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bsa250cc
September 11th, 2006, 12:03 PM
Hi Everyone,

I have been asked to copy my reply from the 700 thread, as it contains important information for anyone going on the Zuiderdam on the 2nd December.

Here we go.


Hi everyone,

Were also booked on this cruise, and as we have also booked our air fare from the UK we are in a more difficult predicament than most.

Our air is non refundable or changeable so we have no choice in this matter. The other ships leaving on the 2nd December from either FLL or Miami are either Carnival RCI or Princess ??. As UK citizens we are barred from booking this line with a US TA, as they control the sale of bookings in the UK and ramp up the prices accordingly. Carnival would only be jumping from the frying pan into the fire, and the Behemoths of RCI have no appeal whatsoever.

So - what do we do??

I have phoned the Alumni Travel Group as they are the arrangers for this particular package. The arranger for this package is Denise, and she was quite informative about the group.

Firstly age - This is aimed at ages 28up. The age profile sits well in the HAL scenario.

Secondly Numbers - HAL has sold them the deal with an availability of up to 700. THE TOTAL BOOKINGS RECEIVED TO DATE IS LESS THAN FIFTY

She also went on to say these were in the main professional people who are too busy to find their partners in the normal course of the day.

If you look on any of the online TA's you can still find remarkable bargains, and pretty well have whatever choice of deck and cabin arrangement to suit. Our $900 suites are still being sold, and the availability has increased somewhat as their are now more specific cabins available rather than gaurantee's.

My first instinct was to look elsewhere as although I,m just a spring chicken in HAL terms(51), tribes of drunken yobs holds no appeal. The alternatives for us are no alternative, so thats when a little investigation was deemed necessary. If HAL cannot fill the ship themselves over the next ten weeks I really cannot see the Alumni group making a huge impact on the numbers on board, and of those who book, will they be shacking up with a complete stranger, or have a cabin to themselves as single occupants. If I were going on a singles cruise the last thing I would want is to bring a new partner back to the cabin and see my "roomie" treating his boils. This would defeat the object of a "Singles Cruise".

So, we are going to stick to our plans, make our own arrangements at all the ports of call, and enjoy ourselves regardless. You never know I might just be able to loose my dear wife on the formal nights for an hour or so and get a fair maiden interested in whats under my kilt....LOL

Life is what you make it at the end of the day.

Bob & Dee

vpoopsy
September 11th, 2006, 12:08 PM
Thanks again. See you on the cruise!!:D

berylde
September 11th, 2006, 12:14 PM
Bob/Dee
You are so smart--now why didn't I think of that??

I just called-talked to a "Debbie". According to her-there are 51 signed up and no one under 30--out of the 5 colleges.

Time to rethink my decision!

bsa250cc
September 11th, 2006, 12:22 PM
Beryl,

The girls name may well have been Debbie. The line under the Atlantic was'nt the best I ever had, but at least we have confirmation about numbers.

Hope you join us.

Bob & Dee

Krazy Kruizers
September 11th, 2006, 12:24 PM
Thanks for the update and making things clear.

vpoopsy
September 11th, 2006, 12:29 PM
Berylde,

Glad you saw this post before you changed the cruise. Hate for you to go through all the hassle for nothing.

Actually, my TA booked us with a "group" to get a better rate and some freebies. Heck, we might be part of the 51!!!

bruce-r
September 11th, 2006, 11:20 PM
Thanks for taking the time to post a follow up.

bsa250cc
September 12th, 2006, 10:46 AM
Hi Everyone,
For those travelling on this cruise, I have added a new post on the roll call board. Please read and respond.

Thanks

Bob & Dee

MattOsprey
September 12th, 2006, 11:10 AM
If they have all this extra space now. Can you imagine the offers as the cruise gets nearer!
Could be a great last minute cruise for some.
I know we are coming to the US for Volendam in 6 weeks but if it went crazy we would consider this.

kryos
September 12th, 2006, 05:07 PM
If they have all this extra space now. Can you imagine the offers as the cruise gets nearer!
Could be a great last minute cruise for some.
I know we are coming to the US for Volendam in 6 weeks but if it went crazy we would consider this.
I don't see mention of when this cruise is going ... but I would suggest not getting too excited about low bookings just yet. It could be the group has not yet done their major marketing push to get people booked for this sailing. A major mailing/promotion could jump those 70 bookings up to 700 in a heartbeat if the price is right.

I would stay on top of it ... develop a good rapport with this group leader, and see just how heavy this group's bookings are closer to sail date.

Of course, there is little at that point you can do ... even if this group eventually gets up past 1000 members ... but at least you'll know what you're likely walking into when you board the ship.

Blue skies ...

--rita

hammybee
September 12th, 2006, 05:18 PM
I don't see mention of when this cruise is going ... but I would suggest not getting too excited about low bookings just yet. It could be the group has not yet done their major marketing push to get people booked for this sailing. A major mailing/promotion could jump those 70 bookings up to 700 in a heartbeat if the price is right. Blue skies ...--rita

If this were my cruise, I would hope that the Alumni could sell the reserved cabins to their own. These a responsible and professonal adults, not college kids on spring break. The alternative is that HAL may need to steeply dicount the cruise and sell to people that may not fully appreciate the the HAL difference.

bsa250cc
November 27th, 2006, 04:57 AM
Hi Everyone,

Just thought I would add a postscript to this thread. The final numbers are now in, and the total for the singles group is 60. This includes 22 from A&M and the remainder from 3 other establishments. So as I said at he beginning, a little investigation is always worthwhile.:o

P.S. What is A&M ?? Coming from the UK I am not aware of the meaning?

Best Wishes

Bob & Dee:)

michmike
November 27th, 2006, 06:19 AM
A & M stands for Agricultural and Mechanical. The best known A&M college in the states is Texas A & M, where the students and alumni are referred to as "aggies" because of the agricultural focus. I think there are other A & M colleges in the US but certainly Texas is the best known of the group.

bsa250cc
November 27th, 2006, 10:16 AM
Michmike,

Thanks for enlightening me. I'm not sure if I'd like to be called an "aggie" LOL.

Bob