Has anyone ever brought thier musical instrument onboard?

[geonna]

Hello,

I will soon be sailing on the Noordam, and since it will be for a 9 day cruise, and it will take 4 days of traveling to get there and back, I am planning to bring my bassoon. If I do not, I will lose my emboucher and be out of practice for an upcoming concert.

Has anyone ever brought their instrument onboard a ship before? Where did you practice? If I play quietly in my cabin, do you think my neighbors will mind?

I thought that I would write a little note to my neighbors explaining what the sounds were, in case they heard them. The bassoon is no little instrument, and it has a strange sound. I would not play early in the morning, or late at night.

Any advice or comments would be welcome. Thanks.

[aikensbest]

I love music, but would not enjoy having someone in a cabin next to me playing a bassoon, or frankly any other instrument. I suggest you contact the cruise line and see if there is somewhere on the ship you could practice. NOT in your cabin

[Spire2000]

I've wondered what I would do if I ever took a cruise longer than say 2 weeks. I am a guitarist, and like your embouchure, guitarists cultivate callouses on their hands. I hurt my hand just before XMas and wasn't able to play for about 3 weeks and my fingers are still trying to get back in shape.

If I were to go away for more than a couple weeks, I'd seriously consider bringing a cheap guitar to practice on.

Granted, an acoustic guitar is more familiar and in some ways more palatable to folks than a solo bassoon.

[Padraic]

We were on the Amsterdam two years ago and a passenger had his ukelele with him. A couple of times we found him playing near the elevators. Not bad and not too loud.

[centuryguy]

I'm a musician, although on the guitar not the bassoon. I would urge you not to bring your instrument onboard. I'm familiar with the bassoon and I believe I'm accurate in saying that there are no locations onboard where you can practice privately. It doesn't matter how well you play, it is my belief that other passengers will not appreciate it. I think many people sail Holland America for peace and quiet; I know I do. Respectfully, from one musician to another, the bassoon does not contribute to a quiet atmosphere. I rarely travel without a guitar, but I don't bring it on a cruise.

[jtl513]

I love the sound of a bassoon (I wanted to take it up it high school but they said my hands were too small) but I would not appreciate someone practicing it in the cabin next door. Maybe you could get permission to practice wherever the ship's musicians do. Or take it on shore at ports?

[igraf]

I used to play the trombone and I guarantee that nobody would want me as a neighbor if I played in my stateroom!!!!!

Practicing off the ship in port would be the best solution. You might even make enough in tips for a Pinnacle Grill dinner!

igraf




...Or take it on shore at ports?

[Krazy Kruizers]

I am with others -- I would not be happy to hear someone playing an instrument in the cabin next to ours no matter what time of day.

My DH takes many medications and many times naps in the afternoon --- he likes peace and quiet.

[sapper1]

With all due respect, I know we would not like having to listen to someone playing a musical instrument next door. We often have an afternoon nap in the cabin or just sit on the balcony enjoying the solitude. We have always been able to count on our cabin as a place of quiet relaxation.

I think there would be complaints and you would be requested to stop by the front desk.

[sail7seas]

I believe I've read in HAL's do and don'ts someplace that guests are not permitted to play their own musical instruments on the ships.

I agree with the others that I would be disturbed to have someone playing their instrument in a nearby cabin. They are not sound proof.

[trvlcrzy]

Just a thought... how often are the small meeting rooms empty during mid-day? The Half Moon Room or the Hudson Room, for example.

[TTFromSommersTown]

To "geonna" you seem to be a very thoughtful person how does not wish to upset their fellow passengers.
You also need to practice your bassoon whilst on the cruise and as it is for an up coming concert, I am assuming that you are not shy in playing in public.
I am not sure how long you need to practice each day, but here are a few suggestions for where to practice.
1) Go to the stern (back) of the ship on the lido deck, when the ship is moving the majority of the sound will disipate in the wind away from the ship.
2) Ask the Entertainment Director if you can play in the show lounge, the theatre or one of the other rooms when they are not being used.
3) Ask the Entertainment Director if he has any objection to you asking the pianist or other group if you can play the occasional peice with them. I have seem them agree and it was very entertaining
4) Ask the Hotel Manager if you can play for the staff when they are setting up the MDR. If the staff throw bread rolls, then get out quick.

As others have said, don't play in your room, there are a lot of other spaces that you can use that will not upset fellow cruisers.

[dcguy9]

I have brought my trumpet on the last several cruises we have taken as I am not about to get out of shape. There has never been a problem at all! No worries! I would just go up to guest services shortly after we boarded and explained my situation. They were very accomodating and offered me a meeting/conference type room for an hour a day. A few times I have played in my room and there was no problem at all. One time, the woman next door very nicely told me her kids took naps and I did not play in my room anymore.

Definitely bring your bassoon on board. Worst case is that you don't play it and it sits under your bed. But, like I said, I have had no problems and will continue to bring it on every cruise.

You know, a cruiseship is kind of like a hotel in many ways. I have played in hundreds of hotels around the country and 99% of the time, the front desk people are really great and try to get me a room.

The idea is to maintain your chops and not disturb anyone. It can be done!

[IRL_Joanie]

Hello,

I will soon be sailing on the Noordam, and since it will be for a 9 day cruise, and it will take 4 days of traveling to get there and back, I am planning to bring my bassoon. If I do not, I will lose my emboucher and be out of practice for an upcoming concert.

Has anyone ever brought their instrument onboard a ship before? Where did you practice? If I play quietly in my cabin, do you think my neighbors will mind?

I thought that I would write a little note to my neighbors explaining what the sounds were, in case they heard them. The bassoon is no little instrument, and it has a strange sound. I would not play early in the morning, or late at night.

Any advice or comments would be welcome. Thanks.

Might I suggest that you practice your Bassoon in the .Show Room At Sea?

It is where all of the performances are and you could do it there, ask the Cruise Director or Hotel Manager for permission.

Joanie

[jcrandle]

I wonder if there might be a compromise? Bagpipe players can practice with a chanter, a device that allows the musician to practice on a device about the size (and sound volume) of a flutophone or recorder. If it is your embouchure you are concerned about, you could just bring your double reed and leave the full instrument at home. Our you could just suck on the martini stirrer at the molecular bar.:D

[madera1]

My husband plays the guitar daily. He only takes it on vacation when we go to the CA coast where he can sit by the ocean and play. While on the last 2 cruises, he made friends with the guitarist onboard and was able to use the guitar a few times. He has done the same when we are in Mexico each year.

[crusinbanjo]

Hello,

I will soon be sailing on the Noordam, and since it will be for a 9 day cruise, and it will take 4 days of traveling to get there and back, I am planning to bring my bassoon. If I do not, I will lose my emboucher and be out of practice for an upcoming concert.

Has anyone ever brought their instrument onboard a ship before? Where did you practice? If I play quietly in my cabin, do you think my neighbors will mind?

I thought that I would write a little note to my neighbors explaining what the sounds were, in case they heard them. The bassoon is no little instrument, and it has a strange sound. I would not play early in the morning, or late at night.

Any advice or comments would be welcome. Thanks.


I bring my banjo all the time and have had no issues at all. I would not write any notes, but do be conscience of your neighbors. Check in with guest services they will likely find a good spot for you to practice.

I would not practice early morning or late at night in your cabin.... That is looking for trouble!

[edmusic]

As one who has been in the music business for over 35 years, and I make my living by selling instruments and creating musicians, I think you should leave your bassoon at home and enjoy your vacation. As was mentioned before, try taking your reeds and bocals in order to keep your embouchure in shape.

[kazu]

We had people who brought their musical instruments on board two cruises ago. They always do. They actually played and performed for us on certain days. They had permission from the ship and plenty of places to practice and sing and never had to use their cabins.

A lot of passengers enjoyed listening to them:)

[2buggers]

Guess I'll leave my drum set at home!

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[3rdtimecruising]

Hello,

I will soon be sailing on the Noordam, and since it will be for a 9 day cruise, and it will take 4 days of traveling to get there and back, I am planning to bring my bassoon. If I do not, I will lose my emboucher and be out of practice for an upcoming concert.

Has anyone ever brought their instrument onboard a ship before? Where did you practice? If I play quietly in my cabin, do you think my neighbors will mind?

I thought that I would write a little note to my neighbors explaining what the sounds were, in case they heard them. The bassoon is no little instrument, and it has a strange sound. I would not play early in the morning, or late at night.

Any advice or comments would be welcome. Thanks.

My (adult) son brought his guitar with him on our family cruise to Bermuda this summer and when he needed to chill out and get into his music he would go to his inside cabin and get his fill of his favorite pastime.:) He never leaves home without one of his MANY guitars. Have fun.:D

:D

[sail7seas]

His inside cabin didn't have any neighbors? So much for quiet time they might have been hoping for.

Some people are too timid to knock on their neighbors door and ask them to stop making whatever noise so they are subjected to that noise whether they like it or not.

A cabin is a private space but is not soundproof.

[catl331]

My (adult) son brought his guitar with him on our family cruise to Bermuda this summer and when he needed to chill out and get into his music he would go to his inside cabin and get his fill of his favorite pastime.:) He never leaves home without one of his MANY guitars. Have fun.:D

:DWas that the Oct 9 to 16 cruise? If so, he may have been the one who sat on the wooden bench right outside our window on the Lower Promenade stern and played a while one evening. It was not too loud, and we weren't trying to sleep or anything, but if we were we would had said something. ;)

[sail7seas]

I think I remember you mentioned the guitar player in your review comments you posted here? I would have been unhappy with someone sitting outside our cabin playing a guitar, any time of day or night.

[chipmaster]

My daughter brought her viola... practice is a prioirty.

We found the libary / game room in the mornings was lightly used, actually most hours and it was a decent place.

Hmm but louder instuments... :eek:

[geonna]

Thank you to everyone who posted a response! I am grateful for your candid opinions and respect your concerns. I also thank the people who offered the many good ideas, such as speaking to the hotel manager and using empty rooms. My husband and I got a real chuckle out of embouchure practice with a martini straw!

After reading all you had to say, I have decided to bring my beloved bassoon. I promise to be as good a neighbor as possible, and will find places to practice that do not keep people awake, or wondering what in the world that sound is they are hearing!

Thanks again!

[dcguy9]

I think I remember you mentioned the guitar player in your review comments you posted here? I would have been unhappy with someone sitting outside our cabin playing a guitar, any time of day or night.

Sounds like you are not really a music fan. That's too bad! If a neighbor is bothering you with noise, just ask them to please stop. If they are a reasonable person they will. But, music is extremely important to many people and life doesn't completely stop because we are on a cruise.

[sail7seas]

No, of course, life doesn't completely stop on a cruise, nor should courtesy and consideration of one's neighbors.

If what you are doing could disturb other people IMO you should think about not doing it.
If the musical instruments played in neighbor's cabin keeps someone from being able to sleep, it is inconsiderate IMO

If the music they are playing is bothersome to the extent neighbor can't hear the movie they are watching, they should keep the noise down IMO

Whether I personally like music or not isn't relevant to anything.

[FrankNJ]

OMG , I could say so many things and offend so many people ..... my opinion ;
please don't play any music on the ship unless you can listen through headphones .
Please don't play music in the library , just like at home . Maybe , but I'm not sure ,
the ships orchestra might allow you to practice in the showroom wnen its not in use , I don't know , I guess you could ask , but please , don't put the kingston trio next to my balcony .

[RuthC]

I love music. I listen to music almost all day long. On the ship, my cabin TV is always on a music station when I am in there.
I don't want anyone else deciding what music I'm going to listen to, though. That includes the background music in the Lido, lounges, and outside decks!
Keep your practicing in an area where other passengers are not going to hear it.

[crusinbanjo]

OMG , I could say so many things and offend so many people ..... my opinion ;
please don't play any music on the ship unless you can listen through headphones .
Please don't play music in the library , just like at home . Maybe , but I'm not sure ,
the ships orchestra might allow you to practice in the showroom wnen its not in use , I don't know , I guess you could ask , but please , don't put the kingston trio next to my balcony .

Ha that is funny.... But I will need to know your cursing schedule for the next few years in order to be sure you are not my neighbor..... JUST KIDDING.

[FrankNJ]

"If I had a Hammer " ( lol )

[jimmy2x]

When I saw the title of this thread, I thought it was some sort of joke. Am absolutely stunned that anyone would think it was OK to play an instrument in their room or balcony. We've never complained about anyone or anything in all of our cruises, but would certainly make an exception here.

[FrankNJ]

Ha that is funny.... But I will need to know your cursing schedule for the next few years in order to be sure you are not my neighbor..... JUST KIDDING.

Wow talk about funny ! Or is it a freudian slip ? I just re read my "cursing schedule " ,
I think my "cursing schedule" will begin when the woodwind section arrives in the cabin next to me . I'm thinking "Mr Holland's Opus " here , anyone else have that thought ?

( Seriously though , we'll be on Zuiderdam Mar. 9 , maybe we can get a list of clarinet and oboe players who will be joining us ? )

[sail7seas]

Wow talk about funny ! Or is it a freudian slip ? I just re read my "cursing schedule " ,
I think my "cursing schedule" will begin when the woodwind section arrives in the cabin next to me . I'm thinking "Mr Holland's Opus " here , anyone else have that thought ?

( Seriously though , we'll be on Zuiderdam Mar. 9 , maybe we can get a list of clarinet and oboe players who will be joining us ? )


LOL...... Funny :D

[Sophiebaby]

I love music. I especially love classical music. But even if Yo Yo Ma were in cabin adjoining mine and decided to practice, I would become unglued. The babble of voices in the lido buffet, by the pool, and in the MDR is unavoidable. My cabin is my refuge if it becomes too much. As far as the Internet Cafe/Library, I've been in there are 6:00 a.m. along with other passengers. Believe me, we treasure the peace and quiet. We don't need to hear a basoon!

[FrankNJ]

Maybe I'm old fashioned , but when I don't immediately know something I try to think a little bit before I rush to look it up on google . So , when I first read something about losing one's "emboucher " my first reaction was to suggest reporting it to the front desk , if for no other reason than to see them attempt to understand you.

Now that i have googled it and know what it means i have to conclude that the original question was posted as a joke . OMG , I can think of so many funny ways not to lose it .
( lol )

[igraf]

No problem for you, but sounds like (pun!) it was a problem for others. Your poor neighbor probably suffered in silence for a while before approaching you as lot of people do not wish to confront others.

It was very inconsiderate of you to play a trumpet in your room! I would complain immediately, and perhaps not so nicely, if you were near my cabin.

igraf



quote=dcguy9;32058470]I have brought my trumpet on the last several cruises we have taken as I am not about to get out of shape. There has never been a problem at all! No worries! I would just go up to guest services shortly after we boarded and explained my situation. They were very accomodating and offered me a meeting/conference type room for an hour a day. A few times I have played in my room and there was no problem at all. One time, the woman next door very nicely told me her kids took naps and I did not play in my room anymore.
[/quote]

[igraf]

Um, why would someone need to "chill out" while on a cruise? That is the purpose of the cruise.

delJ


My (adult) son brought his guitar with him on our family cruise to Bermuda this summer and when he needed to chill out and get into his music he would go to his inside cabin and get his fill of his favorite pastime.:) He never leaves home without one of his MANY guitars. Have fun.:D

:D

[Viesczy]

I've read music and played instruments since I was 5, so I have 35 years under my belt (I'd be lost w/o music) and the last 25 years of primarily guitar. My advantage is that I can take an electric guitar, have no amp with me, and I'm not audible as solid body guitars are acoustically dead. I am able to keep my technique, my synchronization tip top w/o anyone getting their britches bunched up.

I am actually working on the right hand part of Chopin's Op 25 no 11 & no 12 right now, love those pieces! <3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx6-Z0nsWnw

Derek

[Kiwi Kruzer]

When we did the Circumnavigation of Australia, one passenger had his bagpipes along , and he would stand on the top deck and pipe us away from each port .

[sail7seas]

THAT is a VERY different thing. :)

Must have been wonderful.

I love that Halifax always has pipers when Maasdam arrives in the morning and they pipe us away in the afternoon. I never miss being outside (veranda ;) ) to enjoy it.

[FrankNJ]

Yes , we very much enjoyed the pipers on the dock in Halifax with the mounted policeman in his bright red uniform there to greet us.

But right now for some reason I can't get this tune out of my head :



www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7jZeXvpyZQ

[magicfan]

I would have absolutely no problem with you practicing your bassoon in a quiet area of the ship. Many people bring musical instruments on board, it is not a problem. On our last cruise on RCL we saw several guitars and my 13 yr old brought along his trumpet as he is an accomplished trumpet player and wanted to participate in the onboard youth talent show. There are several empty places during the day on the ship ie. one of the lounges or meeting rooms so it should not be a problem.

[scopewest]

I would love to hear you play the bassoon and perhaps give me a lesson on how the instrument works. If I had the Kingston Trio on the balcony next to mine, I'd be out there on my balcony singing and dancing along with them.

Enjoy your cruise and I'm sure you'll find a place to practice. I envy you your musical talent!

[feathersandnananose]

Another thought:

I'm thinking the big theater / show room would have to be empty early in the morning with no one using it. And no one nearby to hear noises. Later times would have show rehearsals, lectures, etc. But perhaps talking to the cruise director?....

And the singers HAVE to have somewhere fairly soundproof to warm up / vocalize. (I used to sing - it's not always a good thing to have to hear someone doing their vocal exercizes...)

Barb in so cal

[jcrandle]

I love music. I especially love classical music. But even if Yo Yo Ma were in cabin adjoining mine and decided to practice, I would become unglued. The babble of voices in the lido buffet, by the pool, and in the MDR is unavoidable. My cabin is my refuge if it becomes too much. As far as the Internet Cafe/Library, I've been in there are 6:00 a.m. along with other passengers. Believe me, we treasure the peace and quiet. We don't need to hear a basoon!

Isn't Yo Yo Ma one of those rappers? Oh, I checked and think that would be Yo Mama!

[sail7seas]

Anyone bringing their Tuba aboard? :eek: :D

[lorekauf]

I've heard a couple of pax playing instruments on a ship and both times were annoying. One brought an accordian and played that around the pool every day. The other one had a flute nad played outside the Crows Nest. I love to go to that area for peace and quiet. They were both annoying so I would not appreciate hearing the music.

[jcrandle]

The theater is often in use during day and evening. With enrichment lectures, bingo, rehearsals for the shows, and other uses, it seems to stay pretty busy. Now likely 4:30 AM would be no problem. (if you ever practiced figure skating, I'd bet you can relate to that!)

[FrankNJ]

If I had a noise producing hobby I know I wouldn't bring it on the ship , whatever it was .
But I'm not part of the "me" generation. 2000 people have to be annoyed so I won't lose my "whatever".

p.s. - Do you think anyone will mind if I practice my bowling in the corridors ?
( I'll only do it when no one is around , I don't want to lose the sweet spot).
No ?, how about yodelling ? Or chanting ?

[crusinbanjo]

When I saw the title of this thread, I thought it was some sort of joke. Am absolutely stunned that anyone would think it was OK to play an instrument in their room or balcony. We've never complained about anyone or anything in all of our cruises, but would certainly make an exception here.

I think the bottom line is that we all go cruising for pleasure, excitement, relaxation and a hundred other reasons. There are many things that other folks do while onboard that I personally find offensive that I must tolerate. When a neighbor is smoking cigars or is having a loud party on an adjacent balcony, my balcony is not to my liking, but I am not going to go knocking on doors or calling the front desk to complain. The other passengers have e right to use their cabin as they see fit. Unless it gets out of hand, I simply adjust. I try not to go looking to be offended, and always give others the benefit of the doubt. When it comes to the banjo, I know some will love it, others will not, so, i try to play in a manor and at a place & time that does not offend... As best I can. Because after all, it is my vacation as well.

[FrankNJ]

Dam , Now I've got that little ditty from deliverance rolling around in my head !

[sail7seas]

If I had a noise producing hobby I know I wouldn't bring it on the ship , whatever it was .
But I'm not part of the "me" generation. 2000 people have to be annoyed so I won't lose my "whatever".

p.s. - Do you think anyone will mind if I practice my bowling in the corridors ?
( I'll only do it when no one is around , I don't want to lose the sweet spot).
No ?, how about yodelling ? Or chanting ?


^^^^
Now here's a thought.






The theater is often in use during day and evening. With enrichment lectures, bingo, rehearsals for the shows, and other uses, it seems to stay pretty busy. Now likely 4:30 AM would be no problem. (if you ever practiced figure skating, I'd bet you can relate to that!)


There are actually cabins over the show rooms and it isn't likely the occupants want to be awakened by a guest who abides by the 'it's my vacation theory' to the expense of others. I suppose it being their vacation, too, is of less value.

Yah, problem if it's your cabin that gets 'treated' to unwanted noise in the early o'dark hundred. :eek:

[TiogaCruiser]

When we did the Circumnavigation of Australia, one passenger had his bagpipes along , and he would stand on the top deck and pipe us away from each port .



Way too cool! Were you aware because you were up there, or did you hear about it ( through other pax or an announcement?). I would have loved that.

On volendam a pax brought his harmonica and played with Adagio. That Adagio was a traditional quartet with violins, viola and cello. Superb. Neal ( ?) joined them for Ashoken Fairwell (ken burns civil war ) and it was very moving.

~TC

[3rdtimecruising]

Was that the Oct 9 to 16 cruise? If so, he may have been the one who sat on the wooden bench right outside our window on the Lower Promenade stern and played a while one evening. It was not too loud, and we weren't trying to sleep or anything, but if we were we would had said something. ;)

Hi Carol,

Obviously not everyone enjoys music like we do... My son only played at appropriate times in his inside cabin. His intention was for no one else to hear him as he composed some of his new pieces for his band... We were on another cruise line with a much younger population, unlike HAL that tends to be retirees that:" retire "very early.;) While onboard he and two other members of his band spent many evenings at the Kareoke bar along with his father and me enjoying all the happy faces in the crowd as they performed for them... Am I a proud mama, yabetcha!!! Sorry that 7seas is not a "musicman". Thanks for your post..Whenever we can be entertained by talented people is a lucky day for sure.:cool:

Ann soon to be on HAL zuiderdam/panama

[3rdtimecruising]

I've read music and played instruments since I was 5, so I have 35 years under my belt (I'd be lost w/o music) and the last 25 years of primarily guitar. My advantage is that I can take an electric guitar, have no amp with me, and I'm not audible as solid body guitars are acoustically dead. I am able to keep my technique, my synchronization tip top w/o anyone getting their britches bunched up.

I am actually working on the right hand part of Chopin's Op 25 no 11 & no 12 right now, love those pieces! <3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx6-Z0nsWnw

Derek
Very well put.... and you can "chill out" your way when and if you want too....Music is a gift.;)
Ann

[sail7seas]

Hi Carol,

Obviously not everyone enjoys music like we do... My son only played at appropriate times in his inside cabin. His intention was for no one else to hear him as he composed some of his new pieces for his band... We were on another cruise line with a much younger population, unlike HAL that tends to be retirees that:" retire "very early. While onboard he and two other members of his band spent many evenings at the Kareoke bar along with his father and me enjoying all the happy faces in the crowd as they performed for them... Am I a proud mama, yabetcha!!! Sorry that 7seas is not a "musicman". Thanks for your post..Whenever we can be entertained by talented people is a lucky day for sure.

Ann soon to be on HAL zuiderdam/panama







;)

Assuming is never good.

No, I am not a musicman...

I am female.

How can anyone know or assume what is an appropriate time for people in an adjoining cabin? Maybe they want an afternoon nap? Maybe they have a baby they put down for a nap?
Maybe they are feeling ill and wish to rest?

[RuthC]

... My son only played at appropriate times in his inside cabin.
And you know this how? :confused: Did he poll everyone in the neighboring cabins? How about one deck above? And below?
Your definition of "appropriate" may not be the same as everyone else.

[sapper1]

If I had a noise producing hobby I know I wouldn't bring it on the ship , whatever it was .
But I'm not part of the "me" generation. 2000 people have to be annoyed so I won't lose my "whatever".

p.s. - Do you think anyone will mind if I practice my bowling in the corridors ?
( I'll only do it when no one is around , I don't want to lose the sweet spot).
No ?, how about yodelling ? Or chanting ?
I told my husband about your post and he wants to know if he can bowl with you. He's afraid he'll get rusty on the cruise.Maybe you could use your roll call to form a league----if you use inflatable pins it shouldn't be too noisy and you could do it a time when the corridors were not too busy. If you tip the stewards maybe they would act as pin setters.

How about my practicing golf chipping in the elevator lobbies----do you suppose anyone would mind? After all it's my vacation and I paid a lot for it.

[kazu]

Awe......................come on everyone....there are lots of places to practice on the ship - it can even be a stairwell - no one has to practice in the room and disturb naps :D nor at the Crow's Nest ;)

Seriously, our musicians on board were a joy. They never disturbed anyone and music is a gift to be shared by all. Those who are lucky to have the gift and those who are lucky enough to listen:)

Believe it or not, there are LOTS of places to practice on the ships and the ship will help them with that (unless things have changed).

In fact they even joined in with the performers a couple of nights. They were a lot of fun and never ever bothered anyone - if anything they added joy to our cruise :)

They were part of our roll call but whether they were or not would not change my opinion. the infringed on no one and gave us the joy of their music:)

[lorekauf]

Awe......................come on everyone....there are lots of places to practice on the ship - it can even be a stairwell - no one has to practice in the room and disturb naps :D nor at the Crow's Nest ;)

Seriously, our musicians on board were a joy. They never disturbed anyone and music is a gift to be shared by all. Those who are lucky to have the gift and those who are lucky enough to listen:)

Believe it or not, there are LOTS of places to practice on the ships and the ship will help them with that (unless things have changed).

In fact they even joined in with the performers a couple of nights. They were a lot of fun and never ever bothered anyone - if anything they added joy to our cruise :)

They were part of our roll call but whether they were or not would not change my opinion. the infringed on no one and gave us the joy of their music:)
Kazu, you may be a person that enjoys hearing a lot of music. Some people do not. Please respect the fact that some people do not want to be disturbed and do not want to hear music that others think sounds good. Some people are not objective about their noise level and how it affects others.

[kazu]

Kazu, you may be a person that enjoys hearing a lot of music. Some people do not. Please respect the fact that some people do not want to be disturbed and do not want to hear music that others think sounds good. Some people are not objective about their noise level and how it affects others.

please don't misunderstand lorekauf - I like my quiet too and i do not like LOUD music. What I was trying to say is that these three people found a place to practice that did not disturb anyone. The only time we heard them was when they performed - literally performed as in the Adagio strings and other things.

I'd never want anyone forced to listen to anything - I totally hear you on that. But there is a classy way to do things and these three did it.:)

I was just trying to point out that there is a way for everyone to be happy and perhaps even get some enjoyment out of their fellow passengers.

I never heard them practice anywhere. They never disturbed anyone as far as I know (who knows, maybe they went to the crews' area?). But they were good - you didn't have to listen - just like you don't have to listen to the Adagio strings, the piano bar or whatever.

Just trying to say that there is a way that everyone can enjoy their cruise. They found a way and no one was disturbed. I am sure others can too.

That was my point - however poorly put.

[Wakepatrol]

It's one thing to bowl

But to admit to it?:eek:

[Aruba]

I took a Maasdam cruise the first 2 weeks of January that was half-chartered to a Dixieland-jazz group. (I'm sure "half-chartered" is not the correct term, but half of the passengers on the ship were affiliated with this group.) On that sailing, there were MANY folks who brought their instruments with them. Pretty much all of their events were open to everyone, so it was a pleasant surprise.

Speaking of bringing one's instrument with him, there was one gentleman who carried his tuba on his seated-walker. The tuba "sat" on the seat and he pushed it. Never failed to bring a smile to my face when I saw him.

[Wakepatrol]

The original poster has just written a beautiful piece of music.

It's called "The Lynch Mob Cometh"

[dcguy9]

The bottom line is, I and other musicians might very well bring our instruments on the next cruise. We may even play them in our room. If it disturbs you, tell us. You know there are other ways in which people make noise in their rooms. Examples would be parties, arguments, intoxication, loud TV, recorded music from an ipod or something...the list goes on and on.

If the musician is bothering you, knock on the door and he/she will hopefully act like an adult and stop. The same goes for the above noises. Maybe you guys can work out a good time that won't be disturbing, such as lunch or dinner?

My understanding is that cruise ships do not ban playing an instrument in your room. So the hope is that both parties will be reasonable and respectful.

[sapper1]

The bottom line is, I and other musicians might very well bring our instruments on the next cruise. We may even play them in our room. If it disturbs you, tell us. You know there are other ways in which people make noise in their rooms. Examples would be parties, arguments, intoxication, loud TV, recorded music from an ipod or something...the list goes on and on.

If the musician is bothering you, knock on the door and he/she will hopefully act like an adult and stop. The same goes for the above noises. Maybe you guys can work out a good time that won't be disturbing, such as lunch or dinner?

My understanding is that cruise ships do not ban playing an instrument in your room. So the hope is that both parties will be reasonable and respectful.
In an effort to be reasonable and respectful, we do not indulge in any of the above activities in our cabin. Neither do we play a musical instrument. When 2000 people are confined together in a small space everyone should make their best effort not to annoy others while they are enjoying the vacation they paid for.

As to playing an instrument while we are at dinner----we would never know the difference but I am sure that not all the occupants of cabins around near you, including above and below, go to lunch and dinner at the same time,

[crusinbanjo]

The bottom line is, I and other musicians might very well bring our instruments on the next cruise. We may even play them in our room. If it disturbs you, tell us. You know there are other ways in which people make noise in their rooms. Examples would be parties, arguments, intoxication, loud TV, recorded music from an ipod or something...the list goes on and on.

If the musician is bothering you, knock on the door and he/she will hopefully act like an adult and stop. The same goes for the above noises. Maybe you guys can work out a good time that won't be disturbing, such as lunch or dinner?

My understanding is that cruise ships do not ban playing an instrument in your room. So the hope is that both parties will be reasonable and respectful.

Jazz Sea Cruises, a very popular event for jazz musicians every year. Continues to get bigger every year! Lots of music lots of fun, and I'll bet e few even practice in their cabins!

[gelo7]

Not a great idea...

[sail7seas]

Jazz Sea Cruises, a very popular event for jazz musicians every year. Continues to get bigger every year! Lots of music lots of fun, and I'll bet e few even practice in their cabins!

Then they should charter the whole ship and the rest of us will not 'UNKNOWINGLY' find ourselves immersed in a cruise we never would have chosen had we been advised it was going to be so loud.

[Viesczy]

OMG this thread has brought out another group, the noise cops.

Could we get some stink cops next? Of all the things on board the STINKS from the other passengers is the most offensive IMO. You know the offenders, typically they are female and they've put on what could only be described as the stench from Hell's Sewer, a fragrance so strong that it has a social security number and haunts an area longer than most demons. :mad::eek:

The noise of a musician (even a rank amateur who just started on the bassoon-an instrument that when poorly played sounds like someone is strangling a goose) is far more tolerable than the various eye wateringly horrific stenches wafting about on board.

Derek

[mightycruisequeen]

If the musician is bothering you, knock on the door and he/she will hopefully act like an adult and stop. The same goes for the above noises. Maybe you guys can work out a good time that won't be disturbing, such as lunch or dinner?

My understanding is that cruise ships do not ban playing an instrument in your room. So the hope is that both parties will be reasonable and respectful.
This sounds quite reasonable to me.:)

[lorekauf]

OMG this thread has brought out another group, the noise cops.

Could we get some stink cops next? Of all the things on board the STINKS from the other passengers is the most offensive IMO. You know the offenders, typically they are female and they've put on what could only be described as the stench from Hell's Sewer, a fragrance so strong that it has a social security number and haunts an area longer than most demons. :mad::eek:

The noise of a musician (even a rank amateur who just started on the bassoon-an instrument that when poorly played sounds like someone is strangling a goose) is far more tolerable than the various eye wateringly horrific stenches wafting about on board.

Derek
You forgot overweight people and smokers:rolleyes:.

[pms4104]

...We may even play them in our room. If it disturbs you, tell us...If the musician is bothering you, knock on the door and he/she will hopefully act like an adult and stop...
I would be more likely to phone the Front Desk and ask them to deal with it.

Made the mistake of reminding a neighbor here on the street that, per village ordinance, he couldn't let his dog run loose thru the neighborhood ... next morning, we discovered someone had rammed a screwdriver thru the sidewall of one of our tires, making it unrepairable. Coincidence? Perhaps, but I would rather let staff/authorized persons do the dirty work.

[barante]

Drums. Before and after trivia.

[mightycruisequeen]

I looked throughout HAL's "know before you go", and really can't find anything saying it's against HAL's policy to bring an instrument to play in your stateroom. Can someone please point out where it is in HAL's brochure or passenger contract that playing musical instruments in one's stateroom is prohibited?
Thanks in advance.:)

[crusinbanjo]

Then they should charter the whole ship and the rest of us will not 'UNKNOWINGLY' find ourselves immersed in a cruise we never would have chosen had we been advised it was going to be so loud.

If they keep growing likely they will charter the entire ship in the not to distant future. Personally I have many friends that go on the Jazz Sea Cruise every year. some are musicians others are just music lovers. I'm hoping to be on one in the future, when my work schedule permits, I will still be respectful of my neighbors private space, but certainly will enjoy performing with the groups!

Seems to me there is a thread on how to know if a large group is coming aboard, might be worth checking out!

[Boytjie]

Jazz Sea Cruises, a very popular event for jazz musicians every year. Continues to get bigger every year! Lots of music lots of fun, and I'll bet e few even practice in their cabins!

Are they full ship charters or a large group on a regular cruise?

Edited to add: I got the answer ;)

[sail7seas]

If they keep growing likely they will charter the entire ship in the not to distant future. Personally I have many friends that go on the Jazz Sea Cruise every year. some are musicians others are just music lovers. I'm hoping to be on one in the future, when my work schedule permits, I will still be respectful of my neighbors private space, but certainly will enjoy performing with the groups!

Seems to me there is a thread on how to know if a large group is coming aboard, might be worth checking out!


If only cruise line would be open about truthfully answering someone who is booking and asks if there is a large group. IF people could know, they could make an informed choice.

Obviously, the cruise lines do not want everyone to know if they have a large group as it is such a negative impact on all who are not a part of the group..... no matter what the group is. We got caught in a very large group cruise once and it was miserable. It was so bad for so many of us that is the last time that group has been permitted to sail as a large group without chartering the whole ship..... and they do now charter at least annually.
We have tried to find out in advance to avoid that in the future but the cruise lines do not give out that information.

Someone here once tried to post an on-going thread about large groups on a cruise but it could never be completely accurate and googling is only somewhat useful etc

On the flip side of the miserable experience I mentioned above, we cruised Volendam twice within a few months in October 2005 and January 2006 and there was a fairly large Jazz Group aboard on one of those two cruises. We did not know in advance but it was fine and we enjoyed ourselves with no disturbances at all.

They had music in Crows Nest some nights but everyone who wanted was welcome to come. They must have had gatherings in Show Lounge or Hudson Room or Wajang or somewhere else but they did not disturb anyone that I'm aware of during those sessions.

Thankfully, no one was blowing a wind instrument next door to us and we were never disturbed in our cabin.

[Lakookoo]

We're sailing on the Noordam in a few days, too--and the only sounds I personally want to hear are the wind, the waves, and the seabirds!

(And possibly the tinkle of ice cubes in a glass, but that's another story.)

[vtbobby]

If they keep growing likely they will charter the entire ship in the not to distant future. Personally I have many friends that go on the Jazz Sea Cruise every year. some are musicians others are just music lovers. I'm hoping to be on one in the future, when my work schedule permits, I will still be respectful of my neighbors private space, but certainly will enjoy performing with the groups!

Seems to me there is a thread on how to know if a large group is coming aboard, might be worth checking out!

It was my understanding that all three Jazz cruises on Westerdam this month were complete ship charters. The second 'Smooth Jazz' ruise is out now...and next week is the 'Traditional Jazz' Cruise, that we are on...it has been completely sold out since August. Passengers were encouraged to bring musical instruments on all three voyages...and jam sessions are scheduled...and spontaneous.;)

Cheers :cool:

[sail7seas]

It was my understanding that all three Jazz cruises on Westerdam this month were complete ship charters. The second 'Smooth Jazz' ruise is out now...and next week is the 'Traditional Jazz' Cruise, that we are on...it has been completely sold out since August. Passengers were encouraged to bring musical instruments on all three voyages...and jam sessions are scheduled...and spontaneous.;)

Cheers :cool:


That's Perfect..... a full ship charter.

Hope you have a fantastic time!!! :)
Wave to us at sailaway as we watch you on the web cam. :)

Fair Winds and a Following Sea.......

[serendipity1499]

I'm one of those who really enjoy Music, but I would not want to hear a bassoon, if I were trying to nap..

Had previously mentioned to DH that I thought a Jazz group would be aboard our cruise next week..He was not overly happy about that because neither one of us really enjoys Jazz...

Just double checked the list of groups on the main board & now discover that the Celtic Music Group is booked on our cruise & not a Jazz group..:D:D We've both enjoyed "Celtic Woman" in the past, & he loves Celtic Music...Hopefully, he will be pleased when I tell him about this group..:):)

Cheers...

Betty

[FrankNJ]

I love the golf chipping idea ! Maybe the kid with the guitar can hold the "door open " button for us .

[FrankNJ]

If that is what Floats Your Boat, (pun intended), go for it! Maybe set up a Pots & Pans band. I've seen a few of them that were quite good!:D

You seem like a nice fellow banjo. Thanks for the laughs.

Do you know how to play "far far away " ?

[dcguy9]

I would be more likely to phone the Front Desk and ask them to deal with it.

Made the mistake of reminding a neighbor here on the street that, per village ordinance, he couldn't let his dog run loose thru the neighborhood ... next morning, we discovered someone had rammed a screwdriver thru the sidewall of one of our tires, making it unrepairable. Coincidence? Perhaps, but I would rather let staff/authorized persons do the dirty work.

Actually that is a good point. Knocking on a neighbor's door does not always have the best results!

Also, I think that the cruise company shouldn't really have to tell us that a big group is booked. Usually those events are held privately in the large rooms and others aren't often bothered. Obviously, there are exceptions to that as posted by someone earlier.

[luxurysailer]

My wife always brings her favorite musical instrument on cruises: me. She plays me like a Stradivarius.:D

[kazu]

My wife always brings her favorite musical instrument on cruises: me. She plays me like a Stradivarius.:D

love it :):D:)

[sail7seas]

My wife always brings her favorite musical instrument on cruises: me. She plays me like a Stradivarius.:D

LOL....... Smart lady. ;)

[jcrandle]

And you know this how? :confused: Did he poll everyone in the neighboring cabins? How about one deck above? And below?
Your definition of "appropriate" may not be the same as everyone else.

OK, OK, and I only assumed that all of the pounding on the ceiling was to help me keep my meter, since I had forgotten to bring my metronome!

[crusinbanjo]

Are they full ship charters or a large group on a regular cruise?

Edited to add: I got the answer ;)

I am pretty sure they are still a large group on a regular cruise, but I could be wrong on that, at least for the trad jazz that I would be part of. Jazz Sea cruises continue to grow every year!

Themed cruising.... Nice idea!

[crusinbanjo]

You seem like a nice fellow banjo. Thanks for the laughs.

Do you know how to play "far far away " ?

No, but I can play solo, "so low" that nobody can hear! Ha, thanks for the chuckle :D

[DFD1]

OP, Bring your Bassoon!... It'll probably sound a h--- of a lot better than some of the stuff I've heard from some of HAL's staff musicians. LOL

[Viesczy]

You forgot overweight people and smokers:rolleyes:.

The fashion police and the old folks cops!

I didn't want to completely derail the thread by listing all the various "law enforcement officers" that browse the boards. I'm not sure those "police" folks are capable of experiencing joy or having fun; they just seem so consumed by what others are doing they can't just be. :(

My motto is "knock yourself out and have fun" as there are few things that bother me so much that I am going to not have fun on vacation. You have a pet rhino which brought it on board and you're in a chainsaw symphony? Get that pachyderm moving and tune up that instrument! :D

Derek

[crusinbanjo]

The fashion police and the old folks cops!

I didn't want to completely derail the thread by listing all the various "law enforcement officers" that browse the boards. I'm not sure those "police" folks are capable of experiencing joy or having fun; they just seem so consumed by what others are doing they can't just be. :(

My motto is "knock yourself out and have fun" as there are few things that bother me so much that I am going to not have fun on vacation. You have a pet rhino which brought it on board and you're in a chainsaw symphony? Get that pachyderm moving and tune up that instrument! :D

Derek

Amen to that!! "Don't worry, be happy" The ships are big enough so that all can enjoy, even the LEO's from the boards!

[lorekauf]

The fashion police and the old folks cops!

I didn't want to completely derail the thread by listing all the various "law enforcement officers" that browse the boards. I'm not sure those "police" folks are capable of experiencing joy or having fun; they just seem so consumed by what others are doing they can't just be. :(

My motto is "knock yourself out and have fun" as there are few things that bother me so much that I am going to not have fun on vacation. You have a pet rhino which brought it on board and you're in a chainsaw symphony? Get that pachyderm moving and tune up that instrument! :D

Derek
That's where we differ. I'm not on the ship alone and I know my actions can affect others. I'm not self absorbed and I respect others.

[elycelynne]

Amen to that!! "Don't worry, be happy" The ships are big enough so that all can enjoy, even the LEO's from the boards!

Trouble is, if you're in your cabin trying to get some sleep or general peace and quiet and the "musician" is either next door, right above or right below you, the ship can suddenly become a whole lot smaller!

[marysb]

I'm a high school music teacher and if you heard some of my bassoon students .... Well, I think I would tell them to sit on the top deck near the smoke stack and people would just think it's the ship blasting it's horn. :D

Anyway, there are lots of rooms on board that are insulated for music and sound, go there in the off times- but do not play in your cabin (that's a rule on band trips);)

Have a great trip!

[geonna]

To FrankN:

Playing the bassoon is not a "noise making hobby" as you out it; music is not a hobby.

I am not from the "me" Generation. I am a Baby Boomer like I am guessing you are.

I am very glad to read the postings that let me see where I should and shouldn't practice, and i will use these as guidelines because I do not wish to impact negatively on other people's experience.

I am not doing it because I want to put on a show; you will not find me positioned at any key points with my hat out. I am doing it because, if I don't, I will not be able to play the concert I am doing when I return. You just can't put the instrument down, walk away for 13 days, and come back and be as good as you were to begin with.

Donna, the bassoonist in question

[geonna]

Also to FrankNJ:

You also stated that all 2000 people onboard would have to be annoyed so that I wouldn't lose my "whatever".

I doubt if I could annoy all 2000 people on board, even if I tried. And what about the crewmen and women? Aren't they people too, Frank?

[Viesczy]

That's where we differ. I'm not on the ship alone and I know my actions can affect others. I'm not self absorbed and I respect others.

Uhm, but your actions could be affecting someone else.

By saying "X bothers me" and "I'm going to stop X", that is negatively impacts someone as much as X impacted you.

X can be someone else's smoking on their balcony, the bassoon playing, worrying on someone's attire, the neighbors next to you breeding all night, etc. By making X stop, rather than coming to an agreement, you've just elevated you over the other.

That's why I said that my motto is "knock yourself out and have fun", there are few things that bother me so much that I am going to not have fun on vacation. You have a pet rhino which brought it on board and you're in a chainsaw symphony? Get that pachyderm moving and tune up that instrument! I think I might both ride that pachyderm and race that critter about the promenade... I bet I could beat it over a long distance! ;)

Derek

[dcguy9]

Uhm, but your actions could be affecting someone else.

By saying "X bothers me" and "I'm going to stop X", that is negatively impacts someone as much as X impacted you.

X can be someone else's smoking on their balcony, the bassoon playing, worrying on someone's attire, the neighbors next to you breeding all night, etc. By making X stop, rather than coming to an agreement, you've just elevated you over the other.

That's why I said that my motto is "knock yourself out and have fun", there are few things that bother me so much that I am going to not have fun on vacation. You have a pet rhino which brought it on board and you're in a chainsaw symphony? Get that pachyderm moving and tune up that instrument! I think I might both ride that pachyderm and race that critter about the promenade... I bet I could beat it over a long distance! ;)

Derek


Hey Derek,

I hear what you are saying but think you are taking it to an extreme. I agree with you to enjoy your vacation (and life for that matter) and not worry about others. Roll with the punches and don't let others affect you negatively. Make lemonade out of lemons. However, if someone is doing something such as playing an instrument in their room and your young child is trying to sleep, for instance, there is nothing wrong with nicely knocking on the door or calling the front desk.

So, I agree with most of what you are saying but it is okay to nicely confront a situation if it is truely affecting your life negatively.

[RuthC]

So, I agree with most of what you are saying but it is okay to nicely confront a situation if it is truely affecting your life negatively.
Even nicer when someone is considerate enough not to create the "situation" in the first place.

[euro cruiser]

I suspect that most of us live somewhere between the extremes of "I do whatever I want, when and where I want, and the rest of you just have to deal with it" and "I never step outside of the lines and do everything possible not to impact anyone else".

Hopefully we are all capable of a reasonable amount of tolerance for the differences among us, and we can find ways to deal with situations that go beyond that reasonable amount. Whether or not a neighbor practicing an instrument in the cabin next to me is bothersome would depend on several factors, including how loudly they play, for how long, and the time of day. How well they play and what they play may also have an impact (my musical tastes aren't sophisticated enough to appreciate atonal pieces, for example). If it became a problem for me, I think I'm mature enough to handle it via a personal chat or speaking with the front desk.

[Cruise Organizer]

I looked throughout HAL's "know before you go", and really can't find anything saying it's against HAL's policy to bring an instrument to play in your stateroom. Can someone please point out where it is in HAL's brochure or passenger contract that playing musical instruments in one's stateroom is prohibited?
Thanks in advance.:)


I also looked to see if HAL banned people from throwing others overboard, but I didn't see anything in their brochure against it.
:D

[TylerRose]

Hello,
Has anyone ever brought their instrument onboard a ship before? Where did you practice? If I play quietly in my cabin, do you think my neighbors will mind?
Any advice or comments would be welcome. Thanks.

hello,
I don't usually post on these explosive threads because they tend to go off course...
but here goes...

My son is a cellist. (WE MUST BUY A FIRST CLASS SEAT FOR HIS CELLO ON PLANE any time he needs cello with him...)
When his travel is only for a performance or an audition- that is focus of trip and not considered vacation time... (i.e. not a cruise)
He uses an ELECTRIC CELLO on vacation wearing headsets so only he can hear it.
I would think an electric bassoon might provide the same option.

Here are a few more changes we experienced recently at sea:
HAL no longer allows reserving and renting piano time.
He composed exclusively on finale and waited until he was back home to play his work out on piano.
We were told he could not use a "practice space" elsewhere even if room/ lounge was empty. His only option was cabin. (with headset so as not to disturb others.)
On our recent cruise there was a violinist practicing a few cabins over. He wandered to door to see if perhaps they might jamm together. At same time security approached cabin demanding she stop playing, there had been complaints. She regretted not bringing her electric.
In port, he did find a few music shops where he could play their guitars & pianos... but again... this was a rare port perk. not to be planned.
And lastly... If you do bring your bassoon, I would absolutely not practice on deck/ veranda. You don't need the moisture damaging the instrument or added stress created by confrontation with others or potential damage caused by ship movement whilst you are on board to relax.

Whatever decision you reach, I wish you luck & an enjoyable cruise.
BTW, our son told us he does not plan to cruise again unless it is to perform.
He found it too much hassle & he could not spare that much time...

[dcguy9]

I suspect that most of us live somewhere between the extremes of "I do whatever I want, when and where I want, and the rest of you just have to deal with it" and "I never step outside of the lines and do everything possible not to impact anyone else".

Hopefully we are all capable of a reasonable amount of tolerance for the differences among us, and we can find ways to deal with situations that go beyond that reasonable amount. Whether or not a neighbor practicing an instrument in the cabin next to me is bothersome would depend on several factors, including how loudly they play, for how long, and the time of day. How well they play and what they play may also have an impact (my musical tastes aren't sophisticated enough to appreciate atonal pieces, for example). If it became a problem for me, I think I'm mature enough to handle it via a personal chat or speaking with the front desk.

Definitely couldn't have said it better myself!

[dcguy9]

I also looked to see if HAL banned people from throwing others overboard, but I didn't see anything in their brochure against it.
:D

Really great post. Just in case you were serious, throwing somebody overboard is a felony punishable by prison. Practicing a musical instrument in your room is different from that!!

[jimmy2x]

Really great post. Just in case you were serious, throwing somebody overboard is a felony punishable by prison. Practicing a musical instrument in your room is different from that!!

I think that the point was that it unreasonable to expect HAL or any cruise-line to try to expressly ban every possible point of unpleasantness.

Those points which are normally contentious on every board (smoking, drinking age, etc.) are clearly addressed. Those things which are more generally considered normal good manners and courtesy are deemed to not require specific instruction/banning.

[dcguy9]

I think that the point was that it unreasonable to expect HAL or any cruise-line to try to expressly ban every possible point of unpleasantness.

Those points which are normally contentious on every board (smoking, drinking age, etc.) are clearly addressed. Those things which are more generally considered normal good manners and courtesy are deemed to not require specific instruction/banning.

Of course. But, I believe that this topic is a gray area in regards to good manners and courtesy. As long as there are no rules for a particular behavior, people need to act with respect and kindness. I do not think that playing a musical instrument softly in my room violates my own definitions. Especially if I am happy to stop when requested. Just my opinion. Many others disagee and they are not wrong. That's why I believe it is a gray area.

[magicfan]

Is it really that bad to hear someone practicing their musical instrument? Is this really something that is going to ruin your vacation? Are you that particular? I think that if musicians want to bring their instruments that is wonderful and I am sure that if asked they will gladly stop practicing if it is bothering you that much. Such a petty thing really should not have four pages of discussion.

[jcrandle]

I also looked to see if HAL banned people from throwing others overboard, but I didn't see anything in their brochure against it.
:D
Hal's policies caution against throwing anything overboard, even a bassoon player! After all, few things would pollute the seas more than a bassoon player:D Posted by a clarinet player. Nayh, Nayh!

[Wakepatrol]

Is it really that bad to hear someone practicing their musical instrument? Is this really something that is going to ruin your vacation? Are you that particular? I think that if musicians want to bring their instruments that is wonderful and I am sure that if asked they will gladly stop practicing if it is bothering you that much. Such a petty thing really should not have four pages of discussion.


4 pages is nothing. The elimination of trays in the lido would have you reading for days.

[ariawoman]

No, but I can play solo, "so low" that nobody can hear! Ha, thanks for the chuckle :D

But can you sing tenor? (ten or fifteen miles away)

:-)

[ariawoman]

To to OPs original question....

Can you just bring your mouthpiece/reed and utilize that to not lose your embrouchure or do you have to really be playing to mimick the experience. I ask because I too am a musician (degree in music ed however it's in voice -- but i play several instruments as well) and I know that you can help keep your emb for say, trumpet, by bringing a mouthpiece and buzzing into it basically. For flute, well, I could play off and on with year long gaps and somehow that one never goes :-) I'm lucky there. I'm also lucky that my main instrument is one that I carry with me always. :-) I sang in a talent show on my last cruise and it was an honor to be chosen and to sing in the ships main theatre, truly a thrill.

All this talk of the private charters reminds me of an "aspiring artists" convention I attended back in 1996 down at the opryland hotel in tennessee. We would jam in the lobbys until the wee hours of the morning - but since these areas were adjacent to the meeting rooms and not to guest rooms, it was cool. What a fun time that was, being around so many talented people. I love it.

Now, if i were trying to rest in my cabin - i'd not love it so much, so if you do end up bringing it along, try to ask the ship for a place you can rehearse where you won't be disturbing folks. Or as someone else mentioned, go into port and try to earn a few bucks :-) You never know!!

[kazu]

I suspect that most of us live somewhere between the extremes of "I do whatever I want, when and where I want, and the rest of you just have to deal with it" and "I never step outside of the lines and do everything possible not to impact anyone else".

Hopefully we are all capable of a reasonable amount of tolerance for the differences among us, and we can find ways to deal with situations that go beyond that reasonable amount. Whether or not a neighbor practicing an instrument in the cabin next to me is bothersome would depend on several factors, including how loudly they play, for how long, and the time of day. How well they play and what they play may also have an impact (my musical tastes aren't sophisticated enough to appreciate atonal pieces, for example). If it became a problem for me, I think I'm mature enough to handle it via a personal chat or speaking with the front desk.

Well said - most people are considerate and if they knew it was bothering you would stop or find an alternate time;) No one knows if it will bother them or not - we don't know if we will even hear it :)

[crusinbanjo]

Is it really that bad to hear someone practicing their musical instrument? Is this really something that is going to ruin your vacation? Are you that particular? I think that if musicians want to bring their instruments that is wonderful and I am sure that if asked they will gladly stop practicing if it is bothering you that much. Such a petty thing really should not have four pages of discussion.

Amen to that! As I read these postings, wow, I would not have believed there are so many people who are bothered by so little.

Yes, if something or someone is really making you unhappy on your cruise then do call the front desk or whatever, but please!

I guess I don't complain enough about what other people do on a cruise that bothers me, (maybe I should start..... NAH). Somehow I don't think my cruise experience will be any better if I start letting other people's pleasure become my hurt feelings or frustrations.

I fully intend to continue bringing my banjo on board, I'll play it, as I always do, in a manor and at times that should not bother my fellow passengers. I have never been asked not to play, and often I have been asked to play publicly, (which I generally decline). I'll continue to be respectful, as always, but in the end, I'm paying for the cruise, just like everybody else on board and if it offends you that much, well I can't do anything about that!

[crusinbanjo]

But can you sing tenor? (ten or fifteen miles away)

:-)

Yep that is easy, get in your car, and drive 53,000 feet in any direction and you will be about 10 miles away, I'll still be playing! Ha, good one!

[RuthC]

... but in the end, I'm paying for the cruise, just like everybody else on board and if it offends you that much, well I can't do anything about that!
You can. Sounds like you just don't want to.

[crusinbanjo]

You can. Sounds like you just don't want to.

Ruth I really enjoy your perspective and respect you opinion on most things, but in this case I just think too many people are going looking for a reason to be offended.

I don't go looking to offend others or go looking to be offended. I always accept what others are doing on any cruise unless it is really out of order & over the top. Normally, If I don't like what I see or hear, I just move on. We all hear sounds and experience things on board in many areas of the ship that we might not find pleasing, what should we do? Have a no talking, no laughing, no noise, no entertainment, no smoking, no drinking, no personal activity policy because somebody might be offended? Now that would make for a pretty boring cruise.

What I find puzzling is that so many people are offended by something that MIGHT happen, not something that has happened or is even likely to happen.

....And NO I cannot do anything about people who go around looking for a reason to be offended and unhappy.... likely, they are going to be offended anyway, no matter what I do!

But I still love you, so don't be mad at me!

[eusrmb]

Obviously you have thought about the noise to your neighbors so that should tell you not to bring your instrument. People are on board to relax, listen to the ocean, etc. I love music but when I want to listen to it. I don't think anyone would appreciate their expensive cruise ruined by someone practicing an instrument of any sort in their room no matter how good they are.

[sail7seas]

Obviously you have thought about the noise to your neighbors so that should tell you not to bring your instrument. People are on board to relax, listen to the ocean, etc. I love music but when I want to listen to it. I don't think anyone would appreciate their expensive cruise ruined by someone practicing an instrument of any sort in their room no matter how good they are.


Good Post, IMO

If they have to ask, they probably know the answer. If they were sure it would be fine, there would have been no reason to ask.

[RuthC]

....And NO I cannot do anything about people who go around looking for a reason to be offended and unhappy....
If you see people sitting there, enjoying a noise-free zone, when you decide to play your banjo, you can ask first if your playing will disturb them. They should not have to get up and move away if they are there first.
If you are there already, it's up to those entering the area to decide if they want to listen to whatever is going on.

That's what you can do.
Personally, I am totally sick of noise pollution everywhere I go.

[fellowfloater]

Does this mean some Baffoon will be playing a
Bassoon in the adjoining room?
Oh Great! :mad:

[lorekauf]

Personally, I am totally sick of noise pollution everywhere I go.
I'm SOOOOO with you on that:)!

[crusinbanjo]

If you see people sitting there, enjoying a noise-free zone, when you decide to play your banjo, you can ask first if your playing will disturb them. They should not have to get up and move away if they are there first.
If you are there already, it's up to those entering the area to decide if they want to listen to whatever is going on.

That's what you can do.
Personally, I am totally sick of noise pollution everywhere I go.

I would not do that in any event, nor do I think would the OP and that is my point exactly! When I play onboard, as I said earlier, I pick a place and time that is not likely to disturb othes. If others run into me by some stroke of luck, they can either like it or move on. I am not going to start playing when others might not enjoy it..... That would be dumb and just asking for trouble.

[kazu]

I would not do that in any event, nor do I think would the OP and that is my point exactly! When I play onboard, as I said earlier, I pick a place and time that is not likely to disturb othes. If others run into me by some stroke of luck, they can either like it or move on. I am not going to start playing when others might not enjoy it..... That would be dumb and just asking for trouble.

May I please re-iterate - we had musicians on board the NA and everyone that WANTED to listen to them enjoyed it. No one was forced. They did not bother anyone. They were great cc'ers and while not everyone wants to listen to music, those that did enjoyed it. Those that didn't were not forced to. They NEVER disturbed anyone anywhere.

Please listen to crusinbanjo - he's not infringing on anyone - he's not trying to shove his music down anyone's throat - he's not playing in his cabin at 3 a.m. or even 10 a.m. and disturbing anyone.

He finds discreet places and plays - what's wrong with that?:eek:

I really feel that some are jumping the gun here and making assumptions and worse case scenarios. No need. Most people are considerate and will work with anyone.

Why not live and let live? if there is a problem then I am sure it can be worked out. I really think in this case, people are envisioning problems that aren't necessarily there. :) Relax, it's a cruise. You can easily let someone know if you have to. I have a feeling with this type of cruiser it won't be necessary:D:D JMO

[RuthC]

May I please re-iterate - we had musicians on board the NA and everyone that WANTED to listen to them enjoyed it. No one was forced.
And that's all I ask for. Do not disturb me. If I want to listen, fine, but please don't force it on me.
If I am sitting alone on promenade deck, no one in sight, then do not sit down nearby and start in a-playing. At least ask me first if I mind. And if I do, then find somewhere else.

Apparently, for some, that's too much to ask for.

[lorekauf]

May I please re-iterate - we had musicians on board the NA and everyone that WANTED to listen to them enjoyed it. No one was forced. They did not bother anyone. They were great cc'ers and while not everyone wants to listen to music, those that did enjoyed it. Those that didn't were not forced to. They NEVER disturbed anyone anywhere.

Please listen to crusinbanjo - he's not infringing on anyone - he's not trying to shove his music down anyone's throat - he's not playing in his cabin at 3 a.m. or even 10 a.m. and disturbing anyone.

He finds discreet places and plays - what's wrong with that?:eek:

I really feel that some are jumping the gun here and making assumptions and worse case scenarios. No need. Most people are considerate and will work with anyone.

Why not live and let live? if there is a problem then I am sure it can be worked out. I really think in this case, people are envisioning problems that aren't necessarily there. :) Relax, it's a cruise. You can easily let someone know if you have to. I have a feeling with this type of cruiser it won't be necessary:D:D JMO
Just wondering how you would know what that poster does? I'm sure anyone that plays an instrument thinks they are being sensitive. I keep remembering the accordian player around the aft pool and the flute player outside the Crows Nest. In both cases I was there before they were. Neither one seemed to care about how they affected others. That is not to say everyone would act that way but it left me with a bad taste.

[kazu]

And that's all I ask for. Do not disturb me. If I want to listen, fine, but please don't force it on me.
If I am sitting alone on promenade deck, no one in sight, then do not sit down nearby and start in a-playing. At least ask me first if I mind. And if I do, then find somewhere else.

Apparently, for some, that's too much to ask for.

That's a perfectly reasonable request Ruth;)

[labguides]

We were on a cruise where several people had banjos etc and jammed each evening. It was wonderful.

[YubaSutter]

We were on a cruise where several people had banjos etc and jammed each evening. It was wonderful.

Wonderful to some is annoying to others. I would hate to hear banjos on a cruise.

[FrankNJ]

We were on a cruise where several people had banjos etc and jammed each evening. It was wonderful.

Where did they end up jammed ?

[lorekauf]

Where did they end up jammed ?
I'd like to suggest somewhere:D:p;).

[Sbilko]

So, I suppose this means I cannot bring my “One Man Band” ensemble :eek: on board. How I am going to pay for my drinks? ;):p:D

[Coolcruise02]

Wow, I never thought about this before but on the Veendam cruise around Cape Horn a man and a woman (not a couple) would often sit down at the piano in the Crows Nest and play at various times. This was during the mornings and sea days. They were both very good and DH & I enjoyed listening to them. I never dreamed there were others sitting there that hated it. ;)

[marco]

To OP: I kind of skipped over all of the posts and did not read them, but....ask staff if there is an empty room/lounge "where ever" that you can practice at specific times of the day. Last year someone in the cabin next to us brought a guitar and played out on their balcony (next to ours). They did not play poorly, and they did not play at unreasonable hours, but I would have preferred sitting out on my balcony WITHOUT the guitar accompaniment.

[crusinbanjo]

To OP: I kind of skipped over all of the posts and did not read them, but....ask staff if there is an empty room/lounge "where ever" that you can practice at specific times of the day. Last year someone in the cabin next to us brought a guitar and played out on their balcony (next to ours). They did not play poorly, and they did not play at unreasonable hours, but I would have preferred sitting out on my balcony WITHOUT the guitar accompaniment.

And I would prefer that folks don't smoke cigars on the balcony next to me, and I would prefer that the neighbors don't have a party on the balcony next door, or snore when they are sleeping..... Well I think that makes my point!

[mightycruisequeen]

And I would prefer that folks don't smoke cigars on the balcony next to me, and I would prefer that the neighbors don't have a party on the balcony next door, or snore when they are sleeping..... Well I think that makes my point!
I couldn't agree with you more, crusinbanjo:)

[Toad]

BTW, I am an opera singer and I always practice by scales at sunrise on my balcony, ok?

[crusinbanjo]

BTW, I am an opera singer and I always practice by scales at sunrise on my balcony, ok?

Go for it!

[lorekauf]

BTW, I am an opera singer and I always practice by scales at sunrise on my balcony, ok?
Only if you are smoking a cigar and having a party at the same time.

[irukandjisting]

Just came off a P and O Australia cruise

I took my violin on board as I am still learning - it's an electric with volume control

Nobody ever heard me play - I checked with neighbouring cabin

I use to play the ship pianos in the wee hours of the morning while the cleaning staff were vacuuming etc

Couldn't possibly sail without them

"Beyond The Seas".... laa laa:cool:

(Couldn't tell you how many times we had to up and go as we 'forgot' - this is the Smokers area - and people in balcony cabins had a hard time with continual wafting smoke and noise often from over indulged drinkers/smokers at 3am)

[MD_Dan]

Please read my thread from a few years ago:
http://boards.cruisecritic.com/archive/index.php/t-1229873.html

Royal Caribbean let my daughter practice flute and french horn in the club area at the top of the ship. The room was very sound proof. They asked that we do it between 8-10 am. I don't think anyone was disturbed.

You need to ask permission first.

[tandkquinn]

...because if you bring it and play it, a torch- and pitchfork-bearing mob will toss it overboard.

[CI66774]

As long as the cruise line allows it and it's not a disturbance, I don't see an issue. However, if someone plays an instrument, music, screams, sings, etc in the cabin next door (beneath me, above me, etc) and I'm trying to sleep, etc - be prepared to be told to stop - I have a long memory and I will get you back when you least expect it, if you don't. :)

[crusinbanjo]

...because if you bring it and play it, a torch- and pitchfork-bearing mob will toss it overboard.

Oh PLEASE...... Why are some folks so cruel. Are you going to lead the mob?

[mightycruisequeen]

...because if you bring it and play it, a torch- and pitchfork-bearing mob will toss it overboard.
I disagree. I think you'll find that the reactions of fellow pax on the ship will be much more tolerant and courteous than most of the responses on this thread.:)

[Jo-Bob]

[quote=crusinbanjo;32385002]Oh PLEASE...... Why are some folks so cruel. Are you going to lead the mob?[/quone]


Think he might be referring to the tendancy of some topics to bring out/on the 'mob mentality' that can develop on these boards....you know, pile it on, pile it on....some sort of validation in numbers, I guess. I don't get it, but it happens all the time on the boards. I agree with the poster who says what you read here and what you experience on the ship is much, much different....despite the efforts of the mob to have you believe that what is preached here, is gospel there. (on board)

Instruments or not, it really all boils down to respect.

[sapper1]

Oh PLEASE...... Why are some folks so cruel. Are you going to lead the mob?
I think you are misreading this post. I took it as a humourous tongue in cheek remark. Dry humour is hard to explain to someone else. You either get it or you don't. Canadians and Brits are more used to it than Americans, whose humour is more "in your face".

[Lady Chew]

...because if you bring it and play it, a torch- and pitchfork-bearing mob will toss it overboard.

now, now ... you know we wouldn't be allowed to bring torches & pitchforks on board! I guess we'd have to settle for BIC lighters & forks from the dining room.

[kazu]

now, now ... you know we wouldn't be allowed to bring torches & pitchforks on board! I guess we'd have to settle for BIC lighters & forks from the dining room.


good one Laura:D:p:D

[Kiwi Kruzer]

If you played the spoons, would you be allowed to bring your own ,
or would you have to use the ships ones?

I would prefer my own , as they are specially bent.:D

[irvington]

I've got a serious question on this, but not sure if anyone will still be reading.:)

It didn't occur to me until reading this, but I guess I'm hearing that some will be bothered by an instrument that can be played below the volume of much TV watching or cocktail party conversation? This doesn't relate to the original post about the bassoon, but I was planning on letting my son bring his guitar. He is certainly capable of playing it as softly as the TV or adult conversation (or snoring for that matter). Are the rooms much more sound-transmitting than regular hotel rooms? Is it bad form to watch TV or listen to a CD on a laptop?

I'm in the camp that would be thrilled if Yo-Yo Ma were traveling with me, but I'm certainly not out to upset others.

[RuthC]

It didn't occur to me until reading this, but I guess I'm hearing that some will be bothered by an instrument that can be played below the volume of much TV watching or cocktail party conversation? This doesn't relate to the original post about the bassoon, but I was planning on letting my son bring his guitar. He is certainly capable of playing it as softly as the TV or adult conversation (or snoring for that matter). Are the rooms much more sound-transmitting than regular hotel rooms? Is it bad form to watch TV or listen to a CD on a laptop?
The cabins have decent soundproofing, although I was once told that some serious coughing I was doing was heard from my bathroom into the next cabin. I suspect the sound traveled through the air duct.

So long as your son keeps his music playing low enough that he can't be heard outside his own cabin, then no one would have a complaint. They wouldn't know about it!

[mightycruisequeen]

If you're talking about an accoustic guitar, I can't imagine anyone on your sailing having a problem with that.
You might find PLENTY of posters on this board who would claim to have issues, but, don't worry; they're not going to be on your cruise! :D

[irvington]

Thanks so much! Yes, acoustic. We are pretty quiet people generally, so I don't think of us offending others (with that, at least), but just wanted to check in.