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WillK
February 21st, 2005, 12:10 PM
I just finished reading "Liners To The Sun" by John Maxtone-Graham. Wonderful perspective on cruising, past and present. Always looking for a good read. What are your favorites?
Cheers-Will

DFD1
February 21st, 2005, 12:26 PM
"The Only Way To Cross" a classic about the great transatlantic liners

bepsf
February 21st, 2005, 01:03 PM
There is a very good book about Normandie by the same name which I enjoyed -

- am currently reading "Transatlantic" which is about the Cunard Line from it's beginnings to WW1.

ekerr19
February 21st, 2005, 01:12 PM
HAL's 2006 Cruise Planner... :D LOL!

jhannah
February 21st, 2005, 02:04 PM
We thoroughly enjoyed "Path Between the Seas" that we read prior to our Panama Canal cruise. It's not directly cruise related, but it really gave us a better understanding and appreciation of this engineering marvel as we sailed through it.

DFD1
February 21st, 2005, 03:03 PM
Brian, Set me straight (no pun intended). Is "The Only Way To Cross" focused on the Normandie? I read it many years, and many books, ago and remembered it as a general view of the transatlantics. Have I remembered it wrong? DFD

TinaLee
February 21st, 2005, 03:10 PM
Mark Twain's "Following the Equator"


TinaLee

bepsf
February 21st, 2005, 03:12 PM
Brian, Set me straight (no pun intended). Is "The Only Way To Cross" focused on the Normandie? I read it many years, and many books, ago and remembered it as a general view of the transatlantics. Have I remembered it wrong? DFD

LOL!!!
Oh, no - you remember correctly...

I meant that the book about Normandie was called "Normandie" - but looking back, I think its really called "Normandie: Her Life and Times"

BTW - Does anyone know of a book about the history of HAL?




Nobody ever accused me of setting anyone straight...
;)

obriendan
February 21st, 2005, 03:29 PM
Not cruise related, but certainly maritime. Robert K. Massie's two books "Dreadnought: Britain, Germany, and the Coming of the Great War", and the naval history of the Great War, "Castles of Steel". If you like history, and naval history in particular, these two well written volumes are very, very good.

sail7seas
February 21st, 2005, 04:07 PM
125 Years of Holland America Line by H.A. Dalkmann and A.J. Schoonderbeek ---who is currently Master of Veendam.

Wonderful book with great HAL historical info. Captain Schoonderbeek is the undisputed expert of the line.

dougnewmanatsea
February 21st, 2005, 04:07 PM
Some recent (i.e., in print and available) favorites of mine:

"Ocean Liner Odyssey 1958-1969" by Ted Scull - a travelogue (with photos) of some of Ted's travels in various passenger ships in those years. A great read which even non-ship-enthusiasts may enjoy. This one includes at least one HAL ship (ROTTERDAM V) too!

"Cunarder" by Stephen Card - any past HAL passenger will know Stephen's magnificent paintings of the fleet. This brand-new book contains a vast collection of his paintings of various Cunarders, most from the on-board collection of QUEEN MARY 2, together with copious amounts of text on the same ships (way, way too long to be called captions). There is also a long section by Maurizio Eliseo on the design and construction of QUEEN MARY 2. This one is probably the most visually stunning book on ships I've ever seen... A truly gorgeous volume.

"Liners & Cruise Ships" by Tony Cooke (and also "Liners & Cruise Ships 2" and "Liners & Cruise Ships 3") - these books give histories of many interesting but less-known liners and cruise ships. You will not find NORMANDIE or QUEEN MARY in here - but while you may never have heard of many of these ships, they're still fascinating.

"The Last White Empresses" by Clive Harvey - this one has a relatively narrow audience as it focuses on three not particularly famous ships; EMPRESS OF BRITAIN (later QUEEN ANNA MARIA, CARNIVALE, FIESTAMARINA, OLYMPIC, and now THE TOPAZ - for her history see here (http://www.maritimematters.com/topaz1.html)), her sister EMPRESS OF ENGLAND (later OCEAN MONARCH) and the follow-on to these ships, EMPRESS OF CANADA (later MARDI GRAS, APOLLON). Lots of people who were on CARNIVALE or MARDI GRAS and who wonder about the history of these ships should buy this book... That aside, it is possibly the best title I've read that's focused on specific ships. These are largely forgotten but fascinating vessels - the last Canadian Pacific ocean liners and two of them went on to found the Carnival empire which today is hugely powerful and of course owns HAL.

"Passenger Liners Scandinavian Style" by Bruce Peter - a commanding survey of virtually all Scandinavian passenger ships of all shapes and sizes. Great writing and really wonderful photos of these ships too.

All of the above are published by Carmania Press, owned by Tony Cooke who is also the author of the "Liners and Cruise Ships" books. They are not all that easy to get in the US but are definitely worth it!

Bookish Angel
February 21st, 2005, 04:18 PM
Great true story of Shackleton's adventure and equally great photos.

CrabbyHarper
February 21st, 2005, 05:31 PM
Seaspray and Whisky by Norman Freeman. The true story of a tramp steamer and its cargo of Vat 69 Scotch whisky. A real hoot! Read this on our Nov 09 Maasdam cruise.

Anything by Linda Greenlaw - if you saw or read "The Perfect Storm" Linda was the lady swordboat captain. She's a great writer - try The Hungry Ocean, or the Lobster Chronicles or All Fishermen are Liars.

Any of the old Crunch and Des story collections - author is Philip Wylie. Fishing technology is dated but the stories are more about human nature, which doesn't change.

Now have to find something good for April Maasdam cruise - looking forward to meeting Bookish Angel - and comparing notes on favorite books.

mariner
February 21st, 2005, 10:53 PM
``Cruising and Crossing'' by Maxtone-Graham is a great book for those who want to know more about Carnival.

I just finished ``The Colombo Bay.'' While it's about container ships, there is a HAL angle and shipboard is shipboard whether the cargo speaks or not. And I met the men who hammer out the contracts for Norfolk after our Maasdam cruise. It's a good book.

arzz
February 21st, 2005, 10:59 PM
There is a book I read several yars ago (title escapes me) that was written by the captain of the Mariposa about her last round the world cruise -- I really enjoyed that one and learned a lot about what cruising once was

CDRMark
February 22nd, 2005, 08:00 AM
The Endurance:Shackleton's Legendary Antarctic Expedition
The cruise from hell and a really crummy shore excursion.
Cheers
MarkB

spongerob
February 22nd, 2005, 08:34 AM
I've read a couple of his books

Unsinkable: The Full Story of the RMS Titanic and Warrior Queens: The Queen Mary and Queen Elizabeth in World War II. Both are well-researched and interesting. Read "Unsinkable" and find out how much Hollywood got intentionally wrong...

trubey
February 22nd, 2005, 09:50 AM
Why, the nice glossy book from HAL describing the upcoming cruises, of course!

I was a book designer and compositor for a large New York publisher for a number of years, and so usually read new projects about a year in advance of their printing. I read the Cunard history -- about the driest, most stuck-up book I've ever encountered!

Lane

carnival2523
February 22nd, 2005, 12:08 PM
I wondered where you were able to purchase the book 125 Years Of Holland America, I couldn't find it available for sale online?

sail7seas
February 22nd, 2005, 12:37 PM
The publisher is The Pentland Press.

It was first published in 1998 by :


The Pentland Press Ltd.
1 Hutton Close
South Church,
Bishop Auckland
Durham

You may try contacting them....perhaps finding a website.

We received it as a gift when we were aboard Maasdam and we treasure it (along with the wonderful personalization from the Captain.)

jan7487
February 22nd, 2005, 01:04 PM
There is a book I read several yars ago (title escapes me) that was written by the captain of the Mariposa about her last round the world cruise -- I really enjoyed that one and learned a lot about what cruising once was

Believe you are thinking of "Nothing Can Go Wrong" by Captain Kilpack of the Mariposa, and co-authored by John D. MacDonald, who, along with his wife, was along on this final world journey of the Mariposa. They alternate chapters and for anyone who loves to cruise this book is priceless. So very funny and so very true---we will all recognize ourselves and fellow passengers in the people on board this trip.

It is out of print now, but if you can find it anywhere, buy it. It's a wonderful read.

Janet

DFD1
February 22nd, 2005, 01:04 PM
Turbey/Lane: When you mention the book on the history of Cunard, are you referring to the book "Cunarder" by Stephen Card, mentioned in Doug's post above in this thread, or to another book on Cunard history?

The reason I ask is that I just found "Cunarder" by Stephen Card available thru the American distributor for Carmania Press and was about to buy it until I read your post.

Thanks for the clarification. DFD

Rosarymb
February 22nd, 2005, 01:42 PM
I started reading when I was 3, and I have a BA in English; so believe me when I say I've read thousands and thousands of books over the years. One of the best fiction books I have ever read was HMS Ulysses by Alistair MacLean. Not a cruise ship, per se, but I wonderful story of men and the sea (Merchant Marine, WWII). It's one of those books you never forget; you carry the characters around with you for days afterwards...I can also recommend his book "The Golden Rendezvous," which is about a cruise ship hijacking set in the 50's.

The 2 best non-fiction books I've ever read about a cruise ship were "A Night to Remember" by Walter Lord and "Her Name, Titanic" by Charles Pellegrino. There was a recent book out about the Lusitania, but it was horribly boring....

WillK
February 22nd, 2005, 02:05 PM
Carnival2523- "125 Years Of Holland America Line" is available at alibris.com. Fairly pricey, you might try having a local book store do a "search". They can often meet or beat the alibris price.

DFD1
February 22nd, 2005, 02:21 PM
Sail & Others: "125 Years of Holland America Line", according to worldshipsociety.org/publications is still in print and available thru most reputable maritime booksellers. It is not available from the society bookstore.

There is a Pentland Press Ltd. website which morphs over into a sight for book research and ordering.

I am going to try and find it from some on-line booksellers or one or two maritime book sellers in New England.

Bookish Angel
February 22nd, 2005, 05:39 PM
Carnival2523- "125 Years Of Holland America Line" is available at alibris.com. Fairly pricey, you might try having a local book store do a "search". They can often meet or beat the alibris price.

www.loganberry.com and www.half.com. You might try ebay as well.

cru1s1ng
February 22nd, 2005, 07:08 PM
Believe you are thinking of "Nothing Can Go Wrong" by Captain Kilpack of the Mariposa, and co-authored by John D. MacDonald, who, along with his wife, was along on this final world journey of the Mariposa. They alternate chapters and for anyone who loves to cruise this book is priceless. So very funny and so very true---we will all recognize ourselves and fellow passengers in the people on board this trip.

It is out of print now, but if you can find it anywhere, buy it. It's a wonderful read.

Janet

Good thread.

Thanks for the tip. I've been looking for a couple books to take on my 3/31/05 maasdam cruise. I ordered one from Amazon.com they have a few copies.

arzz
February 22nd, 2005, 08:05 PM
Thank you Jan 7487 that is exactly the book I was referring to -- I borrowed it from the library several years ago -- though it is out of print one can always try the local lending library

arzz
February 22nd, 2005, 11:57 PM
What amazon.com has are links to used book suppliers who can send you a used copy (Nothing can go Wrong) for very a very reasonable price. Just found a hard cover copy for $8 including shipping. I was delighted so that I will be able to own this book myself.

trubey
February 23rd, 2005, 11:01 AM
Turbey/Lane: When you mention the book on the history of Cunard, are you referring to the book "Cunarder" by Stephen Card, mentioned in Doug's post above in this thread, or to another book on Cunard history?

The reason I ask is that I just found "Cunarder" by Stephen Card available thru the American distributor for Carmania Press and was about to buy it until I read your post.

Thanks for the clarification. DFD

I think it was this: It's a W. W. Norton publication, but I never saw the finished book. I did a google for: Cunard Norton This is an Amazon listing.

Lane

QE2: The Cunard Line Flagship, Queen Elizabeth II
by Ronald W. Warwick (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/index=books&field-author=Ronald%20W.%20Warwick/102-5879704-6000116) "The maritime heritage that gave birth to the Queen Elizabeth 2 stretches back over a period of nearly a century and a half and involves..."

jan7487
February 23rd, 2005, 12:58 PM
I'm so glad you've been able to find copies . I truly can't imagine anyone who loves to cruise not enjoying this book.

Janet

Iggipolka
February 23rd, 2005, 02:18 PM
I love this book and the title "An Embarassment of Mangoes: A Caribbean Interlude" by Ann Vanderhoof.
It's about a couple who save up for 5 years, to take 2 years and sail from Canada to the Caribbean on their own private boat. It's a true story about their journey and it is wonderful! It's such a great escape from every day life to read about being in the warm Caribbean..it must have been absolutely wonderful to actually experience dropping out of this day to day mess and just sail away.

dougnewmanatsea
February 23rd, 2005, 02:45 PM
I think it was this: It's a W. W. Norton publication, but I never saw the finished book. I did a google for: Cunard Norton This is an Amazon listing.
I would probably agree that Commodore Warwick's book could be considered a little "dry" - it's a detailed history of QE2, pure and simple. Personally I like this sort of thing, but it's not something most people would like to sit down and read cover to cover.

"Cunarder" is a fantastic book - the paintings alone make it well worth the price, and the text is the icing on the cake. For those who aren't big Cunard fans, wait for the HAL version that is going to be forthcoming - I am sure it will be a book that every HAL fan should own. For those who love all of Stephen's paintings on the HAL fleet, you will now be able to have your own copy of each and every one :) !

WillK
February 23rd, 2005, 08:01 PM
"Selling the Sea" by Bob Dickinson (Carnival Corp) is an interesting "behind the scences" look at how the cruise industry operates. I like details and this book is full of them.

trubey
February 24th, 2005, 10:04 AM
[QUOTE=Host Doug]I would probably agree that Commodore Warwick's book could be considered a little "dry" - it's a detailed history of QE2, pure and simple. Personally I like this sort of thing, but it's not something most people would like to sit down and read cover to cover.

For those who aren't big Cunard fans, wait for the HAL version that is going to be forthcoming - I am sure it will be a book that every HAL fan should own.QUOTE]

You optimist, you!

The best thing about that Warwick book was that after I comped it some jerk in the production department hit a few too many keys and changed every single reference to 'Queen Mary' (mostly in the photo caps) to 'Queen Elizabeth', ho ho ho.

I got it back with a nice apologetic note and the original ms., I fixed it and sent it back again with a nice bill for an additional $1100. I love Quark.

Lane

cactuslady
February 24th, 2005, 11:19 AM
#1 -- The Odyssey, by Homer. The only book that has fantasy islands better than HMC.

#2 -- Steaming to Bamboola, by Christopher Buckley (son of William F.). About tramp steamers.

There's also Jack London's Voyage of the Snark, which is a great book about how not to cruise.

SueOverend
February 24th, 2005, 04:58 PM
If I were not upon the sea (under the captain's table) - by Joyce Adamadis.

A great read, particularly after meeting Joyce and her husband Captain Adamidis (Celebrity Cruises). If you ever sail Celebrity, you can buy her book in the shops on board. Highly recommend.

Sue