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slgjhg
September 8th, 2006, 10:51 PM
Hi All,

Apparently, Celebrity will no longer be offering "Bridg Play and Instruction", on their cruises. Any comments or thoughts?

I know many passangers who love their Bridge on sea days, what about you.

One more way to not give the passengers something they really enjoy for free!!!!

Regards,

Shannon

babylene
September 8th, 2006, 10:55 PM
One of the reasons we began to cruise in the first place. Where did you hear of this? Our last cruise had 8 seadays and Bridge was what we did. Fortunately our next cruise has only 2 seadays out of 11. If this is true, I hope they reinstate it.

Sky Sweet
September 8th, 2006, 11:03 PM
Hi All,

Apparently, Celebrity will no longer be offering "Bridg Play and Instruction", on their cruises. Any comments or thoughts?

I know many passangers who love their Bridge on sea days, what about you.

One more way to not give the passengers something they really enjoy for free!!!!

Regards,

Shannon

This really surprises me, because on our last few Celebrity Cruises there was so many bridge players that some of us had to play in another room. Are you sure about this? If so, how did you hear about it?

I will be very upset if they go though with this because I love Bridge and look forward to it on sea days. My husband and I have also found that we always meet the nicest people playing bridge.

slgjhg
September 8th, 2006, 11:30 PM
Hi guys,

I am Shannon's husband and I an a Bridge Director for a number of companies, including Sixth Star Entertainment who provides Briddge Directors for a number of cruise lines, including Celebrity.

Sixth Star was informed by Celebrity that with t he exception of Trans-Atlantic, Trans-Canal, and one other type of cruise, that they will not be offering organized Bridge. Several of my friends who teach and direct Bridge have had their cruises cancelled.

We have cruised Celebrity and enjoyed our Bridge, so naturally we are very sad about this.

Jay

Ma Bell
September 9th, 2006, 12:56 AM
I'm very disappointed to hear this. It's one of the things I really enjoy on sea days.

~Cruisenut~
September 9th, 2006, 07:13 AM
First X cuts benefits of the Captain's Club, we hear rumors of the end of the dance-host program, now organized bridge will be cut back... Death by a thousand cuts..:(


Come writers and critics
Who prophesize with your pen
And keep your eyes wide
The chance won't come again
And don't speak too soon
For the wheel's still in spin
And there's no tellin' who
That it's namin'.
For the loser now
Will be later to win
For the times they are a-changin'.
Dylan would say: "I can't really say that adults don't understand young people any more than you can say big fishes don't understand little fishes. I didn't mean ['The Times They Are a-Changin'] as a statement... It's a feeling."

babylene
September 9th, 2006, 08:25 AM
When we switched to cruising, we really liked it mainly because we stay out of the sun and there is very little else to do at a beach resort....but if Celebrity eliminates the activities...they eliminate one of the main attractions of cruising! We are not interested in the Casino, bingo, trivia, etc. So, it will be back to reading books, just like we did on land.....not too enticing!

slgjhg
September 9th, 2006, 04:47 PM
It's likely too late for 2007, but maybe a bunch of letters or emails to Celebrity will show interest and perhaps prompt reconsideration.

Jay

Sky Sweet
September 9th, 2006, 05:08 PM
It's likely too late for 2007, but maybe a bunch of letters or emails to Celebrity will show interest and perhaps prompt reconsideration.

Jay

I just called Celebrity to express the way I feel about their decision to eliminate bridge, but the person I spoke to was unaware of the situation. Who at Celebrity knows and is in a position to do something about it?

poetic license
September 9th, 2006, 05:42 PM
Hmmmmm. Each ship has a card room. I wonder what revenue-generating activity is going to replace bridge and utilize those dedicated rooms?

Seems as though a letter writing campaign is in order --- and quickly!

Ma Bell
September 9th, 2006, 06:04 PM
I sent them an email note yesterday.

babylene
September 9th, 2006, 06:21 PM
I also would like to do something. Would you kindly give me the appropriate e-mail address? Thank you.

deb18
September 9th, 2006, 06:33 PM
This is distressing! I wonder what else they are going to cut back on?

Host Andy
September 9th, 2006, 07:10 PM
Hmmmmm. Each ship has a card room. I wonder what revenue-generating activity is going to replace bridge and utilize those dedicated rooms?

Seems as though a letter writing campaign is in order --- and quickly!

Hi Everyone !

While I have no personal interest in Bridge... for those that do enjoy it, I am sorry to hear it is being removed. I am wondering if Celebrity has plans to make this an extension of the Casino.... a Poker Room perhaps ? Just a thought.

For those that are upset about this decision, by all means... call and email Captains Club, and let them know how you feel. If enough people let Celebrity know... perhaps they will reconsider. Good Luck !

slgjhg
September 9th, 2006, 09:25 PM
Hi again,

As I said before, my source is Sixth Star and whoever gives them their marching orders at Celebrity is the source and there can be no doubt as to its accuracy. As to what might take the place of Bridge, it may be as simple as eliminating the Bridge Teacher/Director position and keeping the card room. That would save them the cabin that we occupy. Doesn't seem like very much.

I have no firm source for this, but there are whispers that there are plans to install an Internet cafe which is viewed as revenue producing. This would go in the current card room. This RUMOR is spreading about Celebrity and other lines as well.

Good luck with your letter writing.

Jay

BaltiGator
September 11th, 2006, 10:11 AM
I'm not looking to defend X's decision here, but one does have to acknowledge that bridge, sadly, is a game whose minions are rapidly diminishing in the U.S. I'm in my 40s and virtually none of my friends even know the basic concepts of the game, let alone have ever played. Yes it's thriving on the Internet, but few of the players I encounter there are American. Yes Bill Gates and Warren Buffet want school kids to learn it (let's hope they put their $ where their mouths are on that one), but in the meantime one is hard-pressed to find American bridge players younger than the older baby-boomers.

So X is just acknowledging, I think, that a small and diminishing percentage of its customer base cares about bridge.

Having said that, nothing stops bridge players from gathering amongst ourselves in the card room and forming foursomes to play. We witnessed this on Connie, where the card room was daily full of incidental bridge games. (Coincidentally, on our cruise Connie also carried a large group of Australian bridge players who had taken the cruise as part of an organized bridge event - they played duplicate among themselves down in the conference rooms.) But in the card room, score pads and playing cards were handy, you just sat down and waited for other bridge players to come along.

The lack of formal instruction and organization may be a blow, but it won't stop hardy bridge fans from finding their game on board.

On the other hand, if Celebrity goes so far as to do away with the card rooms, now that would really stink.

Sky Sweet
September 11th, 2006, 11:11 AM
Hi Baltigator :)

I agree that Bridge is not popular with the younger generation, and could understand Celebrity's decision if their Bridge Program did not attract many of its passengers. However, during our last few cruises, people who came to Bridge Class at the last minute had trouble finding a seat, while the afternoon Bridge game had so many players it was necessary to use an additional room for it.

During the sixties, many people learned how to play Bridge in college dorms/fraternity houses and that is supposedly the type of passenger that Celebrity aims to attract.

The only possible reason I could think of for this decision is that Celebrity is trying to attract a younger demographic and wants to revamp its programs accordingly.

~Cruisenut~
September 11th, 2006, 11:23 AM
During the sixties, many people learned how to play Bridge in college ... that is supposedly the type of passenger that Celebrity aims to attract.

How did you find out what my major was?:D

Sky Sweet
September 11th, 2006, 11:56 AM
How did you find out what my major was?:D

Hi Arno...Great response :)

Ships R Great
September 11th, 2006, 12:32 PM
We have this problem solved. On our last three cruises (and at least our next two) we have just gone as a foursome and have our own bridge game wherever we like. Usually in the Rendesvouz lounge or the Sky Bar. Helps kill time waiting in airports, too.

babylene
September 11th, 2006, 01:43 PM
There is no comparison between duplicate bridge and kitchen (party) bridge.

Ma Bell
September 11th, 2006, 01:49 PM
There is no comparison between duplicate bridge and kitchen (party) bridge.

I agree.

Chick's pal
September 11th, 2006, 01:59 PM
My suggestion to Bridge lovers is to find a production company to bankroll a program on TV. Like Poker and ballroom dancing, perhaps this is what it takes to cause a resurgence in interest?!

Personally, I am concerned that the LIBRARY will be closed next. After all, does the target demographic actually "read"?

SusieV
September 11th, 2006, 08:30 PM
Bridge is being increasingly marketed to young people, one reason this cut surprises me.

My husband and I play for the Canadian National Junior team and we just returned from the world championships in Thailand. We are actively involved in the promotion of bridge among younger people. Heck, if there are tournament players here I wouldn't be surprised if you know us in real life! We get to a lot of events in the USA as well.

I'm disappointed because we were considering applying to becomes bridge teachers with Celebrity. Personally, I'd rather not play on a cruise ship because the standard is more social than competitive and it's not my style, but I think this was a poor decision because I am sure a significant percentage of cruisers enjoy playing while on vacation.

What's next?

ladysail2
September 11th, 2006, 09:42 PM
Congratulations on making the Canadian National Junior team, Susie. That is quite an accomplishment. Our BIL competed on the Canadian National Team in Japan....in 1991...but we still talk about it.....!!

Rats, dh won't cruise and here I was woo-ing him with promises of Duplicate Bridge games everyday. Is it true that the players can earn points if a Director is present? Provided that they are still hired to direct games.

Their are other cruise lines that hire Bridge teachers and Directors...friends of ours just came back from several contracts of teaching and directing Bridge. They loved it.

SusieV
September 11th, 2006, 11:31 PM
Ladysail- I might know your BIL, then! I just pulled up the roster for the Yokohama team and I know a few of the players on it.

It's cool no matter when it was :)

Edit: Just saw your location in Ottawa. I have some bridge friends out there and I've played at your regional in the past!

chumley
September 12th, 2006, 12:05 AM
This is so disappointing! On our Summit cruise in 12/06 to Hawaii, we had a large duplicate game going all 10 sea days. It was fabulous and standing room only, with at least 9-10 tables each session. Yes, you do get MPs if a director is running the game and my son and I had a blast and won several points in the process. My son is only 14 but loves the game and this was a great way to play duplicate with him. I would understand Celebrity's pov if the bridge wasn't well attended, but that was hardly the case. :confused:

Leslie

CAKER
September 12th, 2006, 01:26 AM
While at the Wharton School (Univ. of PA, not Penn State), I played duplicate a couple times a week. Then I used to play at a Bridge Club near my home. My greatest memory, retrospectively, was that several years after that, one of the partners I had when he filled in that game was Bobby Goldman, who later became a member of the Dallas Aces, one of the elite Bridge Teams in the world. I was never in his class, but it was really great to have known and played with him.

After 43 years of marriage, my wife took up bridge about a year ago, and really loves it. She has taken lessons and played twice a week for several months now, and the first thing she reads every morning is the bridge hand in the newspaper.

We are on the 10/17 Millennium Venice to Barcelona, cabin 9131. If you are on that cruise, and are interested, e-mail me at jlzalles@msn.com

David Zalles (and Judy)

CAKER
September 12th, 2006, 01:28 AM
(erased duplicate)

Longboysfan
September 12th, 2006, 08:03 AM
Hmmmmm. Each ship has a card room. I wonder what revenue-generating activity is going to replace bridge and utilize those dedicated rooms?

Seems as though a letter writing campaign is in order --- and quickly!

They still have the dailies show the time and place to meet for Bridge.
You just have to get yourselves together to get a game.

ladysail2
September 12th, 2006, 08:31 AM
Ladysail- I might know your BIL, then! I just pulled up the roster for the Yokohama team and I know a few of the players on it.

It's cool no matter when it was :)

Edit: Just saw your location in Ottawa. I have some bridge friends out there and I've played at your regional in the past!

Susie...his initials are DH....he's a really nice fellow.

Maybe our paths have crossed too...I've played in our Regionals ....but it's my dh who's passion is Bridge....I'm more of a social duplicate player..don't like the pressure side of the game.

I might start playing again sometime...so maybe we'll meet at some point in time. Keep enjoying the game...it keeps the brain cells active...:D

hajekfam
September 12th, 2006, 09:17 AM
Just because they cancelled the "pros" doesn't mean that they are cutting out bridge or the card room.
They also cancelled their professional ballroom instructors, but still offer lessons (taught by one of the dancers - so the quality is hit or miss).
As far as turning the card room into an internet cafe - the M class ships already have an internet cafe.
Good luck with your letter writing campaign - it has worked before when Celebrity wanted to start charging the for the T-pool on the M class ships.

Dandylyon
September 12th, 2006, 10:02 AM
We have this problem solved. On our last three cruises (and at least our next two) we have just gone as a foursome and have our own bridge game wherever we like. Usually in the Rendesvouz lounge or the Sky Bar. Helps kill time waiting in airports, too.

Nice if you have a foursome.

Sky Sweet
September 12th, 2006, 11:51 AM
Does anyone know when this change will go into effect? It is my understanding that programming/activities for specific cruises are planned a while in advance, so I am assuming that the Bridge program will still be in place for at least the next few months.

SusieV
September 13th, 2006, 08:41 PM
Ladysail- I do know him! I'm sure he'd recognize the Korbels :)

Maybe I'll see you at a tournament sometime if you give them another try. If not, maybe on a cruise :)

Sky Sweet
September 14th, 2006, 11:42 AM
There is no comparison between duplicate bridge and kitchen (party) bridge.

Even though they are very different, I also enjoy party bridge with Chicago scoring, when everyone changes partners at the end of a four hand round and individual scores are ranked after all rounds have been played.

My only complaint about party bridge is that some people think it okay for them to go back and change their bid or play a different card whenever they make a mistake. I have no problem if we are with friends who are just learning how to play bridge and want to practice, with us, but I find it very frustrating when it is done by people who have been playing bridge for over twenty years.

princess pasta
September 14th, 2006, 04:47 PM
Hi Bridge players! I happened on your conversation re: eliminating the game on Celebrity. While I don't play bridge myself, my travel companion does and he looks forward to the chance to both improve his game and meet other like minded people. So, for all of your sakes, and your continued pleasure at sea, I do hope that the Bridge opp. will continue. If not, I know your resourcefulness will find a way... Good Luck!!

Marge Barge 2006
September 15th, 2006, 09:06 AM
I found out from our Bridge Director on my last cruise that it was Michael Thomas' decision in the Miami office. He is the one responsible for making the decisions to eliminate "free" activities. No surprise.

Sky Sweet
September 15th, 2006, 10:16 AM
I found out from our Bridge Director on my last cruise that it was Michael Thomas' decision in the Miami office. He is the one responsible for making the decisions to eliminate "free" activities. No surprise.

Marge, Does this mean that if a passenger aboard a Celebrity Ship doesn't want to just sit by the pool or in a lounge, they will have to pay extra for whatever they do during the day?

theduffys
September 15th, 2006, 11:01 AM
DH and I are cruising with Celebrity for the first time in Dec. to Hawaii. We booked this trip over a year ago and thought that we were upgrading from HAL and Norwegian. We are paying a premium price and expected to recieve a primium product. Many posts here have us concerned that we have simply "overpaid" for a "middle line product". Now we find out that we may not have the opportunity to play directed duplicate bridge on a cruise with 8 sea days. That would be a terrible disappointment. We are becoming more and more sorry that we made this cruise choice. We will go with a positive attitude and will enjoy ourselves but the lack of bridge will definetly put a hole in our days. I would be very happy to write a letter or send an e-mail if someone will tell me the appropriate person and address to contact.

Sky Sweet
September 15th, 2006, 01:20 PM
Just a thought...but if Bridge is no longer being offered by Celebrity as an organized activity, it might be a good idea for Bridge Players who want to play during sea days to start a thread before their cruise to discuss a time and place where they can meet other Bridge Players for a game.

CAKER
September 15th, 2006, 01:50 PM
I've offered to do it for 10/17/06 Millennium Venice to Barcelona. Just email me with your cabin number so we can make arrangements on board.

jlzalles@msn.com

We're in cabin 9131.

David Zalles

cohengm
September 15th, 2006, 08:58 PM
This has been an interesting thread. You can easily see that many don't quite understand that duplicate bridge and "pick-up" party bridge are really very different games. I played bridge many years ago during lunch time. While on a 14 day Caribbean cruise three years ago I saw something called Duplicate Bridge on the daily schedule and said, "Hey, why not, who'll know me when the cruise is over." Well, anyway, I became addicted. A year later on the identical cruise I teamed up with a partner and established a friendship where her and her husband who afterwards traveled 1,500 miles to visit with us. I joined the oldest bridge club in North America www.hartfordbridgeclub.org almost two years ago and for those that think bridge is dying out, our club has doubled it's membership to well over 400 in the last 10 years. One of the selling points in our Hawaii cruise was the 8 sea days with 8 bridge games. Going back to the main topic, since I've never traveled on a Celebrity cruise of less than 13 days (I've only been on four Celebrity cruises), did Celebrity offer Dup Bridge on cruises with very few sea days?

poetic license
September 16th, 2006, 12:36 AM
Bridge isn't being eliminated entirely: It will still be offered on Transatlantic and Transcanal voyages. Perhaps on the longer cruises as well?

I would think that any cruise with 4 or more sea days would still have it. But who really knows.

Sky Sweet
September 16th, 2006, 11:49 AM
This has been an interesting thread. You can easily see that many don't quite understand that duplicate bridge and "pick-up" party bridge are really very different games. I played bridge many years ago during lunch time. While on a 14 day Caribbean cruise three years ago I saw something called Duplicate Bridge on the daily schedule and said, "Hey, why not, who'll know me when the cruise is over." Well, anyway, I became addicted. A year later on the identical cruise I teamed up with a partner and established a friendship where her and her husband who afterwards traveled 1,500 miles to visit with us. I joined the oldest bridge club in North America www.hartfordbridgeclub.org (http://www.hartfordbridgeclub.org) almost two years ago and for those that think bridge is dying out, our club has doubled it's membership to well over 400 in the last 10 years. One of the selling points in our Hawaii cruise was the 8 sea days with 8 bridge games. Going back to the main topic, since I've never traveled on a Celebrity cruise of less than 13 days (I've only been on four Celebrity cruises), did Celebrity offer Dup Bridge on cruises with very few sea days?

Hi Cohengm :)

Thank you for posting the link about the Hartford Bridge Club. Do you know if there is a similar club in Southern Connecticut?

I did a double take when I saw your post because I have a cousin named Cohen who is a surgeon at Hartford Hospital :)

slgjhg
September 16th, 2006, 01:23 PM
Hi again guys,

My wife and I started this thread. I want to say how exciting it is to see that nearly 1,500 people have read it so far and so many of you have made such thoughtful posts. I can covfirm that members of the ACBL do earn Masterpoints on cruise ships when a Certified Director runs the game.

I do want to mention that while it is true that informal [and likely much smaller] games may continue in the absence of a Director, the lessons will not. I think these lessons are equally important as the games in the enjoyment of the experience. The lessons give those who never played or "olayed in college years ago" to discover or remember the fascination of this wonderful game. Whoever you are, your game can always improve.

It is a sad truth that the game is played mostly by older players in the United States, but that worldwide younger players are flocking to the tables. I pray that we Americans will get on the bandwagon. Cruise ships are a great place to meet people from other nations. Bridge bidding systems, in particular, vary over the world. I find the crise ships a marvelous place to catch up on how other nations appuoach the game.

As to age, look around your cruise ship. The majority of the passengers on Celebrity are of the age that plays briddge, even the Americans. Don't know if they are trying to run us off or not.

Finally a word on the "compensation" of Bridge Directors. The experience is "cash flow negative" for us. We pay a cruise agent a daily fee to go on these cruises. The line furnishes us with a canin, meals, etc, but we receive no fee, nor are we allowed to accept tips. So, while we enjoy cruising for less than the paying passenger, we are not making money. Hopefully, the passengers agree our services are worthwhile.

Thanks again to all of you for caring about this. If you want to keep bridge on these ships, it is vitally important that you not only let Celebrity know how you feel, but the other lines as well. This could be the first domino falling. When you fill out your evaluation forms at the end of the cruise, mention the bBridge experience and what it [or its absence] meant to you. The lines do [and should] listen to theit passengers. So speak up and loudly!

Thanks to all of you for your interest and for caring.

Jay

Sky Sweet
September 16th, 2006, 03:07 PM
Hi again guys,

My wife and I started this thread. I want to say how exciting it is to see that nearly 1,500 people have read it so far and so many of you have made such thoughtful posts. I can covfirm that members of the ACBL do earn Masterpoints on cruise ships when a Certified Director runs the game.

I do want to mention that while it is true that informal [and likely much smaller] games may continue in the absence of a Director, the lessons will not. I think these lessons are equally important as the games in the enjoyment of the experience. The lessons give those who never played or "olayed in college years ago" to discover or remember the fascination of this wonderful game. Whoever you are, your game can always improve.

It is a sad truth that the game is played mostly by older players in the United States, but that worldwide younger players are flocking to the tables. I pray that we Americans will get on the bandwagon. Cruise ships are a great place to meet people from other nations. Bridge bidding systems, in particular, vary over the world. I find the crise ships a marvelous place to catch up on how other nations appuoach the game.

As to age, look around your cruise ship. The majority of the passengers on Celebrity are of the age that plays briddge, even the Americans. Don't know if they are trying to run us off or not.

Finally a word on the "compensation" of Bridge Directors. The experience is "cash flow negative" for us. We pay a cruise agent a daily fee to go on these cruises. The line furnishes us with a canin, meals, etc, but we receive no fee, nor are we allowed to accept tips. So, while we enjoy cruising for less than the paying passenger, we are not making money. Hopefully, the passengers agree our services are worthwhile.

Thanks again to all of you for caring about this. If you want to keep bridge on these ships, it is vitally important that you not only let Celebrity know how you feel, but the other lines as well. This could be the first domino falling. When you fill out your evaluation forms at the end of the cruise, mention the bBridge experience and what it [or its absence] meant to you. The lines do [and should] listen to theit passengers. So speak up and loudly!

Thanks to all of you for your interest and for caring.

Jay

Hi Jay :)

I agree with you about the Bridge Lessons. Another advantage is learning how some bridge conventions have evolved over the years. For example, I originally learned that you need to have four cards in both unbid suits to use the negative double, but the Bridge Instructor on our most recent cruise taught us that it only needs to be in the unbid major.

babylene
September 16th, 2006, 03:36 PM
The way we play, after interference, in order to bid at the two level, you must have BOTH at least a five card suit and 10 or more points. If you have only one (or neither), you double.

theduffys
September 16th, 2006, 04:47 PM
I'm still waiting for someone to tell us who to write or e-mail concerning our disappointment over this "passenger unfriendly" decision.

CAKER
September 16th, 2006, 09:50 PM
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DAN HANRAHAN, COO
CELEBRITY CRUISES
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Try registered or certified mail if you think it wil improve your chances of him reading it, or replying.

If all else fails, make sure to record your displeasure on the CRUISE EVALUATION OR COMMENTS CARDS. THEY READ THOSE !!!

shipshape sam
September 17th, 2006, 08:41 AM
Not clear what the fuss is. I have played in a number of games with others without Celebritie's involvement. I do realize it is much easier to assemble a lot of players with Celebrity creating the focus.

To cancel bridge seems very short sighted. I wonder what cost savings they think they will realize?

C2C - What is a Celebrity Commodore? I have sailed twice now on Celebrity and plan to sail 1-2 times in 2007.

Sky Sweet
September 19th, 2006, 10:20 AM
I sent a letter to Celebrity about this issue and received the following response from Robert Vazquez, Cruise Activities & X-Club Youth Program:

"Thank you for your feedback. I'm glad that you have had such great experiences in the past with Celebrity. We can appreciate your concern over the potential loss of the Bridge program on future Celebrity cruises. It might comfort you to know that we have not completely eliminated the Bridge Program. Instead, we have decided to utilize the maximum playing time on cruises with many sea days, such as Transatlantic, Transcanal and the Hawaii cruises. Those are the cruises in which you will continue to find Bridge Directors for 2007.

With or without a Bridge Director, we trust you will thoroughly enjoy your next Celebrity Cruise".

theduffys
September 19th, 2006, 11:05 AM
Thanks so much Sky. At least I now know that, on my Hawaii cruise, DH and I can still enjoy one of our favorite sea days activities.:D Still, until all the other mainstream lines follow this path (and history has shown they will eventually), we will probably begin cruise searches by looking at those that still offer the directed games on the shorter itineraries.

CAKER
September 19th, 2006, 01:03 PM
I find it interesting, and annoying, that Mr. Vasquez did not have the intelligence to "molify" us even a little by indicating to what extent they would accommodate bridge players (absent lessons) to at least organize bridge games, provide playing areas, duplicate boards, cards, and scoresheets. I don't think that would be too much to ask if you are really interested in having happy cruisers !!!

Sky Sweet
September 20th, 2006, 11:48 PM
I sent a letter to Celebrity about this issue and received the following response from Robert Vazquez, Cruise Activities & X-Club Youth Program:

"Thank you for your feedback. I'm glad that you have had such great experiences in the past with Celebrity. We can appreciate your concern over the potential loss of the Bridge program on future Celebrity cruises. It might comfort you to know that we have not completely eliminated the Bridge Program. Instead, we have decided to utilize the maximum playing time on cruises with many sea days, such as Transatlantic, Transcanal and the Hawaii cruises. Those are the cruises in which you will continue to find Bridge Directors for 2007.

With or without a Bridge Director, we trust you will thoroughly enjoy your next Celebrity Cruise".



I think this is another example of Celebrity trying to be all things to all people. It appears they are trying to attract a younger crowd on their cruises that are less than two weeks, and will probably substitute Bridge with something that they think will appeal to a younger demographic. Unfortunately, they are overlooking the fact that there are many people who love their career and have no desire to retire when they are old enough to do so. These older passengers, who are still in the work force, are usually not in a position to take multiple long cruises during a year, and will start looking to other cruise lines if they feel that Celebrity's 7 to 10 day cruises are no longer appropriate for them.

sal7202
September 21st, 2006, 09:29 AM
I don't think that would be too much to ask if you are really interested in having happy cruisers

I haven't seen any emperical evidence that would remotely suggest that Celebrity is interested in happy cruiers. While it may be viewed as short sighted by reasonable folks, Celebrity is interested in profits and the cruisers be damned!

slgjhg
September 22nd, 2006, 12:01 AM
Hi all,

If you play on the ships just don't foregive that teaching and play are not provided. Points are important, and many peolple get their points on cruises. I know from other boards, that many players accumulate their points while on
cruises.

Good Luck to you all.

Regards,

Shannon

cruiser2004
September 22nd, 2006, 12:18 PM
Jay,

Thank you for starting this thread. We have enjoyed bridge and bridge lessons on many cruises on various cruise lines. We were on the May 7 Summit and the bridge activity was a great relief from the stress of the over all cruise experience, and gave us something interesting to do during our two periods of three sea days in a row. I really doubt that other lines will join Celebrity's lead in this cost cutting move at the expense of passenger enjoyment. I wish all of you the best of luck in trying to get Celebrity's attention on this matter.

newmexicoNita
September 22nd, 2006, 01:21 PM
Nice if you have a foursome.
I was thinking the same thing: we will be on HAL in November and as I said in my posting a few minutes ago: DH doesn't really play but the couple we will be cruising with do. NMnita

CAKER
September 28th, 2006, 10:52 AM
I just received a response from Celebrity to my 9/9/06 e-mail.

"We read with great interest your feedback regarding Bridge play. Please be advised that the official policy is only on Trans-Atlantic, Trans-Canal, and Hawaii cruises (i.e. multi sea days). We have taken the liberty of forwarding your e-mail to the appropriate management personnel for review and future consideration. Thank you for choosing Celebrity Cruises."

Deborah Chau
Customer Service Representative

I HOPE YOU WILL SEND YOUR OWN E-MAILS.

HOPEFULLY THEY WILL AT LEAST PROVIDE TABLES, CARDS, AND DUPLICATE BOARDS (AND SCORING SHEETS)(WHICH THEY ALREADY OWN), AND ARRANGE SET TIMES FOR BRIDGE PLAYING AS A GROUP. I CAN LIVE WITH A COMPROMISE WITHOUT BRIDGE INSTRUCTORS.

Sky Sweet
September 28th, 2006, 11:05 AM
Hi CAKER :)

Thank you for sharing your response from Celebrity. In my response from Celebrity, posted above, I got the impression that this new policy won't be implemented until 2007. Since my husband and I will be on a cruise in November of this year, I am assuming the current bridge program will still be in place at that time. If so, I will ask if anyone in the morning bridge class or afternoon game is interested in signing a petition about this issue.

babylene
September 28th, 2006, 12:25 PM
Caker, would you please post the e-mail address? Thanks.

cruiser2004
September 28th, 2006, 01:22 PM
I don't think that would be too much to ask if you are really interested in having happy cruisers

I haven't seen any emperical evidence that would remotely suggest that Celebrity is interested in happy cruisers. While it may be viewed as short sighted by reasonable folks, Celebrity is interested in profits and the cruisers be damned!

Sal7202, I think you summed in two sentences what it has taken many threads to say.
In MHO noting the bridge cancellation on the infamous "Attention To Detail" cards will not do any good, because no matter what Celebrity says, I personally, do not believe anyone is reading all of those cards. If you were faced with 2,000 "Attention To Deatail" cards and lets say you could read and take notes on ten per minute it would a a little over 33 hours of constant reading. If all cards were read that would mean Celebrity has one full time person for each of their ships doing nothing but reading "Attention To Detail Cards". I do wish all of you luck in your efforts to save bridge instruction and duplicate games on board all Celebrity ships.

newmexicoNita
September 28th, 2006, 06:00 PM
I have a feeling they read them either at random or about every 4th or 5th one. I do know they read some, same as they all check CC periodically. NMNita

CAKER
September 29th, 2006, 12:03 AM
I sent my e-mail to, and got the response from,

web_reservations_cci@celebritycruises.com

Also, sent copied it to info@celebritycruises.com

slgjhg
October 3rd, 2006, 11:33 AM
Hi again guys,

Here is a post from another message board. It speaks pretty directly to the issue of when the policy starts - started alteady. Is the card room still there? - No. What took its place? - a computer room. Where is there to play? - "a smoky cigar bar and no bridge facilities were available in the evening"

Again, I encourage you to be as vocal as possible about your feelings on this with X and other lines.

The number who have read our thread is now over 2,000. Please keep it going and thanks for your continued interest and caring.

Jay

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Bridge Cruises

Wednesday, August 9th, 2006 by Administrator

We welcome you to post your constructive comments about Bridge cruises. Please see our reference of Bridge cruise ships.

On April 2006, bridge players GLH and JAH cruised on Celebrity’s Mercury, looking forward to playing bridge as seen on Celebrity’s website virtual tour. Unfortunately, when they got aboard, they were surprised to find the beautiful card room was converted to a computer room. As an alternative, bridge players were directed to Michael’s Lounge - a smoky cigar bar and no bridge facilities were available in the evening. See comments On a more cheery note, see their great feedback on an earlier cruise on the Celebrity Zenity

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CAKER
October 5th, 2006, 07:45 PM
I just received the following response to my 10/2 e-mail (suprisingly quickly):

" Celebrity offers Bridge Instructors on voyages of 10 DAYS OR LONGER WITH 3 SEA DAYS OR MORE. Celebrity Cruises with 2 or LESS sea days are more port intensive, and our guest's interest in the Bridge program is mainly on the days at sea."

Therefore, Bridge is on the Baltic Capitals/St. Pete cruise (3 sea days), but not on the Mediterrannean cruise(2 sea days), even though both are 12-nights.

Sky Sweet
October 5th, 2006, 08:27 PM
I just received the following response to my 10/2 e-mail (suprisingly quickly):

" Celebrity offers Bridge Instructors on voyages of 10 DAYS OR LONGER WITH 3 SEA DAYS OR MORE. Celebrity Cruises with 2 or LESS sea days are more port intensive, and our guest's interest in the Bridge program is mainly on the days at sea."

Therefore, Bridge is on the Baltic Capitals/St. Pete cruise (3 sea days), but not on the Mediterranean cruise(2 sea days), even though both are 12-nights.

Hi Caker :)

Thank you for sharing your response from Celebrity. Maybe we will take another Baltic Cruise instead of a Mediterranean one :)

slgjhg
October 7th, 2006, 05:00 PM
A question, please?

If I understand the new policy is to have Bridge Directors on cruises of 10 days or more that have 3 or more sea days? If, as my information suggests, the card rooms have been removed on at least some of the ships, does this mean that only certain ships will do the 10+3 itineraries, or does it mean that bridge players will camp out?

Jay

babylene
October 7th, 2006, 11:41 PM
On some of our Celebrity cruises, bridge has already been "shortchanged", even with a director. On the Mercury, over a year ago, we used part of the Michael's pub. Our director had to keep fighting with staff to furnish us with enough seats and tables.

On another cruise (I think it was the Galaxy), we had to play in the Stratosphere Lounge, while Bingo or some other "verbal" game was taking place.

So, even with bridge director, it appears that Celebrity does not have a very high regard for duplicate bridge. I doubt that the entertainment staff have an appreciation of the game!

Sky Sweet
October 8th, 2006, 12:14 AM
On some of our Celebrity cruises, bridge has already been "shortchanged", even with a director. On the Mercury, over a year ago, we used part of the Michael's pub. Our director had to keep fighting with staff to furnish us with enough seats and tables.

On another cruise (I think it was the Galaxy), we had to play in the Stratosphere Lounge, while Bingo or some other "verbal" game was taking place.

So, even with bridge director, it appears that Celebrity does not have a very high regard for duplicate bridge. I doubt that the entertainment staff have an appreciation of the game!

Hi Babylene :)

We experienced the same situation on our January/February 2005 Mercury Cruise.

BCHappyGal
October 8th, 2006, 09:56 AM
I am very sorry and will be disappointed if the next time I sail X there is no bridge. I enjoy the afternoon bridge game on all sea days.
The lack of organized bridge on our Carnival cruise in the Mediterranean last month was 1 of my complaints. And another reason in my mind to go back to X.

As three are only 2 of us to play we need the organized afternoon bridge in order to find anther couple to play with.

So X please don't take any of my reasons away - that is reasons why I should be loyal to you.