CabinForFour
April 4th, 2004, 08:18 PM
What a wonderful cruise! I have posted a ton of photos at Webshots, if anyone is interested...Paradise Cruise Photos (http://community.webshots.com/user/tengreatyears)
This was our 10th Carnival cruise, and we set sail on March 21 from Miami with two other couples. All of us were celebrating our tenth anniversaries on this cruise. This was the first cruise for the other two couples.
EMBARKATION
Our flight from Columbia, SC, to Atlanta left at 6:00 AM the morning of embarkation. All of our flights and transfers went smoothly, and we arrived at Miami International Airport at 10:15 AM. After claiming our massive pile of luggage, we hopped on a shuttle to the port and arrived at the Carnival terminal at the Port of Miami shortly before 11:30. There was almost no one there, so we completed the FunPass check-in process and were carded, photographed and onboard within 20 minutes! Wow!
We had originally booked an oceanview guarantee, but our wonderful TA had secured three adjacent cabins for us just off the atrium on the Empress deck (E75, E77, and E79). After crossing the gangway, we turned immediately to our left, walked about 15 yards and found our cabins. The Internet café was located in the atrium area just steps from our cabins, and the dining room and main show lounge was located on the deck immediately above ours. It seemed like everything on the ship was so convenient to these rooms, and there was no excessive noise from foot traffic coming from the atrium. Awesome! Thanks, Sam!
We met our cruising companions on the Lido deck for pizza as we watched the busy port below. The rest of the afternoon was spent exploring the ship, registering for shore excursions, unpacking, and getting ready for the first of many delicious dinners. We attended the mandatory lifeboat drill, but unfortunately, the ship started sailing before the drill was over. When the drill ended, we were able to get on deck in time to enjoy most of the sailaway.
THE SHIP AND STAFF/CREW
This was our first cruise aboard the Paradise, and we really enjoyed the smoke-free atmosphere. It is unfortunate to see that ending, and the ship's staff and crew expressed extreme disappointment in losing this distinction in their "home." The ship itself was beautiful and in great condition. Since our last four cruises had been aboard Destiny-class ships, it took a while for us to re-acquaint ourselves with the layout of this ship. We did miss the balcony cabins on this ship but not as much as we thought we might.
On this evening, we met our wonderful dining room staff, Lee from Korea and Ketut from India (Elation Dining Room, Table 135). They were the best waiters we’ve had since our beloved Benito on our New Years cruise in 1999! They were so friendly and super-efficient! We had usually finished our entire meal within the first hour, and yet we never felt rushed. Ketut knew each of us by name by the second night, and Lee spent the week entertaining us with his origami frogs and dollar-bill jewelry. They were wonderful, and we wished so much to bring them home with us.
We did notice that the menus had changed somewhat since we last cruised in October. Most of the favorites remained, but there were some new additions and some deletions from the usual fare. Everything was still excellent and super-yummy.
Our CD was Josh Riffe, who had been the social host for one of our previous cruises. He was wonderful! Unlike some CDs, his stage presence seems so genuine, and we thoroughly enjoyed sailing with him.
We chose this particular ship and its Exotic Western Caribbean itinerary because of its ports. The only negative aspect of the itinerary was that three of the four ports involved tendering to shore at one time or another. Nonetheless, the ports were fabulous, and the overall weather was great! Although the tender rides to shore were pretty bumpy, I noticed very little movement on the ship itself throughout the week.
BELIZE
The ship anchored six miles (yes, six MILES—whew!) offshore, and we then tendered onto the shore in smaller boats. DH and I took the ship-sponsored excursion to the Mayan ruins of Xunantunich, which are located at the western border of Belize only two miles from the neighboring country of Guatemala. Since our excursion involved significant travel time, we were some of the first people off the ship. The tender ride seemed very rough and long, but our 90-minute ride across Belize was aboard a nice Greyhound-type bus. Our tour guide gave an amusing and informative introduction to the country, its history, and its culture. The 90-minute bus ride went very quickly, and we arrived at Xunantunich just as it started raining. Argh!
The rain fell harder and harder. By the time we walked up the hill to the ruins, it was pouring. There go my fantasies of photographing the site against a beautiful blue sky and being able to see into Guatemala from the top of El Castillo. The site was amazing nonetheless. We climbed to the top of the castle in the pouring rain and then explored the smaller buildings nearby. The buildings are constructed of white limestone and must have been so beautiful when they were new. Unfortunately, we didn’t get a chance to explore the outlying areas of the site because of the weather.
We explored the site for a while and then ferried back across the river to our bus for a late lunch at nearby Windy Hill Resort. Keep in mind, of course, that the term “resort” in Belize is used very loosely. Think one-step-above-cheap-hotel-in-Myrtle-Beach resort, not Atlantis Resort. That being said, our lunch of stewed chicken, beans and rice, cole slaw, fried plantain and fruit punch was excellent! We ate quickly and headed back to the ship even more quickly. Because of tendering delays for all of the tours that morning, we sailed from Belize two hours late.
In Belize, one couple of our traveling companions had planned to go cave tubing for the day, but the excursion was canceled because of unusually heavy rains the night before. They were very disappointed. They ended up at the Belize Zoo, which they enjoyed. The other couple did the ship-sponsored tour to the Mayan Ruins and Altun Ha and River Wallace. They reported that they saw a lot of native animals in the wild during their river ride.
ROATAN
For this day, we booked a private excursion on our own to the Sante Wellness Center (www.santewellenesscenter.com (http://www.santewellenesscenter.com)). Roatan has an actual dock, so we were some of the first people off the ship a few minutes before 7:00 AM to meet Angela, owner of Sante. The guys had booked a snorkeling excursion from Sante while the girls were anxiously awaiting massages and facials. After a 20-minute drive through beautiful Roatan followed by a short boat ride from the main part of the island to Sante’s private island, we had a light breakfast of fruit, muffins and juices. Since we weren’t scheduled for our spa services yet, we all explored the beautiful grounds of the spa facility and looked for seashells on the beach. When the guys left on their snorkeling excursion and my female companions were called to their respective treatment rooms for their massages, I settled into a hammock and read for about an hour while listening to the birds and the waves. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh… My one-hour massage was heavenly, and I left Sante feeling totally relaxed, much like a noodle. http://messages.cruisecritic.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif About 1:00, we headed back to the ship. We shopped briefly near the port and then boarded the ship for lunch. The ship sailed for Grand Cayman at 3:00.
GRAND CAYMAN
This was our third visit to Grand Cayman. We were surprised by how much the port area, already well developed, had been further developed since our last visits in 1997 and 1999. We had hoped to do the Beginner’s Scuba here, since we had enjoyed our first Scuba in Curacao so much. But it was not offered on this trip, so we chose the ship’s Snuba excursion instead. The Stingray City excursions for the day had been canceled because of 8-foot swells in North Sound, but the excursions on the Georgetown side of the island were still on.
Our Snuba excursion was wonderful! Our guide took us through some beautiful reefs to a shipwreck. The water was crystal clear, and everything looked so magical. At a depth of about 15-20 feet underwater, we explored the shipwreck and posed for photos.
Our traveling companions had reserved the canceled Stingray City excursion. They were able to get last-minute reservations for an excursion that took them snorkeling over the same site where we went to Snuba, although we never saw them (or even knew that there were snorkelers up there until they told us later where they had gone).
That evening was the second formal dinner (the first had been on Monday) and the Grand Gala Buffet.
COZUMEL
This was also our third trip to Cozumel, Mexico. Like Grand Cayman, this island had changed a lot since our last visit in 1999. All six of us booked the Mayan ruins of Tulum excursion through the ship, which meant that we were some of the first people off the ship to board a tender headed to mainland Mexico (Playa del Carmen). This was the second visit to Tulum for us, but our first trip seemed so rushed that we both wanted to see it again at a more leisurely pace. The weather was nice, but the seas were pretty rough on our 45-minute tender ride to the mainland (all I can say is “Thank God for Bonine!”). Once there, we boarded a large bus for the 45-minute ride to Tulum.
The park at Tulum had built up significantly since our last visit there in 1997 as well. They had even moved the entrance gate from the center of the site to the northwest corner. Upon entering the gates, DH and I excused ourselves from the tour group to explore on our own. We were surprised at the amount of new vegetation at the site since our last visit. Also, many of the ruins that could be climbed previously had been roped off. Nonetheless, we had a nice time visiting the main buildings on our own, taking pictures (of course), and exploring the areas of the site that we had not had time to visit before. Although it became increasingly cloudy during our visit, it never rained.
After the excursion, we took the long, windy, and increasingly rough ferry ride from mainland Mexico back to the island of Cozumel in the dark. The ferry stopped at the shopping district, and we all disembarked. One of the women in our group was on a shopping mission, and we were all happy to assist! http://messages.cruisecritic.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
We finally boarded the ship at 10:30. We were all starving, as we had eaten only a light snack since 11:00 that morning! WHAT? We’re on a cruise, and we’re HUNGRY??? It can’t be true! We all hopped in the shower (not the same one— http://messages.cruisecritic.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif) and then headed up to the Lido deck for the 11:30 Mexican buffet. I’m not sure if the food was REALLY that good or if I was just that hungry, but it was some of the best food I ever had! LOL. We stuffed ourselves silly then the girls danced off the extra calories at the deck party while the guys talked about football or something equally manly nearby.
The next day was our final day at sea. We caught some rays on the Lido deck, and we all went to the highly amusing Newlywed and Not-so-Newlywed Game. After packing a gazillion items of clothing, souvenirs and photos into our luggage, we went to dinner and said goodbye to our dining room pals, Ketut and Lee. http://messages.cruisecritic.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif
DEBARKATION
We arrived in Miami before sunrise the next morning. Since our flight left Miami at 12:45, DH and I had decided to do the “express debarkation." The ship was cleared by Customs at 7:30, and we were off the ship within 5 minutes. Since our cabins were on the Empress deck (same deck as the gangway), we were able to just roll everything straight off the ship with no delay whatsoever. We were at the Miami airport by 8:30. Awesome!
Any of you who were familiar with my posts know that we usually cruise with our young children. Since this was our anniversary cruise, they stayed home with family. So "CabinForFour" was actually a cabin for two on this trip. This was our first time leaving them overnight for any length of time. In the months prior to our departure, we called our cruise "the trip," because four-year-old Benjamin genuinely enjoys cruising so much that we knew he would never forgive us for going on one without him. http://messages.cruisecritic.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Fortunately, both children adjusted very well and were spoiled rotten when we returned. We called home twice during the week only to find that Benjamin was far too busy to bother with speaking to us for more than a few seconds. He typed a few e-mails to send to us throughout the week, which was always a nice surprise when we checked our e-mail onboard. The carefree week away from the constant responsibility of having two young children was refreshing. That being said, we THOROUGHLY enjoy cruising WITH them as well, and they will definitely join us again on our next family cruise...whenever that may be. Next on our traveling itinerary is Disney World in December http://messages.cruisecritic.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif, so I don't imagine that we'll be cruising again for at least another year. http://messages.cruisecritic.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif
So that's basically it. Feel free to ask any questions if there's something I didn't cover. We had a fabulous time and wouldn't hesitate to sail this ship or itinerary again. Happy cruising, everyone!
Two Little Sailors: Victoria's First and Benjamin's Fourth cruise -- Carnival Victory, October 2003 (http://community.webshots.com/user/cabinforfour)
Benjamin Sails to Bermuda-- Carnival Triumph, May 2002 (http://community.webshots.com/user/travelingtots)
Benjamin's Birthday Cruise -- Carnival Destiny, Jan. 2002 (http://community.webshots.com/user/travelingtot)
Benjamin's First Cruise -- Carnival Victory 2000 (http://www7.50megs.com/jamine/benjamin's_first_cruise.htm)
Paradise 3/04 - Exotic W. Caribbean
Carnival Victory 10/03 - Bahamas
Carnival Triumph 5/02 - Bermuda
Carnival Destiny 1/02 - S. Caribbean
Carnival Victory 10/00 - Nassau
Inspiration 7/99 - S. Caribbean
Tropicale 1/99 - W. Caribbean
Carnival Destiny 7/97 - W. Caribbean
Fantasy 4/96 - Bahamas
Fantasy 7/94 - Bahamas
[This message was edited by CabinForFour on 04-04-04 at 10:30 PM.]
[This message was edited by CabinForFour on 04-04-04 at 10:32 PM.]
This was our 10th Carnival cruise, and we set sail on March 21 from Miami with two other couples. All of us were celebrating our tenth anniversaries on this cruise. This was the first cruise for the other two couples.
EMBARKATION
Our flight from Columbia, SC, to Atlanta left at 6:00 AM the morning of embarkation. All of our flights and transfers went smoothly, and we arrived at Miami International Airport at 10:15 AM. After claiming our massive pile of luggage, we hopped on a shuttle to the port and arrived at the Carnival terminal at the Port of Miami shortly before 11:30. There was almost no one there, so we completed the FunPass check-in process and were carded, photographed and onboard within 20 minutes! Wow!
We had originally booked an oceanview guarantee, but our wonderful TA had secured three adjacent cabins for us just off the atrium on the Empress deck (E75, E77, and E79). After crossing the gangway, we turned immediately to our left, walked about 15 yards and found our cabins. The Internet café was located in the atrium area just steps from our cabins, and the dining room and main show lounge was located on the deck immediately above ours. It seemed like everything on the ship was so convenient to these rooms, and there was no excessive noise from foot traffic coming from the atrium. Awesome! Thanks, Sam!
We met our cruising companions on the Lido deck for pizza as we watched the busy port below. The rest of the afternoon was spent exploring the ship, registering for shore excursions, unpacking, and getting ready for the first of many delicious dinners. We attended the mandatory lifeboat drill, but unfortunately, the ship started sailing before the drill was over. When the drill ended, we were able to get on deck in time to enjoy most of the sailaway.
THE SHIP AND STAFF/CREW
This was our first cruise aboard the Paradise, and we really enjoyed the smoke-free atmosphere. It is unfortunate to see that ending, and the ship's staff and crew expressed extreme disappointment in losing this distinction in their "home." The ship itself was beautiful and in great condition. Since our last four cruises had been aboard Destiny-class ships, it took a while for us to re-acquaint ourselves with the layout of this ship. We did miss the balcony cabins on this ship but not as much as we thought we might.
On this evening, we met our wonderful dining room staff, Lee from Korea and Ketut from India (Elation Dining Room, Table 135). They were the best waiters we’ve had since our beloved Benito on our New Years cruise in 1999! They were so friendly and super-efficient! We had usually finished our entire meal within the first hour, and yet we never felt rushed. Ketut knew each of us by name by the second night, and Lee spent the week entertaining us with his origami frogs and dollar-bill jewelry. They were wonderful, and we wished so much to bring them home with us.
We did notice that the menus had changed somewhat since we last cruised in October. Most of the favorites remained, but there were some new additions and some deletions from the usual fare. Everything was still excellent and super-yummy.
Our CD was Josh Riffe, who had been the social host for one of our previous cruises. He was wonderful! Unlike some CDs, his stage presence seems so genuine, and we thoroughly enjoyed sailing with him.
We chose this particular ship and its Exotic Western Caribbean itinerary because of its ports. The only negative aspect of the itinerary was that three of the four ports involved tendering to shore at one time or another. Nonetheless, the ports were fabulous, and the overall weather was great! Although the tender rides to shore were pretty bumpy, I noticed very little movement on the ship itself throughout the week.
BELIZE
The ship anchored six miles (yes, six MILES—whew!) offshore, and we then tendered onto the shore in smaller boats. DH and I took the ship-sponsored excursion to the Mayan ruins of Xunantunich, which are located at the western border of Belize only two miles from the neighboring country of Guatemala. Since our excursion involved significant travel time, we were some of the first people off the ship. The tender ride seemed very rough and long, but our 90-minute ride across Belize was aboard a nice Greyhound-type bus. Our tour guide gave an amusing and informative introduction to the country, its history, and its culture. The 90-minute bus ride went very quickly, and we arrived at Xunantunich just as it started raining. Argh!
The rain fell harder and harder. By the time we walked up the hill to the ruins, it was pouring. There go my fantasies of photographing the site against a beautiful blue sky and being able to see into Guatemala from the top of El Castillo. The site was amazing nonetheless. We climbed to the top of the castle in the pouring rain and then explored the smaller buildings nearby. The buildings are constructed of white limestone and must have been so beautiful when they were new. Unfortunately, we didn’t get a chance to explore the outlying areas of the site because of the weather.
We explored the site for a while and then ferried back across the river to our bus for a late lunch at nearby Windy Hill Resort. Keep in mind, of course, that the term “resort” in Belize is used very loosely. Think one-step-above-cheap-hotel-in-Myrtle-Beach resort, not Atlantis Resort. That being said, our lunch of stewed chicken, beans and rice, cole slaw, fried plantain and fruit punch was excellent! We ate quickly and headed back to the ship even more quickly. Because of tendering delays for all of the tours that morning, we sailed from Belize two hours late.
In Belize, one couple of our traveling companions had planned to go cave tubing for the day, but the excursion was canceled because of unusually heavy rains the night before. They were very disappointed. They ended up at the Belize Zoo, which they enjoyed. The other couple did the ship-sponsored tour to the Mayan Ruins and Altun Ha and River Wallace. They reported that they saw a lot of native animals in the wild during their river ride.
ROATAN
For this day, we booked a private excursion on our own to the Sante Wellness Center (www.santewellenesscenter.com (http://www.santewellenesscenter.com)). Roatan has an actual dock, so we were some of the first people off the ship a few minutes before 7:00 AM to meet Angela, owner of Sante. The guys had booked a snorkeling excursion from Sante while the girls were anxiously awaiting massages and facials. After a 20-minute drive through beautiful Roatan followed by a short boat ride from the main part of the island to Sante’s private island, we had a light breakfast of fruit, muffins and juices. Since we weren’t scheduled for our spa services yet, we all explored the beautiful grounds of the spa facility and looked for seashells on the beach. When the guys left on their snorkeling excursion and my female companions were called to their respective treatment rooms for their massages, I settled into a hammock and read for about an hour while listening to the birds and the waves. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh… My one-hour massage was heavenly, and I left Sante feeling totally relaxed, much like a noodle. http://messages.cruisecritic.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif About 1:00, we headed back to the ship. We shopped briefly near the port and then boarded the ship for lunch. The ship sailed for Grand Cayman at 3:00.
GRAND CAYMAN
This was our third visit to Grand Cayman. We were surprised by how much the port area, already well developed, had been further developed since our last visits in 1997 and 1999. We had hoped to do the Beginner’s Scuba here, since we had enjoyed our first Scuba in Curacao so much. But it was not offered on this trip, so we chose the ship’s Snuba excursion instead. The Stingray City excursions for the day had been canceled because of 8-foot swells in North Sound, but the excursions on the Georgetown side of the island were still on.
Our Snuba excursion was wonderful! Our guide took us through some beautiful reefs to a shipwreck. The water was crystal clear, and everything looked so magical. At a depth of about 15-20 feet underwater, we explored the shipwreck and posed for photos.
Our traveling companions had reserved the canceled Stingray City excursion. They were able to get last-minute reservations for an excursion that took them snorkeling over the same site where we went to Snuba, although we never saw them (or even knew that there were snorkelers up there until they told us later where they had gone).
That evening was the second formal dinner (the first had been on Monday) and the Grand Gala Buffet.
COZUMEL
This was also our third trip to Cozumel, Mexico. Like Grand Cayman, this island had changed a lot since our last visit in 1999. All six of us booked the Mayan ruins of Tulum excursion through the ship, which meant that we were some of the first people off the ship to board a tender headed to mainland Mexico (Playa del Carmen). This was the second visit to Tulum for us, but our first trip seemed so rushed that we both wanted to see it again at a more leisurely pace. The weather was nice, but the seas were pretty rough on our 45-minute tender ride to the mainland (all I can say is “Thank God for Bonine!”). Once there, we boarded a large bus for the 45-minute ride to Tulum.
The park at Tulum had built up significantly since our last visit there in 1997 as well. They had even moved the entrance gate from the center of the site to the northwest corner. Upon entering the gates, DH and I excused ourselves from the tour group to explore on our own. We were surprised at the amount of new vegetation at the site since our last visit. Also, many of the ruins that could be climbed previously had been roped off. Nonetheless, we had a nice time visiting the main buildings on our own, taking pictures (of course), and exploring the areas of the site that we had not had time to visit before. Although it became increasingly cloudy during our visit, it never rained.
After the excursion, we took the long, windy, and increasingly rough ferry ride from mainland Mexico back to the island of Cozumel in the dark. The ferry stopped at the shopping district, and we all disembarked. One of the women in our group was on a shopping mission, and we were all happy to assist! http://messages.cruisecritic.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
We finally boarded the ship at 10:30. We were all starving, as we had eaten only a light snack since 11:00 that morning! WHAT? We’re on a cruise, and we’re HUNGRY??? It can’t be true! We all hopped in the shower (not the same one— http://messages.cruisecritic.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif) and then headed up to the Lido deck for the 11:30 Mexican buffet. I’m not sure if the food was REALLY that good or if I was just that hungry, but it was some of the best food I ever had! LOL. We stuffed ourselves silly then the girls danced off the extra calories at the deck party while the guys talked about football or something equally manly nearby.
The next day was our final day at sea. We caught some rays on the Lido deck, and we all went to the highly amusing Newlywed and Not-so-Newlywed Game. After packing a gazillion items of clothing, souvenirs and photos into our luggage, we went to dinner and said goodbye to our dining room pals, Ketut and Lee. http://messages.cruisecritic.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif
DEBARKATION
We arrived in Miami before sunrise the next morning. Since our flight left Miami at 12:45, DH and I had decided to do the “express debarkation." The ship was cleared by Customs at 7:30, and we were off the ship within 5 minutes. Since our cabins were on the Empress deck (same deck as the gangway), we were able to just roll everything straight off the ship with no delay whatsoever. We were at the Miami airport by 8:30. Awesome!
Any of you who were familiar with my posts know that we usually cruise with our young children. Since this was our anniversary cruise, they stayed home with family. So "CabinForFour" was actually a cabin for two on this trip. This was our first time leaving them overnight for any length of time. In the months prior to our departure, we called our cruise "the trip," because four-year-old Benjamin genuinely enjoys cruising so much that we knew he would never forgive us for going on one without him. http://messages.cruisecritic.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Fortunately, both children adjusted very well and were spoiled rotten when we returned. We called home twice during the week only to find that Benjamin was far too busy to bother with speaking to us for more than a few seconds. He typed a few e-mails to send to us throughout the week, which was always a nice surprise when we checked our e-mail onboard. The carefree week away from the constant responsibility of having two young children was refreshing. That being said, we THOROUGHLY enjoy cruising WITH them as well, and they will definitely join us again on our next family cruise...whenever that may be. Next on our traveling itinerary is Disney World in December http://messages.cruisecritic.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif, so I don't imagine that we'll be cruising again for at least another year. http://messages.cruisecritic.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif
So that's basically it. Feel free to ask any questions if there's something I didn't cover. We had a fabulous time and wouldn't hesitate to sail this ship or itinerary again. Happy cruising, everyone!
Two Little Sailors: Victoria's First and Benjamin's Fourth cruise -- Carnival Victory, October 2003 (http://community.webshots.com/user/cabinforfour)
Benjamin Sails to Bermuda-- Carnival Triumph, May 2002 (http://community.webshots.com/user/travelingtots)
Benjamin's Birthday Cruise -- Carnival Destiny, Jan. 2002 (http://community.webshots.com/user/travelingtot)
Benjamin's First Cruise -- Carnival Victory 2000 (http://www7.50megs.com/jamine/benjamin's_first_cruise.htm)
Paradise 3/04 - Exotic W. Caribbean
Carnival Victory 10/03 - Bahamas
Carnival Triumph 5/02 - Bermuda
Carnival Destiny 1/02 - S. Caribbean
Carnival Victory 10/00 - Nassau
Inspiration 7/99 - S. Caribbean
Tropicale 1/99 - W. Caribbean
Carnival Destiny 7/97 - W. Caribbean
Fantasy 4/96 - Bahamas
Fantasy 7/94 - Bahamas
[This message was edited by CabinForFour on 04-04-04 at 10:30 PM.]
[This message was edited by CabinForFour on 04-04-04 at 10:32 PM.]