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jkrislc
April 28th, 2004, 06:35 PM
I was just thinking about the C&A program and how my three three night cruises and my one seven night cruises have put me on the brink of "diamond" status. I've also heard others mention that they often take the short cruises to upgrade their status. As a result, I was wondering if the cruise lines should base loyalty status on the number of nights cruised. It be like the airlines using miles for frequent flier status rather than flight segments.

Just curious as to what others thought about this. I suppose it could also be done on a dollar spent system, room category, etc.

I'm not advocating the change, but I was curious why they do it the way they do as there is no distinction between someone who reaches diamond status cruising 35 or more nights (assuming 7 night or longer cruises), versus someone who has cruised less than half that (15 nights if they were all three nighters).

KLC
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Star Princess (6/03)
RCI's Rhapsody of the Seas (4/01)
Carnival's Ecstasy (6/96)
RCI's Viking Serenade (1/94)

BaumD
April 28th, 2004, 06:51 PM
You are not on the verge of Diamond, but on the verge of Platinum (after 5 cruises). To become Diamond, you need to complete 10 cruises.

gene624
April 28th, 2004, 07:15 PM
Ought to be based on DOLLARS spent.

Lynnees
April 28th, 2004, 07:22 PM
They've made a couple of changes lately. 2 credits for 12 nights and over and 2 credits for js and up. If you take 12 night and js or higher you get 3 credits.

I don't have a problem with the way they're doing it.

Marilyn

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banderboo
April 28th, 2004, 07:22 PM
I think that is a wonderful idea.

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dougp26364
April 28th, 2004, 07:27 PM
Personally, I like it the way it is. Not because I plan on taking a bunch of 3 night cruises in JS cabins for double credit. We have taken two 7 night cruises to Alaska, have a 7 night planned in a JS cabin for the caribbean, have a 3 nighter planned in January and are awaiting announcement of pricing for an 11 or 12 night cruise for September of next year.

I'm not cruising to collect credits, I'm cruising for vacation and relaxation. I don't care if one of the couples dining with us would be diamond members just because they took 5 back to back 3 and 4 night cruises (10 total) to get there, while I'm taking a variety of 3, 7, and 12 night cruises to achieve the same benefits. I like the simplicity of the plan as it is.

I find the airline programs can get confusing at times. Airline FF miles aren't completely based on $$ spent. I might pay $250 for my economy seat while the guy two rows up spends $350. But in economy, we both get the same miles IF we're both the same status in the FF club. If I'm in an elevated catagory, I pick up bonus miles BUT the bonus miles may or may not apply towards elite, premier or whatever catagory for next year. Each year I have to earn status with the airline all over again. And the rules go on and on and tend to get so complicated they have to send out a book to explain them.

No, I prefer that RCI keeps it simple. X # of cruises and you get XYZ benefits. Simple, easy to understand and for the most part straight forward. I like that.

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PhoenixCruiser
April 28th, 2004, 09:05 PM
Agree with Gene, we like the $$$ spent idea http://messages.cruisecritic.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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jkrislc
April 28th, 2004, 09:09 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BaumD:
You are not on the verge of Diamond, but on the verge of Platinum (after 5 cruises). To become Diamond, you need to complete 10 cruises.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks for the correction. I always get the two confused as they have the same coupon booklet onboard.

KLC
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PREVIOUS CRUISES
-------------------------
RCI's Monarch of the Seas (01/04)
Star Princess (6/03)
RCI's Rhapsody of the Seas (4/01)
Carnival's Ecstasy (6/96)
RCI's Viking Serenade (1/94)

copperj
April 28th, 2004, 09:26 PM
Nights or dollars spent. We have been on two 7 nights, and 11, and 12 night cruises, (one 7 night and the 11 night a suite) and still are in the lower catergory. Don't really think it is fair for 3-4 nighter cruising 5 times should get bumped up before us.

aqusis
April 29th, 2004, 06:10 AM
I think it should stay based on the number of cruises, not days or $$$$..It's a loyalty program. Folks who take lots of 3-4 day cruises could just as easily take those 3-4 day cruises with Carnival. The purpose of C&A is to build and reward loyalty and encourage folks, regardless of length of cruise, to come back to RCI.

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PH8
April 29th, 2004, 06:15 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> I always get the two confused as they have the same coupon booklet onboard. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

No,they are different.................they do both get the same C&A coupons in the magazine mailed to you,but onboard,Diamond coupons are different...


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Family of 14
April 29th, 2004, 08:13 AM
The only change I would like to see made is to combine our C&A with our Celebrity cruises.

I like the new recent changes made.

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landshark
April 29th, 2004, 08:25 AM
Holland America's credit is earned by number of days cruised.

What exactly does C&A get for you?

dougp26364
April 29th, 2004, 08:25 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Family of 14:
The only change I would like to see made is to combine our C&A with our Celebrity cruises.

I like the new recent changes made.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

If they'd do that, I'd be looking at Celebrity cruises as well as RCI cruises. I'm with you and wish they would combine the two programs or at least have them be recipricol with each other.

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jkrislc
April 29th, 2004, 11:14 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> I always get the two confused as they have the same coupon booklet onboard. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

No,they are different.................they do both get the same C&A coupons in the magazine mailed to you,but onboard,Diamond coupons are different...
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On the shorter cruises, they must be the same as we were accidently given the wrong booklet which said it was for diamond and platinum members.

KLC
UPCOMING CRUISES:
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MONARCH OF THE SEAS (04/04)
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PREVIOUS CRUISES
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RCI's Monarch of the Seas (01/04)
Star Princess (6/03)
RCI's Rhapsody of the Seas (4/01)
Carnival's Ecstasy (6/96)
RCI's Viking Serenade (1/94)

ALANG
April 29th, 2004, 11:25 AM
I personally like the nights cruised idea, additionally some sort of combination with Celebrity would be nice.

klingoncruiser
April 29th, 2004, 11:34 AM
I recently sent an email to RCCL on this topic. I wondered if they should change the levels to add more as it is very easy now to reach 10 cruise. Saddly they did NOT respond. I have sent a second one, so we will see. I had not thought of the nights cruised, but do like the idea. I have taken two 12 night cruises so that works.

ARE YOU LISTENING RCCL? LOOK AT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE WONDERING WHEN THE C&A PROGRAM WILL BE UPGRADED.

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caviargal
April 29th, 2004, 12:29 PM
I have been Diamond for a long time and, IMO, RCI has a lot to learn about loyalty programs. They are incredibly stingy with the most important perk - upgrades! I have never been upgraded free unless I book a GTY and then not by more a category.

I like the nights vs # of cruises and don't agree with the dollars spent idea. Not everyone can afford a balcony or suite but if they spend their $$ loyally with RCI, they should get the benefit.

The coupon book and a mediocre cocktail party are not my idea of customer appreciation. I have been saying this to RCI for years but they do not seem to care.

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jkrislc
April 29th, 2004, 12:53 PM
I personally like the number of nights myself, but also suggested dollars spent to get feedback. With the $$$ issue, I was thinking about those who almost always cruise during peak season, during the holidays, etc. who may spend 2-3x more for the cruise than a few weeks before or after.

KLC
UPCOMING CRUISES:
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MONARCH OF THE SEAS (04/04)
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PREVIOUS CRUISES
-------------------------
RCI's Monarch of the Seas (01/04)
Star Princess (6/03)
RCI's Rhapsody of the Seas (4/01)
Carnival's Ecstasy (6/96)
RCI's Viking Serenade (1/94)

CruiserTK
April 29th, 2004, 01:10 PM
I concur that C&A points should be somehow combined with Celebrity points. After all, they really are the same company. This would encourage cruisers to cruise with either RCI or Celebrity -- all bases would be covered. We wouldn't have to try the other lines.

PH8
April 29th, 2004, 01:54 PM
KLC~~very interesting..............the coupon book said platinum and diamond on it????????? I have never seen that and I have been on a number of short 3 and 4 nighters on the Sovereign,Majesty and Monarch..........


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jkrislc
April 29th, 2004, 05:21 PM
Parrothead,

Yeah, I thought it was wierd too, but that's how they did it then. Maybe it was a fluke. Unfortunately, we only got Gold this most recent time.

KLC
UPCOMING CRUISES:
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MONARCH OF THE SEAS (04/04)
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PREVIOUS CRUISES
-------------------------
RCI's Monarch of the Seas (01/04)
Star Princess (6/03)
RCI's Rhapsody of the Seas (4/01)
Carnival's Ecstasy (6/96)
RCI's Viking Serenade (1/94)

goodml
April 30th, 2004, 01:40 PM
jkrislc,
If you don't mind me asking, what coupons do they give you in the Gold book?

jkrislc
April 30th, 2004, 11:18 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by goodml:
jkrislc,
If you don't mind me asking, what coupons do they give you in the Gold book?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Free stock (ship) photo w/ purchase of a photo, 2 for 1 drink coupon, free single jackpot bingo card with bingo purchase, $5 match play for casino table games, $12 for $10 slot play (they just give you the $2 when you redeem the coupon), and 5% off a regularly priced logo product.

KLC
UPCOMING CRUISES:
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MONARCH OF THE SEAS (04/04)
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PREVIOUS CRUISES
-------------------------
RCI's Monarch of the Seas (01/04)
Star Princess (6/03)
RCI's Rhapsody of the Seas (4/01)
Carnival's Ecstasy (6/96)
RCI's Viking Serenade (1/94)

want2seaitall
May 1st, 2004, 04:02 AM
NAAAHHH...should definately be on dollars spent...as I am paying for 4 travelors everytime I cruise...I've paid for 12 cruises when you add it all up...some people have platinum status after only paying for 5...definately dollars spent.

I'm glad someone brought this up...not that RCCL is going to change there policy but this erks me...I just booked 4 people on the Serenade for next year in the top category balcony...but it is not a suite so I don't get the 2 credits.

RCCL go by money spent!!!!

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Bonnie Voyager
May 1st, 2004, 06:54 AM
I like the program the way it is now. It is very straightforward and offers the best chance of advancement to all repeat cruisers. Some people never go on a 7-day cruise but do cruise a lot, so being rewarded for # of cruises works for them and those who spend more money (by booking suites) get rewarded even quicker which encourages them to continue booking more cruises in more expensive cabins. I don't think rewarding strictly by $'s spent is fair to the folks who take short cruises in "normal" cabins. Besides, what if I get a really good deal on my cruise, do I get less loyalty credit because I saved money? Am I now supposed to be looking for a more expensive cruise so I can get more credit? I don't think that is what RCCL is trying to accomplish in their Loyalty Program. (of course, it IS what they are trying to accomplish in their business plan!) But I think the Loyalty Program is intended to reward repeat business and that means...more cruises. I typically book 7-day cruises myself and in balcony cabins but not suites. I don't mind that the 3-day cruisers are getting the same credit as I am. I think a cruise is a cruise no matter how long it is. http://messages.cruisecritic.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif I wish Carnival had some repeat passenger perks like RCCL! I'd be Diamond by now! All they give us is a little party (don't get me wrong though, I love the little party http://messages.cruisecritic.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif ). I think Royal Caribbean has a great Loyalty program! Keep it just the way it is now!

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goodml
May 1st, 2004, 07:00 AM
thanks jkrislc

Lynnees
May 1st, 2004, 10:05 AM
Just a couple of questions.

For the person who said he/she is paying for 4 travellers. Each of those travellers is entitled to be an C & A member. Or did you want all the credit for yourself???

Other question, why does it matter how it's done? If someone who takes 10 - 3 night cruises get the diamond perks, what difference does it make to anyone else? RCL isn't going to split the perks of people who earn their status by taking 3 night with others who take 7 or 10 night cruises.

What I'm saying is, what difference does it make? No one is going to get any more just because they cut someone else out..........

Marilyn

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Grandeur of the Seas
Dreamward
Infinity
Azur
Sovereign of the Seas
Serenade of the Seas


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Mark_K
May 1st, 2004, 10:11 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by klingoncruiser:
I recently sent an email to RCCL on this topic. I wondered if they should change the levels to add more as it is very easy now to reach 10 cruise. Saddly they did NOT respond. I have sent a second one, so we will see. I had not thought of the nights cruised, but do like the idea. I have taken two 12 night cruises so that works.

ARE YOU LISTENING RCCL? LOOK AT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE WONDERING WHEN THE C&A PROGRAM WILL BE UPGRADED.

I wrestled with reality for years, Doctor, and I'm happy to state, I finally won out over it. (Harvey 1950)

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want2seaitall
May 1st, 2004, 01:04 PM
Marilyn...with all due respect...What are you talking about??? I'm booking for myself, my husband, and my two children...my husband has the same C and A status as me...however my children aren't receiving any bennies for having cruised with RCCL multiple times. I'm not seeing your point.

It really is very simple...it shouldn't matter the number of cruises you've taken, obviously a 3 day cruise...shouldn't qualify for as much as a 7...they should go by money spent. And with your arguement on what if someone takes 10-3 day cruises...well that would cost quite a bit in the end wouldn't it...thereby...earning quite a few points.

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Carnival Inspiration - June 2003
RCCL Monarch of the Seas - July 2002

Lynnees
May 1st, 2004, 03:26 PM
dentalchic - first I believe I misunderstood you. But I also believe that as far as your kids go, once they are 18 they can then get credit for all the cruises they had while under 18. Mind you, in saying that, I think kids should be getting credit as they earn them and being able to use that credit as they earn it. If that is what you mean, I certainly agree with you.

We do spend a lot on cruising. We usually take a suite, at least a JS, and I'm happy to get the extra credit for that now, but I still don't agree that it should be on money spent.

btw, do you mean the cost of the cabin or the total amount spent while onboard? That's another can of worms I think.

There are so many prices paid for the same thing. I just can't see that being fair either. Then it should be necessary to take into consideration how much it cost to get to the cruise as well. What about those that have airfare included versus those that make their own arrangements?

I think they are being as fair as they can especially with the additon of an extra credit for suites and for 12 nights or longer.

My personal opinion only, but I don't have a problem with the way it is now.

I think it could get too complicated otherwise.

Oh, one other problem I see. Paying in different currency.

Marilyn

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Song of America
Grandeur of the Seas
Dreamward
Infinity
Azur
Sovereign of the Seas
Serenade of the Seas


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want2seaitall
May 1st, 2004, 03:37 PM
Hi Marilyn...I wasn't aware that the kids could claim their cruises after 18...Gesh...I wish my parents had gotten me off to an early start...I'm having to acquire all my perks on my own...lol. As far as money spent...hey it would be a great thing to count all money spent. On the RCCL credit card points system...the name of a ship or RCCL needs to show up as the merchant on the statement in order to claim your points...it could be done the same. Aside from cc payments...you'd have to give some kind of card when purchasing or your c and a number in order to receive credits for your purchaces...it really is a better way to be fair. It works for hotels like the Hyatt...I am a gold member and all of my purchases...even at their spas accrue points that I can use for free nights...I just use my card or number over the phoen. I'm not complaining...although it may sound as I am...they could be like Carnival and not do anything at all. I just think this would be a better way...either way...I'm working reeeeeaaalll hard at getting my Platinum status...it has been tough work...lol

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sailyn
May 1st, 2004, 04:46 PM
The program seems fine the way it is to me. It would be nice if they combined the C&A program with the Celebrity program. It seems like doing this would benefit customers and RCI.

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Lynnees
May 1st, 2004, 05:05 PM
That was they only thing I forgot to say, I too would like to see it combined with Celebrity. Maybe one day................

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Bonnie Voyager
May 1st, 2004, 05:56 PM
Chiming in again to agree that combining C & A with Celebrity's program is a grand idea! I would definitely try Celebrity if it counted toward my C & A credits! Keep the program the way it is, but start counting the # of Celebrity cruises along with the RCCL cruises! And give the same perks for both lines.

Bonnie Voyager...a.k.a. "Bon Voyage"

“Enjoy whatever cruise you choose....just be sure and choose to cruise”

Inspiration 9/99
Triumph 6/00
Victory 8/00
Victory 6/01
Regal Empress 7/01
Explorer of the Seas 4/02
Triumph 6/02
Carnival Legend 10/02
Norwegian Dawn 12/02
Disney Wonder 3/03
Pride 7/03
Explorer of the Seas 4/04
Victory 6/04
Voyager of the Seas 7/04
Carnival Legend 10/04
Majesty of the Seas 6/05
Adventure of the Seas 4/06
...and more in the works :-)

jkrislc
May 1st, 2004, 11:08 PM
Despite the differences of opinion, it does seem that quite a few would like to see C&A based on the number of nights versus number of cruises. Most, however, would rather see the RCI and Celebrity programs combined, which I would be in favor of myself.

I think the program is quite good as it is and I just thought I'd ponder this one with you all since it was going through my mind. RCI has one of the best programs afloat and it would not benefit me at all if they based it on nights cruised versus number of cruises. However, it would bring balance to the program. I agree that $$$ spent would be too difficult, and could potentially punish those who get really good deals or travel a lot of last minute cruises when the prices reach rock bottom.

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bob278
May 2nd, 2004, 01:07 AM
I love how so many varied opinions can come out on these boards on just about anything.

Great points can be made for and against using nights, dollars, 1 cruise = 1 credit and even money spent on board. I hadn't even thought about the currency conversion angle. Another question if you want to count money spent in addition to the cruise fare. How do you credit the air add-on or shore excursion since the cruise line gets only a portion of that? Would tax and port charges count? Isn't this fun?

I am OK with the programs (RCL and Celebrity) as they are but wouldn't mind seeing them combined. I have 8 on RCL (got one by being in a suite in Feb) and 3 on Celebrity (again, got an extra one for a 14-day cruise). How many others like me would be diamond/elite if they were combined? However, that would harm the benefit I find most valuable - priority embarkation and debarkation. If the programs combined, many more people would have the priority and pretty soon the "priority" lines could be longer than the "regular" ones.

Imagine the howls of protest if a third tier of status level was added and the boarding priority and some of the other better perks now took 15 or 20 credits (everyone would forget that they were earned much faster or combined). Maybe they could come up with something new for a third level and make everyone happy and still not break the bank.

For now, I'll keep cruising under the current rules and be very satisfied. I wouldn't want RCL to read this, but my loyalty to their two lines is much more because my wife and I have had great experiences and don't feel any compelling reason to try another line. The C & A and Captain's Club are after thoughts for us.
On second thought, maybe I DO hope they read it and understand that quality and service are what brings most people back.

Bob

Bonnie Voyager
May 2nd, 2004, 04:10 AM
I couldn't agree more Bob! It's the quality and service that counts! If that starts to slip, the C & A perks won't make a bit of difference because the passengers will be sailing on other lines!

Bonnie Voyager...a.k.a. "Bon Voyage"

“Enjoy whatever cruise you choose....just be sure and choose to cruise”

Inspiration 9/99
Triumph 6/00
Victory 8/00
Victory 6/01
Regal Empress 7/01
Explorer of the Seas 4/02
Triumph 6/02
Carnival Legend 10/02
Norwegian Dawn 12/02
Disney Wonder 3/03
Pride 7/03
Explorer of the Seas 4/04
Victory 6/04
Voyager of the Seas 7/04
Carnival Legend 10/04
Majesty of the Seas 6/05
Adventure of the Seas 4/06
...and more in the works :-)

want2seaitall
May 2nd, 2004, 06:22 AM
bob...that just made me think...as we all know...cruising is very addicting...thereby "users" keep "using" year after year...sometimes more than once a year...at some point most will be at diamond status and have early boarding perks...now how is that going to work???

Serenade of the Seas - April 2005 - Our first balcony!!!
RCCL Majesty of the Seas - April 2004
Carnival Inspiration - June 2003
RCCL Monarch of the Seas - July 2002