuw Amsterdam as I've seen Lido Cabanas, Cabana Club and Retreat Cabanas, but I guess I'm interested in any/all of the available private cabana options on the ship.

Thanks again!

slp123
September 6th, 2010, 04:57 PM
I am a bit confused.:confused:

Jdell - Are you talking about the Retreat Cabanas that are two decks above the Lido deck or are you talking about the Lido Cabanas that are on the Lido deck near the pool with the retractable roof?

From what I can understand, there are 8 Lido Cabanas on the Eurodam and 5 Lido Cabanas on the Nieuw Amsterdam.

I had a Cabana on the Eurodam last November and have booked a Cabana on the Nieuw Amsterdam. Though they have different names, Retreat for Eurodam and Cabana Club on the Nieuw Amsterdam, they are both located two decks above the pool (lido deck) and are reached by the forward elevators taken to the Observation Deck. The Cabana's on this deck provide seating that is almost completely shaded, except early mornings and late afternoon's when the sun is low enough in the sky but of course depending on which way the ship is facing. On the Eurodam, the seating you see on the deck plan outside of the cabana's is for the exclusive use of Cabana members--who may either have a "run of the cruise" membership or should there be space remaining, buy a day's membership. While there were of course friend and family who dropped by to socialize, your guests cannot order drinks independently, they must be ordered through the Cabana holder and put on the Cabana holder's tab the very same way it works when you are a member of a country club and invite a guest. The guest can only be there at your invitation, does not have run of the facilities and cannot be there or remain if you leave. The cabana club deck area next to the cabins is roped off from the rest of the ship and marked with "member's only signs'. And even though there is a staircase that begins where you see the break in the aft facing cabanas, a non-member cannot cut through the Cabana Club from say the Exploration Cafe to go down those stairs to the running track on the Navigation Deck. Those stairs are for Cabana members only so you can go down to the pool without having to go into chilled air conditioning (another set of stairs takes you to Lido). At the risk of dating myself, the Retreat was very much like being on a two or three class passenger ship in the 1950's. Now-a-days every passenger has access to all the public areas; you spend more money to get a bigger cabin and/or a better location on the ship. On these two ships you can actually buy yourself a higher level of service and public space that has been reserved for use by a certain number of passengers. It is no different when you take a suite on HAL--you have the exclusive use with others buying the same class of cabin to use the services of a concierge and to use the Neptune Lounge and the goodies it provides. People don't bring non-suite guests to the Neptune Lounge on a regular basis although I am sure someone could meet you there for a drink if you wanted a secluded place to have a private conversation and did not want to do it in your stateroom. But guests can't just drop by, and they certainly cannot stay if you leave. I was further told by someone at HAL that the reason they changed the name from "The Retreat" to "The Cabana Club" was to better tie in with their policy that this was a members only venue not a retreat for anyone looking for a less crowded area.

While on my last Eurodam cruise, I met this very nice Canadian couple who were traveling with their 2 teenage daughters and both sets of their parents. They were having a great time because their Cabana was the family and friends meet point so it was easy to find one another and hang out. I told them I had a cabana as well but had not seen there up there. The wife said "up where" and then the husband laughed and explained that each of us only knew half the story. He then explained he had a poolside cabana but said he almost ended up where I was then learned about the Lido cabana's were much more his style--he had lots a friends on the ship and he liked that they could find him easily and drop by to socialize and jhave a drink or eat lunch together by the pool as they were not all dining together. He said it was like having a day cabin and a stateroom and he liked being near the pool. He also told me they had an assigned pool steward. So you see it depends what you are looking for. I know I would not like a Lido cabana and the Canadian chap knew the Retreat wasn't going to work for him.

And someone asked if there is an outdoor shower--the answer is yes. Also not shown on the deck plans, but the unmarked spaces behind the elevators, on each hallway, are private bathrooms for the use of Club members. Also I see they have moved the poolside Cabana's from one side of the ship to the other. Very smart! On the Eurodam, all the traffic going from front to aft had to walk by those cabanas. Now they put them on the other side which has far less traffic as there is no entry to the forward elevators and stairs on the starboard side. This will make those Lido Cabana's far more desirable then on the Eurodam. They are, in all cases, much larger than the Cabana's on the upper deck. They were already far more stable then the ones on the upper deck and made out easily inoto great private space to dine al freso .

Finally, regarding Aft vs. Side facing Cabana's--if you want it breezier, face aft., if you chill easily ask for side facing. If you really want privacy, take a side facing cabana because you never have to close the curtains on the sea facing side. Aft facing cabins wanting complete privacy must close curtains facing in both directions, especially if you are aft facing, port side because those private stairs I mention earlier come right up in front of your cabana.

As for purchase . . .

The "run of the cruise" membership can be reserved in advance of your trip BUT MUST be paid for in full in advance. Space is on a first come, first serve basis. HAL will not sell all the Club Cabanas you see pictured for "run of the cruise". The last piece of information I know second-hand. I am not sure how many they hold back but I know at least one because I met someone up there who told me they gave him a free day's membership because there had been problems with their cabin that took a day to fix. So obviously they hold some for marketing and customer satisfaction issues. The spa also uses a cabana to give outdoor massages. No, massages are not included in the price of a Cabana. The issue never came up for me--everyday was cloudless and calm seas. Any space remaining can be reserved and paid for on board; when booked on board, if the weather turns inclement, HAL will allow you to cancel and give you s full refund.

dot73
September 6th, 2010, 05:11 PM
Thank you for the detailed explanation. I have booked a Lido cabana on the Nieuw Amsterdam and it sounds like they have been improved over the ones on the Eurodam. Do you know who decides what cabana you get? Is it assigned when you check in or do you have to go somewhere and pick an available one? Thank you.

slp123
September 6th, 2010, 05:34 PM
Thank you for the detailed explanation. I have booked a Lido cabana on the Nieuw Amsterdam and it sounds like they have been improved over the ones on the Eurodam. Do you know who decides what cabana you get? Is it assigned when you check in or do you have to go somewhere and pick an available one? Thank you.

Your Cabana is assigned when you come on board. The information was waiting in my cabin along with any pre-booked excursions and dining reservations. The ship's beverage manager has "jurisdiction" over this portion of the ship's real estate and service, so see him or her if you have a question or problem.

Linda&Vern
September 6th, 2010, 06:07 PM
Question for "slp123" - and I hope I phrased this correctly: Do you feel the Lido Pool Cabana area makes the passengers sitting on the side of the ship opposite of the Cabanas feel like their "ocean view" is being blocked by the Cabanas? I have no objection to the "upper level" Cabanas (a private club is a private club) ... but I just can't picture how I would feel sitting in the Lido Pool area and not being able to see out of the windows on one side of the ship ... I feel that area is a "public area." Am I wrong?

slp123
September 6th, 2010, 09:49 PM
Question for "slp123" - and I hope I phrased this correctly: Do you feel the Lido Pool Cabana area makes the passengers sitting on the side of the ship opposite of the Cabanas feel like their "ocean view" is being blocked by the Cabanas? I have no objection to the "upper level" Cabanas (a private club is a private club) ... but I just can't picture how I would feel sitting in the Lido Pool area and not being able to see out of the windows on one side of the ship ... I feel that area is a "public area." Am I wrong?

I have a confession--I am unable to answer your question. I have been on ships where the pool was surrounded by lounge chairs and those were ringed by tables that sat under the running track of the deck above--this is a very common configuration--almost always you don't have a railing but plexi-glass on newer ships and more substantial enclosures on older ships to cut wind for the dining areas. On those ships that put tables all the way around in great number I feel hemmed in. Where one side under the overhang is reserved for lounge chairs, I like it better, but in general I do not like ever sitting by the pool since I never swim in it and I do not travel with children. When I am having a sea day I want to hear the sea and maybe a few birds and that is about it--I live in the New York City--so I don't lack for stimulus.

Now in my opinion I believe the Lido Pool on the Eurodam resembles what the density must be like on a Coney Island Beach on a 90F Sunday in July (but I have never been there either)--only there's no sand and there is no breeze. I was on the ship in November 2009 and every day was at least 85F. And while we chose to be in the Retreat, I did not know about those Cabana's until after we were on board. There was no availability until either the 3rd or 4th day of our cruise. By that point we had found ourselves really liking the Sea View Pool. It is open and airy and at least on our cruise less crowded. We almost told them to forget about the Cabana by the time they told us they had one available. We just loved it but I must confess we would have been happy at the sea view pool.

Now the Lido pool is not awful, it is wonderful if you have kids. It is wonderful if you want to be outside and do not like it too windy (the seaview pool can be windy). The Lido is of course THE choice if the weather is inclement because they close the retractable roof. It is wonderful if you are traveling in a group of more than 4 because those cabanas on the Lido are much bigger. And if you like to be entertained by fellow passengers and their antics, then by all means go for the entertainment value.

But if you are not going to take a Cabana and you want to sit by a pool and also look out to the sea, and not hemmed in then choose the aft (Seaview) Pool on the Lido deck. OR if you really want privacy without paying extra, then have the pool staff set you up with deck chairs on the Panorama Deck overlooking the Seaview pool. That is exactly where I sat when we did not have a Cabana or when we wanted to be with some of our friends for a while. And I found the Seaview pool to be one of the most attractive pool areas on newer ships because it reminds me of pools and ships from a simpler era--when ships didn't feel the need to be amusement parks. Thankfully HAL rarely feels that way.

And if we should be cruising together one say, please call me Steven.

Cruisin Suzin
September 6th, 2010, 11:01 PM
I was just thinking tonight that if HAL ever put the Nieuw Amsterdam or the Eurodam in Alaska, what a view that would be from the Cabana Club! Might be a bit cold but a nice warm blanket, hot chocolate, and a camera would be heavenly.

jtl513
September 7th, 2010, 04:02 AM
I was just thinking tonight that if HAL ever put the Nieuw Amsterdam or the Eurodam in Alaska, what a view that would be from the Cabana Club! Might be a bit cold but a nice warm blanket, hot chocolate, and a camera would be heavenly.When stopped at a glacier the ships tend to either face the glacier head-on or have it in about the 10 o'clock position. Therefore, you could have a very poor view from the cabanas on either deck 11 or 9.

slp123
September 7th, 2010, 03:45 PM
I was just thinking tonight that if HAL ever put the Nieuw Amsterdam or the Eurodam in Alaska, what a view that would be from the Cabana Club! Might be a bit cold but a nice warm blanket, hot chocolate, and a camera would be heavenly.

When we meet on board I have a better suggestion for an Alaskan cruise--I love HAL but a smaller ship in Alaska makes a big difference as to what you get to see. But we are way off topic now for this discussion.:p

Krazy Kruizers
September 7th, 2010, 03:59 PM
I was just thinking tonight that if HAL ever put the Nieuw Amsterdam or the Eurodam in Alaska, what a view that would be from the Cabana Club! Might be a bit cold but a nice warm blanket, hot chocolate, and a camera would be heavenly.

I have to agree with John -- the majority of the times that we have done Alaska -- the ships have had the port side facing the glaciers the longest. Thus only a couple of the Retreat Cabanas would really be able to see the glacier -- and only in one of them could you sit there and not be blocked by anything else. If the port side of the ship does face the glacier -- then those people sitting in the Retreat Cabanas closest to the starboard side won't have a view.

sijid
October 7th, 2010, 06:25 PM
Do the cabanas open up on the first day? We reserved a retreat Cabana fo the week, and are wondering if we can be there for Sailaway.

Also, how strict are they about the hours open?

Dynamictwo
October 27th, 2010, 05:06 PM
Yes, we had a family retreat cabana on the Eurodam and while there was no service on the first day, we stayed in our cabana and enjoyed the afternoon. We have a family cabana again on the Nieuw Amsterdam in 2+ weeks. We booked an inside cabin but were surprised today when HAL called to offer us an upgrade to a spa balcony cabin. That didn't take long to decide on and yes we are repeat multi-star guests. I guess they needed the inside cabins for resale. But we LOVED the amenities that came with the retreat cabanas; $450 total for 4 people for an entire cruise is a bargain! That's around $15+ a day per person-- we made that up in bottled water, champagne, fruit and choc. strawberries, and delivered lunches. There will always be those who can't appreciate being spoiled.

wdw1972
October 27th, 2010, 07:46 PM
Yesterday I booked a retreat cabana for March when my adult son & I are cruising on the Eurodam. Bottled water is free there?? I understand we get glass of champagne at 3pm but figured they'd charge us for the bottled waters ;-)

Sue/WDW1972
Zuiderdam 11/23/10
Eurodam 3/5/11

Dynamictwo
October 27th, 2010, 08:23 PM
Yes, we were given as much bottled water as we wanted. I can't say if that is a normal benefit, but we did get it one year ago on the Eurodam.

terigo
October 28th, 2010, 11:32 PM
Yesterday I booked a retreat cabana for March when my adult son & I are cruising on the Eurodam. Bottled water is free there?? I understand we get glass of champagne at 3pm but figured they'd charge us for the bottled waters ;-)

Sue/WDW1972
Zuiderdam 11/23/10
Eurodam 3/5/11

At a cost of $299.00 for the week for the cabana and its amenities, the bottled water is not free..... you paid for it.

slp123
October 29th, 2010, 02:10 PM
At a cost of $299.00 for the week for the cabana and its amenities, the bottled water is not free..... you paid for it.

When you book a cabana for a week on the upper deck what you have paid for is not the cabana, not the bottled water, not the reserved chair, but rather you have chosen to have an experience that is above the level of service and amenities provided on a line like HAL or lines that are equivalent such as Princess or Celebrity. What you are getting is a 6 star experience -- pampering, service, space, privacy, all inclusive amenities -- on a 4-5 star line which provides good but nonetheless lesser service and certainly not all inclusive.

If you look at it as free water and strawberries and someone who brings you lunch--then it is overpriced. If you look at it as described above, it is a steal.

And either point of view is perfectly correct and that's why some people find it a bargain and others in over-priced indulgence.

dawnprincess
October 29th, 2010, 06:41 PM
When you book a cabana for a week on the upper deck what you have paid for is not the cabana, not the bottled water, not the reserved chair, but rather you have chosen to have an experience that is above the level of service and amenities provided on a line like HAL or lines that are equivalent such as Princess or Celebrity. What you are getting is a 6 star experience -- pampering, service, space, privacy, all inclusive amenities -- on a 4-5 star line which provides good but nonetheless lesser service and certainly not all inclusive.

If you look at it as free water and strawberries and someone who brings you lunch--then it is overpriced. If you look at it as described above, it is a steal.

And either point of view is perfectly correct and that's why some people find it a bargain and others in over-priced indulgence.

Perfectly stated! We enjoyed The Sanctuary twice on Princess and will be sailing in a week on the Eurodam and have rented a Cabana for the length of the cruise. We rarely go in the pool and mostly cruise for relaxation. We also LOVE to read and the regular pool areas are just too noisy for me to concentrate on my book. I agree -- it IS a steal! :D

schoolinmy3
October 29th, 2010, 08:43 PM
Cabanas are great places to take a snooze :) We had one on the Eurodam in May and as you can see my husband enjoyed it. Also my daughter still talks about the chocolate covered strawberries.

schoolinmy3
October 29th, 2010, 08:53 PM
I found a couple more pictures from our retreat cabana on the Eurodam. We had one of the two family cabanas as there were 5 of us.
diane

jengianfrancesco
October 29th, 2010, 11:23 PM
thinking of getting a cabana on our cruise via NA in December. Do all the cabanas have glass from top to bottom or are you up against a railing.

Wasn't sure what the main difference is as well between the Lido and Retreat cabanas other than location.

slp123
October 30th, 2010, 01:52 PM
thinking of getting a cabana on our cruise via NA in December. Do all the cabanas have glass from top to bottom or are you up against a railing.

Wasn't sure what the main difference is as well between the Lido and Retreat cabanas other than location.

If you follow this discussion back a page or two, there was a pretty detailed discussion of the cabanas.

slp123
October 30th, 2010, 03:28 PM
There is a second thread on this topic called "Retreat Cabanas--what is it" in case the info here doesn't cover something.