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lougee1043
August 3rd, 2006, 06:51 PM
Federal investigators boarded the ship, and almost immediately figured out what happened. It wasn't a computer glitch. It wasn't a mechanical problem.
A high-level source, who asked not to be identified for fear of losing his or her job, told the WESH 2 I-Team it was simple human error.
"The public needs to know. The ship is safe. There is nothing wrong with the automatic pilot system. It was human error. They made a mistake. Mistakes happen," the source said.
Here's how our source explains what happened.
After clearing Port Canaveral, the captain set the ship's automatic pilot to head to New York. He then left the cruise line's bridge. All standard and appropriate procedure.
As the automatic pilot found its course back to New York, it started making a left turn when the person in charge on the bridge -- a junior officer -- noticed the ship's automatic pilot needle was far to the left.
Our source goes on to tell us that the junior officer "panicked," then took the ship out of automatic pilot thinking the meter was showing that the ship was turning too sharply to one side.
But instead of turning the Crown Princess back to the right, the junior officer accidentally kept the ship in an even sharper left hand turn -- almost like over-correcting in a car.
This caused the massive 113,000-ton cruise ship to list severely, tumbling passengers, pool water and everything else on board into chaos.

herb
August 3rd, 2006, 06:59 PM
I wonder what happened to that junior officer?

Gary & Judy
August 3rd, 2006, 07:03 PM
I wonder what happened to that junior officer?

Kee-holed.:D

lougee1043
August 3rd, 2006, 07:10 PM
the officer and others on the bridge at the time have been reassigned

here is the article in its entirety

http://www.wesh.com/news/9555476/detail.html

Krazy Kruizers
August 3rd, 2006, 07:23 PM
Had heard the other day that it was human error.

Not surprised that there has been some assignment changes.

lb0103
August 4th, 2006, 11:39 AM
Just as long as the "junior officer" has not been reassigned to a "dam" ship.

LOL that is suppossed to be funny!

albertiger
August 4th, 2006, 12:00 PM
i know it's a small matter but could we please say "list", and not tilt? Sounds like a carnival ride and a good time was not had by all concerning this "tilt"!;)

lougee1043
August 4th, 2006, 12:57 PM
i know it's a small matter but could we please say "list", and not tilt? Sounds like a carnival ride and a good time was not had by all concerning this "tilt"!;)

oops

tomc
August 4th, 2006, 01:44 PM
A high-level source, who asked not to be identified for fear of losing his or her job... I certainly hope the source is such, rather than some idiot no-brain reporter whose "authoritative source" is a message board. I heard the exact same thing here a while ago. huh.

Tinknock50
August 4th, 2006, 02:31 PM
If I recall correctly, didn't Princess already state in a press release on their website that it was human error and the person was removed from that position?

Found it....here is an excerpt:


"We can appreciate there may be concern as to the cause of this incident, and questions about whether it could happen again. As you may be aware, there is an investigation into the incident being carried out by the U.S. authorities which has not yet been fully completed. It would therefore be inappropriate for us to comment in any detail before that investigation is complete and the results published. However, we can confirm that the incident was due to human error and the appropriate personnel changes have been made"

I guess the news article has a couple more details but the Princess press release was from July 24, so hardly much of a breaking news story.

MMastell
August 5th, 2006, 11:55 AM
On your next Princess cruise, be nice to the guy who's washing the windows. He may have once been a bridge officer.

Sad, that one mistake could have such a tragic impact but the steering systems on the ships are no more than small joysticks and are very "touchy".

I could probably believe that the junior officer had rarely, if ever, steered the ship at a high rate of speed other than in a simulator.

I wish the best for him and that he can come back and learn from his mistake and still have a career on the seas. Just work on his "judgment"

Take care,
Mike

Navy_Chief
August 5th, 2006, 02:23 PM
Here's the thing we should keep in mind when we cruise though. This type of manuver could happen any time on any ship if there is an immanent navigational hazzard to the ship which would warrant a "Hard Over" order to the rudder to avoid the ship from having a collision which would be far worse. Given some of the photos I saw of damage, I questions the "Common Sense" factor of not having top heavy display cases securely bolted to the deck and "Static" objects secured from moving about. As far as pool water spillage goes, that is completly unavoidable along with the deck furnature moving about. At any rate, they beat this into the ground on the Princess boards and there were more "Arm Chair Sunday Quarterback" captains than you could shake a stick at. I think we should forget about it on the HAL board as well.

Happy ks
August 5th, 2006, 03:07 PM
Kee-holed.:D

Or, keel-hauled