The "Joy's "of an inside cabin!!!!!!....

[Roadguy]

Just wonderin,"WHY" I haven't seen this thread??..

It seems many are willin to be critical of those who can and will pay extra for a suite.

Are some suite people snobs? YES, but not ALL.

Because I can afford two cars, do I criticize those that ride the bus?.. NO!!!

Already lookin forward to Our next suite, no apologies!!!

It's only money!!

Zaandam 12/01
Zeiderdam 12/02
Volendam 12/02
Rotterdam 11/03
Maasdam 04/04
Oosterdam 12/04
Veendam 11/05

[jhannah]

Well ... while an inside is not my cup of tea, it is the perfect match for many people. If someone has sleep issues, the total darkness of an inside can be a blessing. The money saved by going inside can allow many folks to sail more often than they could if they spent double, triple or more on a higher category cabin. If you fill your sea days with swimming, sunning, and other shipboard activities, using your cabin mainly as a place to clean up, change clothes, and sleep, then why spend more just to be able to see outside?

No matter what level of cabin we choose, everybody arrives at the pier at the same time, and eats food prepared from the same ingredients in the same kitchen.

So, if I ever want to book and pay for a full suite (never done it yet) then I'll do so without apology. If my circumstances don't allow that, I'll gladly back up and select a lower category cabin so I can still enjoy the cruise experience. Without apology here either. Neither choice makes me a greater or lesser person, and I seriously doubt that there are many (if any) on this board who feel otherwise.

'Vegas Jim

[General Max]

As this will be our first cruise, we booked a suite. I didn't want to get onboard and said "I coulda, woulda, shoulda." Again, living in Florida we will most likely never get back to Alaska.

General Max and Mrs. Max

08/27/2004 Ryndam Alaska

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[tomc]

I've never noticed any bad words about suite pax from those of us in steerage. http://messages.cruisecritic.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif My own opinion is: You earned the money, you spend it as you wish. If you can afford to be in a suite, all the better; I'm happy just to be on the ship in a lower-deck inside share and bear no envy toward those who aren't. I know the suite pax have perks we don't, but they are also paying more; some day, I might be in that position.

Mom always said she'd sleep in a lifeboat if that's what it took to be on board the old Rotterdam.

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[Globaliser]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by General Max:
I didn't want to get onboard and said "I coulda, woulda, shoulda."<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I once booked an outside room (window, no balcony). By the time I got off the ship, I was saying "coulda, woulda, shoulda". I've been back in insides every time since. I found it was a complete waste of my money having a view of the outside, or any extra space - never used any of it. http://messages.cruisecritic.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

But anyone who wants an outside or a balcony or a suite - well, it's your money and you're welcome to those rooms!

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[Orcrone]

I don't think that anyone is critical of everyone that books a suite. If you can afford it, and are comfortable paying it, then great. I could afford it, but I'm not comfortable with the price so I don't book a suite. That's fine too. I'm not sure if I'll ever book a suite, but sometime I would like to book a balcony.

Roadguy, the only way you'd have to apologize for a suite is if you purchased the last one that would have otherwise been my free upgrade. http://messages.cruisecritic.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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4/13/2003 - Carnival Inspiration
10/30/2004 - Maasdam

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[Roadguy]

Good for You!!!!

Our first was an outside, then an "A" , then a suite.
Still lookin forward to gettin to Alaska!!!

It's only money!!

Zaandam 12/01
Zeiderdam 12/02
Volendam 12/02
Rotterdam 11/03
Maasdam 04/04
Oosterdam 12/04
Veendam 11/05

[F5Loar]

If you book the lowest inside you can get there is a greater chance for a free upgrade to get you out of the dark hole while if you book the highest suite you can get you are stuck there.
It's pretty much a no brainer. The inside rooms give a smoother ride, are quieter, and save you so much money you can really enjoy the cruise to it's fullest. More fancy drinks with the little umbrellas in them, more money for photos, excursions,fancy coffee,wine and alternate dining.
More money for casino and bingo which could increase your odds of winning even more money.
Talk about savings for staying inside!

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[Roadguy]

Orcrone,
I don't mind if You do get the upgrade, I book by what I think is reasonable. What others pay is irrelevant, doesn't cost Me anything!!

It's only money!!

Zaandam 12/01
Zeiderdam 12/02
Volendam 12/02
Rotterdam 11/03
Maasdam 04/04
Oosterdam 12/04
Veendam 11/05

[Orcrone]

My inside room is adequate. By that I mean I'll sleep there, change there, shower there, etc. I really don't have enticement to stay there any more than that. If I'm going to the Caribbean, I don't want the extra space and amenities that would make me stay in the room longer. I want to be out and about.

Of course, I wouldn't mind spending time on the balcony, and free laundry would be nice, and priority tendering would be very desirable. OK OK, never mind the previous statement. I'd like a suite.http://messages.cruisecritic.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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4/13/2003 - Carnival Inspiration
10/30/2004 - Maasdam

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[Roadguy]

F5Loar,
What if I am NOT lookin for an upgrade?..
Same reason I don't fly standby, like to know what I have BEFORE I get there.

It's only money!!

Zaandam 12/01
Zeiderdam 12/02
Volendam 12/02
Rotterdam 11/03
Maasdam 04/04
Oosterdam 12/04
Veendam 11/05

[General Max]

Roadguy, you have a great attitude. "It's only money!!!!" Just, like I told Mrs. Max when I booked this cruise, "We are spending the kid's inheritance."

I also told the kids before they left home on their own. "We are not a bank, we don't co-sign and we won't post bail."

General Max

08/27/2004 Ryndam Alaska

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[tomc]

We had a guy on the board one day, rrrreally angry (two-word phrase, second word "off") at HAL. Bitter over how they treated him.

He had booked the cheapest cabin on the ship, expecting an upgrade. Arrived at the pier, found he would be sleeping in the cheapest cabin on the ship. Boy, was he [bad phrase]!

Someone posted, "You cheapskate! You booked the cheapest cabin and that's what you got. HAL didn't cheat you; they gave you exactly what you wanted and what you paid for. Now shut up. Upgrades are a favor and nobody knows where the Upgrade Fairy will sprinkle its Magic Dust."

I always got an upgrade, until the last cruise. Friends asked, "Aren't you disappointed?" I said, "I booked cheap and got cheap. Not at all. An upgrade would have been nice, but I got exactly what I paid for and can afford. I'm happy to be on the ship; it's this cabin or nothing."

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[Orcrone]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Roadguy said:
Same reason I don't fly standby, like to know what I have BEFORE I get there. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I fully agree with you. I booked a specific inside room and many people would wonder why I didn't go for a guarantee. After all, I may wind up with an oceanview, or maybe a balcony. But I selected the room location (center of the ship). I could wind up with a better room, but I could also wind up in an undesirable location, in spite of being upgraded. So I'd prefer to pay for the room I want, and not hope for an upgrade.

After all, the room I want is the one that allows me to lay by the pool, eat in the dining room, watch the shows and visit the ports.

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4/13/2003 - Carnival Inspiration
10/30/2004 - Maasdam

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[Roadguy]

Tomc,
That's too funny, I guess sometimes You get what You deserve, I hope He learned.

Orcone,
That's why I book so far in advance, to get what I want.

It's only money!!

Zaandam 12/01
Zeiderdam 12/02
Volendam 12/02
Rotterdam 11/03
Maasdam 04/04
Oosterdam 12/04
Veendam 11/05

[Tatka]

I've been in outside and inside cabins.

While I can afford outside cabin and suite with a little amount of the time I spend in my cabin I prefer to spend more $$$ for tours and shopping. Hey I don't live in inside cabin at home so I can take "inside" for a week or two.

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<LI>Zuiderdam 8/21/04 FLL - Key West - Cozumel - Grand Caymans - Half Moon Cay - FLL
<LI>Splendour of the Seas 05/15/04 Barcelona - Marseilles - Villefranche - Livorno - Chivitavecchia - Naples - Barcelona
<LI>Century 07/12/03 Eastern Caribbean FFL-San Juan - St. Thomas - St.Maarten- Nassau -FFL
<LI>Komarno(Volga)07/91 Moscow - Astrahan' - Moscow (honeymoon)
<LI>Komarno(Volga)07/90 Moscow - Astrahan'- Moscow
<LI>Admiral Nachimov(or Nakhimov) (Black Sea)04/1986 Odessa - Batum [/list]

GO BRUINS!!!!

[ryansmemom]

I agree with Roadguy. I never anticipate an upgrade. I like to know where I'm going to be before I go. I book a suite, because I can afford it and that is where I am most comfortable. I don't care where anyone else is living while they are on the ship. Frankly it is irrelevant. I assume (I know that can be dangerous) that they have booked the accomodations that suit them and make the most sense to them. We are all on the same journey together, enjoying the same ship, food, entertainment and ports. We can all enjoy each other's company and perhaps make some good friends.

Linda

Thanks for listening

[F5Loar]

Roadguy: You are offered the free upgrade but you don't have to take it. If you don't like the location from the one you selected don't take it. They don't force you to leave.
I was asked nicely to leave a desireable room for 4 as I only had 3 in it. HAL kept making me deals to move to a less desireable location but same category room. I wouldn't go even after some credit kick backs. I book early an inside center for the ride but if I get a 9 category upgrade for Free at the back of the ship I'm taking it!

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[Roadguy]

F5Loar,
You are SO right, IF offered an upgrade, I don't HAVE to take it. BUT I probably WILL as if I do , I'll end up in the penthouse. How do You turn that down?

It's only money!!

Zaandam 12/01
Zeiderdam 12/02
Volendam 12/02
Rotterdam 11/03
Maasdam 04/04
Oosterdam 12/04
Veendam 11/05

[Orcrone]

F5Loar,

I think what Roadguy is saying is that he wants the suite, and doesn't mind paying for the suite. He doesn't want to book something less (say category A) and then hope for the suite. He'd rather just pay for it and not have to get lucky.

If you're fine with the room you selected and then get an upgrade to a better room, great. But don't select a room at a lower category than you want and hope for an upgrade.

1/1990 - RCCL Song of America
4/13/2003 - Carnival Inspiration
10/30/2004 - Maasdam

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[CruisinMatt]

How borning would it be if every cabin was the same category, same size, same amenities, same price! What would we chatter about?? http://messages.cruisecritic.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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[Orcrone]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> What would we chatter about?? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Automatic tipping, degradation of service, kids in the pool, dress code... http://messages.cruisecritic.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://messages.cruisecritic.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://messages.cruisecritic.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_redface.gif

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10/30/2004 - Maasdam

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[General Max]

If you book a suite, what do you get upgraded to? The Penthouse? I don't think so.

General Max

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[Orcrone]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> If you book a suite, what do you get upgraded to? The Penthouse? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>People think of upgrades as being a straight line from bottom to top. It's actually a circle. One person in a level S suite gets upgraded to the penthouse suite, but then the person who booked, and paid for, the penthouse suite gets 'upgraded' to an inside room on the lowest level.

It's called cruiseline musical chairs, and you're our next contestant.

1/1990 - RCCL Song of America
4/13/2003 - Carnival Inspiration
10/30/2004 - Maasdam

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[Jacqueline]

Orocrone was right- last summer I had a huge suite- over 700sq ft and i did feel like I was missing out on the shipboard experience as we were spending so much time on our cabin. I do think that cruising is a group/social experince as its best.
An SS is plenty of space for me, althoug in March I had an inside cabin with my two girls and we had a ball even though it was very crowded and I kept bruising my shin on the fold out chair. MUCH better are the bunks that dont eat up floor space !

Jacqueline
Constellation 3/20/04
HAL Westerdam 7/30/04
Tahitian Princess August 2003
Grand Princess Western Caribbean 2003
Brilliance of the Seas Baltic 2002
Ocean Princess- Alaska 2001
Celebrity Zenith- Bermuda 2001
Grand Princess Med 2000

[Randyk47]

My darling wife has made it easy for us....she has a form of mild claustrophobia so she's only totally comfortable in an outside cabin. Doesn't have to be a suite but she prefers a verandah. Terrible burden for me but I guess I can stand it. http://messages.cruisecritic.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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[FlorenceItaly]

Since you asked.....The "joy's" of an inside cabin for me is being able to take twice as many cruises.

Yes, I would love a suite, and could have one BUT, in MY situation I would be taking fewer cruises.

Marie

HAL - MAASDAM - June 2004/Canada/New England
RCI - Mariner of the Seas,
Sept 2004(CC Group Cruise)
RCI - Rhapsody of the Seas
October 2004


RCI Majesty of the Seas - Spring Break, March 2005
Celebrity Mercury, April 2005
Caribbean Princess, Sept 2005
(CC Group Cruise)

[cruisecrasy]

http://messages.cruisecritic.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif Anyone notice that there are fewer upgrades on guarantees these days - last 2 HAL cruises - no upgrade at all. Don't get me wrong I got what I paid for - no complaints BUT, that said, it is achangin'! Talked to others noticing same thing and not just on HAL either. Happy cruisin' all http://messages.cruisecritic.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

[wander]

With our travel budget and being retired we can easily afford the PH for 2-3 week cruise and that's it for the year. Suites - well probably a month or two of travel. Outside cabin - two or three months. Inside cabin - four months by the world cruise or a combination of other cruises. (Even more is possible if we get really good deals.) For US, not speaking for anyone else, the choice is total no brainer - we go with the inside cabin. Then we travel about four months a year with some combination of cruises, exotic land travel (such as Borneo) and routine land travel (Europe).

Have we ever had an upgrade - Yes. Do we ever "expect" them - never.

Someday if we are still cruising and cannot get around the ship as easily or do not do shore excursions - then a larger room with balcony will be our choice since more time will be spent in our cabin. Besides, the money we now spend on shore explorations will help cover the additional cabin costs.

[kruise54aol.com]

i cruise whenever i can and my budget allows it,i usualy book and inside cabin and sometimes i have had the upgrade fairy find me and have received and upgrade to an outside cabin but you know what its an inside cabin for me, i only use it for sleeping, dressing and relaxing and if someone can afford a suite go for it is my motto, but give me the simple life an inside cabin is fine for me happy cruising everyone.

[iluvcruzin]

I haven't been in a inside cabin for about 15 years. Thats about to change.

I booked my upcoming cruises in reverse. I'm in suites/balconies for my 2005 cruises. I decided since I've already done this itenerary before and I wanted to do a budget cruise, I booked inside. However, I did book a midship in the highest inside category. I do not want a upgrade & hope I don't recieve one.

Once you turn the lights off at night.. I doubt if you can tell if you're inside or out (if you close your curtains that is).

Here's to saving $$ on a inside!

Maureen

MS Maasdam 10/30/2004
Princess Sun 2/27/2005
Mariner of the Seas 10/16/2005

[Cracker Ken]

We do insides too. Quite simply, I can afford more cruises with an inside cabin. On the HAL ships, we like getting one of the large inside cabins I call "sideways cabins" (those having a side door in the middle of the room). One of our cabin stewards called them "inside suites." They are very roomy. We don't book guarantees because we want to select the cabin we want, and stay there. Also, we get good exercise going up and down the steps into steerage. http://messages.cruisecritic.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Ken

Rotterdam 5/03 NE/C
Zuiderdam 8/30/03 E. Carib.
Veendam 11/22/03 W. Carib.
Ryndam 12/21/03 Mexico
Celebrity Mercury - 5/04 Alaska
Next - Caribbean Princess - 9/04

[Santa Fe Jim]

Last year, I booked a B verandah guarantee and that's what I got. Was perfectly happy with it. Then a few months later I got an uncontrollable urge to cruise again soon. That wasn't in the budget (a euphemism for my checking account wasn't as high as I'd like it), so I booked the lowest cat available at the time -- an L guarantee. Sounded fine, since I go mainly to eat and drink and read and write and sleep (things I don't do enough of at home). Turned out I got an upgrade to an F outside. Thought "Oh, that was nice of them". Actually being in an F outside on A deck at the stern wasn't much of an improvement, if any. Window was caked with salt so that I couldn't see anything except whether it was night or day, or how high the waves were. My bed apparently was attached to some mechanism in the thruster, since I was acutely aware of every split-second the thruster was being used. I will be a bit choosy about "upgrades" in the future. But I'm open to anything above Main deck.

SFJ

[Bry]

The only cabin choice that I can't understand is the basic outside. When I'm going on a cruise where I'm just going to sit around (the caribbean, for example), I really prefer to have a balcony of some sort so I can relax and watch the sea go by in "private".

On a port intensive cruise, I'll just take an inside as I'm unlikely to spend much time in the cabin.

The outside seems like the worst of both worlds--more expensive than the inside, but you don't get the balcony to relax on.

[Orcrone]

Bry,

Some people need to see the daylight for their own internal clock. Otherwise, they'll sleep the day away. It's more pleasant having natural light come in. It is also relaxing watching the sea go by as you're sailing.

1/1990 - RCCL Song of America
4/13/2003 - Carnival Inspiration
10/30/2004 - Maasdam

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[heartofamerica]

I've only been on two cruises - one on Celebrity Horizon with in an oceanview cabin, and one on the HAL Zuiderdam on an inside. I spent such a small amount of time in my room on the Horizon that I didn't really care if there was a window, or if the room had a bathtub (haven't taken a sit down bath in 30 years), so I booked a guarantee N category on the Horizon. We were assigned a K category cabin, but I would have been satisfied with the N category. The room was just fine...roomy, comfortable, and quiet. The only "downside" I found was that the total darkness made it hard to tell if it was day or night. But I fixed that by tuning the TV set to the ships camera, and letting the soft music lull me to sleep. If I woke up, I'd glance at the TV...if it was black, it was back to sleep. If I saw a hint of the sun, I'd get up and go enjoy a cup of coffee on the top deck.

I don't feel that anybody in a suite is a snob...Indeed, I met many fine folks on the cruise who were in suites. My daughter found some kids her age to run around with who were in suites. On my future Caribbean cruises, I'll have no problem booking an inside cabin. If I cruise Alaska, then I'd pop for a verandah, since there is considerably more scenery that can be enjoyed from your room.

Bottom line, I really don't care where I sleep...just as long as I'm on the ship!

[Gregg20]

On our first cruise we had an inside cabin on the Destiny and wasn't bad but we obviously didn't have anything to compare it with. Our last 2 cruises were on the Zuiderdam and we had a verandah cabin each time. Now we're spoiled and will probably never settle for an insider.
It's so sweet being able to watch the sun come up during your first coffee.

[RevNeal]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> It's so sweet being able to watch the sun come up during your first coffee. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

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Statendam: Hawaii Cruise Pictures and Video (http://www.revneal.org/hawaiicruise/hawaii.html)
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[Orcrone]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Some people don't rise that early unless they MUST. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>You're assuming that people are getting up early to see the sun rise. They could be seeing it rise before going to bed. http://messages.cruisecritic.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://messages.cruisecritic.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://messages.cruisecritic.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

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4/13/2003 - Carnival Inspiration
10/30/2004 - Maasdam

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Till sailing on the Maasdam

[kruise54aol.com]

that sounds like me i see more beautiful sunrises before i retire for the evening on a cruise. some how they seem more beautiful while on a ship

[Globaliser]

Of course, an inside cabin has some disadvantages - there are some things you can't do (http://messages.cruisecritic.com/2/OpenTopic?a=tpc&s=927093444&f=408097554&m=242100422). http://messages.cruisecritic.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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Jewel of the Seas 1-3 May 2004 - see my review here (http://messages.cruisecritic.com/2/OpenTopic?q=Y&s=927093444&a=tpc&m=904107102&f=069097554), and my photos here (http://community.webshots.com/album/140741580OdzpCX).

[joeinwpb]

http://messages.cruisecritic.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gifI restrict my stateroom to go no higher than just a stateroom with a balcony. That leaves me with a few bucks to visit Señor Frog's.

Roadguy: My bananas just came in. Now I don't have to borrow. http://messages.cruisecritic.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif LOL

Joe

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[RevNeal]

Globaliser,

http://messages.cruisecritic.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif hehehe ... even in an inside cabin it is possible to HEAR your neighbors! That was true on the Nieuw Amsterdam. I had a couple next door -- newlyweds in their 50s -- and did they EVER have some loud evening (and morning, and afternoon!) "activities." It wasn't just the rythmic "thump thump thump" against the wall that left me laughing, it was the sound of moaning, groaning, and (yes) shouting coming through the A/C vent!

Apparently some others thought it was funny too because, after one particularly long and loud marathon late one night -- which ended with what sounded like a howl -- I could hear applause coming from two cabins over. http://messages.cruisecritic.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Yes, this was on HAL. http://messages.cruisecritic.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Greg+
Maasdam: Western Caribbean Cruise Pictures (http://www.revneal.org/wcaribbcruise.html)
Volendam: Wayfarer Cruise Pictures and Video (http://www.revneal.org/volcruise1.html)
Statendam: Hawaii Cruise Pictures and Video (http://www.revneal.org/hawaiicruise/hawaii.html)
Volendam: Alaska Inside Passage Cruise Pictures (http://www.revneal.org/alaska03embark.html)


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[RevNeal]

Doug closed the smoking thread before I could make my suggestion ... it's critical, and helpful, and especially for inside cabins or outside cabins that don't have access to outside and fresh air.

This happened on the Statendam. We had an outside cabin, but no balcony and no ability to access outside fresh air. Our cabin had a pronounced smell of smoke. Sniffing around, it became evident that the smell came most especially from the bed spread. I went down and talked to the front desk about it. They called the Hotel Manager -- Fritz -- and I spoke with him about it. I've had him as Hotel Manager on 3 cruises thus far ... excellent guy. Almost before I could get back to my cabin our steward was in, removing the bed linens and the bed spread and re-making everything.

Just as he finished Fritz showed up. He smelled the old spread and scowled. He then smelled the new bed spread and nodded his head. He then smelled around the cabin and stopped at the couch, where he sniffed and scowled again. "This is very bad." He then explained to me that they didn't have any extra couches available, but that they were inquiring around to find out which cabins had smokers in them and that they would see about swapping one out.

Sure enough, the next day -- during the afternoon -- we got word that they were swapping out our couch with one from another cabin. Our "new" couch smelled just fine, and the one that smelled of smoke was moved to a cabin where (according to his steward) the guest was chain-smoking. I'm not sure the fellow even knew his couch had been swapped out with ours. http://messages.cruisecritic.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

SO ... IF you have trouble with smoke smells, you might want to see about having at least your bed spread swapped. That reduced the problem and, within a day, we couldn't smell anything at all.

In an inside cabin, or a cabin without a balcony and -- hence -- outside air, the problem of smells CAN BE a major one.

Greg+
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Volendam: Wayfarer Cruise Pictures and Video (http://www.revneal.org/volcruise1.html)
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[oceandrive]

I just book the cheapest inside cabin on the Westerdam 1/9. Nowadays with the newer ship, these is no bad cabins. Smaler ones but not bad. This is my own opinion. I'm happy with an inside cabin. quiet and dark at night. The closed circuits TV shows you the outside conditions. It's like a window. And guess what ? I save so much money at I booked TWO weeks back-to-back. Still cheaper than a one week Suite. Everybody disembark, I stay !

Happy new year and happy sailing everyone !

[RevNeal]

It was interesting to read this "blast from the past." I enjoyed it. Some thoughts came to me as I read:

1. Most importantly, inside cabins are cost effective if one is cruising alone with a single supplement. I'm in a J category inside cabin on the Oosterdam next month, and the cost is less than a thousand dollars. To book a outside with verandah would have cost me a good 6 or 7 hundred more. This is a "quicky" cruise, to try out a new ship. :) I wanted to save money.

2. Christopher and I like to take very long cruises. The price of a balcony cabin on 21+ day cruises can be too painful to imagine for someone who has to pay for his cruises on the installment plan! So, another "joy" of the inside cabin is that it enables those of us with less financial liquidity to still get to take the longer, more exotic cruises.

3. In addition to long cruises, I also like cruising more than once a year ... to afford multiple cruises inside cabins are a god-send.

Do I love having outside cabins, and cabins with a balcony? Absolutely, and I've booked A and B category outsides (they used to be called "mini-suits" up until a few years ago), and in Nov of 05 I'll be in an SS category for 2 weeks on the Westerdam.

[iluvcruzin]

This is an old post. As a follow-up to my "pre cruise" post, I found the inside cabin I stayed in on the Maasdam to be just fine. We were in the highest category inside cabin and I requested no upgrade. It worked out perfectly for us and was much cheaper. If I have the opportunity to do this again I would. However, on my next planned cruises I'm sailing with others who prefer the verandah's. In these cases I'm only paying for 1 passenger but if I'm paying for 2 or more.. inside is fine with me.;)

[viennacruiser]

We will be going in our first suite in March, I started my cruising experience with my sister ,we were in bunk beds in an inside.
My DH and I have done outsides, so this is a big jump for us, we can only get away twice a year so saving on an inside would not help us to crusie more often.
Nancy and Mike