Curfew for teens

[tef43]

I saw posted on another board here that RCCL has a 1 am curfew for teens, and enforces it!

What an excellent idea!

Are you reading this, Carnival?

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[L2J]

I'll vote for midnight or.....no one under 25 allowed.

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[tef43]

Liv,

How did I know you'd be first in line to post a reply to this thread?

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[Brneyznfl]

When I went on the Explorer of the Seas, the Captain mandated a curfew as the kids were getting so out of control. He made it very clear that parents and their children were subject to deportation at the next port. I thought it was a great idea.

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[L2J]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by tef43:
Liv,

How did I know you'd be first in line to post a reply to this thread?

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Don't know Tef. I've never posted on this type of thread before.

Deportation?

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[Brneyznfl]

Ok wrong phrasing.. i.e. they will get their behinds kicked off the ship. http://messages.cruisecritic.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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[crewser]

Midnight sounds great to me! Then I won't have to go out looking for my teens at 2am (just kidding).
I really do like the idea of a curfew for teens though.

[tef43]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by livtojump:
Deportation?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Brneyznfl:
Ok wrong phrasing.. i.e. they will get their behinds kicked off the ship. http://messages.cruisecritic.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Perhaps it is time to revive that thread that discussed "dismemberment procedures" a couple of months back?

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[Brneyznfl]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by tef43:

Perhaps it is time to revive that thread that discussed "dismemberment procedures" a couple of months back?
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LOL! http://messages.cruisecritic.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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[L2J]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by tef43:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by livtojump:
Deportation?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Brneyznfl:
Ok wrong phrasing.. i.e. they will get their behinds kicked off the ship. http://messages.cruisecritic.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Perhaps it is time to revive that thread that discussed "dismemberment procedures" a couple of months back?

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LOL...I was thinking the same thing.

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[CruiseFever]

I have kids, good kids, that have movie parties in their cabin or our cabin where they invite friends they met on board. They'll order room service and make a safe late night activity out of it often going well past midnight or 1AM.

Sometimes they'll leave and go look at the stars on deck (since their cheap dad stuck them in an inside cabin) but in no way are they the nuisance that other teens may very well be.

The thing is, security will be chasing down the ones that break curfew anyway, why can't they just do their jobs and keep the area secure, confining offenders to their cabins or making them walk the plank.

If I didn't have kids that this would have a direct effect on I wouldn't care but I do so I must

Lock up those bad teens, throw them off at the next port along with their slacker parents who let them run wild but don't punish the good kids too

Happy Cruising

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[NAVY WIFE]

I second that Chris!

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[OhioBeachBum]

I TOTALLY AGREE WITH CHRIS! I've taught my kids to behave and respect those around them. They shouldn't have to curb their activities just because of a few bad apples. They're on vacation too!

Loved the Miracle 4/12/04

Great, now I'm hooked!

[L2J]

Well it's those "bad apples" that ruin it for the rest of them.

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[selucrey]

I agree w/Chris on this one.


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[halos]

I have to also agree with Chris. I'm taking my two good teens and traveling with another family with 2 good teens as well. They deserve to be out and about until the curfew I impose brings them back to their cabin.
Bad teens should be dismembered http://messages.cruisecritic.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
I mean, thrown off the ship...along with their parents.
Actually, most of the time, when I see bad kids (of any age) it's the parents I'd like to throttle. Some people have no idea how to be parents. They want to be their kids friends...it's sad.
I am blessed. If you see two girls following around their Mother and Father saying 'thank you" every three seconds....they're my kids.
and IF they EVER did anything that was even slightly disruptive on the ship
I'D gladly throw them off the ship myself.
(they know this, which is why they don't give me any problems).

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[L2J]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by selucrey:
Liv;Do you have a twin named tef? http://messages.cruisecritic.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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LOL....no but we certainly do see eye to eye on this.

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[tef43]

From what I can glean, they only roust the rambunctious offenders. The well-behaved teens, such as Chris' and halos' are free to enjoy their vacations. Demonstrated maturity has its priviledges.

The policy is in place on RCCL "just in case" it needs to be enforced. I still applaud them for taking that step, but am at the same time saddened that they felt that they had to resort to it. It's a commentary on the parenting.

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[cruisn4evr]

Chris....As usual I couldn't agree with you more! I always set my own curfew and my son has never never been late.(usually he's a bit early!) We tend to bend the rules every now and then because he has never abused any privileges. I think if the cruise lines had a curfew he might want to rebel.

[jedgar]

Parents don't be afraid to be boss. Children are constantly testing, attempting to see how much they can get away with - how far you will let them go - and they secretly hope yuou will not let them go too far.

[cnohmo]

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[USA41018]

We also have a great teen, he's graduating from high school and we are taking him on the Elation 5/23. Don't punish the good kids along with the noisy ones. We trust him totally.

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[hstrybuf]

I'm in a quandry here. I like the idea of a curfew, but wouldn't want to see the good kids punished because of the rowdy ones. The fact is, the ones causing problems can do it at any time of the day or night and the parents should be answerable for the actions of their children.

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[Pat41]

I agree with those that say to not punish the good kids for the bad kids' actions. Carnival just needs to enforce the rules they have....not make new ones.


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Liv;Do you have a twin named tef?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Funny I noticed the same thing. Whenever tef posts something, Liv is sure to come along with an "atta boy" real quick. No matter what the topic.

Pat the Beancounter

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I heard thats there a curfew on all HAL ships 10:00pm for anyone 55 or older! lol.....

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[L2J]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Pat41:
Funny I noticed the same thing. Whenever tef posts something, Liv is sure to come along with an "atta boy" real quick. No matter what the topic.

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I think I'll just take that with a grain of salt. While we don't "know" each other except for this board I think there are several issues in which we do agree on. Proper attire, curfew and kiddies in the pools/hot tubs, adult only cruises just to name a few. As far as "no matter what the topic"....Not - but his posts are not only informative but almost always humorous.


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Wow Liv, I am sure glad that I will be 25 on our Valor Vampire cruise next year

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[oldvato]

We also have a great teen, he's graduating from high school and we are taking him on the Elation 5/23. Don't punish the good kids along with the noisy ones. We trust him totally.

Why don't you send him to Cancun with his friends instead of on a cruise with you?

[DiveCruiser]

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[L2J]

They shouldn't have to. Unfortunately it's the few hellions that ruin it for the rest of them.

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[halos]

DiveCruiser,
I probably can assume since you are the type of parent who assigns a curfew to your kids, that your kids are NOT the kind of kids that actually need one.
It's the parents who let their kids do what they please that always are the problem.

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[PINEVIEW01]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I'm taking my two good teens and traveling with another family with 2 good teens as well. They deserve to be out and about until the curfew I impose brings them back to their cabin.
Bad teens should be dismembered http://messages.cruisecritic.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
I mean, thrown off the ship...along with their parents.
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I have raised three girls thru their teens. One thing I've learned, no matter how good or bad, the parent always know THIER teens are good. I have never seen a parent of the bad teens acknowledge their teen is a bad one.

That said when parents aren't around we really don't know how our teens behave. We just try to raise them the best we can and hope for the best. We were on one cruise with two teens and the majority of the young people acted like young people, no major problems. We've been on one other cruise where the teens were so bad that they made the cruise very unpleasent for the rest. I had a teen on this trip and she was even upset by the behavior and would have welcomed an enforced curfew.

Melody

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[tcsmithh]

being a father of 5, this is very intresting. Like most parents, i think my kids know right from wrong. I doubt that they would want to stay out that late on the ships (we will find out next year when i bring the whole bunch on the valor, 17 apr 05). That being said, have any of you ever told the troublesom kids to knock it off (remember the anology, a village rases a child). I do and recieve about a 50% positive responce, the kids that do not respond well, normally stay away. if that does not work, then esclation is in order.....

just my thoughts
-tom

[halos]

Pineview...I understand what you said but I have to disagree.
If you have constant comments from school teachers, neighbors and your child's friend's parents telling you that your child is terrific...well then, chances are your kid is good.
I have always been proud of my children's manners, their conscientious and compassionate nature and their morals. When my kids see 'bad' teens/pre teens, they roll their eyes right along with me.
They actually have told me on many occasions that they are thankful that their father and I were 'strict' with them and they now understand why...when they see out of control behavior from other kids it is very obvious to them as well as other adults.
I know they are not perfect little Angels, but I can take them anywhere and know in my heart that they will never give me a reason to feel embarrassed at their behavior. They always make me proud.
I workd da**ed hard to manage to pull off having kids that are that good and I don't mind tooting my own horn about them. It isn't easy raising a good kid, but I managed it somehow.
And yes...I am sure that they are good.

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[cnohmo]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>.....Heather......http://messages.cruisecritic.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Perhaps I should see about a birthday drink for my 26th on the cruise on 11/4?? http://messages.cruisecritic.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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[spongerob]

I posed this question not long ago on the Princess board. I would really like to agree with Chris and say that such rules are not necessary for the majority of teens. Until recently, I would have agreed. After a spring-break cruise, though, my limit of tolerance was exceeded. It wasn't one specific event, but a series of incidents that finally caused me to question the policies that allow teens access to most areas of the ship at any hour without their parents' supervision.

I can also say that on that particular cruise we met some of the nicest and most polite teens you would ever want to meet, and some of the rudest. Sadly, the girls were as bad, and in some cases worse, than the boys. Without going into details, we were subject to or witnessed 1) sexually aggressive behavior 2) violent behavior 3) drunkenness and 4) illegal drug use. After all of this, my sensibilities have changed and I am much more sensitive to the bad behavior.

Teens are old enough to know the difference between right and wrong, and with their freedom, limited though it might be, comes responsibility for their own actions. Like some adults, teens like to push the limits of what is tolerable, and sometimes get out of line. When such behavior becomes commonplace, action must be taken. A policy such as RCCL's allows the ship's staff some discretion while permitting action to be taken when necessary.

Perhaps putting the onus on teens is the wrong idea, though. Would it make more sense to put the responsiblity for their childrens' behavior where it belongs, with the parents? It is understood that anyone who poses a danger to themselves, other passengers, or crew members can be disembarked at the Captain's discretion. Do we need to have a more binding contract with parents, along the lines of the now-defunct tobacco policy on the Paradise? Those parents who have perfect children would have nothing to worry about, while those who might have questions about what their kids are up to would have a little more incentive to be parents.

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[sea-cruise]

I'm only on this board once in a while, but happened to see this topic, and would like to add my 2 cents worth. Our daughters never gave us any trouble at school or otherwise, and now we'll be taking our 19 yr old (college student) and 15 yr old (h.s. student) grandsons on a cruise this summer. They aren't abnormal, both have steady girlfriends and part time jobs, but they don't drink and they spend free time either enjoying our pool or at home renting movies with their friends. They donate time to the SturgeWebber foundation (kids with deformaties/birth defects) and help their father at the Lutheran church running a weight lifting program for kids without fathers, etc. They are often left out and not invited to parties because they don't drink, but they are just as happy not being invited because although they are friends with almost everyone, they don't feel that they miss out. We grandparents will see that they are not out all night long on the cruise, because we care about them. They know that, and they know that we love them, that's why we worry. How sad that some teens run wild, but then look at how many 3 year olds run wild with no dicipline at all. Have you tried to enjoy a dinner in a restaurant lately where young parents ignore the crazed rantings and screaming of an out of control toddler? They usually turn into a crazed out of control teen.

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[halos]

I can see where a spring break cruise would be an issue. Teens are definitely worse when there are LOTS of them together...it's that mob mentality thing. (in all fairness, I have seen grown men act like idiots when in groups while drinking as well, unfortunately)
If the cruise lines established rules against certain behaviors and enforced them by punishing kids that broke those rules, I'd be all for that. I just can't see having a curfew to cover all teens when there are some...maybe not a lot, but some, that really are truly well behaved.
I guess because I was basically a good kid, and there were times when for instance the whole class was punished for something that one or two students did, that always pissed me off in a big way...so I never agree to 'blanket' rules or punishments for everyone.
I would be all for taking responsibility for my child if she was disembarked because of bad behavior. I would sign a contract like the one you suggested...although we know something like that would never fly, unfortunately. Parents should be held accountable for their kids. I fully agree with that....but I'd wager that the kids on the ship for spring break were probably over the age of 21 anyway, correct? How long is a parent responsible?
If more parents were responsible when kids are younger, there would be less bad behavior.
Out of control little kids are more likely to turn into bad teens. When you are on the ship and see the 6 through 12 year old kids getting the best of their parents, they are the future teens you'll need to worry about.

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[sea-cruise]

I'm in total agreement with halos!

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[CruiseFever]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Out of control little kids are more likely to turn into bad teens. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Now THAT I can attest to.

Those same kids that were little brats in elementary school and allowed to "express themselves" to the detriment of all those around them in public places are the ones in trouble in High School and the ones that have a questionable future in life.

NOW how important was it for me to insist on proper behavior from our kids when they were little?

I think it made all the difference in the world.

I rest my case

Happy Cruising

Chris

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[spongerob]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by halos:
but I'd wager that the kids on the ship for spring break were probably over the age of 21 anyway, correct? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

We had our fair share of those, too. In a happy (depending on your point of view) turn of events, some of those WERE disembarked. Sometimes the system works as it should.

I hated it, too, when I had to accept a group punishment because someone else got in trouble. What I can't accept is that a common situation, and the subject of much discussion on the various boards, continues to get worse. Out of venting and discussion might come some good ideas that will allow all of us to enjoy our cruise vacations.

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[kapcruiser]

I am taking my 3 teens with us on our first cruise. I have 3 great boys and I expect them to be on their best behavior. They have never given me a problem on any vacation. I try to give them some freedom but not too much. My 13 year old will have to been watched more carefully because he is still young. I think I should be able to decide what time their curfew should be.

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[strawberrybisque]

I am the mother of three good boys and I don't think I'd take it personally (for my kids) if the cruise line enforced a curfew. What responsible parent lets their kids wander around out and about at midnight or later anyway? Kids belong at home (or in this case their cabin)once it gets to be late unless they are accompanied by their parents. They are children (teens are still children) and there is really no reason they NEED to be out that late anyway so I guess this whole issue with cruise lines potentially setting curfews doesn't rattle me at all. No big deal.

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[cruisingator2]

Not sure about there being a curfew. I just think that parents need to be parents and the cruise line should hold them responsible for their kids.

I read last month where the captain on RCI's Mariner of the Seas put two familes off at their first stop in Nassau due to breaking the rules set by the cruise line. He placed another family off at the second stop. This is what the cruise lines need to do in order to get some parents attention and make them realize that they may be on a vacation but they are not on vacation from being a parent. Carnival needs to adopt a similar policy.

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[Vidimom]

I think some of the parents need the curfew more than the kids! I have seen some parents acting alot worse than any of the kids I have seen on a ship!

We didn't give our daughter a curfew on our last cruise with our kids, but we did go and check up on her discreetly, of course, and the worse thing we saw were the kids were all sitting and eating pizza and laughing at 1:30am! If that is too rowdy, were in trouble.

If the parents would just check on their kids once in awhile on the cruise as to where they are and what they are doing, no curfew would be needed.

I agree about kicking the families off if they are really that bad! Maybe this will be the wakeup call they need and realize their little angels are not as perfect as they thought!

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[halos]

gator,
I think it's great that RCI forced a couple families off the ship.
It's amazing that behavior has gotten so bad that this needs to be done...but I'm all for it.
What happened to parenting? Something has gone wrong somewhere.

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[L2J]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by halos:
What happened to parenting? Something has gone wrong somewhere.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

In a word....Society.



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[CruiseFever]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> What happened to parenting? Something has gone wrong somewhere <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Happy Cruising

Chris

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[halos]

It's sad.

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MIRACLE JUNE 19, 2004
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[PINEVIEW01]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I am the mother of three good boys and I don't think I'd take it personally (for my kids) if the cruise line enforced a curfew. What responsible parent lets their kids wander around out and about at midnight or later anyway? Kids belong at home (or in this case their cabin)once it gets to be late unless they are accompanied by their parents. They are children (teens are still children) and there is really no reason they NEED to be out that late anyway so I guess this whole issue with cruise lines potentially setting curfews doesn't rattle me at all. No big deal.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That is just how I feel. It is not a group punishment, just good parenting.

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[halos]

If my teens were 13 and 14, I might feel that way...but we are traveling with two 19 year olds and two 16 year olds. If they want to go and have pizza at 2am, I think they should be allowed without a curfew.
But like I said, if either of my two girls were disruptive and behaving badly http://messages.cruisecritic.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif, I'd toss them off the ship myself http://messages.cruisecritic.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif and I'd be tempted to do it before we arrived at port.
More than likely the two 16 year olds will be asleep by midnight...but since the two 19 year olds are now in college and are living with different 'internal body clocks' than the rest of civilization, they may be up unil a lot later. I haven't decided what curfew I will be issuing yet. Guess I need to discuss this with my DH.

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[JGB]

Well I'll jump in here.
I have a daughter now 16 but we have been cruising since she was 7. Of course early on in our cruising career she had a curfew. But this dropped away as time went on. However when she was a preteen even though she did not have a curfew per se we were all in one room and as a courtesy to us we expected her in at a reasonable hour so that we were not awoken. We usually turn in before mid night.
Now as time went on and she started to invite a friend along and she was now in a seperate cabin.We put in the following policies. You can stay up as late as you wish but you can never seperate nor enter anothers cabin. If there is any trouble or one of the above rules is broken then an early curfew will be enforced. On evenings prior to an early shore excursion the next day 6 hours sleep minimally must be gotten. This has worked for us.
Happy cruising!

John