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mountainhouse
January 18th, 2007, 11:06 AM
I continue to hear folks talk about memory cards like they're expensive. Hopefully, folks can post here when they find good deals. I just saw a 2Gb SD card on Buy.com for $14.95 after rebate.
http://www.buy.com/prod/Kingston_2GB_Secure_Digital_Card_SD/q/loc/101/202743332.html
No excuses not to carry 10-20 Gb on next cruise. :D

vttea
January 18th, 2007, 06:34 PM
That's an excellent price, but I hate to tell you, I bought that same SD card last week at Buy.com (same place) for $9.95 after rebate. It was only a 2- or 3-day sale.

I continue to hear folks talk about memory cards like they're expensive. Hopefully, folks can post here when they find good deals. I just saw a 2Gb SD card on Buy.com for $14.95 after rebate.
http://www.buy.com/prod/Kingston_2GB_Secure_Digital_Card_SD/q/loc/101/202743332.html
No excuses not to carry 10-20 Gb on next cruise. :D

mountainhouse
January 18th, 2007, 07:33 PM
I don't actually use SD cards (just xD and compact flash), but saw the deal and thought it might be helpful to others. If you see the $9.95 again, post it here!

jpgd
January 19th, 2007, 01:08 AM
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I continue to hear folks talk about memory cards like they're expensive. Hopefully, folks can post here when they find good deals. I just saw a 2Gb SD card on Buy.com for $14.95 after rebate.
http://www.buy.com/prod/Kingston_2GB_Secure_Digital_Card_SD/q/loc/101/202743332.html
No excuses not to carry 10-20 Gb on next cruise. :D

mountainhouse
January 19th, 2007, 10:08 AM
I think some of the worst memory card prices are at BEST BUY. I sometimes look at the digital cameras there, and cringe when someone walks up to a sales person and says they need a card. :eek: Though it was a top brand, I saw a 2Gb compact flash card there for $119 the other day.

jerseyjk
January 19th, 2007, 11:27 AM
I've consistently found buy.com to have great deals on SD cards, just keep your eyes open and be patient. 1G or 2G for $10 is likely to come around once a month or so. Make sure you sign up for their daily email. It's only one email a day and has some great deals. CF card deals are a little harder to find.

I have techbargains.com on the RSS feed but you could check the site daily. They have a special on the left side for memory deals. They also have a link to pricegrabber.com that I check before I buy anything tech.

mountainhouse
January 19th, 2007, 03:12 PM
You're ruined my day! I went in to sign-up with Buy.com for the emails, and my past order activity was there. It reminded me of how much I was paying for these cards 9 months ago. :eek:

jerseyjk
January 22nd, 2007, 10:15 AM
You're ruined my day! I went in to sign-up with Buy.com for the emails, and my past order activity was there. It reminded me of how much I was paying for these cards 9 months ago. :eek:

You're not alone. Try this ... I bought a 1G MicroSD card from buy.com two weeks ago for $23 after rebate. It's now $18 with no rebate. Doh!

To keep up with the thread ... for those of you with older cameras (lower resolution) buy.com has a 512M SD free after $27 rebate today.

bymyglass
February 23rd, 2007, 12:18 AM
Fry's 1Gb Sd Card regular price 17.99 on sale often 9.99. the brand is Patriot I have bought 3 of these and they all work just as well as the sandisk I paid like 50.00 for.

dolfansam
March 30th, 2007, 03:07 PM
I think some of the worst memory card prices are at BEST BUY. I sometimes look at the digital cameras there, and cringe when someone walks up to a sales person and says they need a card. :eek: Though it was a top brand, I saw a 2Gb compact flash card there for $119 the other day.

I like to browse on Slickdeals.net and DODtracker.com. I have come up with some great deals on both. I have gotten a 7.2 MP sony camera for $119. I have also gotten 526 MP memory stick x2 for $10. I have also gotten a pair of binoculars with a built in digital camera for $19, just to name a few of the camera deals they have had on there. There are deals on lots of other thing too, but I will stick to the topic on this board.:cool:

pierces
March 31st, 2007, 12:33 PM
The difference between a $29 2GB card and a $52 card is often more than the price. Most of the inexpensive cards are older, slower technology that, while perfectly good, can't keep up with new camera demands like 30 fps video and fast frame rates.

Another issue is simply quality. A flash memory chip is produced like any other solid-state device and the chance of 100% of the millions of little doo-dads coming out perfectly is small. Manufacturers test the chips for "acceptable" numbers of errors and reject anything below their customer's standards. Unless the error count is off the charts, the rejects aren't just thrown away. Let's just say that all customers don't have the same standards and leave it at that. A card with errors may still work very well until its controller tries to write to the bad sector causing a file to be lost, or worse, corrupting the whole card! (Image rescue software will usually recover most of the files on a corrupt card, but what a pain!) If you have a 2gb SD card in your camera and take 5 pictures a week, the controller may never even try to write to a sector that is iffy. Take that same card on a vacation and shoot 800 photos in a week without emptying the card and it's a different story!

Though it's not mentioned too often, flash memory has a limit (a large limit, so don't worry too much) on the number of reads and writes before it "wears out". This results in bad sectors and errors just like on an old hard drive. Even the best cards will eventually suffer from this, so if you begin with more errors on a lower-quality card the time until the card becomes unusable can be shortened considerably.

I'm not saying not to buy inexpensive memory, just be aware of why it might be inexpensive. To me spending $100s on camera equipment (or even $1000s), $1000s more on a wonderful trip and then waffing over a $20 difference in memory to record it seems silly. I remember a catch line that a race car parts manufacturer used to great effect: "Buy the best and only cry once!"

BTW, none of this applies to similar brands at different retailers. As I write this, Best Buy online has a fast 4gb Sandisk Extreme III CF card for $116 while Costco has the same card for $79. I somehow doubt that it's a quality issue...

Whatever you buy, for heaven's sake don't forget to take the pictures!

Happy shooting!

Dave

dolfansam
April 2nd, 2007, 08:07 PM
The difference between a $29 2GB card and a $52 card is often more than the price. Most of the inexpensive cards are older, slower technology that, while perfectly good, can't keep up with new camera demands like 30 fps video and fast frame rates.

Another issue is simply quality. A flash memory chip is produced like any other solid-state device and the chance of 100% of the millions of little doo-dads coming out perfectly is small. Manufacturers test the chips for "acceptable" numbers of errors and reject anything below their customer's standards. Unless the error count is off the charts, the rejects aren't just thrown away. Let's just say that all customers don't have the same standards and leave it at that. A card with errors may still work very well until its controller tries to write to the bad sector causing a file to be lost, or worse, corrupting the whole card! (Image rescue software will usually recover most of the files on a corrupt card, but what a pain!) If you have a 2gb SD card in your camera and take 5 pictures a week, the controller may never even try to write to a sector that is iffy. Take that same card on a vacation and shoot 800 photos in a week without emptying the card and it's a different story!

Though it's not mentioned too often, flash memory has a limit (a large limit, so don't worry too much) on the number of reads and writes before it "wears out". This results in bad sectors and errors just like on an old hard drive. Even the best cards will eventually suffer from this, so if you begin with more errors on a lower-quality card the time until the card becomes unusable can be shortened considerably.

I'm not saying not to buy inexpensive memory, just be aware of why it might be inexpensive. To me spending $100s on camera equipment (or even $1000s), $1000s more on a wonderful trip and then waffing over a $20 difference in memory to record it seems silly. I remember a catch line that a race car parts manufacturer used to great effect: "Buy the best and only cry once!"

BTW, none of this applies to similar brands at different retailers. As I write this, Best Buy online has a fast 4gb Sandisk Extreme III CF card for $116 while Costco has the same card for $79. I somehow doubt that it's a quality issue...

Whatever you buy, for heaven's sake don't forget to take the pictures!

Happy shooting!

Dave

SanDisk memory cards are cheaper, but I have not seen a difference between them and the ones by Sony, Olympus or others as far as quality.

WIT
April 2nd, 2007, 08:32 PM
If only spending more money were sufficient protection. Regardless of price paid, I always first plug the card into the PC and fill the card with photos a few times to see if it will fail BEFORE I take the card anywhere important. By doing this right away I usually still have the receipt and can easily replace the bad card. WIT

pierces
April 2nd, 2007, 08:34 PM
SanDisk memory cards are cheaper, but I have not seen a difference between them and the ones by Sony, Olympus or others as far as quality.

Sony, Olympus,Sandisk, Lexar and the other major players are all considered first-tier vendors. They all have high quality standards and you should find little if any difference between them for similarly-rated cards. My caveat was about second-, third- and x-tier vendors that may be half the price, but offer older, slower tech and/or substandard quality in exchange.

Caveat emptor.

Dave

njcruisefan
June 5th, 2007, 11:28 AM
Hello i have a question
can anyone tell me if i can put a bigger card in my camera?
i just got it ant it says it will take upto a 2gb sd card but i wanted to get a bigger card will it work?
the camera was made in 2006
thank you john

pierces
June 6th, 2007, 05:15 PM
Hello i have a question
can anyone tell me if i can put a bigger card in my camera?
i just got it ant it says it will take upto a 2gb sd card but i wanted to get a bigger card will it work?
the camera was made in 2006
thank you john

Your camera make and model would be helpful in answering....

Easy guesstimated answers:

If it uses SD memory and it says 2GB max, then that's it. SD memory isn't available over 2GB. For 4GB and higher, you need a camera that supports SDHC (Secure Digital High Capacity). The cards are visually identical, but while an SDHC-capable camera can use SD, it doesn't work the other way around. Many, but not all of the newer cameras support SDHC since it's only been around since mid-2006. Since I don't know which end of 2006 your camera was made in, I can only tell you with certainty that your camera will support two 2GB cards for a total of 4GB! ;)

If it is a DSLR and takes CompactFlash memory, chances are that it will support up to the current limit of 16GB. There were a few models that don't support FAT32 (needed to see more than 2GB in a vloume), but I think a 2006 and later model would be a safe bet.

Easiest way to find out would be to go to the manufacturer's website and look up your model. There is usually a FAQ page that has answers to things like that.

Also, don't buy cheap memory. It cracks me up when someone coughs up big $$$ for a camera and then squeals over a $10 difference in the price of good memory!

Buying a 2GB no-name brand at the local supermarket for $14 instead of a Sandisk Ultra II at Costco for $39 may seem like the deal of the week, but getting a "CARD NOT READABLE" error in the middle of your $4,000 cruise eats up those savings in a hurry.

Dave

njcruisefan
June 6th, 2007, 06:48 PM
Thank you for your help but you lost me a little my camers is a vivitar x30 10mp and it takes sd card to i guess i can only go up to 2gb.
thank you again john

pierces
June 6th, 2007, 07:23 PM
Thank you for your help but you lost me a little my camers is a vivitar x30 10mp and it takes sd card to i guess i can only go up to 2gb.
thank you again john

According to the spec sheet on their site, the Vivitar x30 has 32MB of internal memory and uses SD cards for removeable storage. As I stated above, the SD format only supports up to 2 GB, but that still beats a 24 exposure roll of film by a huge factor! Just pick up a couple of Sandisk Ultra II 2GB cards at Costco ($28.99 online!) and shoot away!

I wrote a beginner-friendly article on resolution and memory that may be of help to you. Look here: http://www.pptphoto.com/ArticlePages/VivaLaResolution.htm

Dave

njcruisefan
June 6th, 2007, 09:06 PM
Thank you again
now how many pics can i fit on a 2gb card for a 10 mp camera
thanks again john

pierces
June 6th, 2007, 10:50 PM
Thank you again
now how many pics can i fit on a 2gb card for a 10 mp camera
thanks again john

No easy way to tell. I have no idea how much the camera's processor compresses the images. My 6MP DSLR produces an averave of a 4mb file while my 7.1mp Canon pocket camera produces an average 2.2mb file. For a 10mp compact, I'd gurss at about a 3.5mb file, so a 2GB chip might hold 600-700 images. Because every image compresses differently, this is at best a guess.

The easiest way is to plug whatever size empty chip you have into the camera and read how many shots the camera estimates are left. If you have a 256mb chip and the camera says you have room for 75 shots left, just multiply that by eight for 2GB. Since your camera has 32mb of internal memory, shoot until it fills up and multiply that number of shots by 64. Still, it's never going to be an exact number.

A safe bet is to buy more memory than you ever think you'll need...that way you'll usually have almost enough!

Dave

Host Sheila
June 7th, 2007, 09:15 PM
Thanks, Dave...didn't know you wrote that article...will look it up and learn something before we join you - down under! :)

pierces
June 7th, 2007, 10:33 PM
Thanks, Dave...didn't know you wrote that article...will look it up and learn something before we join you - down under! :)

Hey Sheila!

I didn't know the board let M.A.N.I.A.C.S. just wander around outside their threads! :D

The articles ar just good common-sense info with answers for folks without a clue where to start. Fun to write and I've gotten some real nice thank you letters from readers.

Later,

Dave

boeckli
June 8th, 2007, 12:09 AM
Hey Sheila!

I didn't know the board let M.A.N.I.A.C.S. just wander around outside their threads! :D

The articles ar just good common-sense info with answers for folks without a clue where to start. Fun to write and I've gotten some real nice thank you letters from readers.

Later,

Dave

From another M.A.N.I.A.C.S. member - the mentioned article is indeed very informative. Thanks also for various other tips from you I have picked up on this board over the last few months (especially about Irfanview, Picasa and also Autostitch - have used all three and using Picasa for web storage :) )
Look forward to meeting you on the M.A.N.I.A.C.S. cruise ...

pierces
June 8th, 2007, 05:57 PM
...Irfanview, Picasa and also Autostitch - have used all three and using Picasa for web storage :) )....

Wow boeckli! I just type stuff for fun...I had no idea anyone would listen!:eek:

Just kidding! Glad to know that some of those bits were of use. I use all three extensively and continue to recommend tham highly!

Would you believe I'm already stocking up on memory for the NZ-HI trip?!?

I need to look up "obsessive" again...I thinl I'm getting close!

Dave

Host Sheila
June 8th, 2007, 06:45 PM
Hey, Dave,
Since you're bringing so much memory on our cruise, I think I'll just 'borrow' your pix and not worry about how mine come out :) Just kidding, of course.

What do you think of Kingston SD? I've used them for about a year and have had no problems.

Smiling Cruiser
June 8th, 2007, 08:01 PM
Dear Dave, Just bought a 2GB Sandisk Ultra Compact Flash card at Costco's 2 hrs. ago. Paid $34.99. Then I stumbled on this thread. I have plenty of smaller CF's and was glad to get this one before our upcoming trip. I read your article and feel good about my purchase. Thanks for all the info. Happy Sails to all, Kathy

pierces
June 8th, 2007, 11:19 PM
Hey, Dave,
Since you're bringing so much memory on our cruise, I think I'll just 'borrow' your pix and not worry about how mine come out :) Just kidding, of course.

You wouldn't be the first...:D

What do you think of Kingston SD? I've used them for about a year and have had no problems.

Kingston has been around for a long time and made their name in regular computer memory. They make a wide range of products, including flash memory and I've never heard negative comments about their quality.

I use Sandisk mostly because I had to start somewhere. I searched for good reviews, bought some and have been happy with it. I've found no reason to switch brands, but have nothing against any of the majors like Kingston, Lexar, Panasonic or others.

Dave

pierces
June 8th, 2007, 11:25 PM
Dear Dave, Just bought a 2GB Sandisk Ultra Compact Flash card at Costco's 2 hrs. ago. Paid $34.99. Then I stumbled on this thread. I have plenty of smaller CF's and was glad to get this one before our upcoming trip. I read your article and feel good about my purchase. Thanks for all the info. Happy Sails to all, Kathy

You won't regret the purchase...until the price drops another 50%! (I paid more than $34.99 for my first 1GB Ultra II...a lot more!) ;)

I have a handful of Sandisk Ultra II CF cards and they've been flawless.

Glad you liked the article!

Enjoy your trip and Happy Shooting!

Dave