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OldCodger73
June 19th, 2006, 06:42 PM
Another “newbie” question. Can one take pictures on board? Specifically the Lido, dining room and of the shows. If so, can one use flash?

gizmo
June 19th, 2006, 07:00 PM
I believe you are asked not to take pictures during the show.
One show that people do take pictures is the Rockin Rollies since pax are in the show.

You can take pictures in the Lido, dining room and through out the ship.

tomc
June 19th, 2006, 07:12 PM
If you use a camcorder (not in the shows), turn the red "record" light off and you will get much more natural reactions. People won't think they are being taped and will not look at the camera. I don't mean to say that you are doing a surveillance thing, but just natural, in public, sorts of shots. These days, people don't generally look at the camera anyway, but I've found it helps.

RuthC
June 19th, 2006, 07:48 PM
I believe you are asked not to take pictures during the show.
One show that people do take pictures is the Rockin Rollies since pax are in the show.
That's correct: you are not allowed to take pictures during evening showtime. The exception is as you stated.
IIRC, you are also allowed to take pictures during the crew show.

cruzincurt
June 19th, 2006, 08:22 PM
Nothing is more distracting than sitting behind someone in the darkened theatre who insists on raising their digital camera to "tape" part of the show. The lit-up LCD screen is very distracting to those trying to enjoy the show.

Even in the "no flash" mode, sometimes called "museum" mode, the bright LCD view screen is very objectionable to those sitting in the dark behind you.

Copper10-8
June 19th, 2006, 10:11 PM
You can take as many pics if you'd like in the Lido and dining room. (you can not in the casino) Before the start of every production and/or guest entertainer show in the show lounge, they will usually make an announcement regarding (flash) photography and video. As has been stated here, 99% of the time it is not allowed due to copywrite infringement. Photography and video are allowed during events like Seaquest:eek: , crew shows, passenger talent shows, the Newlywed, not-so-newlywed game, the liers game, etc.

ger_77
June 19th, 2006, 10:32 PM
And they really don't like you taking pictures of the pictures in the Photo Gallery!:D

Smooth Sailing! :) :) :)

Judyjay
June 20th, 2006, 12:08 AM
Please, never use a flash when taking pictures of any stage performance. It not only is distracting to audience members, but it can also be very dangerous for the performers. A flash going off just as a dancer is about to do a leap, or a performer working near the edge of the stage can be blined by the flash just long enought to cause serious problems. Always turn off your flash. The lights on the stage are usually enought to give you a great picture.

cruzincurt
June 20th, 2006, 07:38 AM
It comes down to understanding how your camera works, figure out how to turn off the flash, the camera will try to compensate. If it is a cheap disposable camera, you can't control the flash. Sitting 20 rows back, the flash isn't going to help anyway.

Taking a still picture of a performance is one thing, what they don't permit due to copyright, is taping the performance. But then again, those that don't follow rules, requests, guidelines, or LAWS, will do what they want anyway.

I've always wondered why they don't want you to take a photo in the casino?

dougnewmanatsea
June 20th, 2006, 08:40 AM
Absolutely! I photograph the ship's interiors early in the morning when nobody is about and the light is good. Use fast film or crank up the ISO speed on your digital camera (if you have an SLR, don't be afraid - I use mine at 3200 sometimes!) and turn off the flash.

As others have mentioned above, no show or casino photos... Everything else is fine. I average between 100 and 300 ship photos for each cruise, depending on the size of the ship :) ! (This is in addition to port photos... Which can be 1,500 a week if it is an interesting destination, or only a couple of hundred if going somewhere dull.)

capnjoe
June 20th, 2006, 09:10 AM
Other than what was mention there is NO picture taking in the casino, they will make you walk the plank:p

tomc
June 20th, 2006, 10:39 AM
I've always wondered why they don't want you to take a photo in the casino? Matter of privacy, I always assumed. Then I see The Travel Channel taking us inside the Las Vegas casinos and those can't all be actors at the machines...

Randyk47
June 20th, 2006, 10:50 AM
Years ago I used to go to Vegas a lot and once, while playing in Bally's, they actually announced some travel documentary was going to be filmed in the casino. Players were given the opportunity to leave the area before the filming started. I always considered it a privacy issue....kind of along the lines of "what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas" and that seems to be extended to casinos. I also always thought it was a partial security issue, that the casinos didn't want people taking pictures and studying the casino layout, machines, tables, staff, etc. We have pictures of the casinos on various ships but always taken when the casino was closed and usually taken looking into the casino from the door or hallway.

Oceanwench
June 20th, 2006, 10:59 AM
It is a privacy issue.
I asked and received permission to take a picture in the casino on the Westerdam last year. The casino manager told me to be sure only to get my subject in the photo and not any other passengers.

Copper10-8
June 20th, 2006, 11:49 AM
It is a privacy but also a crime prevention issue! The flash of a camera has a negative impact on the one-arm bandit machines. If too many (flash) photographs of one particular machine are taken, the gamma rays will corrupt the interior mechanism. This, in turn, will adversely affect the "rollers" which will start to roll at a lower speed. Lower speeds increase the chance of winning thus causing the machine to eventually pay off more. So, too many flash pictures = higher earnings for the player and less earnings for the casino;)

Himself
June 20th, 2006, 03:36 PM
I think most people do not want to be photographed in a casino. If you win big and you are on camera, it could lead to problems later on. If you lose big on camera that would be another problem.

Pictures in shows are forbidden. I think it might violate copyright laws.
Other public places it is fine to film.

jcrandle
June 20th, 2006, 03:51 PM
Another “newbie” question. Can one take pictures on board? Specifically the Lido, dining room and of the shows. If so, can one use flash?The picture that's hanging on the wall of you cabin is NOT to be taken off the ship. They will have plenty just as tasteless and inane at the art auction.:D

Brown Eyed Gurl
June 21st, 2006, 05:05 PM
Oops-I took pictures everywhere! :p
We attended at least 4+ shows and never heard any announcements about "no flash photography or camcorders". In fact many people were taking flash pictures and recording entire shows.
I also took some photos in the casino and saw others doing the same, no one ever approached us to say not to.

AlohaPride
June 21st, 2006, 05:15 PM
Other than what was mention there is NO picture taking in the casino, they will make you walk the plank:p
Said as if you've experienced it! Ha ha ha...sarcasim maybe?

Not taking pictures in a casino is also a security measure. In many resorts with casinos and in Las Vegas, one is not to take pictures in case someone is "casing" the place. The photos can be used to determine the "weak points" of the casino and thus lead to burglary or even worse robbery.

Seacucumber
June 21st, 2006, 05:25 PM
They always announce before the show starts that flash photgraphy is not allowed. If you set your digital camera for night setting your shots will be OK.If you are still using film then use film speed of 400 or better without flash. I have seen people using digital videorecorders without any flash. Unless you use high speed setting, most of the shots will be blurred.

OldCodger73
June 21st, 2006, 05:32 PM
Nothing is more distracting than sitting behind someone in the darkened theatre who insists on raising their digital camera to "tape" part of the show. The lit-up LCD screen is very distracting to those trying to enjoy the show.

Even in the "no flash" mode, sometimes called "museum" mode, the bright LCD view screen is very objectionable to those sitting in the dark behind you.

Your camera's instruction manual is your friend and should be read regularly. Most cameras allow you to turn off the LCD review that occurs after you take a picture and also turn off the beep that is either focus confirmation or photo comfirmation. And on a P&S camera one can use the viewfinder rather than the LCD thus eliminating the distracting light you mention.

RuthC
June 21st, 2006, 09:30 PM
However, once you've turned off the flash, LCD, and beep there's still that pesky little copyright rule to think about.

Seacucumber
June 22nd, 2006, 06:20 AM
However, once you've turned off the flash, LCD, and beep there's still that pesky little copyright rule to think about.
If you are doing it for your own photo album, I don't think that will be a problem. Once you start posting on the web or start selling it, the copy rights will kick in. The ship also sells these photos, it is kind of grey area.

as41shots
June 22nd, 2006, 02:49 PM
It is a privacy but also a crime prevention issue! The flash of a camera has a negative impact on the one-arm bandit machines. If too many (flash) photographs of one particular machine are taken, the gamma rays will corrupt the interior mechanism. This, in turn, will adversely affect the "rollers" which will start to roll at a lower speed. Lower speeds increase the chance of winning thus causing the machine to eventually pay off more. So, too many flash pictures = higher earnings for the player and less earnings for the casino;)
Hmmmm.... this sounds like the time I told my wife (we were newlyweds at the time) that if she wanted to learn to play golf she had to lear right-handed (she is a lefty) because the courses charge more for left handed golfers since their divots go in a different direction and the golf course machines couldn't fix them, they had to be done by hand. All was fine until about six months later when asked in a business meeting if she played golf she said no, she didn't want to learn right-handed. They asked her why she would have to learn to play right handed and she told them she was cheap and didn't feel it was right for lefties to pay more. I got quite an earful when she got home. And it still comes up now and then more than 20 years later. :D

RuthC
June 22nd, 2006, 03:55 PM
I got quite an earful when she got home. And it still comes up now and then more than 20 years later. :D
As well it should! :D
That is too funny.

Copper10-8
June 22nd, 2006, 07:29 PM
Hmmmm.... this sounds like the time I told my wife (we were newlyweds at the time) that if she wanted to learn to play golf she had to lear right-handed (she is a lefty) because the courses charge more for left handed golfers since their divots go in a different direction and the golf course machines couldn't fix them, they had to be done by hand. All was fine until about six months later when asked in a business meeting if she played golf she said no, she didn't want to learn right-handed. They asked her why she would have to learn to play right handed and she told them she was cheap and didn't feel it was right for lefties to pay more. I got quite an earful when she got home. And it still comes up now and then more than 20 years later. :D

Thanks for that funny story!;) When I worked as a ramper for America West Airlines, we used to make the new guys go up to the captain and ask him for the keys of the airplane. The captains send them down to the ramp again to look for a can of jetblast ;) That kept going for a while

as41shots
June 23rd, 2006, 08:22 PM
As well it should! :D
That is too funny.
Thanks... I thought so.

She'll get over it one day. ;)