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novellaherman
February 21st, 2006, 11:19 PM
My sister-in law is taking her first cruise, April 1 aboard the Glory. She got her birth certificate today and the birthday is off by one day. She has may 8 on her drivers license and it says may 7 on the BC. She thinks the mistake is because she was born at 12:45 am...........it was on a military base and perhaps on military time so maybe that was the mistake...............anyway what should she do...........we don't have a lot of time...........she mailed away for her BC over a month ago.......... Would this even be a problem? She also has a marriage license. HELP
novella

*CruiseFan*
February 21st, 2006, 11:21 PM
She goes to the local vital records in your town early and picks it up herself. It takes a scant minute as long as you arrive early :)

novellaherman
February 22nd, 2006, 01:08 AM
She doesn't live in the state where she was born..........could she still go to her local office?

Lakeman953
February 22nd, 2006, 01:22 AM
She doesn't live in the state where she was born..........could she still go to her local office?

No, you will have to contact the state you were born in:(
Have thought about going and getting a Passport, That might be an option:confused:

Yancey_Elsa
February 22nd, 2006, 01:26 AM
She doesn't live in the state where she was born..........could she still go to her local office?

She has to obtain the new certificate from the state that originally issued it. FYI .. this might not be an easy thing to do. She may want to call the vital records department of the state she received it from and find out if there are any additional documents she needs to provide. Not sure how long you have but you should know that these things often take time.

dms_cruisers04
February 22nd, 2006, 01:32 AM
Novella, have her call Carnival and see what they say. I don't think it is going to be that big of a problem with them.
Her next option would be to call vital records and find out how involved getting it corrected would be.
Don't let her try for a passport til she has done these as she will need to send the bc copy with the passport application. If she doesn't get it back in time, even with expediting it, then she'll have no id.
Hope it works out.

Hollyspop
February 22nd, 2006, 07:50 AM
Seems to me that the obvious quickest and cheapest thing to do is to go to the drivers licence office and have that date changed even if it's wrong. Just tell them they made a mistake and show em the license.

mrdood
February 22nd, 2006, 07:59 AM
Seems to me that the obvious quickest and cheapest thing to do is to go to the drivers licence office and have that date changed even if it's wrong. Just tell them they made a mistake and show em the license.

Pay the small fee and get the DL corrected - tell Carnival the correct date.

Hollyspop is right on!

Handle63
February 22nd, 2006, 08:58 AM
I also have the same sort of problem my BC has my name spelled wrong. It is spelled YEAnadas instead of LEOnadas.also carnival has lee on the reservations but the BC has my full name. I never really tought of it before until I saw this thread. The last cruise I was on (98) I only needed my DL or ID card. I guess I got some calls to make.

dms_cruisers04
February 22nd, 2006, 09:25 AM
Pay the small fee and get the DL corrected - tell Carnival the correct date.

Hollyspop is right on!Maybe I read it wrong, as it was quite late last night when I saw this, but I think the problem is the BC date, not the driver's license.

klfrodo
February 22nd, 2006, 09:32 AM
Maybe I read it wrong, as it was quite late last night when I saw this, but I think the problem is the BC date, not the driver's license.

It's off by 1 day.
Which is faster, go thru the whole process and get a new BC? Or drive to the the local DL office with BC in hand and say DL is wrong and get new DL on the spot?

dms_cruisers04
February 22nd, 2006, 09:53 AM
It's off by 1 day.
Which is faster, go thru the whole process and get a new BC? Or drive to the the local DL office with BC in hand and say DL is wrong and get new DL on the spot?That would depend on what "the whole process" envolves. If it's just an information print onto a vital records BC form, like my DD's is, then getting it corrected would be minor. Especially compared to getting the BC and the DrLic corrected later.

MrLee
February 22nd, 2006, 10:30 AM
:confused: If she is cruising the caribbean, all she needs is the drivers license until December 31.

novellaherman
February 22nd, 2006, 11:07 AM
I called carnival last night and they didn't think it would be a problem with them but it is not up to them but up to immigration. They suggested calling immigration and explaining........if they say no problem then get the persons name and badge # so if we run into a problem at embarkation then we provide that info. I think the easiest thing might be to take the BC with the wrong date and take it down and get a state issued ID with the incorrect info. Then just call Carnival and change their info. Use the drivers license as a back up only if needed.........I know this would we a little white lie, but since we leave in 1 month and I think getting the BC set right would take a bit of work.
thanks everyone, I appreciate your help

kenth59
February 22nd, 2006, 11:17 AM
:confused: If she is cruising the caribbean, all she needs is the drivers license until December 31.

MrLee to get on the ship you need your DL and a certified copy of your BC.

bsdmhutch
February 22nd, 2006, 11:19 AM
:confused: If she is cruising the caribbean, all she needs is the drivers license until December 31.

Nope - still need a certified BC too. It's always been that way. Next year, passport required.

dms_cruisers04
February 22nd, 2006, 12:16 PM
I called carnival last night and they didn't think it would be a problem with them but it is not up to them but up to immigration. They suggested calling immigration and explaining........if they say no problem then get the persons name and badge # so if we run into a problem at embarkation then we provide that info. I think the easiest thing might be to take the BC with the wrong date and take it down and get a state issued ID with the incorrect info. Then just call Carnival and change their info. Use the drivers license as a back up only if needed.........I know this would we a little white lie, but since we leave in 1 month and I think getting the BC set right would take a bit of work.
thanks everyone, I appreciate your helpSounds like you've helped figure it out for her. Good luck with immigration, hopefully you won't have to do anything else.

Nliedel
February 22nd, 2006, 12:20 PM
RIght now get in touch with a passport expediting agency and PAY THE MONEY! It's a lot but it saved my behind. I had my passport stolen a week before a trip to Great Britain. They got me a new one without a problem.

martdm
February 22nd, 2006, 12:34 PM
Applying for a passport would require the birth certificate and driver's license info to match so that is not a solution in this case.

We process passport applications in my office and we would require the birth certificate to be corrected before we would process the passport application. An expediting agency only serves the purpose of walking the application directly to the US Department of State offices for you. If there is a mismatch, the USDS would reject it as well.

For what it's worth we've had lots of people be able to get corrected copies the same day from Vital Statistics. Although your sister is out of state, I think it's certainly worth a call to see how quickly they might be able to accomodate her. It could solve the whole problem easily without having to get more incorrect ID or hassle with immigration.

Good luck!

Nliedel
February 22nd, 2006, 12:47 PM
Applying for a passport would require the birth certificate and driver's license info to match so that is not a solution in this case.

We process passport applications in my office and we would require the birth certificate to be corrected before we would process the passport application. An expediting agency only serves the purpose of walking the application directly to the US Department of State offices for you. If there is a mismatch, the USDS would reject it as well.

For what it's worth we've had lots of people be able to get corrected copies the same day from Vital Statistics. Although your sister is out of state, I think it's certainly worth a call to see how quickly they might be able to accomodate her. It could solve the whole problem easily without having to get more incorrect ID or hassle with immigration.

Good luck!

According the the US Passport agency you need:

http://travel.state.gov/passport/get/first/first_830.html

A Birth Certificate
(I cut and pasted here, sorry)

You may prove your identity with any one of these, if you are recognizable:

Previous U.S. passport (mutilated, altered, or damaged passports are not acceptable as proof of identity.)
Naturalization Certificate
Current, valid
Driver's license
Government ID: city, state or federal
Military ID: military and dependentsNOTE: Your Social Security Card does NOT prove your identity.
If none of these are available , you will need:

Some signature documents, not acceptable alone as ID(ex: a combination of documents, such as your Social Security card, credit card, bank card, library card, etc.)
AND

A person who can vouch for you. He/she must
Have known you for at least 2 years,
Be a U.S. citizen or permanent resident,
Have valid ID, and
Fill out a Form DS-71 in the presence of a passport agent.You might also be able to get a State Issued Photo ID. It's just a thought.

martdm
February 22nd, 2006, 01:12 PM
You left out a critical detail. Acquiring a passport requires you provide BOTH proof of citizenship (ie-birth cert., naturalization papers) AND proof of identity (ie-driver's license or other appropriate ID).

The US Department of State requires us to verify all information presented matches (names, dates, etc.) amongst a laundry list of other things so if OPs sister tried to apply with what she's got, it wouldn't fly. If she got a state issued ID with the wrong birthdate on it & used that for a passport she'd be committing fraud.

But, what do I know, I only do it on a daily basis.

MrLee
February 22nd, 2006, 02:27 PM
I don't understand why the birth certificate and someone (Parent/Spouse, etc) vouching for the identity would be a problem.

TxShipShape
February 22nd, 2006, 03:03 PM
I would think the birth certificate would be the ‘document of record’ that all other things are based. In fact I had to show my birth certificate in order to get my DL, so not sure how they could be different. Get the DL changed, enjoy the cruise and get a passport for the next one. (With the may 7th date.)

Just think of the things she will get to do one day earlier; get senior citizens discounts:) , join ARRP (yipes:eek: ) and retire (yea:D ).

If she is stuck on using the 8th as her birthday then just celebrate for two days in a row! After so many years I only use my birthday for one thing. When my DW asks what I want for my birthday I just say “A CRUISE”.:cool:

caprcorn28
February 22nd, 2006, 03:57 PM
I don't understand why the birth certificate and someone (Parent/Spouse, etc) vouching for the identity would be a problem.Cuz that is not the way that it is.

U.S. citizens must present proof of citizenship in the form of a passport (valid or expired for less than 10 years), original birth certificate, state-issued certified copy of a birth certificate from the Department of Health and Vital Statistics, or original Naturalization papers.

Taken from carnival.com: http://www.carnival.com/CMS/Static_Templates/EMB_travel_document.aspx

novellaherman
February 25th, 2006, 01:43 AM
Just wanted to thank everyone for all your help............my sister in law decided to get the drivers license changed and then sort the whole thing out when we return. Perhaps she is the one who is wrong and has been celebrating her B day on the wrong day. I personally did not understand how she got the drivers license in the first place since you must show a BC to get it but she said that she had a hospital one with the date she has been celebrating and the "official" one has the wrong date. Weird. Just so long as we can cruise with no problems I am happy .............my advice was to celebrate her birthday twice and get 2 times as many gifts:-o

hill6
February 25th, 2006, 06:58 AM
May I just ask didn't she have one before to get into school or to get married? Perhaps it was just a typographical errror from the state who issued it. Go there first.

BND
February 25th, 2006, 07:59 AM
I'm confused why the date is wrong to begin with? In every state I've lived in you need your BC to get a driver's license and they use that to confirm your birthdate.

Nliedel
February 25th, 2006, 08:47 AM
I remember thye got the year wrong that my Grandmother was born. She was a January baby and I think someone just kept putting the previous year, just like we do in our checkbooks. She faught it forever, right until she died at 96 in 1983.

zqvol
February 25th, 2006, 09:26 AM
My father had the same situation. Getting the birht certificate changed is not an easy process. Once it is filed the state presumes tha tit is accurate. A change requires proof that it was wrong such as hospital records, affidavits, etc. It can be a very time consuming process (it took my dad over 6 months to get his fixed).

Short term easiest solution is to go with a quick DL change and sort it out when you get home, but truthfully as long as everything matches does it matter?

auntienana
February 26th, 2006, 03:13 PM
I am so glad you deceided to get the drivers liscense changed. I work at the ticket counter of a major airline and I can tell you that if you showed up to go the carribbean with a drivers liscense and birthcertificate that did not match we would not allow you to go. It happens a lot. Can't wait untill everyone has a passport. Many people I see miss vacations because of birthcertificate problems.