strange foods or just something you like added to the menu

[newmexicoNita]

Ok, I stole this from another thread, but it is fun and interesting. What would you like to see added to the menu on HAL ships or what is something very strange you like to eat that you can't get in restaurants or on ships?

I'll start: strange, well not too, but I could eat cucumber toast for breakfast every morning. We have an abundance of cukes in our garden this time of year and serve them anyway I can think of. As a kid we used to eat soda crackers and milk, but on a cruise ship I want Frog legs. That is the ultimate as far as I am concerned.

NMNita

[RuthC]

Bring back the warm chocolate truffle! Eating that was better than committing a mortal sin. :eek:

Have a choice of real maple syrup at breakfast.

[Toad]

Popovers! Fried Clams! Milk shakes!

[SnorkelBear]

Oh Nita. You opened a can of worms.

How about whole menus on a cruise. I would love to have to decide which night I would choose from the following menus.

Jean George
Alain Ducaise
Le Bec Fin
Chez Pannisse
The Herb Farm
French Laundry
Topolobampo
Nobu
Mansion on Turtle Creek
Inn at Little Washington
Farrallon (Just for you Dave)
Alioto's (Just for me Dave)

That's just a partial list. I know it's not exactly what you asked, but you sent me dreaming. If I can't have those, then I could always go for a really good BLT. Not just any BLT. A really good one. The kind of BLT that right now is starting to make me tear up just a little bit.

And in a pinch, I will take a combination of Lobsta and Beef Wellington.

Never cared much for Frog Legs. I have had them more than once, but I always thought they tasted a lot like Spotted Owl. (Insert chuckle here. I'm just kidding. About the Spotted Owl anyway.)

[hammybee]

My nectar, Dr. Pepper

Good as a side with Sambucca.

Even better with chocolate ice cream.

[mike35]

on a cruise ship I want Frog legs. That is the ultimate as far as I am concerned.

NMNita

Hi Nita

There are cruise ship frogs legs and then there are cruise ship frogs legs! Crystal serves HUGE frogs legs, sauteed and quite delicious! We had them as an entree one night, and when I asked a couple of nights later if we could have them as an appetizer, they served a huge platter of them.

On our recent Island Princess cruise, frogs legs were on the menu as an entree. When I ordered them, our wonderful waitress hinted against it, so we ordered something else. She brought an order of the frogs legs in addition, and they were miniscule and quite tasteless.

We love seared foie gras. Again, Crystal's excels, Oceania's is terrific, and Princess says, "you want what???".

Mike

[OceanLiner]

A few classics from the golden age of sailing:

Lobster Thermadore
Marrow Bones
Sardines with Crackers

[kakalina]

Great thread NMNita.
OMG the warm chocolate truffle Ruth I am salivating like a Pavlov dog. I would like to see fried clams also. Perhaps crumpets with tea. Cherries jubilee would be nice. . .so many hungry thoughts

[AlohaPride]

Something different? I'd like to see some Hawaiian, Japanese, and "local" food...

Lau Lau
Kalua Pig
Long Rice
Poi
Mochi
Seaweed (Nori)
Sticky White Rice
Haupia
Chicken Katsu
Meat Jun
Fish Jun
Fried Rice/Stir Fry
Chicken Adobo
Lumpia

Seriously, with all the Philipino employees, you'd think they would have some Philipino food :)

I don't know what DH is going to do for 2 weeks in NY and on the Noordam....he's going to go through "local" food withdrawls! Is any of this served?

[CoconutFish]

We would like to see more menu items from the countries being visited.

A few years ago, we had a Mexican night that we thought presented the best menu items of the whole cruise. There was even a Mexican selection for breakfast in the Lido. This Mexican night has not been repeated in four subsequent cruises.
The Chinese night was welcome on a South America cruise, but an Argentine night, etc would have been well received.
Through the Caribbean we have not noticed much emphasis on local cuisine, either.

And, of course, I would love to have Dutch night back with its interesting menu items. And a Belgian waffle station on every ship.
Otherwise, we agree that milkshakes would make a great addition.

[cands]

My vote goes for lamb's brains - a fantastic appetizer if correctly prepared. Best crumbed and deep fried. Yum - just like Mom used to make (really!).

Steve.

[cands]

Sorry, double post

[AlohaPride]

My vote goes for lamb's brains - a fantastic appetizer if correctly prepared. Best crumbed and deep fried. Yum - just like Mom used to make (really!).

Steve.

:eek: I think I might vomit.....:confused:

lol, just kidding....well, not really. It's kinda gross...

[cands]

:eek: I think I might vomit.....:confused:

lol, just kidding....well, not really. It's kinda gross...

Well, yes, but only if you think about it too much. We used to have them quite a lot as children, but as an adolescent I said 'No Way'. I redeveloped the taste in my twenties. Really quite a delicacy.
Now as for snails - double yuk from me;) .

[sail7seas]

Oh Nita. You opened a can of worms.

How about whole menus on a cruise. I would love to have to decide which night I would choose from the following menus.

Jean George
Alain Ducaise
Le Bec Fin
Chez Pannisse
The Herb Farm
French Laundry
Topolobampo
Nobu
Mansion on Turtle Creek
Inn at Little Washington
Farrallon (Just for you Dave)
Alioto's (Just for me Dave)




Sounds fabulous.

What do you suppose dinner at these places costs per person? $150?

Imagine what that sort of pricing per person per night will do to our cruise fares?
I'm not quite ready to increase our fares all that much in order to eat 'Mansion at Turtle Creek' caliber.....speaking only for myself, of course. :)

[Toad]

Good thing we all have different tastes. I do agree YUK to brains and legs! I feel the same way (YUK) about things like alligator as well.

[Copper10-8]

My vote goes for lamb's brains - a fantastic appetizer if correctly prepared. Best crumbed and deep fried. Yum - just like Mom used to make (really!).

Steve.

OK Steve; you're watching too many Indiana Jones movies!:eek: No soup for you dude, I mean mate!

I'd go with CocunutFish and the Mexican Food

#2 wish is authentic Cuban food:
Arroz con Pollo y frijoles negros/Yellow rice with chicken and black beans
Ropa Vieja/Shredded Beef in Creole Sauce
Lechon Cubano/Cuban Style Roast Pork
The Classic: Roast pork, sauteed chicken, Moros rice, sweet plantains, ham croquette and yucca in garlic sauce
Bistec Empanizado/Breaded Top Sirloin Steak
Picadillo A la Cubana/Seasoned ground beef. Cuban's "Sloppy Joe"

Mmmmmm, muy rico!:)

[hammybee]

Topolobampo

Topolo-a favorite and it goes down well with Dr. Pepper.

[hammybee]

:eek: I think I might vomit.....:confused:

lol, just kidding....well, not really. It's kinda gross...

Ditto

[newmexicoNita]

Oh Nita. You opened a can of worms.

How about whole menus on a cruise. I would love to have to decide which night I would choose from the following menus.

Jean George
Alain Ducaise
Le Bec Fin
Chez Pannisse
The Herb Farm
French Laundry
Topolobampo
Nobu
Mansion on Turtle Creek
Inn at Little Washington
Farrallon (Just for you Dave)
Alioto's (Just for me Dave)

That's just a partial list. I know it's not exactly what you asked, but you sent me dreaming. If I can't have those, then I could always go for a really good BLT. Not just any BLT. A really good one. The kind of BLT that right now is starting to make me tear up just a little bit.

And in a pinch, I will take a combination of Lobsta and Beef Wellington.

Never cared much for Frog Legs. I have had them more than once, but I always thought they tasted a lot like Spotted Owl. (Insert chuckle here. I'm just kidding. About the Spotted Owl anyway.)I am glad to hear you don't eat spotted owl too often. LOL As for those you mentioned: Mansion on Turtle Creek; you bet: Alioto's, I haven't eaten there in close to 40 years so don't know if it as good as before and the Inn at Little Washington: lived in the DC area for 7 years, ate lots of great places in Md but never quite made it to the Inn. of course it has the best reputation.

Nita

[newmexicoNita]

Hi Nita

There are cruise ship frogs legs and then there are cruise ship frogs legs! Crystal serves HUGE frogs legs, sauteed and quite delicious! We had them as an entree one night, and when I asked a couple of nights later if we could have them as an appetizer, they served a huge platter of them.

On our recent Island Princess cruise, frogs legs were on the menu as an entree. When I ordered them, our wonderful waitress hinted against it, so we ordered something else. She brought an order of the frogs legs in addition, and they were miniscule and quite tasteless.

We love seared foie gras. Again, Crystal's excels, Oceania's is terrific, and Princess says, "you want what???".

MikeMike, we did get them as an apptizer on Celebrity about 3 years ago but they were about the worst I have ever had. The ones I get here at Wal Mart are just as good: Crystal is out of our ball park, price wise. I guess I will have to try going to New Orleans. LOL

[MBeamTX]

Oh, I wish HAL would bring back a dessert we had at the Marco Polo restaurant (remember that? Pre-Pinnacle) on Zaandam: bittersweet chocolate mousse in an almond lace basket. Drooooool.

Happy cruising,
Susan

[Sunshine91]

Nita - You want frogs legs? How many? We got so many of the critters in our yard, I could catch 'em & send 'em to you. I'll even pay for shipping. In the spring, when they are, shall we say, romantic, they scream bloody murder. Right now I've got 3 or 4 regulars that spend every night at my back door.

Aloha - right there with you re: lamb brains, heck any kind of brains. I'll hold your hair if you'll hold mine. :)

I remember trying caviar & all its accompaniments on Veendam in 2001 & actually liking it. John couldn't stand it. On Noordam in February it wasn't offered. One of our CC group, Joyce, complained about the lack of it to a dining room captain. This was on the last formal night when everyone's dinner was wrong (I don't think hers ever came). If I remember correctly, they were going have the caviar for her the next day, but please don't quote me.

Now, I don't know if caviar is one of those no-no fish foods, like swordfish or something like that. If it IS OK to eat, I'd like to see it on the menu again. :)

[newmexicoNita]

Nita - You want frogs legs? How many? We got so many of the critters in our yard, I could catch 'em & send 'em to you. I'll even pay for shipping. In the spring, when they are, shall we say, romantic, they scream bloody murder. Right now I've got 3 or 4 regulars that spend every night at my back door.

Aloha - right there with you re: lamb brains, heck any kind of brains. I'll hold your hair if you'll hold mine. :)

I remember trying caviar & all its accompaniments on Veendam in 2001 & actually liking it. John couldn't stand it. On Noordam in February it wasn't offered. One of our CC group, Joyce, complained about the lack of it to a dining room captain. This was on the last formal night when everyone's dinner was wrong (I don't think hers ever came). If I remember correctly, they were going have the caviar for her the next day, but please don't quote me.

Now, I don't know if caviar is one of those no-no fish foods, like swordfish or something like that. If it IS OK to eat, I'd like to see it on the menu again. :) I can't do caviar to often, it is just too salty but I do Escargot as often as possible. I will tell you what, I will take your frog legs next spring if you will take my squash. I am going crazy picking it this year. I have invited the squash bugs to eat the squash for breakfast, lunch and dinner; even they are staying away.LOL

[Sueseb]

Toad -- I hope you mean REAL fried clams with the bellies. Now that would be a real treat -- even if it were only served on the Lido deck

[temple10]

Oh man I have held many conversations about this very topic. First and foremost, HP Sauce from england for my breakfast. Man that would complete my cruising experience.
Then I would also like to see buffalo wings, mozzarella sticks and onion rings and potato wedges as appetizers.(sp?) sorry.
and finally robertsons lemon curd.
Christine:)

[serendipity1499]

Plump, Sautéed Frogs Legs...They taste just like chicken
Roast chicken but only Dark meat..(the Prinsendam had it once) Dh will eat the white meat..
Spaghetti Bolognaese (sp?)
Lamb, Lamb, Lamb any kind of lamb (but NO Brains..YUK)
Red Snapper
Mussels from Brussels
Little Neck Clams
Manhattan Clam Chowder
A "Rare" Hamburger: (Hal's are like hockey pucks) with a Chocolate Malted for lunch..
Dark chocolate Mousse is to die for

Alligator ??? Went to a "Florida Cracker" restaurant with son's in-laws several years ago & his father-in-law ordered alligator..My DH & DS knew what it was but would not tell me till I tasted it..It was good, but not sure I would knowingly eat it again unless I had a few drinks first..;)

Happy Cruising all..:) Betty

[Copper10-8]

Oh Nita. You opened a can of worms.

How about whole menus on a cruise. I would love to have to decide which night I would choose from the following menus.

Jean George
Alain Ducaise
Le Bec Fin
Chez Pannisse
The Herb Farm
French Laundry
Topolobampo
Nobu
Mansion on Turtle Creek
Inn at Little Washington
Farrallon (Just for you Dave)
Alioto's (Just for me Dave)



Hey, they named a port/town on Mexico's Baja's peninsula (Sea of Cortez) after that restuarant, imagine that!:rolleyes:

[k8russ8]

:D Copper 10-8 My son is a Torrance Cop too. On Oosterdam 11/11

[Copper10-8]

:D Copper 10-8 My son is a Torrance Cop too. On Oosterdam 11/11

Very cool K8russ8; then I will know him;)

[cands]

Well, I'm deeply offended that no-one wants to see brains on the menu. (not really;) ).

I just wondered if anyone out there had actually tried them before making their 'yuk' decision?

I know I'm 'flogging a dead horse' here, but I found this recipe. Anyone game?

http://www.themainmeal.com.au/index.cfm?display=recipe&recipeID=130&pid=1&rc=red


Steve.

[Krazy Kruizers]

Would really love to see BIG lobster tails (like we used to get years ago) - not those 2 ounce ones that are served!!

[happy cruzer]

Hi, I posted some over on the foodies board. Did not seem to be many foodies around. For example when this question was asked over there, the main answer I remember was cinnamon buns. Now while popular as cinnamon buns can be, I'm not sure they would be my first choice.

Improve breakfast choices. I vote for better egg dishes for breakfast including ones made with egg whites. Like fratatas. also various breakfast potatoes like potatoe pancakes. and a variety of breakfast crepes and pancakes.

Also lots of caviar would be welcome. I think HAL still does it one night???

Escargot Provencal.

Ok, I can't stand it. I'll also ask the question I asked on the foodie page. What do you think of the different cruiselines number of courses and how they are served? HAL has Appetizer, soup, salad, and dessert. Some of the others have starters, salad, entree, dessert. Do you order all courses, some, and how long do you normally take to dine, how long would you like to take to dine? I could ask more...... but I will spare everyone.

[newmexicoNita]

Oh man I have held many conversations about this very topic. First and foremost, HP Sauce from england for my breakfast. Man that would complete my cruising experience.
Then I would also like to see buffalo wings, mozzarella sticks and onion rings and potato wedges as appetizers.(sp?) sorry.
and finally robertsons lemon curd.
Christine:)
NCL's newer ships have a little restaurant called Blue Lagoon that serves buffalo wings, mozzarella sticks (I think) and those types of goodies. They are open 24 hours a day; a fun place to grab a bite. they also offer good fish and chips, no lemon curd though. LOL

[newmexicoNita]

Hi, I posted some over on the foodies board. Did not seem to be many foodies around. For example when this question was asked over there, the main answer I remember was cinnamon buns. Now while popular as cinnamon buns can be, I'm not sure they would be my first choice.

Improve breakfast choices. I vote for better egg dishes for breakfast including ones made with egg whites. Like fratatas. also various breakfast potatoes like potatoe pancakes. and a variety of breakfast crepes and pancakes.

Also lots of caviar would be welcome. I think HAL still does it one night???

Escargot Provencal.

Ok, I can't stand it. I'll also ask the question I asked on the foodie page. What do you think of the different cruiselines number of courses and how they are served? HAL has Appetizer, soup, salad, and dessert. Some of the others have starters, salad, entree, dessert. Do you order all courses, some, and how long do you normally take to dine, how long would you like to take to dine? I could ask more...... but I will spare everyone.I guess we can tell how popular food is to all of us: I think most lines have similar courses, just may refer to them differently: appitizer, soup, salad, entree and dessert. Celebrity doesn't offer as many choices in their specialty restaurants, just 3, either soup or appitizer, emtree and dessert. DH almost always orders one of everything, sometimes he will skip the salad and sometimes 2 entrees (rarely) for me it depends. I only eat dessert once or twice on a cruise or any other time as a matter of fact. I always order one or two appitizers and salad, forgoing the soup most of the time. Rarely if ever would I order 2 entrees. We figure about an hour to an hour and 1/2 to eat. Now lets see what others have to say?

Isn't it nice to have a really light and entertaining subject.
NIta

[bdcbbq]

I really like the idea of authentic local food of the country or area the ship would be visiting. Soups, moles, etc. form Mexico vs. tacos.

Anther idea might be a Chef's special in the kitchen. A table would be set up in the kitchen, the chef would interview you to get an idea of your food style and then create a dinner for you from scratch while you watch. Or you pick a main ingredeint, and Iron Chef style the chef would cook your meal.

[kryos]

Ok, I stole this from another thread, but it is fun and interesting. What would you like to see added to the menu on HAL ships or what is something very strange you like to eat that you can't get in restaurants or on ships?

I just wish I could get a good, sopping Eyetalian Hoagie on the ship. Heck, if the steward would just let me behind that sandwich counter in the Lido, I'd even be happy to make it myself. They never do it just right for my tastes. :(

I only wish that sandwich area was set up as a buffet ... allowing you to make your own sandwiches. The ingredients are all there ... so there's no reason a proper hoagie can't be made.

Blue skies ...

--rita

[elmorejj]

Oh man I have held many conversations about this very topic. First and foremost, HP Sauce from england for my breakfast. Man that would complete my cruising experience.
Then I would also like to see buffalo wings, mozzarella sticks and onion rings and potato wedges as appetizers.(sp?) sorry.
and finally robertsons lemon curd.
Christine:)


Christine, I`m with you! Is the Golly still on the Robertsons jar?

And for my ex-pat friends, and our cousins from across the water, how about some British food?

Toad in the hole

Bubble & Squeak

Mince and Tatties

Fried black pudding for breakfast to go along with Christines HP sauce

Scones with REAL clotted cream

Chips and gravy

I could go on and on..........yummy!!:cool:

[mushroom]

Heck, you folks are way more sophisticated than me. I'd settle for good old peanut-butter toast in the mornings and pit-cooked bar-b-que, slaw and hushpuppies for lunch. This completes my definition of the "four food groups".

[HoneyGV]

Something different? I'd like to see some Hawaiian, Japanese, and "local" food...

Lau Lau
Kalua Pig
Long Rice
Poi
Mochi
Seaweed (Nori)
Sticky White Rice
Haupia
Chicken Katsu
Meat Jun
Fish Jun
Fried Rice/Stir Fry
Chicken Adobo
Lumpia

Seriously, with all the Philipino employees, you'd think they would have some Philipino food :)

I don't know what DH is going to do for 2 weeks in NY and on the Noordam....he's going to go through "local" food withdrawls! Is any of this served?

Kalua Pig gets my vote..along with Cracked Conch.;)

[HoneyGV]

Good thing we all have different tastes. I do agree YUK to brains and legs! I feel the same way (YUK) about things like alligator as well.

Awww, Alligator and froglegs...tastes...just like chicken--really!:)

Forgot to add rattlesnake meat!

[MBeamTX]

Heck, you folks are way more sophisticated than me. I'd settle for good old peanut-butter toast in the mornings and pit-cooked bar-b-que, slaw and hushpuppies for lunch. This completes my definition of the "four food groups".

Actually, there are five main food groups:

Deep-fried
Cheese-topped
Sauce/gravy-covered
Butter-drenched
Chocolate-dippedIf it can't be categorized in one of these groups, it's probably not worth eating. At least not on a cruise.

Some examples from each group: tempura shrimp, wiener schnitzel; fettucini allfredo, pizza; eggs benedict, mashed potatoes; lobster tail, corn on the cob; truffles, strawberries. You can even sneak salads in under categories 2 or 3, and cooked vegetables like broccoli or asparagus under categories 2, 3 or 4. Then you have compound foods, like chicken parmesan, that count under 1, 2 and 3. It's a very versatile system.

Happy sailing (and eating),
Susan

[RuthC]

Awww, Alligator and froglegs...tastes...just like chicken--really!:)
Then order---chicken! :D

How about a grinder and cabinet for lunch? ;) (What? Don't you speak Roe Dyland?)

[jagsfan]

Mince and tatties, fine, but I make them a couple of times a month for my
husband.......now, scones with clotted cream and preserves.....heaven.
I make scones and buy clotted cream at World Market and pretend I'm at
Brown's Hotel in London.
And no one has mentioned sauteed lamb kidneys........another thing you
have to have had as a child. Yum!
And think how good steamed Ipswich clams would be....guess keeping them
alive would be difficult..Mimi

Christine, I`m with you! Is the Golly still on the Robertsons jar?

And for my ex-pat friends, and our cousins from across the water, how about some British food?

Toad in the hole

Bubble & Squeak

Mince and Tatties

Fried black pudding for breakfast to go along with Christines HP sauce

Scones with REAL clotted cream

Chips and gravy

I could go on and on..........yummy!!:cool:

[WISCruiser]

I would love to see this German desert dish on board... Schaum Torte with Strawberries on top... Yum Yum Yum!

[GarySuzy]

This thread has made me hungry and I can't wait to be cruising - although the brains are a little much.

I saw Chicken Katsu, but how about Tonkatsu (pork), Yakitori, sukiyaki, yakiniku, tempura (like my DW makes).

Also, Potato Pancakes in the morning.

Pickeled Pigs Feet when I drink beer.

[Toad]

Toad -- I hope you mean REAL fried clams with the bellies. Now that would be a real treat -- even if it were only served on the Lido deck

Naturally REAL FRIED CLAMS! WE travel between Cape Cod our home and Maine!

[Sunshine91]

Copper - There's a restaurant in Baja called Can o Worms? ;) :D

KK - Totally agree about them lobster tails. When they brought out John's 2 little itty bitty tails in February, they looked like crawdads!

Rita - Ahhh, a hoagie, or a grinder, would be a great lunch or late night snack.

Our friends from across the pond - Lemon curd in the morning on a scone or crumpet - yummy!

[7x5090g]

My vote goes for lamb's brains - a fantastic appetizer if correctly prepared. Best crumbed and deep fried. Yum - just like Mom used to make (really!).

Steve.

That how the mad cow disease started:eek:

[Copper10-8]

Copper - There's a restaurant in Baja called Can o Worms? ;) :D

KK - Totally agree about them lobster tails. When they brought out John's 2 little itty bitty tails in February, they looked like crawdads!

Rita - Ahhh, a hoagie, or a grinder, would be a great lunch or late night snack.

Our friends from across the pond - Lemon curd in the morning on a scone or crumpet - yummy!

Yeah gracias, there's also one called Montezuma's revenge - you can drink all the water you want!

[cands]

That how the mad cow disease started:eek:

Funny, I thought it had something to do with cows. (not sure why I thought that:) )

[gizmo]

I just wish I could get a good, sopping Eyetalian Hoagie on the ship. Heck, if the steward would just let me behind that sandwich counter in the Lido, I'd even be happy to make it myself. They never do it just right for my tastes. :(

I only wish that sandwich area was set up as a buffet ... allowing you to make your own sandwiches. The ingredients are all there ... so there's no reason a proper hoagie can't be made.

Blue skies ...

--rita

Try asking for oil ! They will think you are nuts. ;)

If they would only add Scrapple to the menu. Yum

[babyher]

Definately would love the whole belly clams :)

I agree when frogs legs are done right, they are quite good.

Its so funny what one of the above posters said about not thinking about what a certain dish is otherwise you wouldn't enjoy it

One time I switched on a cooking show on Food Network in the last few minutes of the show. They had already finished cooking and had all the dishes beautifully plated and displayed like they usually do on these shows.

Just looking at them all, everything looked delicious, I couldn't tell what they were, (some kind of meat or poultry dishes,??????) but they sure looked good.


Then the host did a recap of everything she had made.


One dish was calves brains
one was lamb kidney
one was tripe, the lining of a cows stomach
one was some other "organ" meat I can't remember now

I must admit that got a "YUK" out of me :). But the dishes still looked really good, good enough that I might be brave enough to try it.

[jagsfan]

Then order---chicken! :D

How about a grinder and cabinet for lunch? ;) (What? Don't you speak Roe Dyland?)
OK, what is cabinet.....grinders we call subs, but our cabinets hold kitchen
dishes and glasses etc.

[RuthC]

OK, what is cabinet.....
In Massachusetts it would be called a "frappe". Anywhere else it would be called a "milk shake". In Roe Dyland it's a "cabinet".
You see, in Roe Dyland a "milk shake" is just that---it's flavored milk that's been shaken. No ice cream.

[newmexicoNita]

In Massachusetts it would be called a "frappe". Anywhere else it would be called a "milk shake". In Roe Dyland it's a "cabinet".
You see, in Roe Dyland a "milk shake" is just that---it's flavored milk that's been shaken. No ice cream. Gee I thought it might be another name for a hoogie or grinder or poor boy. We learn something everyday. A good milk shake and a good hoogie would be worth extra money for me. Of course here in New Mexico if it doesn't come with red or green chili it shouldn't be eaten. NMNita