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iceman93
December 13th, 2006, 01:56 AM
At the Mariner reception on my most recent cruise, the captain opened the floor to questions. One that came up was what Mariner has the most days on HAL. The captain didn't know specifically, but did say he was aware of a lady who had over FIVE THOUSAND days on HAL ships. Needless to say, this is more than most people who WORK on HAL ships!

Does anyone know who this person is? And, given the possibility that the 5000+ days is an urban legend, who here at CruiseCritic has the most HAL days?

Sea King
December 13th, 2006, 07:59 AM
5,000 days!!!!!!!!!!!!!:eek:

that's 13.698 years:eek:

that probably includes 10+ world cruises

wonder if the Mariner Society gives a "solid gold, diamond and ruby" medallion at that level;)

in any event, I need just another 39.9 years and we'll be even!!!:cool:

by the way, can you imagine having had 5,000, breakfasts, lunches, dinners and midnight buffets on board:)

RevNeal
December 13th, 2006, 08:34 AM
How many days did Kissing Annie have??? RuthC, do you know?

While 5000 days may seem like something of an Urban Legend, it's not beyond the realms of possibility. On my Panama Canal cruise in 2004 one of the ladies aboard the Zaandam was recognized at the Mariner's Reception for having just passed 1700 days. That was a 21 day cruise, and she had been aboard for the two Alaska Cruises just prior to ours and was scheduled to be aboard for two more 10-day Caribbean Cruises that were following our Panama Canal Cruise (55 days, total). I remember asking her how many days she averaged in a year and she said that, on HAL, she usually cruised between 100 and 150 days a year, but that 2004 was a special year because she had also done the World Cruise earlier that year and was booked for 20 more days in December aboard the Veendam.

by the way, can you imagine having had 5,000, breakfasts, lunches, dinners and midnight buffets on board:)

No ... it would take a fork-lift to get me off the ship. :) I would look like Jabba the Hutt.

2bout2c
December 13th, 2006, 09:53 AM
I don't think Kissing Annie had that many on Holland America. She traveled on Cunard, and Princess also before switching to Holland. I would guess it's Dolly.

TedC
December 13th, 2006, 10:28 AM
We were at a Mariner Party a few years ago and one couple had 2,500 days on HAL - that's almost seven years - and they were both mobile.

RuthC
December 13th, 2006, 01:03 PM
Sorry, Greg, I don't know how many HAL days Kissin'
Annie had. :o

But I do agree with 2bout2c that it's probably Dolly Smith with the >5000 days. When she was my roomie in '03 she had well over 3000 days. Since then she's had ample opportunity to hit the 5000-day mark. I know she did the World Cruise at least once since then, and I believe she did that lengthy Circle Pacific a year or two ago.

She's no Urban Legend. She's my cruising hero! :D

kakalina
December 13th, 2006, 01:14 PM
There are two lovely ladies that this would fit. One is known as Mama Lou and the other is known as Dolly. They are both wonderful ladies and it has been my pleasure to get to know them and they both claim to have over 5000 days on boards HAL ships. I know they are both members of the Presidents Club.

Krazy Kruizers
December 13th, 2006, 01:16 PM
Wow - that is a lot of days.

Krazy Kruizers
December 13th, 2006, 01:16 PM
Don't know the answer to your question.

We had a couple on one of our cruises who had over 1500 days.

jhannah
December 13th, 2006, 01:24 PM
I thought of Mama Lou, too. Someone said they thought she had passed away. Does anyone know for sure? Last time I saw her was on the Zaandam almost 2 years ago.

LizB1
December 13th, 2006, 02:09 PM
It could be either Dolly or the couple from St.Louis that we sat with at the Captain's Table in '05 on the Maasdam. They had gone on over 20 World Cruises and are still sailing. Or he might have been referring to Hansi Bratt who died a few years back as she practically lived on the ships - including the WC.

I do know it wasn't Kissin' Annie although she had a lot of days on HAL.

I agree with RuthC that Dolly is a "gem".

bepsf
December 13th, 2006, 02:19 PM
Dolly Smith - Is she among the ladies who book the World Cruise every year and never get off the ship?

I understand that there's a group of ladies who book every year and all they do is sit in the Explorers Lounge every day knitting scarves, mittens, hats, etc. out of wool provided by HAL and given to the children of an orphanage in one of the port cities...

ODECCIT
December 13th, 2006, 02:28 PM
I thought of Mama Lou, too. Someone said they thought she had passed away. Does anyone know for sure? Last time I saw her was on the Zaandam almost 2 years ago.


She was on our Volendam cruise 11/23-12/03 just few weeks ago. I think she is going to cruise for 6 month on her.

AWED23
December 13th, 2006, 02:29 PM
Dolly Smith - Is she among the ladies who book the World Cruise every year and never get off the ship?

I understand that there's a group of ladies who book every year and all they do is sit in the Explorers Lounge every day knitting scarves, mittens, hats, etc. out of wool provided by HAL and given to the children of an orphanage in one of the port cities...:cool: Thanks Brian, you have given me the perfect excuse to book a world cruise...My wife is a knitter and would/will enjoy meeting that group while I go about my rounds.:rolleyes:

RuthC
December 13th, 2006, 02:30 PM
I doubt it very much, Brian. Dolly isn't the "sit at home knitting" type. She's up and at 'em, and off to see the world. She has (had?) a video camera and takes lots of pictures. Then she brings those tapes back home and shares them with guests at nursing homes.

AWED23
December 13th, 2006, 02:30 PM
Dolly Smith - Is she among the ladies who book the World Cruise every year and never get off the ship?

I understand that there's a group of ladies who book every year and all they do is sit in the Explorers Lounge every day knitting scarves, mittens, hats, etc. out of wool provided by HAL and given to the children of an orphanage in one of the port cities...:cool: Thanks Brian, you have given me the perfect excuse to book a world cruise...My wife is a knitter and would/will enjoy meeting that group while I go about my rounds.:rolleyes:

kakalina
December 13th, 2006, 03:47 PM
I thought of Mama Lou, too. Someone said they thought she had passed away. Does anyone know for sure? Last time I saw her was on the Zaandam almost 2 years ago.

Jim: Mama Lou was on the Zaandam with us earlier this month. She said she was going on the Volendam for awhile and then returning to her beloved Zaandam.

She is so funny. Did you know she has at least one of almost every type of uniform worn on the ship in her size? She wears them all the time along with an official HAL name tag with either Mama Lou or Captain Mama on it. She even was kind enough to give me one of those cool fish shirts the Lido guys wear on the hot weather cruises. She is a hoot, no doubt about that.

ANSalberg
December 13th, 2006, 04:12 PM
Re; "Kissing Annie" -I thought she was a real character, but sometimes it was scary having her on board. On the 2002 I believe -Pacific Rim cruise we found her in her "dog-ear" hat wandering around Cairns Australia, LOST! For all the fuss made over her onboard the ship -we wondered "How on EARTH anyone could watch her go ashore ON HER OWN without tagging along -or encouraging someone to go along" We found her bewildered as to where the ship was or how to get back -"Could you just TELL me how to get back" We said -No- we were on our way back anyway- we'd just walk along with her -which we did. It upset me for quite some time that she was ENTIRELY ALONE that day. I believe she died 2 years later in Europe ON [or being TAKEN off] the Rotterdam.
Certainly it isn't HAL's responsibility to "baby-sit" these oldsters - but we felt this was a disaster looking for a place to happen. NO CHILD would be allowed that kind of freedom - It was fortunate we knew WHO she was and what she needed to do to get back to the ship -AND fortunately it was still daylight........This incident was anything BUT amusing. It was dangerous!
Anne

sail7seas
December 13th, 2006, 04:51 PM
My first thought when I heard Kissing Annie had passed away was that she died doing what she loved so much......cruising HAL. There was a certain justice and peace to that IMO

I'm happy she got her 'final cruise'.........

Copper10-8
December 13th, 2006, 05:40 PM
Man, you gotta love those ladies you all are mentioning! Have heard about some of them onboard from crew but never had the pleasure to sail with them

Love Cruises
December 13th, 2006, 06:20 PM
I have also had the pleasure of meeting Dolly and she is a lovely women... very vivacious. No "airs" about her ... real down-home.

Last year when we were on the msSTATENDAM, people told us she had just gotten off the day we got on. I would love to meet her again. Hopefully, one day soon!

RevNeal
December 13th, 2006, 06:29 PM
I adore Mama Lou. I met her in 2004.
I hope to meet Dolly some day.

Yeah ... now that you mention it I remember Annie saying that she had far more days on Cunard. I miss her. But ... she's on that GREAT cruise that never ends, and on which every day earned is as a thousand years of chocolate buffets. :D

Vic The Parrot
December 13th, 2006, 07:03 PM
It's too bad that the total number of days doesn't really mean anything.

Krazy Kruizers
December 13th, 2006, 07:08 PM
You got that right there Vic!!

kryos
December 13th, 2006, 07:16 PM
She is so funny. Did you know she has at least one of almost every type of uniform worn on the ship in her size?
I heard that on the World Cruises they do something neat in the way of a passenger activity. Passengers can sign up to be "crew for a day." I doubt they actually work all day, but they get to play the role of their favorite crew position. They get a uniform for the job, and can even opt to sleep in crew quarters for the one night. The CD on my Zuiderdam cruise was telling me about it ... said that unfortunately that sort of thing will only work on the World Cruise due to the number of passengers that could be interested in participating on a shorter one.

Sounds like a neat thing, though. Wonder if that's where she got all her uniforms?

Blue skies ...

--rita

kryos
December 13th, 2006, 07:19 PM
It's too bad that the total number of days doesn't really mean anything.
Wonder if being a member of the "President's Club" gives you any preferential pricing, though? Would seem that it should.

Blue skies ...

--rita

sail7seas
December 13th, 2006, 07:31 PM
It's too bad that the total number of days doesn't really mean anything.

Vic.....

I respectfully disagree. ALL those days are very special IMO. They are all wonderful days spent aboard a "DAM' ship, enjoyed, relished and bearing fabulous memories.

That's priceless!!!!

iceman93
December 13th, 2006, 07:42 PM
Wonder if being a member of the "President's Club" gives you any preferential pricing, though? Would seem that it should.

What is the President's Club?

And how do people afford hundreds of cruise days a year? I guess if one is booking the tiniest inside cabins on the cheapest itineraries then the cost could actually be comparable to what one would simply pay to live a normal life ashore. But could you really handle living in such a tiny space for so long?

Vic The Parrot
December 13th, 2006, 07:49 PM
Vic.....

I respectfully disagree. ALL those days are very special IMO. They are all wonderful days spent aboard a "DAM' ship, enjoyed, relished and bearing fabulous memories.

That's priceless!!!!



I know what you're driving at, but HAL should do a little more for it's faithful clients ... not just pins and medals measured by 'days'. But it's no sense in bringing up this topic again.

Vic The Parrot
December 13th, 2006, 07:52 PM
But could you really handle living in such a tiny space for so long?


It can be done. I can attest to that, as well as some other people I know.

"Home" on board ship is what you make of it.

PRINSENDAM
December 13th, 2006, 08:11 PM
On Seatrade news there is a story about a Carnival passenger that has just completed 100 cruises with them. The second passenger to achieve that milestone.

They say it works out to about one cruise every other month over the past 16 years. Don't know how many days.... at 7 days per cruise that is 700 days.


Stephen

fb0075
December 14th, 2006, 12:27 PM
On the Rotterdam in Nov,they gave Dolly a "blow up" ship--next 1000 days --she gets the CAPTAIN!!
FRANK

bepsf
December 14th, 2006, 06:42 PM
What is the President's Club??

Carnival's version of a Mariner's Society - Their repeat cruiser's "Club".


And how do people afford hundreds of cruise days a year? I guess if one is booking the tiniest inside cabins on the cheapest itineraries then the cost could actually be comparable to what one would simply pay to live a normal life ashore. But could you really handle living in such a tiny space for so long?

Folks who can afford to cruise for weeks or months at a time aren't like you and I in the respect that they don't need to work a 9-5 for their rent and they rarely take the lowest/smallest accomodations as cost isn't a major issue, otherwise they simply wouldn't travel as much.

RuthC
December 14th, 2006, 06:48 PM
Carnival's version of a Mariner's Society - Their repeat cruiser's "Club".
Brian, as I understand it there is also a HAL "President's Club".

It's a very small group of cruisers who have about a gazillion days each on HAL. I'm not sure what (if any) other criteria are needed to be admitted to the club. For all I know it could be by invitation only, too.

bepsf
December 14th, 2006, 06:54 PM
Brian, as I understand it there is also a HAL "President's Club".

It's a very small group of cruisers who have about a gazillion days each on HAL. I'm not sure what (if any) other criteria are needed to be admitted to the club. For all I know it could be by invitation only, too.

That doesn't surprise me in the least - I'm sure they get rather nice additional perks for being "A Friend" of the line...

kryos
December 14th, 2006, 07:05 PM
It can be done. I can attest to that, as well as some other people I know.

"Home" on board ship is what you make of it.
And ... remember ... that tiny cabin is but a small portion of your "home." All of the public areas of the ship become your home too. Thus, you have plenty of room to enjoy your days aboard. The cabin actually would probably only be the place you come back to at the end of the day in order to retire.

Believe me, I could very well get used to living onboard ship ... say when I was old, alone and had no land-based responsibilities. One should be at the point in their life then anyway where they are downsizing ... getting rid of possessions and all those things that take up room in their lives. A tiny cabin for months at a time onboard a beautiful HAL ship should be more than enough room for most people. And, I'm sure HAL must give some good deals for those more or less "permanent" residents ... especially on the cheaper itineraries.

Blue skies ...

--rita

PRINSENDAM
December 14th, 2006, 11:33 PM
That doesn't surprise me in the least - I'm sure they get rather nice additional perks for being "A Friend" of the line...


Brian,

President's Club members must have a minimum of 1400 days... ie a double platinum. It is by invitation only so 1400 days doesn't automatically entitle one to become a member. Extra perks? Nope! :p

Stephen

LizB1
December 15th, 2006, 06:08 AM
Brian,

President's Club members must have a minimum of 1400 days... ie a double platinum. It is by invitation only so 1400 days doesn't automatically entitle one to become a member. Extra perks? Nope! :p

Stephen


Stephen,

This is what I find wrong with the Presiden't Club. You have to have booked thru one particular agency -- I think anyone with 1400 days should be eligible!

PRINSENDAM
December 15th, 2006, 07:41 AM
Stephen,

This is what I find wrong with the Presiden't Club. You have to have booked thru one particular agency -- I think anyone with 1400 days should be eligible!



Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhsh! Don't mention any agency names!;)

But true. In fact the so called "president's Club isn't anything official with HAL but passengers who have over 1400 days and book through this particular agency.

I think it is satisfactory and fair that the highest award with HAL Mariners is the 700 days.

I understand that there are just about 150 Mariners at Platinum level.

Stephen

LizB1
December 15th, 2006, 08:49 AM
Stephen...if it isn't official with HAL then how come members of the President's Club are recognized at Mariner Receptions?? Generally they are on the longer cruises although some do take shorter ones in between.

Have no fear I would NEVER mention the agency name!!

PRINSENDAM
December 15th, 2006, 09:02 AM
Stephen...if it isn't official with HAL then how come members of the President's Club are recognized at Mariner Receptions?? Generally they are on the longer cruises although some do take shorter ones in between.

Have no fear I would NEVER mention the agency name!!



Hmmm.... no idea. I'll find out next month when I'm aboard STATENDAM.

Yes, I agree that they generally take the longer cruise, but I know a few members that make several B2B's on cruises of shorter length.

No fears! :) It is a good agency BTW as I'm sure you know. I've always been impressed by the way they did things. Very professional... as well the should be.

Stephen

sail7seas
December 15th, 2006, 09:39 AM
I still wonder if when TA's book at extremely low fares (particularly those really low fares that were offered in years past ---including free) are credited with Mariner days as though they had paid a 'fair market' price for that cruise.

Or, are they only credited for days when they actually pay something resembling a 'real fare' for their cruise.

If they escort a group, are those days included in Mariner count? Presumably they have traveled free and are 'working'.

sail7seas
December 15th, 2006, 09:41 AM
double.........
sorry.

kryos
December 15th, 2006, 02:39 PM
If they escort a group, are those days included in Mariner count? Presumably they have traveled free and are 'working'.

I would imagine if a TA is escorting a group, she would still be credited for Mariner days for the time onboard. As far as the cruise line is concerned, she's a paying guest. She's only getting the free accommodations because there are sufficient numbers of paying passengers in her group to earn her those free accommodations. If she didn't have enough group members, she wouldn't be sailing free.

Now what I wonder is if HAL allows a TA (or an airline employee) to use "interline" rates (significantly discounted rates for people in the travel/transportation industry on a space available basis), do THOSE days get counted towards Mariner days? Logic would say that they shouldn't ... simply because you traveled very, very cheap.

Blue skies ...

--rita

sail7seas
December 15th, 2006, 03:02 PM
I've asked that question several times through the years but no one has responded, Rita.

PRINSENDAM
December 15th, 2006, 03:14 PM
[quote=kryos

Now what I wonder is if HAL allows a TA (or an airline employee) to use "interline" rates (significantly discounted rates for people in the travel/transportation industry on a space available basis), do THOSE days get counted towards Mariner days? Logic would say that they shouldn't ... simply because you traveled very, very cheap.

Blue skies ...

--rita[/quote]


Oh Rita!

You are waving a big red flag in front of me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad: :eek:

Firstly, airline staff who are allowed a discounted fare when cruising are indeed also allowed the Marine Days. They are passengers, no matter what the fare. Unfair advantage perhaps. :confused:


Now that red flag.... :mad:

Interline rates!!!!!!!!!!!

I wish someone could explain to me why pilots, engineers and cabin crew get to sail on cruise ships at special rates and the people that make THEIR cruise a happy one, like the cabin stewards, waiters etc etc get NOTHING from the airline! If a steward walked up to an airline desk and said that he worked on a cruise ship and asked if he could get a special rate on a flight, they would prpbably call security!

Interline rates. Blah!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry about sounding off. This is one of my pet peeves!:o

Stephen