BIGDADDY2587

June 13th, 2012, 03:13 AM

Red or Black you decide

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BIGDADDY2587

June 13th, 2012, 03:13 AM

Red or Black you decide

RANTHEMAN

June 13th, 2012, 01:23 PM

Neither...put your money back in your pocket and go to the bar and have a drink.

cb at sea

June 13th, 2012, 03:12 PM

You'll have to wait a couple hours after departure.....I'd bet on EVEN, instead!

Casino Player

June 14th, 2012, 02:20 AM

Red or Black you decide

HHHHHEEEEELLLLLLLLLLOOOOO BIGDADDY2587: Either bet is a bad bet. Here is why, regardless of which bet you make you have 18 chances to win and 20 chances to lose. However, should you win you are getting back only even money. You can decide if that is a good bet.

There is a better bet. Go the the Craps table. Bet on the Pass Line. That is an even money bet. Once a point number is established you could make an associated bet with your Pass Line bet. It is called an odds bet. That bet is one of the few bets in the casino that actually pays true odds. You can decide if that is a better bet or not.

HHHHHEEEEELLLLLLLLLLOOOOO BIGDADDY2587: Either bet is a bad bet. Here is why, regardless of which bet you make you have 18 chances to win and 20 chances to lose. However, should you win you are getting back only even money. You can decide if that is a good bet.

There is a better bet. Go the the Craps table. Bet on the Pass Line. That is an even money bet. Once a point number is established you could make an associated bet with your Pass Line bet. It is called an odds bet. That bet is one of the few bets in the casino that actually pays true odds. You can decide if that is a better bet or not.

BIGDADDY2587

June 14th, 2012, 03:12 AM

Yea craps is my usual but last time had some fun @ roulette !

evergladesgator

June 14th, 2012, 11:47 AM

17% odds against ya at the table.:eek:

Gig103

June 17th, 2012, 02:19 AM

17% odds against ya at the table.:eek:

House advantage is 5.26% (per Wizard of Odds). That's still horrible compared to 1.4% on the pass line, 0% on the odds! :D

House advantage is 5.26% (per Wizard of Odds). That's still horrible compared to 1.4% on the pass line, 0% on the odds! :D

Casino Player

June 18th, 2012, 10:16 AM

House advantage is 5.26% (per Wizard of Odds). That's still horrible compared to 1.4% on the pass line, 0% on the odds! :D

HHHHHEEEEELLLLLLLLLLOOOOO Gig103: In actuality when you take odds in craps the House edge slips. If you play the Pass Line and take odds the House edge is actually less than 1%. This information comes from Sharpshooter.

HHHHHEEEEELLLLLLLLLLOOOOO Gig103: In actuality when you take odds in craps the House edge slips. If you play the Pass Line and take odds the House edge is actually less than 1%. This information comes from Sharpshooter.

sept10dsm

June 18th, 2012, 10:42 AM

I have never played craps and really don't understand it. What does the pass line mean? Thanks!

4hunters

June 20th, 2012, 12:48 PM

I have never played craps and really don't understand it. What does the pass line mean? Thanks!

The pass line is one of the primary bets most of us craps shooters play. There are about a million beats (almost, haha) on a craps layout, but only a few are actually a good bet for the player (low house edge). Check out the following site if you're interested in playing craps: wizardofodds.com

The pass line is one of the primary bets most of us craps shooters play. There are about a million beats (almost, haha) on a craps layout, but only a few are actually a good bet for the player (low house edge). Check out the following site if you're interested in playing craps: wizardofodds.com

getaway101

June 23rd, 2012, 01:39 PM

Craps actually has the best odds in the house. Just wish I was brave enough to bet more than the pass line. I roll and see everyone making money on my roll........just call me chicken:rolleyes:

MrCo9

June 25th, 2012, 03:20 PM

Hi Chicken.

Pass Line is where 95% of craps players make the most basic of bets. When there is no point, you are "Coming out" (looking for a point number 4, 5, 6, 8, 9 or 10) to be rolled. Until one of those numbers is rolled you win if the shooter rolls a 7 or 11 (8 combinations), you lose if a 2, 3 0r 12 (4 combinations) is rolled. Once the shooter rolls a point number ( 4, 5, 6, 8, 9 or 10) you win if that number is repeated, you lose if a 7 is rolled. See, simple.

The odds are based on how many ways the point number can be rolled versus the 6 ways a 7 can be rolled. There are 5 ways to roll a 6 or 8, so, the odds pay 6:5. There are 4 ways to roll a 5 or 9, so, the odds pay 6:4 or 3:2. There are 3 ways to roll a 4 or 10, so, the odds pay 6:3 or 2:1.

Pass Line is where 95% of craps players make the most basic of bets. When there is no point, you are "Coming out" (looking for a point number 4, 5, 6, 8, 9 or 10) to be rolled. Until one of those numbers is rolled you win if the shooter rolls a 7 or 11 (8 combinations), you lose if a 2, 3 0r 12 (4 combinations) is rolled. Once the shooter rolls a point number ( 4, 5, 6, 8, 9 or 10) you win if that number is repeated, you lose if a 7 is rolled. See, simple.

The odds are based on how many ways the point number can be rolled versus the 6 ways a 7 can be rolled. There are 5 ways to roll a 6 or 8, so, the odds pay 6:5. There are 4 ways to roll a 5 or 9, so, the odds pay 6:4 or 3:2. There are 3 ways to roll a 4 or 10, so, the odds pay 6:3 or 2:1.

Casino Player

June 26th, 2012, 02:22 AM

Craps actually has the best odds in the house. Just wish I was brave enough to bet more than the pass line. I roll and see everyone making money on my roll........just call me chicken:rolleyes:

HHHHHEEEEELLLLLLLLLLOOOOO getaway101: What MrCo9 says is true. After a point is established and you wish to make more bets then you can make what is called a Come Bet. A Come Bet acts like a Pass Line bet after a point is established. The Point is the number you are shooting for. If a seven or eleven is rolled you win even if other bets lose. If a craps 2,3,12 is rolled you lose your Come bet. If a 4,5,6,8,9, or 10 is rolled next that becomes your Come Point and the bet is like a Pass Line bet. You win if that number is rolled again or lose if seven is rolled first. You could take odds on your Come bets and they pay at true odds. Just like the Pass Line bets.

There is one more type of bet you should be familiar with. It is called a Place Bet. After a Point is established you could place bets directly on numbers. Just throw the chips toward the center of the table and in an audible mumble mention the number you would like the bet on. It does not pay at true odds. The numbers 6 & 8 must be made in multiples of six. If a minimum bet is $10 then you must make $12 minimum bets. It pays back at 7-6. If you Place the 5 & 9 the bet must be in multiples of five. $5, $10, etc, etc... The 5 & 9 if your Place Bet wins pays off at 7-5. If you Place the 4 & 10, again in multiples of five, your return is 9-5.

HHHHHEEEEELLLLLLLLLLOOOOO getaway101: What MrCo9 says is true. After a point is established and you wish to make more bets then you can make what is called a Come Bet. A Come Bet acts like a Pass Line bet after a point is established. The Point is the number you are shooting for. If a seven or eleven is rolled you win even if other bets lose. If a craps 2,3,12 is rolled you lose your Come bet. If a 4,5,6,8,9, or 10 is rolled next that becomes your Come Point and the bet is like a Pass Line bet. You win if that number is rolled again or lose if seven is rolled first. You could take odds on your Come bets and they pay at true odds. Just like the Pass Line bets.

There is one more type of bet you should be familiar with. It is called a Place Bet. After a Point is established you could place bets directly on numbers. Just throw the chips toward the center of the table and in an audible mumble mention the number you would like the bet on. It does not pay at true odds. The numbers 6 & 8 must be made in multiples of six. If a minimum bet is $10 then you must make $12 minimum bets. It pays back at 7-6. If you Place the 5 & 9 the bet must be in multiples of five. $5, $10, etc, etc... The 5 & 9 if your Place Bet wins pays off at 7-5. If you Place the 4 & 10, again in multiples of five, your return is 9-5.

Casino Player

June 27th, 2012, 01:41 AM

Craps actually has the best odds in the house. Just wish I was brave enough to bet more than the pass line. I roll and see everyone making money on my roll........just call me chicken:rolleyes:

HHHHHEEEEELLLLLLLLLLOOOOO getaway101: Forgot to mention yesterday, the advantage of the place bet is you could take it down anytime you want.

HHHHHEEEEELLLLLLLLLLOOOOO getaway101: Forgot to mention yesterday, the advantage of the place bet is you could take it down anytime you want.

jsmeeker

June 29th, 2012, 12:10 AM

Red or Black you decide

Put it on the yo!!

Put it on the yo!!

Casino Player

July 1st, 2012, 08:36 PM

Put it on the yo!!

HHHHHEEEEELLLLLLLLLLOOOOO jsmeeker: Putting your money on the yo is worse than putting it on the red or black.

HHHHHEEEEELLLLLLLLLLOOOOO jsmeeker: Putting your money on the yo is worse than putting it on the red or black.

jsmeeker

July 1st, 2012, 10:40 PM

HHHHHEEEEELLLLLLLLLLOOOOO jsmeeker: Putting your money on the yo is worse than putting it on the red or black.

not if it hits!! 15-1, baby!

They call it gambling for a reason. All the talk about expected house edge is over the LONG haul. A one off, one roll, one spin, one hand bet (what the OP seems to want) isn't the long haul.

now, if you are talking about putting it on the yo over and over and over vs. red/black over and over and over, you are right.

not if it hits!! 15-1, baby!

They call it gambling for a reason. All the talk about expected house edge is over the LONG haul. A one off, one roll, one spin, one hand bet (what the OP seems to want) isn't the long haul.

now, if you are talking about putting it on the yo over and over and over vs. red/black over and over and over, you are right.

spunks

July 11th, 2012, 10:49 AM

Should you bet red, or black???...hmmmm

Let me just ask my friend, Dirty Harry......

Ok...he says..."well, punk...ya just gotta ask yourself...Do I feel lucky?"

Doug

Let me just ask my friend, Dirty Harry......

Ok...he says..."well, punk...ya just gotta ask yourself...Do I feel lucky?"

Doug

Sinppu

July 16th, 2012, 02:56 PM

Always bet on black. ;)

Casino Player

July 18th, 2012, 10:44 AM

Always bet on black. ;)

HHHHHEEEEELLLLLLLLLLOOOOO Sinppu: "Always bet on black." You have 18 chances to win. 20 chances to lose. And, you only receive even money if you win. Does that sound like a good bet to you? It sure doesn't to me.

HHHHHEEEEELLLLLLLLLLOOOOO Sinppu: "Always bet on black." You have 18 chances to win. 20 chances to lose. And, you only receive even money if you win. Does that sound like a good bet to you? It sure doesn't to me.

Sinppu

July 18th, 2012, 11:19 AM

HHHHHEEEEELLLLLLLLLLOOOOO Sinppu: "Always bet on black." You have 18 chances to win. 20 chances to lose. And, you only receive even money if you win. Does that sound like a good bet to you? It sure doesn't to me.

Hello. I'm a dealer so no need to quote chances to me.

The OP asked should they bet on Red or Black. Does that sound like question about chances or craps rules?

It sure doesn't to me.

Hello. I'm a dealer so no need to quote chances to me.

The OP asked should they bet on Red or Black. Does that sound like question about chances or craps rules?

It sure doesn't to me.

Casino Player

July 19th, 2012, 02:03 AM

Hello. I'm a dealer so no need to quote chances to me.

The OP asked should they bet on Red or Black. Does that sound like question about chances or craps rules?

It sure doesn't to me.

HHHHHEEEEELLLLLLLLLLOOOOO Sinppu: I don't know if you are a dealer or not. How would I know? Second, where in what I wrote does it mention craps rules? You are reading something into my statement that simply is not there.

The OP asked should they bet on Red or Black. Does that sound like question about chances or craps rules?

It sure doesn't to me.

HHHHHEEEEELLLLLLLLLLOOOOO Sinppu: I don't know if you are a dealer or not. How would I know? Second, where in what I wrote does it mention craps rules? You are reading something into my statement that simply is not there.

Sinppu

July 19th, 2012, 03:34 AM

HHHHHEEEEELLLLLLLLLLOOOOO Sinppu: I don't know if you are a dealer or not. How would I know? Second, where in what I wrote does it mention craps rules? You are reading something into my statement that simply is not there.

Maybe you shouldn't treat people like you know better than they do (before you do know better). Craps advice from you is all over this thread (in case you've forgotten your previous posts).

Go ahead OT if you like. Just don't expect everyone else to do the same ;)

Maybe you shouldn't treat people like you know better than they do (before you do know better). Craps advice from you is all over this thread (in case you've forgotten your previous posts).

Go ahead OT if you like. Just don't expect everyone else to do the same ;)

dukyluky

August 8th, 2012, 07:22 PM

At the roulette table..i would get 20 - $5 chips: and bet the following.

1 chip on each number -

13, 14, 15, 16, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23

2 chips on 17 and 24

1 chip on each of the following corners

13, 14, 16, 17

14, 15, 17, 18

16, 17, 19, 20

17, 18, 20, 21

19, 20, 22, 23

20, 21, 23, 24

Here is the payout for landing on 13-24

13, 15, 22 - $214

14, 16, 18, 19, 21, 23 - $255

20 - $335

24 - $390

17 - $510

you'll have a third of the wheel covered and you will either more than double your money and possible over 5x your money...of course if it hits 0,00, 1-12, 25-36...you loose...but its a better payout than betting black or red. Of course you could do the same thing with the 1-12 or 25-36 groups of numbers

Just my 100 bucks worth!!!

1 chip on each number -

13, 14, 15, 16, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23

2 chips on 17 and 24

1 chip on each of the following corners

13, 14, 16, 17

14, 15, 17, 18

16, 17, 19, 20

17, 18, 20, 21

19, 20, 22, 23

20, 21, 23, 24

Here is the payout for landing on 13-24

13, 15, 22 - $214

14, 16, 18, 19, 21, 23 - $255

20 - $335

24 - $390

17 - $510

you'll have a third of the wheel covered and you will either more than double your money and possible over 5x your money...of course if it hits 0,00, 1-12, 25-36...you loose...but its a better payout than betting black or red. Of course you could do the same thing with the 1-12 or 25-36 groups of numbers

Just my 100 bucks worth!!!

peepaw

August 10th, 2012, 07:54 PM

But did he win!!??

Harry and Lucille

August 11th, 2012, 01:36 PM

I would put $50 on each. Red and Black. Walk out ahead of approx. 97.2946 percent of the players in there the first nite. :D

4hunters

August 23rd, 2012, 09:38 AM

I would put $50 on each. Red and Black. Walk out ahead of approx. 97.2946 percent of the players in there the first nite. :D

You do realize that the 0 or 00 would surely come up if you made such a silly bet. ;)

You do realize that the 0 or 00 would surely come up if you made such a silly bet. ;)

OneStrangeGuy

August 23rd, 2012, 10:20 AM

$50 on red, $50 on black!:D

CELTICGIRLCRUISER

August 23rd, 2012, 10:22 AM

Black for me.

joe6666

August 24th, 2012, 11:59 AM

At the roulette table..i would get 20 - $5 chips: and bet the following.

1 chip on each number -

13, 14, 15, 16, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23

2 chips on 17 and 24

1 chip on each of the following corners

13, 14, 16, 17

14, 15, 17, 18

16, 17, 19, 20

17, 18, 20, 21

19, 20, 22, 23

20, 21, 23, 24

Here is the payout for landing on 13-24

13, 15, 22 - $214

14, 16, 18, 19, 21, 23 - $255

20 - $335

24 - $390

17 - $510

you'll have a third of the wheel covered and you will either more than double your money and possible over 5x your money...of course if it hits 0,00, 1-12, 25-36...you loose...but its a better payout than betting black or red. Of course you could do the same thing with the 1-12 or 25-36 groups of numbers

Just my 100 bucks worth!!!

Seems to me that you are betting against yourself when you cover a third of the wheel, or any large group of numbers.

They all can't come up.

A simple example would be if you played black and 17.

You might hit black and you might hit 17 and you might hit both

But if you play red and 17 you could hit either 17 or you could hit red, but you could not hit both.

So why set up a bunch of chips that couldn't all hit?

1 chip on each number -

13, 14, 15, 16, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23

2 chips on 17 and 24

1 chip on each of the following corners

13, 14, 16, 17

14, 15, 17, 18

16, 17, 19, 20

17, 18, 20, 21

19, 20, 22, 23

20, 21, 23, 24

Here is the payout for landing on 13-24

13, 15, 22 - $214

14, 16, 18, 19, 21, 23 - $255

20 - $335

24 - $390

17 - $510

you'll have a third of the wheel covered and you will either more than double your money and possible over 5x your money...of course if it hits 0,00, 1-12, 25-36...you loose...but its a better payout than betting black or red. Of course you could do the same thing with the 1-12 or 25-36 groups of numbers

Just my 100 bucks worth!!!

Seems to me that you are betting against yourself when you cover a third of the wheel, or any large group of numbers.

They all can't come up.

A simple example would be if you played black and 17.

You might hit black and you might hit 17 and you might hit both

But if you play red and 17 you could hit either 17 or you could hit red, but you could not hit both.

So why set up a bunch of chips that couldn't all hit?

wsirianni

August 27th, 2012, 10:54 AM

soooo did you win?