Chair Hogs

[SchoolBob]

Help me understand something. If I go out on deck, and hang around and see that someone has not come back to get their stuff in say 20 minutes, I will be moving their towel myself. What's the issue here? They come back an hour later and see theri stiff lying on the deck. I don't care. What are they going to do. Is this rude: probably. However, it is more offensive to "reserve" a char for an entire day.

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[guardhouse]

Just back this week off the Dawn. Perfect Caribbean weather all week.

No chair hogs noticed.....or at least there were always chairs available. We were only at sea one day, but lots of sun bathers in the afternoon each day.

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[ahracer]

What if I've been swimming in the pool for the last 20 minutes??

Scott

[SchoolBob]

hmm. That certainly is a tough one. I am not sure. I guess I will have to use my best judgment in deciding whose stuff I am going to remove. This will be my first cruise so I am not sure what to expect. Everything I have read thus far, has lead me to believe that this is a serious problem. I just wanted to see why people have qualms about removing others' belongings who are obvious offenders.

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[rjack22]

I don't think giving them only 20 minutes is long enough. An hour, maybe. After all they could be in the pool, bathroom, lunch, etc.

If you do take over the chair after only 20 minutes I would be prepared to give it back if they come back soon. But if you know it has been at least one hour, then by all means move the stuff and sit down.

rjack22

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[mii]

I would go for the 1 hour. They may be eating, etc. but if it was me sitting in the chair and wanted to go to have lunch I would remove my things so someone else can have the chair. But not all people are like that. I have been known to want a chair and if the towel is still there on the chair I will remove it and sit down.


Marilyn

[SchoolBob]

See that's the whole thing. If they are going to go eat, then they don't need the chair.

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[jennew]

My husband and I were talking about this issue while we were on the Grand last month. I told him of the chair hog rumors. It never was a problem for us since we liked to sit on our own balcony or we like to walk around when we are on deck.

He said something that totally cracked me up.
"I just don't understand why anyone would want to sit and watch other people swim. What's the attraction?"

He was serious and I still giggle when I think about it...

[JanC]

I think the time limit should be 30 mins. If someone needs to go to the bathroom, or go get a drink from the bar, that is fine. And that would be enough time for a nice swim also. Going to lunch? Not ok. Take your stuff and let someone else have your chair. I don't know if I will be brave enough to move someone's stuff, but hopefully, the staff will do it for me.

WooHoo, cruisin' again in May 2004!

[kbt2]

As far as chair hogging...I think too atleast 30 minutes. We do go get lunch at the buffet and just bring it back to our chairs and eat by the pool. So no, we're never gone for more then 30 minutes.

Kim
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[ahracer]

This is worrying me a little bit. I think it is great the chair hogs are dealt with. With the heated pools on Princess it is nothing for me to spend an hour going from pool to hot tub. I usually pick a chair back away from the pool so I wouldn't see someone moving my stuff. Which brings up another point I leave my my glasses on the chair while i'm swimming. I'd be extremely upset if someone moved my belongings while I was swimming and broke my glasses!!

I think it is easy to see the chair hogs by the one shoe per chair or similar tricks but if someone has their book, towel, shirt, shoes, GLASSES on the chair I think that would be going too far.

Jeez, now I've got to monitor my time in the pool http://messages.cruisecritic.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Scott

[H20 Lover]

Aww the wonderful Chair Hogs. That has to be one thing that I let get to me too much. This one time I noticed this huge family that would reserve all the great chairs next to the pool (well, that's the ones I like) every day. So, I saw this one empty but w/ a towel on it for a while, so I just sat myself down. The lady had a tizzy fit and said it was for her husband. I said I'll get up as soon as he comes back. I kid you not I was there for over 2 hours and no sign of him. They did this every day, like they owned them or something.

Boy, do I feel better now. http://messages.cruisecritic.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

If I'm in the pool, I just keep an eye on my chair. If I go to lunch, I pick up my stuff and leave, so someone else may enjoy the chair.

But, that's just me.

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[coiran]

Chair hogs are a strange bunch - they think because they paid for a cruise a chair by the pool comes with it - WRONG - there are not as many chairs as there are people on any ship, any cruise - The real chair hogs get a paperback from the ship library and a cheap set of sunglasses and get up at 6 am and deposit them on a chair thinking this is their chair for the day, including lunch, breakfast, afternoon naps, etc. WRONG - I cannot believe that anyone needs a chair for the entire day - they would be burnt to a crisp if they laid in them all day. Please let those who would like them, use them.

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[srphnx]

Ok, I agree with the majority of posters.

I would relocate a chair hog if:

It had been 30 minutes, I see them go to lunch, no one looks at me funny as I stand over the chair and look around.

I also think it depends on what is there to be removed.

Towel only.... Yes

Towel and ships library book... Yes

Magazine "Aggrivated Assault Monthly".... No.

Size XXXXL Karate Outfit... No.

I am not chicken but am willing to move on to easier chair hog prey.

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[Murphey]

Yes, I agree, I hate going out to the pool at 9:30 - 10:00 (Geez...it's vacation, I'd like to sleep in) and see all the chairs full. BUT, who stands around for 30 minutes to see if someone comes back???? Is the pool staff supposed to do this??

[karen_cpa]

I think some common sense prevails here - if all you see on a chair is a towel and no sign of a person - I doubt they are in the pool. If they are swimming, wouldn't you expect to see some shoes, sunglasses, clothing on the chair too????? Some sign of life???

People who just drop a towel and run deserve to be booted!

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[SchoolBob]

Yes, that's perfect. "some sign of life"

I agree, if it appears that someone is using the chair, and just in the pool, than I would imagine this would be pretty obvious. I am 6'4" and 220lbs., but I am not into bullying people around; in fact, I am quite docile. However, I am not going to be worried that someone might come back from a leisurely lunch and find their belongings on the deck beside me. I imagine if someone wants to really start trouble, the staff would confine the offender to their quarters.

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[Kallen]

On our last full day on board the Grand in February, it was finally a beautiful, sunny sea day. It was impossible to find a lounge chair and several arguments broke out when, in spite of the notices posted all over, folks reserved chairs and then rarely occupied them. One man, who was obviously an insurance attorney, had quite the loud “discussion” with the deck staff when they stopped him from removing chairs from the teen area so he could have six chairs together for his group. He then tried to argue that, since he couldn’t remove the chairs, he would and could park himself in there. When the deck staff told him that there were insurance issues involved in having adults in the teen area, he attempted to challenge them to an insurance liability debate. He even tried to argue that he was a teen - to no avail (not many teens have a receding hair line and facial wrinkles). Eventually, he grabbed chairs from someplace and put all six together on deck 15, right at the top of the staircase leading up from the dolphin pool, obstructing traffic. He placed his towel and tube of sunscreen on one chair, told his teenaged daughter to occupy the end one and then sat at the bar for the remainder of the afternoon, periodically strolling over and wiping his face on the towel. His wife showed up occasionally and used one of the middle chairs and a couple of others from his party made brief appearances, but otherwise, the chairs sat empty all afternoon. We made sure to comment on the chair-reserving situation on our comment card at the end of the cruise as it spoiled an otherwise perfect day.

Southern on Dawn Princess Feb 28, 2005
Grand Princess Feb 15/04

[guardhouse]

Truly wish I had witnessed this. I would have loved to sit right next to him at the bar, slowly and quietly reciting "jack_ _ _", jack _ _ _" jack _ _ _ "

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[MamaTene]

As I posted on a different chair hog topic, we recently returned from the Sun Princess and I had the best time moving those chair hogs towels, nappy old books, 10cent sunglasses etc to the edge of the pool...let em get all wet! Who cares!

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[Dowser307]

We just took there stuff and threw it on the deck. Only once did someone come back ( an hour later) and say it was there seat. I told them I didnt think so do to the fact we just saw the people get up and said we could have them. They stood there for a min with a stupid look on there face, then picked up there wet book, and cheap sunglasses and left. They left the wet towels laying there.
(Move your feet, lose your seat )

[sneekpeek]

We were recently on the Diamond and you won't have trouble getting a lounge chair. There are more of them than there are passengers. There is a great place to sunbathe on the Diamond so every morning the chairs were "reserved". We would just watch the chair for about 45 minutes (while we ate in the Horizon Court). Then my husband would move the "reserved" chair off to the side and put his own chair where he wanted it. Only once did someone say something to us. We just told her about the 30 minute rule and she said something nasty and walked away.

[JanC]

Dowser,
I think your suggestion is the best so far. I am going to use that on our CP cruise May 15th. I mean, what can that say in response? Great idea!

WooHoo, cruisin' again in May 2004!

[Dowser307]

Way to go Jan, Feel free to use it. Permission Granted. BTW if there Sunglasses are any good, wear them and watch them get really mad, tell them you won them at Bingo !!
LOLOLOL

[Dowser307]

Even better idea sneek,move there chair as far away as possible with there stuff still on it when they come back and say " thays my chair" say no it isnt yours is way over there.
lolololololololol

[JanC]

Dowser, you are a hoot!! LOL!! These are great, I am LMAO!

WooHoo, cruisin' again in May 2004!

[Toto2Kansas]

Last week on the Sun Princess there were actually crew members stationed around the pool removing the towels and books from chairs that were not used within 15 minutes. How refreshing it was to actually be able to sit in a lounge for a change. It ticked off some people, but the majority were thrilled that they are now enforcing the 'no saving of pool chair' rules.

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[Perky1]

What was even funnier was the people who were forced to stay in their loungers when they really wanted to do something else.. for a fear of losing them. All they had to do was go do their other activity..10 chances to 1 there would be a couple of chairs when they returned. Miseralbe with the chair thinking they would be misable without the chairs...

March 30, 2004 Sun Princess

[MaryPoppinz]

"Why, no, this isn't your chair. It's after 2 p.m., so your chair is in the fourth-row-center of the Princess Theater with your sweater and Princess Patter holding your place for the 8 p.m. show."

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[Toto2Kansas]

LOL Yep, you got the picture, and it was wonderful!

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[srphnx]

The same thread went out a while ago on saving of chairs in the theatre, you know 2 people from a group of 11 doing the "stretch".

When we seated ourselves we were told "those are saved". I replied "that was not possible as we sailed the previous cruise also, that we had them saved from over a week ago, all they had to do was check with the seat-saving department at the purser's desk" The look was worth more than a cabin credit for a day at the spa.

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[sue d. miller]

Lol.

Sue
7 days on Star Princess 10/24

[obnurse]

Is chair hogging primarily a problem on Princess or on all cruise lines? I've only sailed Princess. How come the hoggers never post to defend themselves???? If we all have the same opinion about chair hogging, why are there SO many chair hogs?

kc

[srphnx]

It is a common issue on all lines except the ultra high end lines.


Why don't they defend themselves?

Because only the highest caliber cruisers are on cruise critic message boards http://messages.cruisecritic.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

It does stand to reason that people who do post also read and learn from it, people who chair hog or make other cruise faux pas are less likely to be here because they don't take the whole thing as seriously as we do.

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[MamaTene]

Guess those chair piggies are either non Cruise Critic members (how can that be!) or are toooooo ashamed to even try to defend their inconsiderate selves!

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[pattie63]

Does anyone have a name for the impatient boorish cruiser who doesn't wait to see if anyone is coming back and immediately jump into an "occupied" chair? I know it's rare but it happened to me last week. I was shocked. Here's what happened - I was occupying a lounger directly in front of the pool and had only my towel and not-inexpensive sunglasses with me. My other "stuff" was a row behind me with my DH and kids in a shady area (it would have gotten wet where I was-lots of splashing going on!). I literally got up for a minute, leaving my towel and sunglasses behind, and moved 6 feet away to cut my sons pizza and this guy comes along and tosses my towel and sunglasses on the deck and hops in the lounger. He nearly stepped on the glasses in his haste. I glanced over to tell him that the lounger was in use (by me) and he told me that since I wasn't in the chair, it was his. I was stunned for a moment but the nice lady that I was sitting next to had a few words for him!!!
He moved but made a fuss. The next day, he takes a lounger right in front of me on the non-smoking side of the pool and proceeeds to light up and flick his ashes directly into the wind so that blow right back on me!!! After he finishes his butt, he grinds it out right into the carpet!!! All this while eating sunflower seeds and tossing the shells about. At this point, I figure this guy is too crude to try to speak to so I just got up and moved.

Just had to share this experience. Sorry for rattling on.

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[woodofpine]

Yep! That happens ALL the time... 'tis the exceptions that define the rules.

[Toto2Kansas]

Oh pattie, that is simply terrible! I think I would have been a bit upset too!

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[MouseMan]

OKAY here is the funny thing. If a chair hog only puts a towel on the lounger.....HOW DO THEY KNOW IT WAS THEIR TOWEL.....LOL
Another way to confront the towel and sunglasses senario would be to put on the sunglasses, and lay on the towel....then see their reaction!!!!!!!!!

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[Crowsie]

I swear...the next time I cruise...I'm going to bring orange chalk.
I'll head to the pool around 9am and mark all of the held chairs with 0900 (military time) in big orange numbers..just like an abandoned car on the freeway.
Then I'll just grab a chair, a book and a drink..and hang around and watch the fun begin! http://messages.cruisecritic.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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[Crowsie]

Actually....I've been very lucky..and have never had a situation where I couldn't find a deck chair....but I do love this topic!



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[Northender]

Crowsie, same here. I did not see any problems last week on the Grand. Altho we did stick to the Adult Pool Area (which is another topic)
What I am most interested in is someone above mentioned heated pools, our pools on the Grand were not heated and the first of the week they we as cold as ice-out in Maine. By Friday I managed to get myself wet (took 15 minutes to get down the stairs - brrrrrr.) What Princess ships have heated pools. No longer a Virgin Cruiser.

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[donna5]

On the Grand now. We went up to the pool at 8:30AM after breakfast and towels were on all the loungers near around the pool. There were only 4-6 people on deck. We waited for 20-30 minutes, then we removed towels from 2 loungers and put them om a table. 45 minutes later a couple comes up and says those two and the other two were their chairs. The husband had a coffee cup and said he just went down to get a cup and then the wife pipes up "well when we came up at 7AM everyone else was saving the chairs."(So they didn't even get there story straight). She proceeded to say how rude it was to take their seats and I told her that she should complain to the purser's office. Then she asked what we did with their towels and we showed her where they were. When we went to lunch we took all our stuff so someone else could have them. Don't feel guilty if you are sure that it is "hogged chair" to take the chair.

[donna5]

The only pool that is heated is the swim against the tide pool near the spa.

[Northender]

donna5, the so-called indoor pool is warm also. What I am looking for on my next cruise is a ship with heated pools. One of the staff said the Grand class ships did not heat the pools. I put that in my comments that the Adult Pool should be heated, along with the fact that they should send someone to Coffee Making School. (LOL) So what ships have heated pools folks???



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[Dowser307]

Hey Patti63, sounds like the person your looking for could be me, My only question is if you where so offended by my actions why did'nt you get up and complain to someone that i was smoking in a non-smoking section. It wasnt like i was going to steal your chair again, I already had one, LOL. I guess its easier for you to complain about it here weeks later than to actually do sonmething about it.
Oh, BTW for the record it was pumpkin seeds not sunflower seeds

[praise4him]

Dowser,
if indeed you were smoking in a non-smoking section...did it ever occur to you that we don't want to breathe your nasty smoke? Maybe you don't realize that some people have some health problems (asthma) that can be severely aggrivated by your second hand smoke. Thanks for being the considerate person you are.

Jennifer

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[pattie63]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dowser307:
... the person your looking for could be me, My only question is if you where so offended by my actions why did'nt you get up and complain to someone that i was smoking in a non-smoking section. It wasnt like i was going to steal your chair again, I already had one, LOL. I guess its easier for you to complain about it here weeks later than to actually do sonmething about it.
Oh, BTW for the record it was pumpkin seeds not sunflower seeds<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
You're joking, right?

As I said, this crude, rude, foul mouthed, ill-bred, banana-hammock wearing moron wouldn't have cared what anyone had to say and it's likely that he may have gotten ugly in front of my kids (I actually did not care if he was smoking but he was flicking the ashes into the wind and ground the butt out into the carpet). Normally, I'd speak up but why should I have to? It's my vacation and I try to avoid conflicts on vacation. FYI - it was definately sunflower seed and he definately was NOT from AZ!

Have a nice day.

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[Dowser307]

Right on, CORIAN !!

Smokers and drinkers should be bannished to the bildges

[ScriptOhio]

On Celebrity Horizon this past January, I observed a woman berate her husband for putting on his shirt and losing his reserved chair in the shade. She literally had stuff on chairs in the sun and the shade so they could move back and forth at will.
The only time I have observed staff members moving towels etc., is when it rains or late in the day when most people have left the pool area.

[jemingway]

I have a theory that the more children on a cruise, then the fewer the chair hogs. Children rarely use the chairs and, if they do, they have such a short attention span that they quickly more on to something else. This makes the adults with them move on as well. Finally, fewer people want to hog chairs where a bunch of kids are playing. I haven't done any research on this, just what I have noticed cruising both with and without kids. Anyone have an opinion on this? http://messages.cruisecritic.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

JV

[ghgeckos]

I agree we travel with two kids and never get chairs for them, they spend so much time in the pool they just share our chairs with us until it is time to leave. this problem also occurs on land too. We just got back from the Hilton in Hawaii and one couple would camp out 6 chairs with shade by the lagoon and not come back for four hours. Chair hogs just don't have any integrity.

[Salty Dawg]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Chair hogs just don't have any integrity.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://www.heathersanimations.com/men/beach.gif But they do have a chair!

[NitaBcruising]

I have had trouble finding even one chair, at times. And I usually go where it's quiet, not near the pool. Once when I looked all over and couldn't find a chair, I asked an attendant to set one up for me. He said to just take one of the unoccupied ones. So, I found two with just towels on them, moved one towel to the 2nd chair, and laid down. I read for several minutes before a couple came back and said those were their chairs. I said the attendant told me to take one, so I did. They took the towels and moved on! Shortly another gal came along and asked if the one was taken, and I said No! That's the only time I've had to do that. But, wanting in a quiet area, usually we can find chairs.
p.s. I love the idea of saying someone just got up and gave us their chairs! I'll try to remember to say that!!!

Nita