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Ukap
May 22nd, 2006, 11:25 AM
The new Noordam - compatible with USA small appliances? Will I need a convertor for my stateroom?

bepsf
May 22nd, 2006, 12:57 PM
Yes, as are all HAL ships.

Not many plugs tho - may want to bring a splitter with you if you have more than one thing to plug in...

Travelbug66
May 22nd, 2006, 02:16 PM
I'm in an inside cabin on the Zaandam-May 26th! I always blow-dry my hair in the bathroom with the help of a mirror (not sure how that helps, but it does). Will I need to bring an extension cord or is there an outlet in the bathroom? Thanks for your help.

RuthC
May 22nd, 2006, 02:49 PM
The outlets in the bathroom on the S- and R-class ships---so that includes the Zaandam---are for shavers; they also take electric toothbrushes.
So, yes, you will need an extension cord if you want to use a hairdryer in the bathroom.

Krazy Kruizers
May 22nd, 2006, 07:22 PM
Even though we stay in suites where there are more outlets, I still pack a power bar - just in case.

Jim Gallup
May 23rd, 2006, 11:34 AM
Please remember that there is a very good reason why the electrical outlet in the bathroom on a cruise ship can only handle a shaver or toothbrush.

Those same people who bring candles, irons, incense, butane hair curlers, BBQs, and other fire producing machinery onto cruise ships - and then burn up their cabins (and maybe yours as well) - also use an extension cord to take their hair dryer into the bathroom. Then they drop the hair dryer into the handwashing basin filled with water, thereby electrocuting themselves, and knocking out the power grid for hundreds of cabins on the ship. "Gosh, I've never done that before. Why didn't somebody tell me?"

Travelbug66
May 23rd, 2006, 02:39 PM
I'll remember that! I think the last large cruise ship fire this year was due to a cigarette. Are there mirrors in the cabin or only the bathroom?

Desdemona01
May 23rd, 2006, 03:10 PM
I'll remember that! I think the last large cruise ship fire this year was due to a cigarette. Are there mirrors in the cabin or only the bathroom?

there is a desk/vanity in the room with a large mirror over it and an outlet very nearby.

bruceh4
May 23rd, 2006, 03:21 PM
If you want to see what a typical cabin with the vanity and mirror looks like go to the following website:

http://community.webshots.com/photo/231374373/1231400352062659738aACFpX

cruisequeen10
May 23rd, 2006, 03:28 PM
Most cruise ships for all the lines have the standard outlets. It is only the hotels in the different countries that require that you have a converter.

Ukap
May 24th, 2006, 03:51 PM
What is standard outlet?

USA
UK

bruceh4
May 24th, 2006, 07:12 PM
What is standard outlet?

USA
UKStandard outlet means 120 volts, 60 cycles. The same as in all homes in the US. The outlet will accept either 2 prong or 3 prong plugs. I take along a power strip so I can have more outlets to plug battery chargers and such into.

Jim Gallup
May 25th, 2006, 02:46 PM
Actually, for most people on Planet Earth, a "Standard Outlet" is 220-240 volts, 50-60 cycles. It is only that small splinter group in North America (and a few other backwater countries) that use 120 volts.

If you live in Europe or Asia, most of your electrical devices will adjust automatically, and work with just about any AC Current. It is only the Americans that seem to be a bit behind in that department.

Grumpy1
May 25th, 2006, 04:04 PM
On Prinsendam we had both styles, US and European. My laptop power supply, which has a standard US plug, works on 100 to 240v 50-60 Hz, so I bought an adapter for about $7 in the gift shop. The adapter plugs ino the european style outlet and accepts US style plugs... BUT!!! It does not change the voltage. It will still be 220volts. If you are using a computer or camera or phone charger, it will probably work, but read the label to be sure. You cannot plug a hair dryer or curling iron into that adapter unless the item has a switch that allows you to change the voltage.

HAL puts the US style outlet close to the dressing table so that it will be convenient to plug in the hair dryer. On Prinsendam, there was a hair dryer in the drawer below the outlet.

bruceh4
May 25th, 2006, 05:41 PM
Actually, for most people on Planet Earth, a "Standard Outlet" is 220-240 volts, 50-60 cycles. It is only that small splinter group in North America (and a few other backwater countries) that use 120 volts.

If you live in Europe or Asia, most of your electrical devices will adjust automatically, and work with just about any AC Current. It is only the Americans that seem to be a bit behind in that department.

Gee, I hope that Japan doesnt read your comment, they might be offended as to being called "backwater country". Japan use's the same voltage and frequency along with the same plug as the US. Not only is 50 Hz 20% less effective in generation, it is 10-15% less efficient in transmission, it requires up to 30% larger windings and magnetic core materials in transformer construction. Electric motors are much less efficient at the lower frequency, and must also be made more robust to handle the electrical losses and the extra heat generated. If you want to read more including seeing all the different type plugs used in Europe (7 or 8) go to:
http://users.pandora.be/worldstandards/electricity.htm
Europe is one the reason there is a lucrative buisness in non standard plugs and that heavy kit of adapters you need to carry when you travel there.:eek:

Grumpy1
May 25th, 2006, 06:17 PM
Gee, I hope that Japan doesnt read your comment, they might be offended as to being called "backwater country". Japan use's the same voltage and frequency along with the same plug as the US. Not only is 50 Hz 20% less effective in generation, it is 10-15% less efficient in transmission, it requires up to 30% larger windings and magnetic core materials in transformer construction. Electric motors are much less efficient at the lower frequency, and must also be made more robust to handle the electrical losses and the extra heat generated. If you want to read more including seeing all the different type plugs used in Europe (7 or 8) go to:
http://users.pandora.be/worldstandards/electricity.htm
Europe is one the reason there is a lucrative buisness in non standard plugs and that heavy kit of adapters you need to carry when you travel there.:eek:

I just took a look at the information on that site. It's quite interesting. The adapter I purchased onboard is as close to a "universal" as possible, for the plugs that it will accept, but only plugs into three different receptacles.. The 220v receptacles onboard Prinsendam are type F. The adapter fits the type F and will also mate with a type C or type E. The adapter accepts US/Japan grounded and ungrounded, and also almost all of the types used throughout Europe. I'm sure that I'm going to have to pick up a few more adapters to keep everything charged up in London, Copenhagen, Rome and Istanbul.

Bruceh4, just think how much more efficient the electrical transmission systems would be if we had adopted 400 cycle as the standard.