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IndyEmily
September 20th, 2011, 08:04 AM
My DH and I are rebooking our Alaskan cruise that we had to cancel (we should be on the ship right now :(). We have never sailed on HAL before, but when we were planning our trip before, I remember someone telling me about the rails on the balconies and one being clear and the other being solid.

We are looking to book the Zuiderdam and I want to make sure we book a balcony with the clear railings. Can you please tell me what category of room I need to book to ensure that? I believe it was VD and higher?

Thanks!

jtl513
September 20th, 2011, 11:33 AM
The ones with the steel-wall railing are 4001 to 4042, so any cabin number higher than 4042 will have the plexiglas.

Hobbsey
September 20th, 2011, 11:36 AM
Any catagory higher than VF will get you what you want. What ship?

jtl513
September 20th, 2011, 11:43 AM
Any catagory higher than VF will get you what you want. What ship?Deck 5 VF are okay. That's why I said "higher than 4042". She said the Zuiderdam.

Sea42
September 20th, 2011, 11:52 AM
This link might help you. It has very helpful cabin info.
http://joanjett2000.topcities.com/HAL/Zuiderdam/index.html
A frequent poster, Joanie, has compiled this site. I'm sure she would have chimed in here to help out but she's currently enjoying Alaska!

Hobbsey
September 20th, 2011, 12:14 PM
Deck 5 VF are okay. That's why I said "higher than 4042". She said the Zuiderdam.

Ahh, thanks JTL, my eyes went right over Zuiderdam, even when I went back to read it again - time for that neural exam.

I'd forgotten that there are VF's on deck 5. Thanks.

to OP, note that VD cabins 4164 and 4166 have extra long balconies. Also note that all V cabins on deck 4 have wider balconies than on the other decks.

Good Luck.

jtl513
September 20th, 2011, 12:21 PM
Also note that all V cabins on deck 4 have wider balconies than on the other decks.You mean deeper. All VA to VF are 9 ft wide except a couple on the stern and the "special" 4164/4166.

Hobbsey
September 20th, 2011, 01:04 PM
You mean deeper. All VA to VF are 9 ft wide except a couple on the stern and the "special" 4164/4166.

Ya wanna play semantics?

width [wɪdθ]
n
1. the linear extent or measurement of something from side to side, usually being the shortest dimension or (for something fixed) the shortest horizontal dimension

depth (dpth)
n.
1. The condition or quality of being deep.
2.
a. The extent, measurement, or dimension downward, backward, or inward: dove to a depth of 30 feet; shelves with enough depth to store the large boxes.
b. The measurement or sense of distance from an observation point, such as linear perspective in painting.


When explaining something clearly regarding a two dimensional, flat, object (the floor of the balcony of the ship) then the longest measurement would be the length and the shortest measurement would be the width. The distance from the cabin to the railing could be called the depth as well but then one would need to enter a third dimension and provide the point of view (the cabin door outward or the railing inward).

We both said the same thing. However, to say that all are 9 feet "wide" when actually that is the measurement of length negates the measurement description one would need to make a calculation of either area (LxW) or volume (LxWxH) for the cubic veranda space in question.

jtl513
September 20th, 2011, 01:46 PM
width [wɪdθ]
n
1. the linear extent or measurement of something from side to side,

depth (dpth)
n.
b. The measurement or sense of distance from an observation point,

You said it! The room and balcony are 9 ft wide in the direction I usually observe them.

Boytjie
September 20th, 2011, 02:20 PM
When explaining something clearly regarding a two dimensional, flat, object (the floor of the balcony of the ship) then the longest measurement would be the length and the shortest measurement would be the width. The distance from the cabin to the railing could be called the depth as well but then one would need to enter a third dimension and provide the point of view (the cabin door outward or the railing inward).

We both said the same thing. However, to say that all are 9 feet "wide" when actually that is the measurement of length negates the measurement description one would need to make a calculation of either area (LxW) or volume (LxWxH) for the cubic veranda space in question.

But a balcony is three dimensional ;) The floor is two dimensional, yes...

So, when standing at the door looking out, there is depth to the railing and width from side to side. I never associate length with something like a balcony. JMHO