View Full Version : Live from Voyager Venice to Monte Carlo--Sept 29-Oct 10
RachelG
September 27th, 2011, 04:05 PM
Well, not actually live from the Voyager yet, but in transit to her. I thought I would get this set up while I have time sitting in the AC at DFW. We have a 3 hr layover as the closer connection time was just a little bit too close (45 min) for me. I like to start off a trip with as little stress as possible.
We are flying to Madrid on AA, then on to Venice on Iberia. This is the same route we took 2 years ago, and I prefer the Madrid airport over LHR. Son's upgrade came through at the last minute, so he is sitting with me in business.
Missy, the Maine Coon, apparently figured out something was up as she scratched my son hard on the hand this am--and she never scratches anyone. So he has 3 very large claw marks, separated pretty far apart as Maine Coons have huge paws. She probably knows she is going to be at the mercy of my husband for the next 2 weeks, so food and water may be sporatic. Poor girl.
I will make a good tour of Voyager after we board and try to note all the dry-dock upgrades. If anyone has specific questions, please ask and I will attempt to find the answers!
Threechicks
September 27th, 2011, 04:21 PM
Rachel, have a safe and comfortable trip. Looking forward to your reports. Elsie
poss
September 27th, 2011, 04:29 PM
Hi Rachel-- I'm glad you're posting. I've found your input very helpful on this board, plus I'm thinking maybe of booking Venice-Monte Carlo for next summer. I just looked at your itinerary and it's somewhat different from next year's; also "my" cruise would be on Mariner. (I guess we like the ships equally.) I wish that the some of your ports were on our cruise-- I like your itinerary better.
E.g. We've been to both Kotor and Korcula on a past Regent cruise, and while we liked Kotor, we absolutely loved Korcula. What a treat it'd be to see that town again!
I'd also love to visit Positano and Portofino. I'm glad next summer's itinerary includes Dubrovnik, but I have approximately zero interest in visiting Cannes, and I'm not chomping at the bit to visit Urbino. (Haven't really researched it yet though.)
So: I wish you a lovely cruise in every way, and I look forward to your reports. (Most readers seem to be more interested in what's what on the ship; I tend to be most interested in hearing about the ports/excursions.)
Bon Voyage!
Colonel(Ret.)Wes
September 27th, 2011, 05:08 PM
Rachel, Fair Winds and Following seas for a terrific Voyager sailing. Kudos to you for sharing the Voyager with you son and Kudos to him for his service, Hooah...or for him
Oorah!
Travelcat2
September 27th, 2011, 05:39 PM
Have a wonderful cruise. We'll be looking forward to each and every post:)
Two Happy Cruisers
September 27th, 2011, 06:21 PM
Wishing you and your son a wonderful cruise!
The weather in the Mediterranean should be nice right now. We were there mid-to-late April on the Mariner Rome to Istanbul cruise, and it was in the mid-70s. Just perfect!
We'll be seeing you on the January 6th Mariner cruise - thanks for your input!:)
Wendy The Wanderer
September 27th, 2011, 06:48 PM
Rachel, bon voyage, and I'm so happy you'll be posting! Can't wait. I would love to do a cruise that includes a focus on Italy. So I will be travelling vicariously with you.
jhp
September 27th, 2011, 07:13 PM
Rachel, hope you and your son have a wonderful time! I'm eager to hear about the Voyager, as I'm taking my family on in the spring. So glad your son got his upgrade, safe travels!
mimito4
September 27th, 2011, 07:34 PM
Rachel, safe AND FUN travels. I loved your first entry so if that's any indication of your reporting I can't wait for more.
OrpingtonT
September 28th, 2011, 02:40 AM
Rachel, you are a star to take up your vacation time with George to keep us fans in touch. Love to hear how he enjoys his first cruise for a long time. Paul & Eileen are on Voyager in 3 weeks time and they will be particularly interested in youe reactions to the uplift.
Get stuck into that veg curry!
gcmv
September 28th, 2011, 03:40 AM
I'm glad next summer's itinerary includes Dubrovnik, but I have approximately zero interest in visiting Cannes,
Hi poss,
I totally agree with you - just get a rental car an drive through the lovely landscape and visit nice little towns like Tourrettes sur Loup , Saint-Paul-de-Vence or Eze Village . These are my alltime-favourites ... :)
dvalentine823
September 28th, 2011, 09:22 AM
I am on Voyager on the next leg back of Monte Carlo to Athens starting on Oct 9th. So I will be looking forward to your posts!
RachelG
September 29th, 2011, 10:43 AM
Finally onboard. Our travels were without much problem though our Madric to Venice flight was delayed about an hour. Last trip, my husband and I had sprung for a water taxi to take us to the Hilton--costing 110 euro. This time, I thought we would try the Alilaguna water bus. Way cheaper at 12 euro per person. But takes much longer. Took 1 1/2 hr to get to the Hilton. Water taxi would probably be 30 min. To do over, I would spend the extra $ for the water taxi for this part of the journey. If you had 4 people, it really would be a no-brainer.
Hilton was great as usual--advantage being predictable plumbing and beds. We have learned our lesson in Europe, having ended up at some pretty dodgy places in the past. Yes, you pay more, but still worth it in my opinion. We did this part on our own rather than with Regent as transfers and hotel were less than the $300 pp credit that Regent gives.
Toured around St. Marks area this am on our own. I purchased the vaporetto passes and the alilaguna tickets ahead of time online--they give a discount for doing that. Very easy.
Took the alilaguna water bus from the Hilton to the port. Absolutely the best way as it is 6.50 pp if you purchase in advance (7pp if you do it at the time). Way better than the 65 euro we were charged for a water taxi last time, and only takes maybe 10 min.
Voyager is beautiful as always. Getting from the Alilaguna stop to the ship was a bit tricky as there was no sign or person there directing till you get right up to the terminal. But we figured it out. Those who did the Regent transfer were pretty unhappy, as they were on a big bus and had to wait a very long time in the sun. I was happy we did our own.
We have toured all around the ship. I can't see any difference in the carpet (supposedly all replaced), but the coffee connection is noticably larger (good). Everything looks very clean. The top deck has been refurbished, and there is now a croquet course, more golf and putting. It is really very impressive.
Toiletries in rooms are now L'Occitaine, but they also put out the generic Regent stuff as well. I supposed they are trying to get rid of it.
They actually served real French champagne on boarding (no lines there) and in our room on arrivall. It is Chateau Parquart, whatever that means (not a champagne expert), but it is authentic and from Reims. I thought it tasted fine.
Jamie Logan is CD. Haven't seen any other staff I know yet.
I was able to exchange one of our paid excursions that I had pre reserved for one to use the on board credit. Another is on wait list. Michael at the destination services desk was very helpful and understood what I was wanting.
tallship
September 29th, 2011, 11:34 AM
Thanks for the post. You are lucky to have Jamie as your CD.
Looking forward to reading your updates.
dvalentine823
September 29th, 2011, 01:59 PM
FThose who did the Regent transfer were pretty unhappy, as they were on a big bus and had to wait a very long time in the sun. I was happy we did our own.
Question for everyone. The other Regent cruise we did left from Vancouver. We paid for our hotel through Regent, and we were able to leave our luggage in the hotel room, and the Regent people picked it up and transported it to the ship without us being present. We then did some sight seeing and meandered onto the ship at our leisure.
On this cruise, we are staying in the Regent supplied hotel, Fairmont. We would like to do the same thing and tour Monte Carlo for at least half the day. Can you leave the luggage in the room and have Regent pick it up and deliver to the ship??
Threechicks
September 29th, 2011, 03:27 PM
Hi Rachel. Happy you have arrived on the ship. Thanks for suggesting that a water taxi in Venice from the airport to the hotel is the best way to go. There will be three of us when we go in May so feel that the taxi makes sense.
You are lucky to have Jamie and Dana for your cruise as they are only staying on the Voyager for the month and then transferring to the Navigator. Elsie
poss
September 29th, 2011, 03:29 PM
When we overnighted at the Fairmont in Monte Carlo (a pleasant hotel), there was a place that all Regent folks could leave their luggage-- in a little room or space near reception. We had breakfast and then had a very nice couple of hours touring the sites. I have no interest in being in MC/Monaco for any length of time, but we very much enjoyed 3-4 hours there.
RachelG
September 30th, 2011, 12:27 AM
Thanks, Poss, for answering that question as I sure didn't know the answer since we do our own hotels and transfers. Heard lots more complaining from the folks who did the Regent transfers from airport to hotel and hotel to ship yesterday. Long time waiting in the sun at the airport--not what you want when you have been travelling overnight. And lots of waiting yesterday as well. Fortunately we arrived at a totally different time than those on Regents transfers, so there was no line at all when we checked in on board. We just walked right on. They had the entertainers checking everyone in inside the terminal rather than on the ship, and I think that worked very smoothly.
Last pm, we had the block party. Everyone on our hall came out for wine with the stewardesses serving. Met one of the CC posters on our roll call who is just down the hall. Super nice lady. Several staff from the spa came around--very friendly and much more communicative and eager to get to know people than what I have experienced in the past. Jamie, Capt McNeill, and Frank Galczy came through as well. I have never sailed with Capt McNeill before, but he seems quite capable and is very nice.
Dinner in Prime 7. Excellent. We were able to get a table with my friends Ron and Sue who I sailed with last year at this time. They are so fun, and it was great to visit with them and have GE meet them. Tom, I had Dover Sole and a salty bread stick just for you. Everyone else had steaks which they said were good, but I was happy with my sole. GE was quite impressed with dinner and has already informed me he wants to do this every year. I also had the oyster rockefeller appetizer. Everyone else had salads--fine but I can get that anytime. Oysters were great.
Wine flowed freely!! We were offered to select off the premium list, but there was no pressure to do so. Since the complementary wine seemed fine (a chardonney and a zin, both from Calif), we stuck with those and were pleased.
After dinner, there was a singer in the horizon lounge. We went, but really not my type of thing. I think a lot of people were really tired from travel as the lounge was not full.
OrpingtonT
September 30th, 2011, 04:28 AM
Sounds like a good start. I have never met Jamie, but have followed his blog avidly. I used to correspond with him via the blog but recently his site won't accept my remarks. It says I should ensure JavaScript and cookies are enabled, which they are but his site still won't accept my comments. No matter.
As one who almost always takes Regent travel arrangements and transfers, the plight of those in Venice was worrying. No doubt once on board though they will relax into the comfort of Regent care.
Best wishes, Rachel, for a happy cruise.
RachelG
September 30th, 2011, 02:57 PM
Last night was in port, so we woke up to another beautiful day in Venice. Perfect sunny weather.
I contracted some sort of insomnia where I wake up at 5 am and can't go back to sleep. It is not jet lag because I don't feel the least bit sleepy or tired. But both GE and I woke at 5. SO---we went exercising. I walked/ran up on the top deck to a beautiful Venician sunrise. It was really great with all the old churches and towers in the foreground. He came up top for a while then went to the gym.
Afterward, we did laundry--new machines which are way easier to work and almost fool proof, but no timer on the washer. And at the same time, had breakfast in La Veranda.
While I said I couldn't see any difference in the carpet, I have to amend that. The carpeting in La Veranda really is beautiful and matches the china. Whoever did the decorating there had an excellent eye for style. And also the carpets in the stairways (actually properly called ladder ways on a ship according to GE) are noticeably newer. Also the carpet in our suite still seems to be "shedding" so I guess that is a sign of "new".
Also new, noted today, are really nice thick white terry cloth covers on the loungers by the pool. Apparently they change and wash these every day.
Our tour was the gondola ride as I have been to Venice before but never was able to do the gondolas. They take you by water bus to the St Marks stop where they divide you into groups of 6 for the gondolas. We had a great group--a couple from Ft. Worth who went to OSU and a couple from Toronto.
I should have realized from the appearance, but never had before, that gondolas are really just like canoes--very tippy. Our driver got a little annoyed if we moved at all as it caused the center of gravity in the gondola to shift. Anyway, it was fun and something I would definitely recommend and would do again.
Then we broke off from the group and went to the Correr Museum on our own. No people there at all--and outstanding art. I think better as far as art than the Doges Palace. We enjoyed it a lot.
Rode the vaporetto down the Grand Canal to Piazzale Roma, then took the "People Mover", the new mini-train transport system, to the entrance of the portl. Until this year, Regent had provided a shuttle bus from Piazzale Roma to the ship. Now Venice port authorities will not allow this at all. Apparently, they are trying to pay for their new transportation. So you have to pay 1 euro pp to ride the people mover to the entrance of the port where Regent has a shuttle. We actually walked from the port entrance as the shuttle was waiting for more people, and we arrived quicker than if we had taken the shuttle.
Lazy afternoon--lunch at pool grill, laid in sun and read books, mandatory lifeboat drill which now is done without the life jackets.
An amazing sailaway from Venice then the Captain's reception. This time held in the atrium and involved opera singing since this is a focus on opera cruise. I am not a big opera fan, but I thought it was nice. Captain introduced the heads of all the departments on the stairs--again nice and organized.
Dinner was in Signatures. My favorite restaurant. I was trying to be healthy so had the scallops, mushroom soup (big indulgence) and halibut. All perfect. GE had the caviar appetizer as he had announced that one of his goals on this trip was to try caviar. Fortunately, it was really good. Cheeses for dessert. Wine on offer was very good, a white sancerre from Loire, and a burgundy. Again no need to buy any other.
Another change I have noted. When you are at the computer, if you haven't done anything in a while, it asks you if you are still there rather than just logging you off. A good measure in my opinion.
Hambagahle
September 30th, 2011, 03:35 PM
Rachel - glad you had a good trip over and welcome to this side of the "pond".
Thanks for the info on the Alilaguna and Vaporetto tix by internet. I had no idea you could do this and it will come in handy the next time we go to Venice.
John McNeil is a GREAT captain. We sailed with him FLL to Monte Carlo two years ago. Lucky you!!
While you are on board can you see if you can find out what will happen when the Cordon Bleu contract runs out (and when it runs out?) with Signatures... nothing has been announced yet as far as I know.
Continue to enjoy the Voyager and keep the posts coming in!!
Gerry
Travelcat2
September 30th, 2011, 03:41 PM
The Voyager sounds like it is in great shape! Only 60 days and we'll be boarding the Voyager foro ur 21 night cruise.
Thank you for the lovely description of Venice. We will overnight there next April (also on the Voyager). That will be our first time Venice and I think I will book the gondola ride and will remember not to move:) Do you know what the typical tip is for the gondola "driver" (not sure what the proper name for this would be).
Looking forward to your next post.
poss
September 30th, 2011, 03:43 PM
Thanks for your continued posts, Rachel. They're of particular interest to me because I'm trying to decide whether to book Venice-Monte Carlo for next end of July/August (would prefer Sept. but too concerned abt hurricanes hereabouts to leave.)
One of my big questions is the whole Venice transportation "problem." We're not able anymore to do our own hauling. I'd probably book the Regent hotel/transfer given the special conditions of Venice, but the hotel they're using next year is the Continental; reviews on that hotel are anything but inviting. So I'm trying to understand what it'd be like for us to find a pleasant small hotel (or the Hilton or whatever) and go it ourselves. Thanks so much for all the detail about transportation, but I still don't see the whole picture as clearly as I wish I did. E.g., how far is it from where one picks up baggage in the airport to the water taxi? Is it much of a walk? Is it flat? And I assume that water taxi works only if one's hotel can be accessed directly by water? Likewise the trip from hotel to port. Is it quite simple to find and board the Alilaguna? Your mention of having a bit of trouble finding the ship gives me some pause. I don't at all mind asking questions (in my no Italian), hunting here and there, etc. But my husband tends to become uneasy if things don't go smoothly. I do wish that Regent used a better hotel (as it does, e.g. in Monte Carlo), but I guess they're trying to save money. As who of us isn't.
Again, thanks much for your help and those great details.
kihei228
September 30th, 2011, 05:32 PM
T.C.:
The word is 'gondolier' and try to get one who sings, hopefully like Bocelli. ;)
Travelcat2
September 30th, 2011, 06:02 PM
T.C.:
The word is 'gondolier' and try to get one who sings, hopefully like Bocelli. ;)
Thans much!:D
Responder
September 30th, 2011, 07:39 PM
T.C.:
The word is 'gondolier' and try to get one who sings, hopefully like Bocelli. ;)
If he sings like Bocelli, who will steer the boat? :D:D
RachelG
October 1st, 2011, 01:57 AM
Answers to a couple of questions:
I will try to poke around and find out about Signatures. Good question! And one I would like to know the answer to myself.
As far as tipping gondoliers, I actually didn't tip ours. And I don't think anyone in our group did either. When we got finished with the tour, there was a guy on the dock helping everyone out (6 people per gondola) and scooting you up off the landing area as it is pretty tippy also. The gondoolier wasn't where you could give him any tip--he was still on the back of the gondola keeping it balanced. But he didn't look like he expected one at all.
Ours didn't sing, and actually I didn't hear any singing from the ones we passed. A friend of mine who has been to Venice previously said that theirs offered to sing but it is an extra fee.
Poss, I will try to be clearer (HAHA). At the airport, there is a booth right to the left as soon as you come out of customs where you pick up your already purchased vaporreto passes. This is also where you can buy Alilaguna tickets if you have not prepurchased on line. If you have prepurchased on line, you exchange your voucher for the Alilaguna tickets at a booth at the pier.
You walk out of the airport and turn left, going down a paved covered sidewalk quiet a long ways. It is totally flat. You cross several streets. It is clearly signed, but I would say a 8-10 min walk if you are pulling luggage. You end up at the dock for the water taxi and the Alilaguna water bus--water taxis are closer than the Alilaguna. The guys at the water taxi or the Alilaguna will get your luggage on and off the boat, but you have to be fit enough to pull them the distance from the airport to the dock.
Yes, obviously, to use either of these options effectively, your hotel needs to accessable right from the water. We saw many poor people hauling luggage all over the streets of Venice and on the vaporetto (no help getting on and off these). I would really research the accessibility of the hotel before reserving.
The Hilton is right smack on the water--Alilaguna stop to front door of hotel is maybe 20 ft. And the bellman is right there and can help if you have trouble with the luggage there.
When you get to the port (quite large), it is a bit confusing as there is no signage where the Alilaguna lets you off. And I wasn't able to see our ship. But there was a lady there who pointed us in the right direction (no English, but I showed her our Regent luggage tags). Again quite a walk from the Alilaguna stop to the ship--probably about the same distance as the airport, but again is flat and paved.
The water taxis drop you at roughly the same spot, so they are not going to be any great advantage at the port. I think land taxis can drive right up to the ship, but land taxis can only take you from the airport to the port, not from any Venice hotels that I know of unless you could find a hotel directly by the Piazzale Roma. That might be a possibility if you could find a decent hotel there.
Entertainment last evening was the Swing Show. I went even though I had been before to see if it had changed at all. It had not, so was again disappointing, the problem being that there are only 2 swing dances or songs in the entire show. The rest is a bunch of modern dance which, while I am sure some people like, is not swing dance and not what I like at all. A lot of people left mid show.
OrpingtonT
October 1st, 2011, 03:03 AM
Responder.
Great sharp response. I think even Botticelli would have laughed at that one. :D
Poss.
To add a little to Rachel's comprehensive reply to the stuation at Marco Polo. Though the walk slong the short cut from the airport exit to the water taxi/ Alilaguna dock is as she described, there is also a free shuttle bus which we used on our return trip once. Running continually, it is only a 10 minute or so wait.
RachelG
October 2nd, 2011, 01:00 AM
Awoke to another glorious sunny day. Temps in the mid 80s by afternoon, but mostly very pleasant as the town is positioned to catch the breeze.
This is a tender port, and they really seem to now have their act together regarding getting everyone off on excursions efficiently. They have the theater entrances arranged with someone standing there to direct traffic, and you go in on way to the front to exchange your ticket. Sit down till your number is called, the exit from another way, so no crowding or people milling around. The later in the day tours met on the dock (my idea a couple of years ago--I am glad they employed it as it saves time).
Anyway, GE and I had an afternoon tour but wanted to do some exploring on our own. We were able to get on the first tender. Independents have to get a tender ticket in the theater too, but I think everyone who wanted on the first tender got on.
We walked all over, out of town a bit and along the beach. Korcula is so quiet and beautiful. One of my favorite places. We stopped for a lunch of pizza and salad. Pizza was outstanding, on a wood burning fire. GE had some Korcula beer, and I had a glass of the local wine, which wasn't bad.
Afternoon walking tour was just ok. Our guide was good, but it was hard to hear her at times due to other tour groups and some persistant musicians. We went in two churches and the museum. Some interesting paintings and a big coin collection. One of the churches has a picture of the Last Supper which features a bunny rabbit as the main course (hum?) complete with its head and ears still attached.
It was pretty hot after the tour and was 3 anyway (last tender at 4:30), so we headed back to play trivia. We did not win, but were in the top 4. If I had persisted with 2 of my answers, we would have won, but I allowed myself to be over ruled. Oh, well, today is another day.
Beautiful sail away on top deck. No formal party, so we made our own. Really so scenic it is impossible to describe.
Dinner was in CR and was outstanding. Carlos, my fav sommolier, greeted us with hugs. He is so great--knows his wine and jjust an outstanding person as well. This is probably my 5th cruise with him. He took good care of us in the wine dept. Food was great also.
The entertainment last evening was an opera singer from the UK--Fiona Jessica Wilson. Opera is really not my thing, but I thought we would give it a chance. Boy, am I glad we did. She was outstanding. Her redition of "Ave Maria" sent chills down my spine. GE said it almost made him cry, and he never cries at anything.
And she said this Spanish song about a baby dying that was in Spanish but was probably the single saddest song I have ever heard. But very beautiful.
All in all, a great day.
Tom, thanks for the tip about the shuttle bus at the Venice airport. That would have been good to know rather than having to lug our suitcase that distance.
Hambagahle
October 2nd, 2011, 05:07 AM
Posss -
A suggestion for a really nice hotel in Venice, on the Grand Canal. Palazzo Sant'Angelo, right at the vaporetto stop of the same name. We stayed there last year when we went to see the "Regata Storica". And were totally satisfied with everything, including the price. (I reviewed it on TA so you could check that). Water taxi from the Tronchetto where we parked our car to the hotel was €80. I would think it would be about the same to the Cruise Terminal IF that is where you board. Quite a bit less if you board at the other little dock near the Zatterre.
Rachel - glad you are having such great weather. Hope it continues for you. And keep these grat posts coming!!
Colonel(Ret.)Wes
October 2nd, 2011, 07:20 AM
Here is CD, Jamie Logan's latest blog entry on Rachel's cruise:
http://www.sameshipdifferentday.com/2011/seven-seas-voyager-visits-marvelous-monemvasia-greece/
poss
October 2nd, 2011, 11:11 AM
Grazie mille, Rachel! And many thanks to Orp and Ham as well!
Palazzo Sant'Angelo looks like a fine place indeed. My taste doesn't run to those heavy reds and golds, but, hey, when in Venice....
Al Ponte Mocenigo also looks like a pleasant place-- plus no doubt there are ways to find availability at the Hilton as well.
I wish I knew which of the three might be more pleasant and more quiet. (We'd probably not get a canal view room, both because of the added expense and bec. I suspect they'd be somewhat more noisy.)
Thanks again for all the help. And, Rachel, Im so happy that the weather gods and all others are smiling upon you.
TedC
October 2nd, 2011, 11:47 AM
If he sings like Bocelli, who will steer the boat? :D:D
As my grandson Callaghan, then 6. told his first grade teacher when she told him he couldn't listen to her instructions and talk to his friends at same time:
"My Dad taught me to multitask!"
RachelG
October 3rd, 2011, 01:57 AM
Another perfect sunny day with temps in the mid 80s.
This was a port where we were actually docked. We had a good time watching the entertainment as a local dog "helped" the dock workers tie up the ship. He was very cute and funny, and the guys who were working were nice to him.
Off the ship for our 4x4 drive right on time. The pier is pretty long here, so they had a shuttle bus to take you to the end. Then we went a short ways on another bus to get our 4x4's which held 4 people with one being the driver. You were supposed to bring your driver's license if you were going to drive, but the guys never checked them. I guess it would only be a problem if you had a wreck.
There were 13 4x4s in our convoy. We went way up up up in the hills on little tiny roads that in the US would be one lane. Great fun if you met someone. GE was driving and did a great job. We made a couple of stops for pics and then a snack which was pretty substantial--tomatoes, cucumbers, feta cheese, local sausages, bread, homemade olive oil, homemade red wine, and for those not driving ouzo.
We made it back to the pier about 1 1/2 hrs before we had to embark, but it was really hot by then. We tried to get a taxi to take us to old town, but none of the drivers seemed to want such a short fare, and we didn't have enough time to walk there and back and eat.
So we ate lunch on the pool deck. Taxi drivers loss--if I were one, I would snag every fare I could.
Trivia was outstanding--we were victorious this time. Even though I let myself be talked out of one correct answer, and I talked the others out of another.
Dinner in CR. I had my veggie curry--great as usual. Quick service for our table for 6 as we wanted to see Cirque Voyager.
Cirque Voyager was totally different than the Cirque Navigator show, and way better. They got rid of the silly story line, and mostly just performed the aerobatics. The girl in the specialty couple is strong as an ox--she could pick up her partner, and he has to out weigh her by at least 50 lbs. We enjoyed it very much.
Couple of observations--cigarette smoke: only place I have smelled any is down by the Voyager Lounge, casino and cigar room, and it always smells there. Then up one floor in the stairwell. Computer room and Prime 7 are fine.
Vibration seems to be significantly less than before. Some people have complained about it who have suites toward the rear of the ship. All I can say is they don't have anything to compare it too. It is definitely less in Signatures and the Horizon Lounge than it used to be. I would consider one of the Horizon suites now, though I think my husband would still be annoyed by it.
OrpingtonT
October 3rd, 2011, 02:34 AM
That sounded like a fun day. Topped with veggie cury too. You made two very interesting notes which occupy a lot of first time cruisers thoughts and I hope they will be reassured about the cigarette smoke and the vibration.
For me, on a similar time zone, it is great to get up in the morning, switch on the computer, make a cup of coffee and read your posts before my daily chores begin. Thanks for taking the time to write.
poss
October 3rd, 2011, 08:13 AM
Wonderful, Rachel! Continued thanks and good wishes.
Hambagahle
October 3rd, 2011, 09:05 AM
Poss -
when we stayed at the Sant'Angelo we took a room with "garden" view, in the back. it was totally quiet. AND the AC was very good. No noise at all. Plus they kindly upgraded us to a Junior Suite. (Reds and golds aren't my thing either - we have Scandinavian at home! - but as you say, when in Venice...
Rachel - I am SO glad they dropped that stuid story with le Cirque and focus on the acrobats. It would make all the difference in the world. As you said it does. Too bad about the vibration, but a ship is a ship and it moves. Or at least, you hope it does! Keep enjoying your cruise!! And your curries!!
poss
October 3rd, 2011, 06:43 PM
Ah, I've never met a complimentary upgrade that I didn't love. Did you happen to see any of the "ordinary" rooms? I wonder if some of them might look onto the "garden." (Why in quotes? not really a garden? Actually I scarcely care what the view is so long as it's not unpleasant AND so long as the room is quiet.) I've been reading reviews and looking at the website-- looks like a very pleasant hotel. Btw, did you book directly? I know that so many people book through Expedia or whatever, but I never have.
IMPT. QUESTION: Is it ok for me to be asking all these questions on Rachel's post? I will cease and desist if it's inappropriate; just say the word anyone.
Meanwhile, thank you.
Colonel(Ret.)Wes
October 3rd, 2011, 06:47 PM
Gerry, just heard from Mark Conroy reference Signatures, pls see below:
Yes Signatures will stay French with a redesigned menu.
Mark
Mark S. Conroy │ President
Regent Seven Seas Cruises │ 1000 Corporate Drive, Suite 500, Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33334
poss
October 3rd, 2011, 08:00 PM
Rachel: If you have info., I'd love to hear what others may have enjoyed on Corfu. And glad you enjoyed your choice.
Wes: Thank you. If it couldn't be terrific Asian cuisine, I'm happy that it's staying French.
Travelcat2
October 3rd, 2011, 08:35 PM
Really wish Mark Conroy would post on CC instead of people posting for him. However, if the poster is correct, it sounds as if Le Condon Bleu does not own the name "Signatures" and the restaurant can continue after the contract runs out as long as the menu is not the same. It is sad to see the wonderful Le Condon Bleu classes disappear. They were truly memorable.
Colonel(Ret.)Wes
October 3rd, 2011, 08:46 PM
Poss, your very welcome. We very much enjoy Signatures and hope to dine there more than once during our Dubai-Athens cruise
next March.
Wendy The Wanderer
October 3rd, 2011, 09:19 PM
What has happened to improve the aft vibration?
cruiseej
October 3rd, 2011, 11:47 PM
Really wish Mark Conroy would post on CC instead of people posting for him...
What difference does it make? We're still getting word from the man at the top. (You may not intend it this way, but it comes off sounding like you're annoyed because Col. Wes has an inside line to Mark Conroy.) If he posted here, people would reply, ask questions, make suggestions, offer complaints, etc. -- he could use up half of each day responding to the issues that come up on this forum! And people would complain when he, inevitably, didn't reply to every issue.
Conroy's not the only chief executive who sometimes answers questions indirectly. Former Apple CEO Steve Jobs was famous for sometimes replying to emails from the public, usually in one line replies, which he and the company obviously knew would get passed on to and posted on websites which follow Apple in the same close way this forum follows Regent.
it sounds as if Le Condon Bleu does not own the name "Signatures" and the restaurant can continue after the contract runs out as long as the menu is not the same.
That may be, but I'm not sure Conroy's response makes that conclusive. "Yes Signatures will stay French with a redesigned menu" could mean that "the current Signatures restaurants will stay French with a redesigned menu" -- which leaves open whether the name will change or not. It would obviously save Regent some money not to have to change many things large and small on all the ships by retaining the name; on the other hand, they might want to signify a change and new beginning by changing the name. But the main thing anyone wanted to know is what type of restaurant there will be onboard, and now we have an answer; the name really isn't important whether its retained or changed.
-- Eric
Travelcat2
October 4th, 2011, 12:53 AM
I really don't care if Wes or anyone else has inside information. One problem that I have seen on the boards for the last six months has been information reportedly said by Mark Conroy that was not accurate. Months ago, "Dreps" posted that, per Mark Conroy, Gold and above would be able to make dining and excursion reservations even if they are not in a concierge class suite.
Last week Wes posted that, per Mark Conroy, the big announcement would be the first week of October. A few posts later, Wes said that, per Mark Conroy, the big announcement would be Sunday, October 16th.
It is certainly possible that these posters have spoken and/or received emails from Mr. Conroy. However, until the information is released publically by Regent (or Mr. Conroy or their Public Relations representative), it is merely heresay.
My frustration is with all of the heresay, quotes and other misinformation. The latest rumor is that the announcement will be this Wednesday. I understand that it is difficult to keep information to yourself when you believe it to be true. However, when I have heard information from management or officers on board the ship, I state that this is something I heard and do not name the person I heard it from. Some things I have heard have come to pass -- others have not.
In terms of Signatures, Mark Conroy reportedly said that the contract with Le Cordon Bleu was ending and the name "Signatures" can no longer be used (said during a meeting on board the Mariner in March). There was also a lot of talk on the boards about what type of restaurant would replace Signatures. When I read an official statement from Regent about Signatures it will go from rumor status to reality.
If Regent wants to make an announcement about any of the above items, I would think that they would do so (well, maybe.. . . . if they improve communication a bit). My issue has simply been posters repeating what Mark Conroy said and having the information be not quite what was posted.
Still looking forward to the big announcement on Wednesday. . . . or will it be Sunday the 16th. . . . or :confused:
P.S. Do you remember when Mark Conroy posted occasionally on CC? It would take him the same amount of time to post a one liner on CC as it would be to respond to an email.
RachelG
October 4th, 2011, 01:42 AM
Again, perfect sunny warm but not hot day. Awoke as we were anchoring in the harbor alongside a Silversea ship.
Quite a rough tender ride but not a long one. A few people looked a bit queasy.
I have been to Taormina before on a land trip and stayed just inside the Catania gate, so very familiar with the town. Thus I had a plan. We signed up for the Greek theater tour as this would get us into town. We followed along with the tour through town. Some accurate and some inaccurate info by the guide, but she was a nice lady. Then went into the Greek theater with the group and toured there. Then when she gave the offer of free time, we broke off and advised her we would get back to the ship on our own so they wouldn't be looking for us.
The Greek theater is very interesting, amazingly sited. Was redone for gladiator battles by the Romans. You can see Mt. Etna from the seats.
Apparently it erupted a few weeks ago during an opera performance. That would have been quite a sight.
We walked all over town on our own then up to the Saracen Fort ruins. This is the ruined fortress you see up on the hill above the town. A good hike. We get up there, and it is closed, but the views were still great. As we have found a lot in southern Europe, things close on no particular schedule. And it was Monday.
Hiked back down catching the breeze and stopping to take pics. We ate lunch at a pizza restaurant that I remembered from previous trip. Pizza was great as usual, but there were 2 screaming German kids at the table next to us. They obviously were just very tired, but their parents should have had enough sense to take them for a nap instead of trying to eat lunch in a sit down restaurant. (BTW, there are NO kids on the ship at all. GE and a couple of other girls about his age are the youngest, and that is mid 20s.)
Went to the public gardens and looked around, very pretty.
Took a taxi back to the port for 25 euro. Amazingly FAST drive!
Trivia--we lost by one point. Questions were too easy though. Almost everyone got most of them.
Repeat cruisers cocktail party in the theater. Not as many repeats as on most of the cruises I have been on. Lots of caviar and real champagne.
Dinner was with Michael, the cruise consultant. He is a pretty interesting guy. Also the chief concierge, a German lady, who is very nice and seems like she would be the one to go to to get things done.
Info gleaned at dinner: 2013 schedule will most ikely NOT be out on Oct 16. They are having some issues, so new date is first week of Nov (and that is hopefully).
Signatures may stay French, may be Italian (not sure why with La Veranda). Didn't discuss whether the name would stay the same or not.
New ship plans exist, but they will not pull the trigger to start building until the economy improves. They are expecting that might not happen for 2 more years. That is even though this year and last year were the 2 best years they have ever had. It will NOT have pods.
Wendy, I don't know what they did to lessen the vibration, but they apparently did something. They did some work on the pods, so don't know if that makes a difference.
Poss, we loved our 4x4 trip. Our friends went to the Acheillon Palace and downtown and enjoyed their tour. They said the guide was very interesting. Didn't talk to anyone on the biking tour. I had considered it, but it said it was mostly uphill. Hills in Corfu are pretty steep, so I chickened out. I can do a little hill on a bike, but I had a bad bike accident a few years back which has shyed me away from steep.
ChatKat in Ca.
October 4th, 2011, 01:56 AM
Poss,
We were in Corfu a couple years ago, and we loved walking around the old town - there were some narrow scenic alley ways and we found the old synagogue that was full of memorabilia from WW2. We took a tour that went to the Monastery/Church that was very beautiful.
Travelcat2
October 4th, 2011, 01:57 AM
Really enjoying your posts. Today's was a particular newsy one.
Have you noticed items on the Compass Rose menu from Prime 7 or Signatures? Not sure if that is suppose to occur this year or not. I'd love to see P-7 crab on the menu in CR one night.
Not too surprised to hear that the 2013 itineraries will be delayed. Just happy they will be out in the near future. It's never too early to book a cruise:)
OrpingtonT
October 4th, 2011, 02:33 AM
Gerry, just heard from Mark Conroy reference Signatures, pls see below:
Yes Signatures will stay French with a redesigned menu.
Mark
Mark S. Conroy │ President
Regent Seven Seas Cruises │ 1000 Corporate Drive, Suite 500, Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33334
That is a useful bit of information, Wes. I, at least, am grateful to you for passing it on. Thanks.
Colonel(Ret.)Wes
October 4th, 2011, 06:45 AM
Eric, +1..your very welcome Tom...warmest regards to Barbara..am sure u both are getting ready for your Mariner crossing next month. Poss, thanks for another robust
"seamail" if u have time pls pass Ida and my warm regards to Michael.
Threechicks
October 4th, 2011, 08:09 AM
Good report Rachel. My next cruise will have a lot of the same ports so I love hearing about your excursions. I agree that Michael, the cruise consultant, is an interesting guy - perhaps because he is a Canadian? I have met him on several cruises. Elsie
rallydave
October 4th, 2011, 08:27 AM
My frustration is with all of the heresay, quotes and other misinformation. The latest rumor is that the announcement will be this Wednesday. I understand that it is difficult to keep information to yourself when you believe it to be true. However, when I have heard information from management or officers on board the ship, I state that this is something I heard and do not name the person I heard it from. Some things I have heard have come to pass -- others have not.
.
Still looking forward to the big announcement on Wednesday. . . . or will it be Sunday the 16th. . . . or :confused:
If you had carefully read what I wrote about Wednesday, you would not have written what you did that I quoted above. I'm the one who mentioned Wednesday and NOT that there would be any announcement. Wednesday is simply when the first Concierge cruise can be booked for non-concierge passengers and I stated that we should find out then about the 10% discount pricing at that time if the people who are on this board as well as onboard that cruise post what their pricing is for the extra cost excursions. Absolutely nothing has been posted about any announcement on Wednesday.
cruiseej
October 4th, 2011, 09:12 AM
One problem that I have seen on the boards for the last six months has been information reportedly said by Mark Conroy that was not accurate. Months ago, "Dreps" posted that, per Mark Conroy, Gold and above would be able to make dining and excursion reservations even if they are not in a concierge class suite.
It is certainly possible that these posters have spoken and/or received emails from Mr. Conroy. However, until the information is released publically by Regent (or Mr. Conroy or their Public Relations representative), it is merely heresay.
My frustration is with all of the heresay, quotes and other misinformation.
Sorry, TC, but I don't see it the way you do. You label the information Dreps posted from Mark Conroy as "not accurate". You complain that the change didn't happen at a certain time, but the information he posted did not contain a timeframe. You assumed the changes in the SSS program had to occur by the time the first concierge cruises opened for excursion booking, but that wasn't part of what Dreps posted from Mark Conroy.
In fact, all the indications -- a leading Regent travel agent reports on what Regent announced at a conference of travel agents; SSS Gold-level customers booked on upcoming cruises report Regent is making changes in the website pushing their booking dates earlier -- are that the promised changes are soon to come to fruition.
It's certainly your right to remain skeptical until Regent formally announces/makes changes. However, I find your labeling of postings from CC members who have received emails from Mark Conroy as "hearsay" to be insulting. They're not saying they heard from a friend whose travel agent reportedly heard from someone at Regent about a change; that would be hearsay. But someone who writes to the CEO and gets an email reply from the CEO, which they helpfully post here to quell concerns or answer questions we've been discussing, is not hearsay. When you repeatedly call it hearsay, and repeatedly say "reportedly said by Mark Conroy", you are accusing the posters of fabricating the emails they've received. In my opinion, that is uncalled for and distasteful.
Do you remember when Mark Conroy posted occasionally on CC? It would take him the same amount of time to post a one liner on CC as it would be to respond to an email.
Not really. As I noted in my previous post on this subject, people would reply to his one line posts -- and expect him to respond to answer, justify, explain, etc. If he didn't reply, the cries would grow louder. It puts him in a no-win situation; spend more and more time replying, because he is seen as open and accessible, or receive grief over his failure to reply to questions and challenges posted to him. As I noted other CEOs have done, he has chosen to occasionally provide information to a customer, knowing it will be passed on here without him having to reply directly to every follow-up post.
Finally, my apologies to Rachel for jumping into this thread of her informative sea reports to debate these Regent policy issues; I'll now bow out of discussing those issues in this thread.
-- Eric
rallydave
October 4th, 2011, 09:20 AM
Well said Eric +1
Wendy The Wanderer
October 4th, 2011, 09:38 AM
Rachel, thanks for the wonderful reports, keep them coming, and have a wonderful time!
(And to others: can we keep the carping and bickering out of this thread please?)
Travelcat2
October 4th, 2011, 10:01 AM
Rachael's postings are so refreshing. and I do wonder why this thread was used to post Mark Conroy musings. I love that the "new" restaurant is being talked about on the Voyager as well as the possibility of a new ship and the delay of 2013 itineraries. I appreciate Rachael's open and honest postings and,of course the detail of the ship, food, service and the ports she visits.
Hope my postings from the Middle East can be half as good as Rachael's. The key seems to be ignoring posts that encourage bickering. I should have done that with cruiseej posts. Sorry that this thread got off track. It's back on now.
Wendy The Wanderer
October 4th, 2011, 07:26 PM
I can't wait to hear about Monemvasia. I just saw a posting on Facebook that you're there today. That's a place I've always wanted to visit. I got reasonably close, Napflion, but didn't make it that far west. I love the Peloponnese, I'd love to go back there.
RachelG
October 5th, 2011, 01:54 AM
Not in Monemvasia--sorry Wendy, that must be Mariner. Jamie Logan was there on the cruise prior to this one, but it is not on our itinerary. Too bad, as it sounds very interesting.
Anyway, Sorrento--yet another beautiful sunny warm day. A tender port, but in a lovely location. And yet again beside Silversea Silver Spirit.
We tendered off to catch a little bus to take us up to a bigger bus for our tour. Sorrento is built on a cliff, so regular busses can't go down to the dock. Regent had a shuttle running all day for those who were on their own, as they also did in Corfu. Or there are stairs if you are really energetic. It would be quite a climb.
Our tour took us to 2 villas that were destroyed the same time as Pompeii. I chose this because I had been to both Pompeii and Capri before. And GE said I could pick.
The villas, particularly the 2nd, Villa San Marco, are very impressive. Larger than any buildings at Pompeii (San Marco is 16,000 sq feet) and still being excavated. They have a lot more of the frescoes and mosaics intact than Pompeii, and they are in very good condition. Our guide there was a very earnest young American girl who is excavating, so she has a lot of knowledge but doesn't really know how to move the group along. However, I definitely rec going there.
Then we went to the Sorrentino winery which is on the side of Mt Vesuvius. This is a family run commercial winery. The owner (father) showed us around. He is clearly very proud of his operation, as he should be. Beautiful vineyards, and we got to taste the grapes. Then inside where we had a 4 course meal made by his wine accompanied by wines from the vineyard for all 4 courses. Bruschetta and fresh olives 1st, then pasta with roasted zucchini, then eggplant parmesan with roasted tomatoes and fresh cheese, finally dessert which was an apricot tarte. All produce was from their farm and so good because so fresh.
Back to the ship just in time for trivia. Again lost by 1 point. GRRR.
The evening was spectacular. They had turned the pool deck and jogging track into a mini-Venice complete with a gondola and a bridge made by the engineering guys. Lots of singing by the opera people on board, but they sang more than opera. A mask parade by the staff. Lots of people wearing masks. I was a cat and GE was a Roman soldier. Our masks were among the best I think as they really were from Venice. I am actually going to use them later in a decorating project at home, so was able to spend a bit more on the purchase.
Food was mostly Italian, with a big antipasto station like La Veranda, a pasta station (freshly made), a salad station, guys grilling all different meats, a whole roast pig, Italian cured meats. And sushi! Lots of different desserts.
Sorrento was in the background with a beautiful sunset. Couldn't ask for a more perfect evening. This was one where you just have to think how truly blessed you are to be able to be healthy and well-off enough to enjoy things like this, because it is truly special.
In answer to TC's ? about the menu in CR, there is one item from Prime 7 and one from Signatures under the main courses every night. This is in addition to what they already had on offer. So there are essentially 2 extra choices for your main.
I have also noticed an extra under the appetizers at times, so 1 more appetizer choice most times.
No one should have trouble finding anything to eat.
Mjflowers
October 5th, 2011, 02:15 AM
Rachel, thanks for the wonderful reports, keep them coming, and have a wonderful time!
(And to others: can we keep the carping and bickering out of this thread please?)
I don' think that is possible with any of these threads. Regardless of the original subject.
poss
October 5th, 2011, 09:56 AM
Thanks, Rachel!
Travelcat2
October 5th, 2011, 11:40 AM
Thanks for answering my question. It sounds as if the menu in CR is going to be wonderful. We are so looking forward to being on the Voyager next month:)
MotuIslander
October 5th, 2011, 11:53 AM
Yes, thanks SO much Rachel!
Unlike TC, we have 242 days to wait (who's counting) for our first sailing on the Voyager after being an RSSC groupie for ten years. We really appreciate your postings from the ship!
Lovesatq
October 5th, 2011, 05:31 PM
Rachel..enjoying your post especially since we'll be visiting some the same ports in June. When we met last (British Isles) I was cruising with my daughter and this next time I convinced my hubby. I've been reading your post to him in order for him to get more excited about the trip. Sounds like you're having a fantastic time.
RachelG
October 6th, 2011, 01:52 AM
Lovesatq, glad to hear from you, and happy to be of service in helping get your husband excited about the trip. It really is great.
Another bright sunny warm day--they have all been great so far, but our guide today says they get over 300 days of sun here per year, so I guess it is the norm.
We had just slowly meandered down to Amalfi during the night since it is only 24 miles from Sorrento. Beautiful views from the ship. And another tender port, but only a short ride.
We took the boat excursion to Positano and back. The guide gave us a little commentary in Positano and in Amalfi, but mostly we were on our own, which is what we often like. Hiked up to the top of Positano and back down, looking in some shops and just wandering. I had spent a week here several years ago, so am familiar with the stairways and streets. They wind all over, so you sometimes don't end up where you think you are going. But it is a hauntingly beautiful place.
Then lunch in Amalfi on our own. We went up to the paper museum where they show old paper making out of linen and cotten. They still make some, and it is an excellent gift for people at home as it is very unique, easy to pack, and not expensive. We also bought lemoncello, being very careful to get properly sealed bottles.
Went back to the ship at about 3:30 as we were all walked out. And besides, we had to get ready for trivia. It was a terrible defeat at the regular game, but then they had opera trivia. I only knew 2 answers which I think was about average, but we had recruited a ringer--a British lady who knew tons about opera. And we won! Again, not through much help of mine though I did know one question that she didn't.
Had the gold, plat, titanium event which was a sailaway cocktail party in the balcony off Horizons. Nothing special except it was a pretty sailaway, and it was nice talking to others. We didn't stay long because we wanted to catch the first part of Crew Capers which was held tonight because of the long days the next 2 days. Great as usual.
Then we had cocktails in the Observation Lounge with our TA's son and daughter-in-law and several others who use the same TA. Very fun.
Tonight at dinner in CR, I tried the steak from P7 just to see how it would turn out in CR. It was great, every bit as good as in P7, so they are able to maintain the quality.
Skipped the show as we were really tired from all the partying. GE says cruising is strenuous work, and he is right. Only for the fit, or at least fit at heart.
Some lady won $6000 playing the slots in the casino.
Hambagahle
October 6th, 2011, 10:06 AM
Thanks, Wes for the info from Mark...
I am very glad Signatures will (a) stay Signatures and (b) stay French as long as it is proper French cuisine and not some "fusion"...
I think it complements Prime 7 very well. And I really thought that Latitudes was a restaurant in search of an identity all its existence. So French, for me anyway, is good news!! I suppose the only one thing better would have been to persuade Vineet Bhatia to open a Rasoļ on board!!
Hambagahle
October 6th, 2011, 10:14 AM
WOW! Rachel - what an evening. And how lovely... when you first (some time ago) mentioned the masks I thought - oh no!. But now "all is revealed it really sounds like an incredible evening. All that trouble to make the gondola etc. You must have some great photos of this event? if so can you share them with us all?
A note to Jackie: When I said that Mark Conroy told me that the announcement about the new benefits would be made in a "few days" - he did. He has my e mail address and I have his. I believe I said at the time or shortly afterwards that I didn't think the timing of it would be his decision... But maybe now he has told Wes a specific date it will be "for real". As we say here - on verra!
poss
October 6th, 2011, 11:38 AM
Rachel: Your posts are so winning in every way. I wish that $6,000 were yours!
Hambagahle: Sant' Angelo looks like a terrific place, but Al Ponte Mocenigo (#1 on Trip Advisor:can't remember the exact name) is about half the cost, so I think we'll book Al Ponte. Or: I need to find some slots.
Colonel(Ret.)Wes
October 7th, 2011, 06:51 AM
wonderful pix of the Voyager's celebration--GRAND VENETIAN BARBECUE AND MASQUERADE
on Rache's cruise...link here:
http://www.sameshipdifferentday.com/2011/it-was-a-grand-night-to-remember/
OrpingtonT
October 7th, 2011, 07:08 AM
That seemed to be a wonderful evening in an Italian sunset on a superb cruise ship. I have been looking hard for a cat and a Roman soldier mask but without success. When you've seen the pics, Rachel, please tell me if you are in them and where you are.
RachelG
October 7th, 2011, 08:20 AM
Nope, Tom, not in any of those pics. They had tables set up on the jogging track up on deck 12, and that is where we were--best seats in the house in my opinion as it was a perfect warm night. We were able to see the show but also see the beautiful view of Sorrento. But Jamie's blog has some great pics of the event.
Another perfect, warm sunny day. I didn't really want to go into Rome, so had signed us up for the Countryside and Catacombs tour. Big mistake! We would have been better off just taking the train into Rome and doing our own thing. But if you look at the description of the tour on the Regent website, it sounds really nice, and it says nothing about riding around in a bus for 5 1/2 hrs of a 9 hr tour. I hardly ever complain, but this was a big disappointment. To be perfectly fair, the description that they give you after you board the ship did include all the stuff about driving, but I book ahead of time so didn't have that info. I have never had a problem with the tour driving time description on the website before, but now I will recheck once on board.
Anyway, we boarded a bus--34 for us--for the Catacombs. We drove on the freeway about 40 min then stopped at a truck stop--why?? Nobody needed to use the restroom that soon, and the Catacombs had perfectly good restrooms. The driver made everyone get off the bus, whether they wanted to or not. Spent 10 min looking at stuff in the truckstop, then reboarded for another 40 min.
Catacombs were interesting, but with only 1 guide for 34 people and having to go through single file, you didn't get any commentary unless you were at the front of the line. I had been to some similar ones before so was explaining stuff to those around me. Spent less than an hr at the Catacombs.
Back on the bus to Castel Gandolfo. This is where the Pope's summer residence is, and it is just a quiet little town. Not anything to see here except the exterior of the pope's residence, a pretty lake and a church. There was a wedding in the church, so that was my entertainment, esp when the driver of the Rolls Royce limo couldn't get it started and had to run for jumper cables. Otherwise nothing to do here unless you wanted to eat lunch (which was to be our next stop) or buy really cheap souveniers or pictures of the pope.
Our guide said it would be 15 min to the place where we were having lunch. We proceeded to drive, and drive, and drive. After about 45 min, the driver got lost. Had to stop for directions twice. Finally arrived at the "countryside" which was actually in the middle of the suburbs of Rome. We never got out in the country at all. Lunch was ok, but not outstanding. As it was 3:00 by the time we started eating, we were really hungry, so would have pretty much eaten anything.
Then we boarded the bus for a 2 hr ride back to the ship. When we arrived, all the crew were out to welcome us back on board, which would have been so nice except everyone was in a bad mood from our terrible tour.
I did make complaint to the tour desk and filled out a form. We will see if anything comes of it.
We had reservations in Signatures for 6:30. We got back at 6:30, and we weren't all that hungry, but we hated to waste our reservations. So we cleaned up really quickly and went down. Actually, the food was so good that I ended up eating more. Salmon was perfect, and my son had the steak topped with the world's largest portion of fois gras. No way he could finish. Wines were a white burgundy and a chateauneuf du pape.
Evening entertainment was the Broadway show, and it was good as usual. It is probably my favorite show (other than the new cirque voyager show).
Sorry for such a negative post. I will try to do better tomorrow.
poss
October 7th, 2011, 09:23 AM
Rachel, even your "negative" posts have a gentleness and humor about them-- and I thank you once more for all the valuable details. Do you happen to know whether any of the other non-Rome tours from Civ. were more enjoyable?
Btw, I'm not much of a meat eater usually, but I ordered the steak/foie gras at Signatures. Superb! (I also ordered foie gras again in CR. Each time felt "bad," but oh, so good!)
rarin2go
October 7th, 2011, 09:48 AM
.....didn't really want to go into Rome, so had signed us up for the Countryside and Catacombs tour. Big mistake! We would have been better off just taking the train into Rome and doing our own thing. But if you look at the description of the tour on the Regent website, it sounds really nice, and it says nothing about riding around in a bus for 5 1/2 hrs of a 9 hr tour. I hardly ever complain, but this was a big disappointment. To be perfectly fair, the description that they give you after you board the ship did include all the stuff about driving, but I book ahead of time so didn't have that info. I have never had a problem with the tour driving time description on the website before, but now I will recheck once on board.
Anyway, we boarded a bus--34 for us--for the Catacombs. We drove on the freeway about 40 min then stopped at a truck stop--why?? Nobody needed to use the restroom that soon, and the Catacombs had perfectly good restrooms. The driver made everyone get off the bus, whether they wanted to or not. Spent 10 min looking at stuff in the truckstop, then reboarded for another 40 min.
Catacombs were interesting, but with only 1 guide for 34 people and having to go through single file, you didn't get any commentary unless you were at the front of the line. I had been to some similar ones before so was explaining stuff to those around me. Spent less than an hr at the Catacombs.
Back on the bus to Castel Gandolfo. This is where the Pope's summer residence is, and it is just a quiet little town. Not anything to see here except the exterior of the pope's residence, a pretty lake and a church. There was a wedding in the church, so that was my entertainment, esp when the driver of the Rolls Royce limo couldn't get it started and had to run for jumper cables. Otherwise nothing to do here unless you wanted to eat lunch (which was to be our next stop) or buy really cheap souveniers or pictures of the pope.
Our guide said it would be 15 min to the place where we were having lunch. We proceeded to drive, and drive, and drive. After about 45 min, the driver got lost. Had to stop for directions twice. Finally arrived at the "countryside" which was actually in the middle of the suburbs of Rome. We never got out in the country at all. Lunch was ok, but not outstanding. As it was 3:00 by the time we started eating, we were really hungry, so would have pretty much eaten anything.
Then we boarded the bus for a 2 hr ride back to the ship. When we arrived, all the crew were out to welcome us back on board, which would have been so nice except everyone was in a bad mood from our terrible tour.
Funnily enough we ducked out of this tour at the last minute in favour of a relaxing day on-board the Mariner because it sounded like a lot of bus-riding to see not very much - now we're even more pleased we did so! ;)
Hambagahle
October 7th, 2011, 10:28 AM
Bus driver and/or Tour Guide most likely get 5% from the Autostrada stop on anything sold to the group. NOT a reason to do it and between Civitavecchia and Rome totally unnecesary. Glad you told the Tour Desk, Rachel. Someone's figers need rapping! This is not a "Regent" kind of thing to happen.
captn337
October 7th, 2011, 10:53 AM
Funnily enough we ducked out of this tour at the last minute in favour of a relaxing day on-board the Mariner because it sounded like a lot of bus-riding to see not very much - now we're even more pleased we did so! ;)
Mariner????
OrpingtonT
October 7th, 2011, 12:23 PM
Mariner????
From the signature it seems that rarin2go did a similar cruise on Mariner earlier this year.
RachelG
October 8th, 2011, 02:37 AM
Gerry, I got a note from the concierge saying they are looking into the situation on the tour, so we will see what happens.
The only other non-Rome tour offered was an Etruscan tour, and I haven't found anyone who went on it so can't comment.
Today we awoke to strong winds and heavy clouds. Looked like a storm any minute. I guess our luck as far as weather could only last so long. Also noticably cooler--jacket weather.
We had signed up for a cooking tour but found out last night that it was cancelled as not enough people had signed up. It was one with a pretty big surcharge (we were using our onboard credit), so that left us with no tour and a lot of money to spend.
After yesterday's fiasco, I was determined to make a better day happen. Turned out that there was availability on the biking tour of Lucca. I have been to Lucca previously, loved it, and saw the people riding bikes along the top of the wall. It looked like great fun, so we signed upl.
Fabulous tour--one of my favorites ever. Rode the bus into Lucca and picked up our bikes. Our excellent guide took us all over, along the top of the walls (which are wide, flat and have been turned into a city park lined with trees on both sides), all through the streets to several churches, Pucchini's birthplace and statue. Ride was 2 1/2 hrs but very easy and pleasant. Most of the city is pedestrian only so not much worries as far as traffic. The rain held off during our ride, but it was VERY windy.
Afterwards, we had an hour to look around town on our own. It started raining pretty hard, so we ducked into a cafe for an espresso. Fortunately rain only lasted about 15 minutes, so we were able to explore some more. I love Lucca--absolutely beautiful town.
Back to the ship to spend the afternoon in the spa. I had a great massage, with no attempts to sell me anything. Son had a gentleman's facial and haircut. The facial girl did sell him a bunch of skin care stuff, but he actually probably needs to use it. As she told him, he has great skin and hair, but obviously takes no effort to take care of it. So we used up our non refundable portion of our OBC.
Trivia--lost by one point. I knew the right answer but wasn't confident enough I guess.
Nice quiet dinner in CR. We got there before the rush as everyone who had been on tour in Florence arrived at about 8, so there were some lines for those passengers. We were able to be finished and out well ahead of the onslaught.
Didn't go to the evening entertainment as it was a pianist. I am sure he was excellent, but if I am going to listen to piano music, I would prefer to be in one of the lounges rather than at a formal concert.
Hambagahle
October 8th, 2011, 04:01 AM
Lucca IS wonderful! we often go there... and when we first went (1969) we drove our car up on the walls. That was allowed then. I don't ride bikes anymore but often walk those walls and envy the bikers! Didn't you love the glimpses into "secret gardens" as you rode along!! I can just see you, Rachel, with a smile from ear to ear, especially given the debacle in Rome. You are a lesson to us all in how to travel and how to deal with the bad and enjoy the good!!
I think you must be in Portofino today? Hope you enjoy that in spite of the chilly weather. Look forward to hearing about it!
Your posts have been terrific. Thank you for allowing us to come on the cruise by reading them.
Gerry
cruiseluv
October 8th, 2011, 08:31 AM
Rachel, thank you for all your commentary, enjoy your reports.
Frankly, the catacombs are my least favorite attraction in Rome. I think they're way overrated. The excursion sounded awful.
Glad you went back to Lucca and enjoyed its marvelous wall. One of my favorite places in Italy!
Threechicks
October 8th, 2011, 08:49 AM
Rachel, thank you for your delightful reports. I visited Lucca once on a Sunday and eventhough most places were closed it was a beautiful tour. I have wonderful photos of many of those great windows. Elsie
RachelG
October 8th, 2011, 11:36 AM
Posting a little early today as internet will shut down tonight.
Elsie, I love those windows in Lucca too--so much pretty stuff. And Gerry, I can't imagine driving a car on top of the walls. That would be pretty exciting, but I think I will just stick to bikes.
Portofino is just so beautiful. One of my favorite places anywhere in the world. We had a very bumpy night sailing here due to the wind. Not seasick, but a lot of motion. A little motion helps me sleep, but this was more than that.
However, the wind died down, and the cold air dissipated. SO another bright sunny warm day. I have been to Portofino before, and I had a plan for the day.
We disembarked by tender after all the tours left. We were the only people on the tender, which was very cool. Our own private boat.
We hiked up to the top of the mountain behind Portofino. Trails up are paved and very good condition with good trail maps. Then we went down to San Frutteoso. Trails on that side are rough, actually very rough. A couple of times we thought maybe we had lost the trail, but we would see the trail marking. So we pushed on. Eventually we got out along the coast enough to see we were on the right path. Hiked down to the cutest little village. Only way to get there is by sea or on foot--no roads. We had timed our trip so that we would be able to get the ferry back, and fortunately our timing was perfect.
Nice ferry ride back to Portofino. We checked out the interior of the church and hiked out to the lighthouse and back. Then lunch at a place that I had eaten at before. Unfortunately their pizza maker is off on Saturday, and they have great pizza. But we had some good pasta and salad instead.
We explored a little more, then went back to the ship for a nap to make up for the poor sleeping last night. Sad to say, but on our beds were those dreaded covers that say bon voyage. I just hate that. So had to pack.
Tonight we will have dinner with our friends in CR. Then off early in the am. We have one night in Nice before flying home, so will go to the Matisse and Chagall museums.
But I did innoculate myself against post cruise depression--booked another cruise! Next summer, son and I will be going to the Baltics. I was up for a 7 day cruise, but he has offered to pay for his own if we can do 10. I have another convert to Regent and travelling companion!! Hooray (or ooh rah as he would say.)
poss
October 8th, 2011, 01:02 PM
From another Lucca lover, many thanks for your wonderful posts and may these last days abroad and flight home all be good. (I love those 2 museums in Nice!)
I do so wish that our Venice-Monte Carlo cruise next July had your itinerary instead of the one they're doing. I've never been to Portofino, e.g., and with your description, I'm more interested than ever. I also wish that, like yourself, I'd booked on board, but at the time of our British Isles cruise, the concierge thing was bothering me too much. I've never had an OBC-- would be fun.
Your posts have been a joy, Rachel. Thank you ever so much.
TedC
October 8th, 2011, 01:46 PM
Chagall is buried at St. Paul de Vence and Matisse and wife are buried near his museum.
Hambagahle
October 8th, 2011, 02:58 PM
Rachel - I am SO So glad you went to San Fruttoso - isn't that little cove amazing? We were there two years ago for a wedding (in the little white chapel you must have passed as you hiked up from Portofino) and the reception was at Castello Brown, further up the hill, but the day before we all (80 of us) were treated to a boat ride from Rapallo to Camogli to Sestri with a stop at San Fruttoso. my Godson and some other "young" went swimming in the cove. Did you know there is a statue of Christ about 5m underwater - they dived down to see it. Some actually got deep enough to touch it!! (Serge didn't!) Anyway, they came back on board more than a bit wet. We went to the little chapel and walked around - and saw the path you took over from Portofino. What a great hike!!
Sorry about the packing... but hope you will enjoy a few days in the "Midi". AND also that you are not getting this very cold weather we have inteh alps! Your posts have been terrific. You wouldn't like to come on the 18th march TA with us, would you??
Gerry
OrpingtonT
October 8th, 2011, 03:20 PM
Over so soon. I shall miss your daily musings and your last report from Portofino was superb. Even at my fittest I cannot imagine undertaking that hike up and over from Portofino. When we went there, we ventured no further than the port and a visit to the five bays by boat. Enjoy your night in Nice and have a safe journey home.
ChatKat in Ca.
October 8th, 2011, 03:34 PM
Don't forgt to visit the Flower Market in Nice. One of my favorites to visit in Europe!
RachelG
October 14th, 2011, 02:07 PM
At last, I am caught up enough with work and unpacking to post.
We were up early to disembark in Monaco. I never really do room service breakfast, but GE wanted to experience it. SO he ordered up a feast--fried eggs, bacon, bagels, salmon, tomato and orange juice, coffee for him and tea for me. They were right on time (how do they do that with so many people ordering at the same time). Everything was hot and cooked perfectly.
Our tags were called at 8:45 (we had requested 9 as that was when I had scheduled our driver), and Carlos (the sommolier) yet again carrying my luggage off. He is such a jewel. Driver was there for a quick, no traffic, Sunday morning drive to Nice.
We spent the rest of the day exploring Nice. Dinner at Luc Saucedo, which is my favorite restaurant there. Flew to LHR then to US.
A wonderful memorable trip--one I feel honored to be able to have shared with my son. Lots of really nice passengers and crew. Crew members were always smiling. Excursion departures were much better organized than many in the past and were almost all on time.
When I get the pics organized, I will try to find one of the mask party.
poss
October 15th, 2011, 04:04 PM
Rachel, many thanks once more for your terrific reporting.
Can you tell me, please, whom you used for your driver from Monaco to Nice? and about how much the transfer cost?
I love Nice also and have made note of your son's restaurant. ;-)
(We enjoy La Perouse very much as a hotel, but have never noted our restaurants.)
RachelG
October 15th, 2011, 04:38 PM
alain at dream-tours.com has been our driver twice. He is amazing. Highly recommend. Very good prices too. 90 euro from the dock at Monaco to Nice. A taxi would be about the same probably, but I like the assurance of having a driver waiting there for me.
LOL about my son's restaurant. Actually my son does love to cook.
Responder
October 15th, 2011, 05:15 PM
alain at dream-tours.com has been our driver twice. He is amazing. Highly recommend. Very good prices too. 90 euro from the dock at Monaco to Nice. A taxi would be about the same probably, but I like the assurance of having a driver waiting there for me.
LOL about my son's restaurant. Actually my son does love to cook.
You're correct...that was exactly what a taxi cost us for the 15 minute ride.
Travel2Learn
October 16th, 2011, 11:49 AM
[quote=RachelG;30967280] SO he ordered up a feast--fried eggs, bacon, bagels, salmon, tomato and orange juice, coffee for him and tea for me.
Rachel, what brand of tea are they currently serving?
TheSeaAroundUs
October 16th, 2011, 02:14 PM
I think I've always seen Twinings; don't know if that changes or if they have others as well (presumably some herbals?)...
RachelG
October 16th, 2011, 03:03 PM
Twinings is the current brand of tea. No others that I know of. I would so love if they would have proper loose leaf tea, at least at tea time.
Travelcat2
October 16th, 2011, 03:18 PM
Twinings is the current brand of tea. No others that I know of. I would so love if they would have proper loose leaf tea, at least at tea time.
As I think you know, Silversea has an amazing assortment of loose leaf tea. This is a big draw for some of their European customers.
RachelG
October 16th, 2011, 05:04 PM
As I think you know, Silversea has an amazing assortment of loose leaf tea. This is a big draw for some of their European customers.
Yes, why can't Regent follow in this regard? I am hoping that they have the loose leaf tea on the Silversea Explorer, not just the other ships, as we are booked for next June.
poss
October 27th, 2011, 05:52 PM
Hello again Rachel,
I hope you don't mind my coming back with yet another question. I will definitely book Alain for either a transfer to Nice or one of the tours plus transfer. I remember your saying that you'd done the perched villages (full day) tour. I'm trying to decide between that one and the half day tour of Eze, Villa Ephrussi and Villa Kerylos (Beaulieu). We've been to Eze (Eze is on both tours). So: can you offer an opinion of whether La Turbie, St Agnes, Menton (and Eze and Monaco) are more interesting than those seaside villas (and Eze)? I've googled LaT and St A and Menton, but I don't have a real sense of them. Did you love them? Do you know the villas?
Thanks very much. (I know you can't make our choice; just hoping you might have some input.)
RachelG
October 28th, 2011, 10:29 AM
When we did our transfer last year with Alain, we did the villas and Eze tour. I really enjoyed the villas. They are both very different. The Rothschild Villa has beautiful gardens. I could have spent a whole day there just exploring. The other villa is made to replicate an ancient Roman villa because the guy who built it was fascinated with Roman history and architecture. It was really interesting, esp considering that he had the ancient furniture replicated and actually lived there. It did not look very comfortable to me.
Eze is fine to walk around in, very charming, but mostly just tourist shops and cafes now. I actually preferred the villas, but Eze was included in the tour. I think this tour and transfer combo is very good value.
The only other hilltop village I have been to is St. Paul de Vence, which I loved way more than Eze. It seemed like people really lived there in addition to the tourist stuff. Great views and cute cats.
poss
October 28th, 2011, 04:42 PM
Thanks Rachel. You've decided me! (I love gardens especially.) And I agree with your feelings abt Eze and St Paul. Eze has wonderful views and handsome streets, but they're too many shops for our taste. St Paul is one of my all-time favorite places. I guess the perched villages will have to be for another time (she says optimistically).
mimito4
October 28th, 2011, 07:34 PM
Thank you Rachel. I enjoyed your journey, although I'm sure not as much as you!