Journey Drydock

[long_shot45]

Anyone have any information on Journey drydock?

[jumponboard]

Anyone have any information on Journey drydock?

I also am hungry for info. Hope that someone has info soon

[elktoncruiser]

I waiting for info to as I am booked on her in Sept

[pilewski]

with all the resources on these boards, it seems odd that nobody has seen or heard anything about the journey or quest. they realy are the best kept secrets ever discussed on these threads. i'm booked for early augist 2007 and none of my e-mails to celebrity have been answered regarding the rooms, size of the deck, or whether there will be a childrens' program on board. i know there are plenty of posters here who say no kids' programs on hjourney or quest, but i need to hear it from celebtiry. why have a cruise ship out of new york to a popular resort island during summer vacation without a kids' program. if no program, i bet there will be a lot of disappointed people; both parents with no time to relax and those with no kids having to deal with the unsupervised hoards. someone from celebrity, please let us know!!!

[Spender Nui]

Information on the Journey and Quest is hard to come by.

Spoke with the cruise consultant on a recent cruise and was told there would be no kids program. There would be casual dress and open dining. This seems to be the general consensus. That said, she was confused about the size of the cabins.

I've sailed on these ships and can state that they are not kid friendly. When they were built they were designed for adult only cruises. Kids were not allowed.

[jumponboard]

Does anyone know where the Journey modifications are taking place?

[gkm]

I've heard that there will be Freestyle dining, the dress will be country club casual and there will be no formal nights -- This information came from a TA.

We're booked on the Quest for her April 12 transatlantic. Is anyone else?

Garry

[Rev22:17]

Garry,

I've heard that there will be Freestyle dining, the dress will be country club casual and there will be no formal nights -- This information came from a TA.

Hate to break the news to you, but your travel agent was wrong with regard to at least one detail. MV Celebrity Journey cannot offer "Freestyle Dining" because "Freestyle Dining" is a Norwegian Cruise Line designation, undoubtedly protected as either a trade mark or a service mark.

According to Celebrity's press release, MV Celebrity Journey and MV Celebrity Quest will join MV Celebrity Xpedition to form the "Celebrity Expeditions" fleet. There will be several significant differences between the "Celebrity Cruises" product and the "Celebrity Expeditions" product. Among these differences:

>> 1. The dress code will be "casual" every evening aboard all three "Celebrity Expeditions" vessels.

>> 2. The main dining room will be "open seating" for dinner aboard all three "Celebrity Expeditions" vessels.

>> 3. The "Celebrity Expeditions" vessels will NOT have dedicated children's, youth, and teen centers.

>> 4. The "Celebrity Expeditions" vessels will NOT have shows as elaborate as those aboard the "Celebrity Cruises" vessels.

But unlike their smaller fleetmate, MV Celebrity Journey and MV Celebrity Quest will have many of Celebrity's "signature" elements including AquaSpa by Elemis, Michael's Club, Cova Cafe di Milano, Celebrity@Sea, a Martini Bar, and the new Boutique C. These ships also will have two specialty restaurants named Aqualina (apparently Italian) and Prime C (apparently a steak house).

Norm.

[gkm]

Well, maybe the Journey won't have freestyle dining, but the Quest does, or at least that's what it says on my booking confirmation statement. Maybe you'd like to explain to me what the difference is between Open Seating and Freestyle seating.

Garry

[RodPat]

Just off Infinity last week and picked up some paper on Journey and Quest.

Here are the room sizes
PS 603 sq. ft and there are 6 of them
RS 538 sq. ft and there are 4 of them
SS 323 sq. ft and there are 32 of them
Veranda
SV 215sq.ft and there are 10 of them
1A 215 sq.ft and there are 96 of them
2A 215 sq.ft and there are 91 of them
2A accessible 323 sq.ft and there are 2 of them
Oceanview
04 161 sq.ft and there are 36 of them
05 161 sq.ft and there are 16 of them
06 161 sq.ft and there are 4 of them
07 161 sq. ft and there are 18 of them
08 161 sq. ft and there are 12 of them
08 Accessible242 sq. ft and there are 2 of them
Inside
09 151 sq.ft and there are 8 of them
10 151 sq.ft and there are10 of them
11 151 sq. ft and there are 4 of them
12 151 sq.ft and there are 2 of them
12 Accessible 227 sq. ft and there are 2 of them.

It seems to be the same for both ships. Hope this helps.
Pat

[pilewski]

if celebrity intends to change the ways things are done on boad, then why would their website say the following:
Discover a comfortably sophisticated, upscale cruise experience aboard Celebrity’s enchanting new ship, Celebrity Journey. With slightly more than 700 guests, Celebrity Journey offers a traditional Celebrity cruise experience in a more intimate environment.

to me, a traditional cruise experience means casual, semi-formal and formal dining, all at a set time.

[mari10]

if celebrity intends to change the ways things are done on boad, then why would their website say the following:
Discover a comfortably sophisticated, upscale cruise experience aboard Celebrity’s enchanting new ship, Celebrity Journey. With slightly more than 700 guests, Celebrity Journey offers a traditional Celebrity cruise experience in a more intimate environment.

to me, a traditional cruise experience means casual, semi-formal and formal dining, all at a set time.

Hi,
Do you have the Celebrity 07/08 Expeditions brochure?
The brochure goes into detail as to what you should expect on a Journey, Quest or Xpedition ships.
If you are using a travel agent, that should also be your source for more in depth information.
There will not be traditional dining dining, nor casual, semi formal or formal dining at set times. Nor will there be dedicated children's play centers.
I have taken the course on Celebrity Expeditions, and know that this is the way it is going to be.
Mari

[LMKohler]

Just out of curiosity -- what "course" did you take;) Inquiring minds want to know. FYI, my travel agent told me we would find out more after Journey's first sailing. Then all questions would be answered, but until then and since Celebrity isn't confirming anything, it's up in the air. It's new and different, that much we do know.

Also, I'm sure "casual" dining and "freestyle" dining are basically one in the same, just a matter of semantics and feel certain that is what Garry meant:)

Lucy

[dkjretired]

Just out of curiosity -- what "course" did you take;) Inquiring minds want to know. FYI, my travel agent told me we would find out more after Journey's first sailing. Then all questions would be answered, but until then and since Celebrity isn't confirming anything, it's up in the air. It's new and different, that much we do know.

Also, I'm sure "casual" dining and "freestyle" dining are basically one in the same, just a matter of semantics and feel certain that is what Garry meant:)

Lucy

They are basically the same, just a matter of semantics. We often see people using the name of another cruise lines trademark products or items to refer to things Celebrity has on board. It just makes things easier for everyone. Most common would be the card used to charge things on board. Has many different names on various cruise lines.

All of these things about the dining have been announced by Celebrity several months ago. There will not be the formal, informal or casual dining and there will be no dedicated childrens spaces.

I think they may have an obligation to provide some type of childrens programs this summer since so many people booked thinking they were going on the Zenith and then had their bookings changed but thats just my opinion.

[Mr. Tucker]

Just reviewed the deck plans from the Celebrity site for this ship. It is a shame as it appears that they have removed some of the nicer areas that the R class ships were originally constructed with.

For example:

1. The beautiful library is gone and replaced with Michaels Club/Cigar Bar.

2. The lounge/martini bar by the casino with all the overstuffed chairs is gone and replaced with a larger casino. The present casino, albeit a little small, certainly was capable of serving the much smaller number of passengers and is frequently empty.

3. The casual quiet lounge outside the dining room has been replaced with a Martini Bar. This undoubtedly will add to the noise level in the dining room as they are not separated by full height walls.

4. The nice open area with comfortable seating at the top of the grand staircase has been replaced with the cova cafe with no seating.

5. The main reception area which was once spacious with overstuffed chairs has been made smaller with the addition of a boutique store. The grand staircase will probably not look so grand anymore.

6. The card/games room has been removed and the spa has been expanded into that area with an acupunture room. They now have absolutely no facilities for people to play bridge or other table games other than going to the buffet dining area.

I think the biggest losses are the library, card room and the original martini bar. Large open public spaces have been replaced with money making venues which, in my opinion, is not necessary for this small population ship as there are many areas that currently go unused most of the day. There is also a clear absence of any childrens facility.

To me, a big fan of the R class ships, this is truly a very dissapointing move on the part of Celebrity to destroy some of the beautiful ambience that was originally a design feature and selling factor of these ships. It appears the almighty bottom line dollar has taken over the management of this ship. Unfortunate for the future passengers that they are not going to see this ship in what was its true glory.

[Spender Nui]

Just off Infinity last week and picked up some paper on Journey and Quest.

Here are the room sizes
PS 603 sq. ft and there are 6 of them
RS 538 sq. ft and there are 4 of them
SS 323 sq. ft and there are 32 of them
Veranda
SV 215sq.ft and there are 10 of them
1A 215 sq.ft and there are 96 of them
2A 215 sq.ft and there are 91 of them
2A accessible 323 sq.ft and there are 2 of them
Oceanview
04 161 sq.ft and there are 36 of them
05 161 sq.ft and there are 16 of them
06 161 sq.ft and there are 4 of them
07 161 sq. ft and there are 18 of them
08 161 sq. ft and there are 12 of them
08 Accessible242 sq. ft and there are 2 of them
Inside
09 151 sq.ft and there are 8 of them
10 151 sq.ft and there are10 of them
11 151 sq. ft and there are 4 of them
12 151 sq.ft and there are 2 of them
12 Accessible 227 sq. ft and there are 2 of them.

It seems to be the same for both ships. Hope this helps.
Pat


It should be noted that square footage includes balcony area where applicable.

[kelmac]

Since there will be open seating and casual dress, this must require everyone to do "automatic" tipping charged to their onboard account?

Anyone have answers to these questions?

--where is the Journey being dry docked?
--will a visit to the alternative restaurants require an additional fee?
--if you find a table/waiter/time you like, can you request it each night?
--how will the entertainment differ?
--has the new crew already joined the Journey?

With the first Journey cruise leaving in 17 days, you would think Celebrity would release some additional info.

:) Kel

[dabear]

I think I can answer a few of your questions.X indicates there will be an xtra fee for specialty restaurants. Following is based upon our xperience on Regatta which x is trying to copy. You should be able to reqest the same waiter if you are willin g to get there early or willing to wait. Entertainment is similiar but sized down (eg no "big" production shows.

[Charles4515]

Just reviewed the deck plans from the Celebrity site for this ship. It is a shame as it appears that they have removed some of the nicer areas that the R class ships were originally constructed with.

For example:

1. The beautiful library is gone and replaced with Michaels Club/Cigar Bar.



Michaels Club has been turned into a Piano Bar on the Celebrity ships I have been on the last few years so I would guess it will be piano bar on Journey. I might add a mostly empty piano bar on the sailings I have been on.

[mari10]

Just out of curiosity -- what "course" did you take;) Inquiring minds want to know. FYI, my travel agent told me we would find out more after Journey's first sailing. Then all questions would be answered, but until then and since Celebrity isn't confirming anything, it's up in the air. It's new and different, that much we do know.
Lucy

Hi Lucy,
I took a TA online course from Celebrity. Everyone that passed received tee shirts that say"Celebrity Special Agent Expeditions" They'll be great for working out.
Mari:)

[bbcstt]

my cuz in Franklin will extend my gratitude.

[alohavictoria]

I just pulled up the deck plans on X's site tonight. If you try to pull them up by selecting a room, it doesn't work, but if select a particular cruise and select the details button, the deck plans come up

[bob278]

It should be noted that square footage includes balcony area where applicable.
I truly hope you are incorrect. When I go to the Celebrity website, pick "plan a cruise/ships/quest/deckplans" and select one of the SVs, it says the stateroom area is 215 sq ft and the balcony area is 54 (same for all the veranda cabins). I'd hate to think one of their premium cabins is only 161 sq ft, but that seems to be the size of the ocean views and most of the interiors. I'm holding on to the idea that stateroom area does not include the balcony. Time will tell.

[Rev22:17]

Garry,

Well, maybe the Journey won't have freestyle dining, but the Quest does, or at least that's what it says on my booking confirmation statement. Maybe you'd like to explain to me what the difference is between Open Seating and Freestyle seating.

I think that I did. It's a question of legal entity called a "trade mark" or "service mark" that companies use to gain exclusive rights to names of brands, products, or services. For example, anybody can manufacture "in-line skates" but you can't call them "Roller Blades" because "Roller Blade" is a trade mark of another manufacturer. In the same way, Norwegian Cruise Line has exclusive right to the terms "Freestyle Cruising" and "Freestyle Dining" but any cruise line can have a dining room that offers open seating.

Splitting hairs, though, it appears that there are at least a couple differences. In Norwegian Cruise Line's "Freestyle Dining" concept, there are many restaurants with fixed menus aboard the ship and any passenger can go to any restaurant any time, as often as he or she wishes, at any time during the cruise. IOW, the ship's restaurants operate completely like restaurants ashore. So far, Celebrity has indicated that MV Celebrity Journey and MV Celebrity Quest will have a main dining room, a buffet area (which might not always operate as a buffet), and two specialty restaruants that apparently will require reservations.

Norm.

[LMKohler]

Again, I think you are "splitting" hairs and it isn't necessary. "Casual" dining or "freesyle" equals one in the same or very close. We'll have to see what the exact dining options are when we are on board or when the first Journey cruise returns.

Also, I agree with Bob -- the way I read the deck plans for Quest, the square footage for the SV cabins did not include the balcony, in fact, they have the square footage separated between the two.

Mari -- I had no idea there was such a course - what fun and I'm sure you got a lot of information:) Thanks for letting me know;)

In any event, we are very excited about these new smaller ships and they should provide us with a unique experience.

Lucy

[gkm]

Norm, the reason I used the word "Freestyle" is because when we received our deposit confirmation, it stated on the receipt that dining was freestyle. I'm not planning to get into an argument over it. I know what our TA meant by that so enough said.

One reason I don't post over here much anymore is because every word is picked over and I'm tired of having to watch my "p's" and "q's". This board used to be so friendly.:rolleyes:

Garry

[JPH814]

With only a couple of weeks left before the first sailing, I am going to start a new post called "Things to ask first Journey Cruisers" Let's put together a list of questions and ask the folks who are on the may 5 cruise to note the answers and post them when they get back. Look for my post. I am also going to put a message on the thread for the May 5th cruise asking them to read our post to get our list.

[Mr. Tucker]

I truly hope you are incorrect. When I go to the Celebrity website, pick "plan a cruise/ships/quest/deckplans" and select one of the SVs, it says the stateroom area is 215 sq ft and the balcony area is 54 (same for all the veranda cabins). I'd hate to think one of their premium cabins is only 161 sq ft, but that seems to be the size of the ocean views and most of the interiors. I'm holding on to the idea that stateroom area does not include the balcony. Time will tell.

I am very familiar with these "R" class ships and especially the aft cabins.

All veranda cabins are the same 161 square feet with the balcony square footage added to that. The new sky suites being added on deck 8 will be 240 square feet with again the balcony square footage to be added.

Inside cabins are all 151 square feet.

The added advantage of the SV cabins is that the balcony is bigger than the standard balconies on the sides of the ship (with deck 6 being the biggest and reducing in size as you go up to deck 8).

All of these ships were built identical except for some that did not originally have the 8th deck full of penthouse suites (Celebrity is referring to them now as sky suites).

The cabins on these ships are indeed very small but the ship itself (prior to Celebrity modifications as noted in previous post) is incredibly beautiful.

[mari10]

Thanks for adding nothing..
my cuz in Franklin will extend my gratitude.
For your information, I was addressing my reply to Lucy. She asked a question and I answered it.
If you would take the time to read my other posts,you will see that I have gone into detail about what I have learned about Journey. If your cuz makes it into Brentwood, I'm sure he/she will notice me right away. I'll be the one wearing the CSA tee shirt.
(celebrity special agent).
Hi Garry,
You make a good point...
Mari:confused:

[Host Sheila]

Joe,
Great idea...we're on the 4th sailing and will certainly hope for complete and early posts from the 'innovators' :) AND we pledge to add our comments when we return.

[bob278]

Thanks, Mr. Tucker.

Well, I'm both disappointed and excited. We have an aft SV for the April 2008 transatlantic. And while a lot of our "cabin time" is spent on the balcony so that's good, I have to hope the cabin is well laid out with storage as we will be getting off the Quest and onto the Legend of the Seas for a Med cruise and will have the maximum-allowed amount of clothes/luggage.

We usually sail in Celebrity CC class which has about 191 sq feet of cabin or RCCL D1 which is around 205, so 161 is going to feel small. Other than finding a place for all our "stuff", I am sure we will have a great time. We chose the Quest precisely for the idea that the ship was smaller and more intimate and had no idea about cabin size (and didn't really care). When I saw the deck plan and saw 215 sq feet for the cabin and 54 for the balcony, I was pleasantly surprised. But if it's 161/54, we'll do just fine.

Since all of my cruising experience has been on Celebrity or RCCL with traditional dining (is that trademarked by anyone?), anything else seems like "freestyle" to me. I'm not really into nuances so if there are options like showing up anytime and taking the first available table, calling ahead and then getting whatever is available at that time or reserving a particular table, it's all "non-traditional" to me and "freestyle" is as good a term as any.

[dabear]

having preferred cc cabins on the millie class ships, I was concerned, but pleasantly surprised that the veranda cabins on the r class ships were comfortable and fine. These ships are elegant, give you a more personal and classy experience. We also enjoyed open seating (we did not experience any real wait) and country club casual (I previously enjoyed and respected the dress codes on x) , but found it's easier to pack for longer trips and I was quite confortable. We're looking forward to a SA cruise on Journey in Feb, 08. Please review your cruises and comments on your ship. Enjoy!

[Mr. Tucker]

Thanks, Mr. Tucker.

Well, I'm both disappointed and excited. We have an aft SV for the April 2008 transatlantic. And while a lot of our "cabin time" is spent on the balcony so that's good.

Bob and Garry:

You won't be disappointed with the aft cabin. Well laid out and plenty of storage (small bathrooms though). Enjoy your cruise, although it is a year away.

We are booked with Oceania for two more cruises and depending upon the comments from Journey and Quest we may come back to Celebrity for another try. We are definitely sticking with the smaller ships from now on though. Much better suited to our desires.

As an aside I too agree that there is alot of nit picking with regard to the choice of words used in this thread/forum. We all know what the intent of the statement was - so why belabor it.

[LMKohler]

Mr. Tucker -- I guess I stand corrected about the cabin square footage, etc. I don't think I'll be disappointed though. I'm just excited about the new experience of trying one of these ships.

Bob -- which aft cabin do you have??? For the very first time we have one as well for our March 1st sailing:) .

Garry -- don't go away:( -- just ignore any nitpicking:p Also, I believe we have the same TA and my deposit confirmation didn't say the dining option was freestyle, it said late seating. Actually, it doesn't make any difference to me:D -- I'll eat anywhere, anytime!!

Mari -- I'll be sure to read your posts. You obviously have lots of information for me to digest.

JPH814 -- I agree, great idea -- we all want to hear about that first cruise:eek:

Lucy

[bob278]

Hi Lucy,

We have 6090 and I'm with you. 161 or 215, we'll be on a cruise and it's all good.

[baffles]

Just reviewed the deck plans from the Celebrity site for this ship. It is a shame as it appears that they have removed some of the nicer areas that the R class ships were originally constructed with.

For example:

1. The beautiful library is gone and replaced with Michaels Club/Cigar Bar.

2. The lounge/martini bar by the casino with all the overstuffed chairs is gone and replaced with a larger casino. The present casino, albeit a little small, certainly was capable of serving the much smaller number of passengers and is frequently empty.

3. The casual quiet lounge outside the dining room has been replaced with a Martini Bar. This undoubtedly will add to the noise level in the dining room as they are not separated by full height walls.

4. The nice open area with comfortable seating at the top of the grand staircase has been replaced with the cova cafe with no seating.

5. The main reception area which was once spacious with overstuffed chairs has been made smaller with the addition of a boutique store. The grand staircase will probably not look so grand anymore.

6. The card/games room has been removed and the spa has been expanded into that area with an acupunture room. They now have absolutely no facilities for people to play bridge or other table games other than going to the buffet dining area.

I think the biggest losses are the library, card room and the original martini bar. Large open public spaces have been replaced with money making venues which, in my opinion, is not necessary for this small population ship as there are many areas that currently go unused most of the day. There is also a clear absence of any childrens facility.

To me, a big fan of the R class ships, this is truly a very dissapointing move on the part of Celebrity to destroy some of the beautiful ambience that was originally a design feature and selling factor of these ships. It appears the almighty bottom line dollar has taken over the management of this ship. Unfortunate for the future passengers that they are not going to see this ship in what was its true glory.

The library will stay the library at least for most of the time during a day. It's at night that one will be able to get a drink, as if one NEEDED to drink in the library...........Will wait to see on this one............baffles:D

[cruising with marti]

Well if the Celebrity web site is to be believed, our sv cabin 7001 on the Quest lists the cabin as 254 sq ft and the veranda as 54.

so I guess we will find out on April 12th of next year.:)

Phil

[Spender Nui]

I just dug out some old literature for Renaissance. They list the balcony cabins as 173 square feet plus 43 square foot balcony.

They do not list what X is calling SV cabins as a separate entity.

This is from Renaissance publication AJ4TAv2. I have several other of their publications giving the same information.

[bob278]

Well, the numbers are all over the place. I don't plan to take a tape measure so whatever they tell me is OK. We'll have a great time, but I will be looking for posts to say that the cabin "felt big" or "felt small". I'm still lokking forward to the cruise. Heck, I look forward to all my cruises.

[cruising with marti]

Well, the numbers are all over the place. I don't plan to take a tape measure so whatever they tell me is OK. We'll have a great time, but I will be looking for posts to say that the cabin "felt big" or "felt small". I'm still lokking forward to the cruise. Heck, I look forward to all my cruises.

Well, I am taking a tape measure and if my cabin is not 254 sq ft as advertised on Celebrity's web site, I will demand a refund based on my fare divided by the actual square footage, of coarse if its larger then mums the word.

Phil

[Spender Nui]

Just another thought. The typical outside cabin on both the Horizon and the Zenith were 172 square feet.

[LMKohler]

Hi Phil!!! So nice to "see" and "hear" from you again. It's been a long time.

Bob, I received the new brochure from our TA yesterday. DH and I were looking at it last night. It seems to answer most of the questions about the Quest that we had -- except of course for cabin sizes:)

In the end, it doesn't really matter does it? As you said, we are on a cruise.

Take care,
Lucy

[cruising with marti]

Hi Lucy, and Bob is right, as long as we are on a cruise.:)

Bob, Jen was able to change our cabin to 7116 aft.:D

Phil

[long_shot45]

I can't beleive that there is no news about Journey in dry dock. Does anyone know where she is?

[californiacruiseluvrs]

I believe my wife and I are in 7117

[long_shot45]

we are also in 7117. 9/1/07. Are you first?

[gillianrose]

1. The beautiful library is gone and replaced with Michaels Club/Cigar Bar.

Michaels Clubs are no longer CIGAR bars, but PIANO bars, from all I have heard and read.

If someone knows any different about ANY of the Michaels Clubs permitting cigar smoking, please post that information.

We don't want to smell cigar smoke!

For that matter, libraries should be off-limits to all tobacco smoke, day and night.

I agree with someone who posted the lack of need to drink in the library in the evening. I hope Celebrity keeps the libraries as they originally were, i.e. as LIBRARIES, and chooses another locale for a lounge.

[mringenoldus]

We are also in 7117 on October 6. Must be a very popular cabin! Our relatives are next door in 7115.

I'm surprised that there are still no photos. Doesn't the Journey sail in a few weeks?

[Charles4515]

We are also in 7117 on October 6. Must be a very popular cabin! Our relatives are next door in 7115.

I'm surprised that there are still no photos. Doesn't the Journey sail in a few weeks?

It is in drydock.

[jumponboard]

Where is the Journey in drydock?

[kelmac]

Where is the Journey in drydock?

After "surfing" for a while, it looks like the Journey is in Freeport, Bahamas.
Kudos to Cruise Critic, as all my searching lead me back to this site:


http://www.cruisecritic.com/features/articles.cfm?ID=426

If you really need cruise information, Cruise Critic leads the way!!:)

Enjoy!
Kel

[Dolphins]

Went to a TA today (4/23) and they still don't have a Journey brochure available 2 weeks before her first sailing?

[Lsimon]

Went to a TA today (4/23) and they still don't have a Journey brochure available 2 weeks before her first sailing?

They do exist. We got one while on the Galaxy in February. Try calling Celebrity.

[Host Andy]

Went to a TA today (4/23) and they still don't have a Journey brochure available 2 weeks before her first sailing?

Hi Dolphins !

I have a brochure. It wasnt easy to get, but they are available. Try calling Captains Club. They were able to put me in touch with the right area. Good luck !

[mike@sea]

Does anyone know why the SV Cabins (front and aft) in contrary to the regular balcony cabins can not be booked for 3 people? Are they smaller despite their description? Or are they maybe wider and not as long which would probably result in a love seat and maybe a chair rather than a sofa bed ?
Other question for those that know the R ships. Does anyone know if it is worth booking the SV cabins other than for the quietness and view. The balcony does not look that much bigger on the pictures that I have seen.
Thank you for any information.

[1cruiselvr]

I've been on this type ship before (once in what X is calling a 1a/2a category and once in what X is categorizing as SS). I wouldn't book a forward SV as they get the most motion. Aft isn't quite as bad. The room is not much different than 1a/2as just a bit larger balcony. I personally don't think it's worth the extra $$. I'd rather spend it on excursions or other cruise extras, but that's me.
PS I know this subject has been beaten to death but my money is on no childrens' programs onboard as there this ship was designed without the space which means they would have to remove another amenity in order to have the room

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Hi
Just read this on Celebrity web-site


Celebrity Quest – Ultra-Premium Onboard Experience Highlights
Guests sailing on Celebrity Quest will enjoy a more exclusive guest experience. Celebrity Quest and her sister ship, Celebrity Journey, offer 15 classes of accommodations, all featuring butler service as well as concierge-style amenities, including fresh-cut flowers, fresh fruit, Elemis toiletries, complimentary use of Frette cotton robes, two complimentary pairs of plush slippers, plasma TVs and European bedding.

Despite the ships’ smaller size, Celebrity is offering two specialty restaurants onboard – a first for the brand. Guests staying in suites will receive one night of complimentary dining in one of the two specialty restaurants. The ships, which will not require formal attire for dining, also feature open seating in the main dining room.

The two ships are the first in Celebrity’s fleet to feature a wine bar, which will offer wine and champagne tastings, seminars, and mini-pairings of food and wine, in addition to its standard menu of fine wines by the glass or bottle.

Celebrity Journey and Celebrity Quest will offer an enhanced emphasis on spa and relaxation. The ships’ AquaSpa facilities will offer spa treatments not available on any other ships in Celebrity’s fleet. Guests in suites will be able to enjoy certain spa services in the privacy of their room. The ships will also offer an outdoor spa relaxation lounge and an aesthetics suite offering Celebrity’s popular Acupuncture at Sea, laser hair removal and microdermabrasion.

The two ships will each feature an onboard “excursion expert,” who will not only help guests select shore excursions based on their personal interests, but also serve as a destination guide, offering information about the culture and history of each port of call.

The retail experience onboard Celebrity Journey and Celebrity Quest will focus on fine art, sculpture, photography, jewelry, and resort wear.
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with all the resources on these boards, it seems odd that nobody has seen or heard anything about the journey or quest. they realy are the best kept secrets ever discussed on these threads. i'm booked for early augist 2007 and none of my e-mails to celebrity have been answered regarding the rooms, size of the deck, or whether there will be a childrens' program on board. i know there are plenty of posters here who say no kids' programs on hjourney or quest, but i need to hear it from celebtiry. why have a cruise ship out of new york to a popular resort island during summer vacation without a kids' program. if no program, i bet there will be a lot of disappointed people; both parents with no time to relax and those with no kids having to deal with the unsupervised hoards. someone from celebrity, please let us know!!!

[Romchek1]

I'll be sailing on the Journey on 7-7-07. I also heard that there will be open seating beginning at 7:15 PM and no formal nights, resort casual dress every night

[CrabbyHarper]

Gosh I hope not! We are sailing on Journey on Sept 8 and that is waaaaay too late for us to begin dinner.

[editor@cruisecritic]

Hi, I just got back from a day onboard in Freeport; the ship's gonna be magnificent. Our photo/video essay, "A Closer Look: Celebrity Journey" will launch either late today -- or early tomorrow. Check it out!

Carolyn

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Editor
Cruise Critic

Anyone have any information on Journey drydock?

[editor@cruisecritic]

...but from 6:30 p.m. - 9:30 p.m.

That's not too late....

We'll be offering all sorts of details in our Closer Look...now have to go back to it so we can finish -- and launch it!

Also, once you've read it if you still have questions, feel free to drop me a note at editor@cruisecritic.com (editor@cruisecritic.com). I'll do my best to offer answers.

Carolyn


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Editor
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I'll be sailing on the Journey on 7-7-07. I also heard that there will be open seating beginning at 7:15 PM and no formal nights, resort casual dress every night

[kelmac]

...but from 6:30 p.m. - 9:30 p.m.

That's not too late....

We'll be offering all sorts of details in our Closer Look...now have to go back to it so we can finish -- and launch it!

Also, once you've read it if you still have questions, feel free to drop me a note at editor@cruisecritic.com (editor@cruisecritic.com). I'll do my best to offer answers.

Carolyn


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Editor
Cruise Critic

Carolyn,

Thanks -- Cruise Critic is the best!:)

Kel

[editor@cruisecritic]

How 'bout I give Mr. Tucker's answers a little tweaking, based on my trip to Freeport Sunday...read below for what's true....

Carolyn

Carolyn Spencer Brown
Editor
Cruise Critic

Just reviewed the deck plans from the Celebrity site for this ship. It is a shame as it appears that they have removed some of the nicer areas that the R class ships were originally constructed with.

For example:

1. The beautiful library is gone and replaced with Michaels Club/Cigar Bar. Nope not true. The library will be largely intact (including that gorgeous ceiling mural) and used as a library during the day. In the pre- and post-dinner hours, it will become Michael's Club with the addition of a pianist. Bar drinks will be served from the adjoining alternative restaurant bars (so no bar in the club, again, Celebrity's not changing much in the Library) and there will be NO cigars.

2. The lounge/martini bar by the casino with all the overstuffed chairs is gone and replaced with a larger casino. The present casino, albeit a little small, certainly was capable of serving the much smaller number of passengers and is frequently empty. Yes, that's true. The martini bar is being moved....

3. The casual quiet lounge outside the dining room has been replaced with a Martini Bar. This undoubtedly will add to the noise level in the dining room as they are not separated by full height walls. I don't think so. The restaurant bar was the most under-utilized on the ship, IMHO, and it lacked any kind of character or personality. Basically just a quick spot for a pre-dinner drink but no one ever hung out there.... Re the sound barrier, well that's the kind of thing Celebrity will wait and see on...if it's a problem, they'll fix it. It's a small bar, though, and it just can't get any bigger.

4. The nice open area with comfortable seating at the top of the grand staircase has been replaced with the cova cafe with no seating. I need to check on the seating aspect but I believe there will be seating and it will be located on deck five, around the staircase/atrium area, and my impression from knowing that lobby anyway (on other R-series ships) is that it will be gorgeous and lovely.

5. The main reception area which was once spacious with overstuffed chairs has been made smaller with the addition of a boutique store. The grand staircase will probably not look so grand anymore. Well, they hadn't yet built the store into the space yet so I can't comment on how it looks (it will sell upscale jewelry) but again, another underutilized space on the R-series ships and it's well back behind the staircase so not sure that it will have any enormous impact at all.

6. The card/games room has been removed and the spa has been expanded into that area with an acupunture room. They now have absolutely no facilities for people to play bridge or other table games other than going to the buffet dining area. That's true. There's now going to be a stand alone facility (though adjoining the spa) for acupuncture. The card room has been moved to the forward facing top deck lounge -- where it will occupy a spot on starboard side, by the entrance. Speaking of the lounge, one big improvement I could already see is that the areas of interior walls, that divided the bandstand area, for instance, from the actual windowed seating area, has been demolished so the room's really light and airy now. Very pleasant.

I think the biggest losses are the library, card room and the original martini bar. Large open public spaces have been replaced with money making venues which, in my opinion, is not necessary for this small population ship as there are many areas that currently go unused most of the day. There is also a clear absence of any childrens facility. That's true: these ships were built as no-kid ships. There's just not room for a facility and frankly I think there are better options for families. At 30,000 tons and 710 passengers (more or less) there just isn't room for every type of traveler and why should there be? Not every ship has to be the proverbial all things to all people....

To me, a big fan of the R class ships, this is truly a very dissapointing move on the part of Celebrity to destroy some of the beautiful ambience that was originally a design feature and selling factor of these ships. It appears the almighty bottom line dollar has taken over the management of this ship. Unfortunate for the future passengers that they are not going to see this ship in what was its true glory. Ironically, you can see the ships in their "true glory" on Pullmantur, where nothing's been changed in 8 or 9 years, and even to an extent on Princess, which has spiffed up a few things but largely left the design intact. And you know what? It's dated. If you've sailed on Oceania, which has spent millions to give their Regatta, Nautica and Insignia a fresher, more contemporary look, you'll see how much more gorgeous they can be! And Celebrity is trying to go head-to-head with Oceania.

And I also want to point out that your comments are premature. You haven't seen Journey yet! Once you see it -- and if it then doesn't measure up -- well that's fair. But I'd encourage you to withhold judgement til you've got more info....

[Host Sheila]

Carolyn,
Thanks so much for your insights...much appreciated. I'm really looking forward to reading your entire article AND to sailing Journey on May 26th. Will certainly write a report from the standpoint of a 'pioneer' cruiser when we return!

[editor@cruisecritic]

I'll get to tour Celebrity Journey on Friday, May 4 but won't be sailing so I can't wait to read your report, Sheila.

One thing that's in my story but does belong here too. And that is that Celebrity's trying a whole new approach with this ship -- they've abandoned the philosophy that it should just be a smaller version of a Millennium-class vessel. It's a different experience and as a real fan of Oceania -- which they want to compete against with these smaller ships -- I'm intrigued. They've even hired away a staffer from Oceania who worked with their ship refurbs (and also was hotel director) -- so we'll see.

One thing he -- David Whelan is his name -- said over and over is that Celebrity knows there's going to be some tweaking and that it looks forward to making changes as passengers comment. The first three cruises especially (that's my surmise) will be tests -- and anyone cruising on those trips is the lucky position of having a real say as to what works and what doesn't.

So I'll definitely be staying tuned to y'all -- until I can get on board :) for a cruise and not just a tour.

Carolyn



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Editor
Cruise Critic


Carolyn,
Thanks so much for your insights...much appreciated. I'm really looking forward to reading your entire article AND to sailing Journey on May 26th. Will certainly write a report from the standpoint of a 'pioneer' cruiser when we return!

[editor@cruisecritic]

Celebrity Journey's not the only ship we'll be previewing over the next six weeks...it's insane how many new and refurbished ships are debuting in this time frame. Check out our From the Bridge for details: http://www.cruisecritic.com/features/articles.cfm?ID=443 (http://www.cruisecritic.com/features/articles.cfm?ID=443).

Carolyn

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Editor
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[cruisingdelt]

I'll be sailing on the Journey on 7-7-07. I also heard that there will be open seating beginning at 7:15 PM and no formal nights, resort casual dress every night

Romchek,

The DW and two older kids I will also be on the 7/7/7 sailing. Best wishes for a great cruise.

[gillianrose]

If Celebrity wants to go head to head with Oceania, can we expect that AT LEAST one of the ships will be entirely NON-SMOKING??? :)

[dabear]

I'm hoping that X does a good job competing w/O. X used to be our favorite line, then were were disappointed with last cruise on the COnnie and tried O. Regatta blew away X on food and service and we didn't have to fight chair hogs. X still had better entertainment and casino. I think X is making a smart move to have different catagory for different pax and if a few ships don't focus on kids, at least everyone has a choice. We're trying Journey in 2/08 for so am.

[editor@cruisecritic]

Nah, that's never going to happen. But Oceania's not smoke-free either (though they're very restrictive)....

Carolyn

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Editor
Cruise Critic


If Celebrity wants to go head to head with Oceania, can we expect that AT LEAST one of the ships will be entirely NON-SMOKING??? :)

[celebrityfan65]

:( Bottom line with switching everyone from the Zenith to the Journey is that we were not give all the details. We were promised to have all ammenities as the Zenith. The cruise to Bermuda on the Zenith was a family cruise. Who else sails from NJ during the summer for 7 days??? We are now on a ship that we are being told that there are no kid programs. There will be alot of kids with nothing to do. Yes once we hit the island we are busy but at night it was great for them to mix with kids their own age and have their own things to do. Seems like they told us what we wanted to hear in order to keep our reservations and not jump to another cruise line.

[1cruiselvr]

But there's no place to retrofit this ship for a kids program without taking away adult space - what should go - the library? the spa? the gym? I don't think everyone has a true picture of how small this ship is. It's not like they can add space for an additional amenity. If a kids program is that important to you, then you really should consider another cruise/ship because there is no kids program and not many places they can hang out without disturbing that area's function (library,gym, etc.) Not alot of wide open spaces on this ship. I'm not anti-kid, I'm just trying to explain that Journey and Quest will not be very kid friendly due to their original design and lack of space for the addition of kid amenities. Those families that enjoy and require kids programs should reconsider sailing on the Journey or Quest. Happy Sailing!

[kevin and susan]

:Who else sails from NJ during the summer for 7 days???

Not from New Jersey, but right across the river in Manhatten you could do a 7 day Bermuda sailing on the NCL Crown.

sue

[celebrityfan65]

We did consider switching lines but Celebrity promised our group that we would receive all programs that was on the Zenith. To try and switch now and get what we want is too late. When on the Horizon they would have the kids meet in the cafe with counselors or they would close a lounge from 10pm-1am so that they had somewhere to hang out. They did not have specific teen centers. There are going to be a lot of kids with nothing to do.

[kelmac]

We did consider switching lines but Celebrity promised our group that we would receive all programs that was on the Zenith. To try and switch now and get what we want is too late. When on the Horizon they would have the kids meet in the cafe with counselors or they would close a lounge from 10pm-1am so that they had somewhere to hang out. They did not have specific teen centers. There are going to be a lot of kids with nothing to do.

What date are you cruising? Perhaps we could help find you an alternative. As we all know, sometimes the customer service people of Celebrity get it COMPLETELY wrong.
As I remember, the Horizon and the Zenith were not all that kid friendly anyway???

Enjoy!
Kel

[JPH814]

Quote:
"Seems like they told us what we wanted to hear in order to keep our reservations and not jump to another cruise line."

I doubt this is the case for at least one reason - economics. I don't know about you, but what I am paying for this cruise is a lot less than what the cruise is being sold for today. We got Zenith pricing for Journey accomodations and most of us got pretty major upgrades. I was actually expecting X to encourage people to cancel so they could resell the cabins at their higher market rate.

[pilewski]

i reserved two sky suites a couple of weeks ago for journey and the price was less than i expected.

[Rev22:17]

1cruiselvr,

But there's no place to retrofit this ship for a kids program without taking away adult space - what should go - the library? the spa? the gym? I don't think everyone has a true picture of how small this ship is. It's not like they can add space for an additional amenity. If a kids program is that important to you, then you really should consider another cruise/ship because there is no kids program and not many places they can hang out without disturbing that area's function (library,gym, etc.) Not alot of wide open spaces on this ship. I'm not anti-kid, I'm just trying to explain that Journey and Quest will not be very kid friendly due to their original design and lack of space for the addition of kid amenities. Those families that enjoy and require kids programs should reconsider sailing on the Journey or Quest. Happy Sailing!

Well, "they" most certainly could do what "they" did aboard MV Zenith -- that is, to remodel two adjacent standard staterooms into a children's center by removing the bulkhead between them and refurnishing the space for that use.

Actually, the better solution probably would have been to convert one of the specialty restaurants into a children's center, a youth center, and a teen center, and make the other specialty restaurant very upscale like the specialty restaurants aboard MV Century and the four ships of the Millennium class.

The kicker, though, is that the Bermuda itineraries are just a gap filler before MV Celebrity Journey and MV Celebrity Quest begin the real "Celebrity Expeditions" itinerareis. Celebrity does not expect the "Celebrity Expeditions" itineraries to attract very many families with children. I really do not expect MV Celebrity Journey to do Bermuda itineraries in 2008 and beyond.

Norm.

[Rev22:17]

celebrityfan65,

:( Bottom line with switching everyone from the Zenith to the Journey is that we were not give all the details. We were promised to have all ammenities as the Zenith. The cruise to Bermuda on the Zenith was a family cruise. Who else sails from NJ during the summer for 7 days??? We are now on a ship that we are being told that there are no kid programs. There will be alot of kids with nothing to do. Yes once we hit the island we are busy but at night it was great for them to mix with kids their own age and have their own things to do. Seems like they told us what we wanted to hear in order to keep our reservations and not jump to another cruise line.

You have a valid point. In view of the number of families with children of all ages who undoubedly had booked "Bermuda" cruises aboard MV Zenith before the company announced the ship swap, the line should provide counsellors and programs for the various age groups even though the ship does not have dedicted facilities for them. Failure to do so may constitute breach of contract since the representation that MV Zenith had such programs was material to your decision to book aboard that vessel.

Norm.

[JPH814]

Pilewski
" i reserved two sky suites a couple of weeks ago for journey and the price was less than i expected."

I have three royal suites (6 people) for a 7 day Bermuda sail on Journey in July. I am paying $1700 per person because that is what I was to pay for my concierge class cabin on the Zenith. I would be interested to know how this compares to what you are paying. I would guessing that X is selling Royal Suites for this cruise at a little more than $1700 PP now.

My point is this: I believe that there may be some areas that X is providing less than what was contracted on the Zenith. But in many, many ways the value is much better due to the newer accomodations, higher crew to passenger ratio, butlers, etc.

[Mr. Tucker]

Actually, the better solution probably would have been to convert one of the specialty restaurants into a children's center, a youth center, and a teen center, and make the other specialty restaurant very upscale like the specialty restaurants aboard MV Century and the four ships of the Millennium class.

My guess is that you have never been on an R class ship. The two specialty restaurants are already much more upscale than either the Celebrity M class or the new Century. These are not kid ships and to remove one of the restaurants for a kids club would be a regrettable move.

As far as Carolyn's responce to my earlier post - I will refrain from further comment until I have seen first hand what they have remodeled. I must admit that my experience with the R class is with Oceania which is a more upscale experience than Celebrity is providing so my opinion may be tainted.

[pachecos]

Is this up and where do we find it?

[editor@cruisecritic]

It turns out that I took too many photos. And every photo requires a caption. Long story short -- it's taken awhile. But we'll launch it tomorrow (and then on Monday, May 7, check back for a "before and after" story where we offer lots of photos of the "after" portion. It will be the top item on our Today on Cruise Critic feature on the home page (and it will also be in our "shipyard snaps" section, under features). I'd say look for it after about 3 p.m.

Carolyn

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Editor
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Is this up and where do we find it?

[gillianrose]

[FONT=Georgia]Nah, that's never going to happen. But Oceania's not smoke-free either (though they're very restrictive)....

Never say never. Did you ever think you'd see successful smokefree Irish pubs, entirely smokefree major hotels in Europe, etc? ;-)

Seriously, though, if Celebrity wants to compete with Oceania, then the company does need to have similarly restrictive smoking policies on AT LEAST one of their two ships.

As I understand it, there is absolutley NO SMOKING permitted in staterooms, on private balconies, inside any public rooms (with exception of one enclosed lounge for smokers) and one designated place on deck for smoking.

Aside from that, OCEANIA is essentially smoke-free, right?

[pachecos]

Great thanks!!!

[Maya-Tucker]

[quote=editor@cruisecritic;9931182]I'll get to tour Celebrity Journey on Friday, May 4 but won't be sailing so I can't wait to read your report, Sheila.

One thing that's in my story but does belong here too. And that is that Celebrity's trying a whole new approach with this ship -- they've abandoned the philosophy that it should just be a smaller version of a Millennium-class vessel. It's a different experience and as a real fan of Oceania -- which they want to compete against with these smaller ships -- I'm intrigued.

So I'll definitely be staying tuned to y'all -- until I can get on board :) for a cruise and not just a tour.

Carolyn

How do you know all of this if you haven't been aboard? I would actually like to see Celebrity do something exceptional, but I just have to wonder?

[Maya-Tucker]

Never say never. Did you ever think you'd see successful smokefree Irish pubs, entirely smokefree major hotels in Europe, etc? ;-)

Seriously, though, if Celebrity wants to compete with Oceania, then the company does need to have similarly restrictive smoking policies on AT LEAST one of their two ships.

As I understand it, there is absolutley NO SMOKING permitted in staterooms, on private balconies, inside any public rooms (with exception of one enclosed lounge for smokers) and one designated place on deck for smoking.

Aside from that, OCEANIA is essentially smoke-free, right?
Yes, you are absolutely correct on this. They have one small area beside the pool bar ( 6 tables) and one area in one of the inside bars and I'm not sure what it's called. And no balconcy smoking or you are put of on the next stop

[Host Sheila]

Carolyn.
I'll be patient...just excited about getting some good info. Really looking forward to your onboard tour on May 4th. Since she's sailing on the 5th, that will be very timely info. Thanks - looking forward to the pictures, too.

[Maya-Tucker]

Carolyn.
I'll be patient...just excited about getting some good info. Really looking forward to your onboard tour on May 4th. Since she's sailing on the 5th, that will be very timely info. Thanks - looking forward to the pictures, too.


I agree, but don't bring in false pretense for eveyone here if it's not true. If you haven't seen the ship yet????

[JORAY]

[QUOTE=editor@cruisecritic;9930250]Hi, I just got back from a day onboard in Freeport; the ship's gonna be magnificent. Our photo/video essay, "A Closer Look: Celebrity Journey" will launch either late today -- or early tomorrow. Check it out!

Note her statement was " from a day onboard"

Ray

[editor@cruisecritic]

Hi, Maya. The information I'm sharing is info I got while onboard last Sunday while Celebrity Journey was in drydock in Freeport. While the ship was in the midst of its refurbishment efforts. So while I most emphatically was onboard -- and it's worthy of mention that Cruise Critic was the only media outlet allowed this access -- I have not yet cruised on the ship (no one has; it's not yet launched). So my reporting is based on what I'm seeing at this point....

Does that clarify?


Carolyn

Carolyn Spencer Brown
Editor
Cruise Critic

[quote=editor@cruisecritic;9931182]I'll get to tour Celebrity Journey on Friday, May 4 but won't be sailing so I can't wait to read your report, Sheila.

One thing that's in my story but does belong here too. And that is that Celebrity's trying a whole new approach with this ship -- they've abandoned the philosophy that it should just be a smaller version of a Millennium-class vessel. It's a different experience and as a real fan of Oceania -- which they want to compete against with these smaller ships -- I'm intrigued.

So I'll definitely be staying tuned to y'all -- until I can get on board :) for a cruise and not just a tour.

Carolyn

How do you know all of this if you haven't been aboard? I would actually like to see Celebrity do something exceptional, but I just have to wonder?

[Maya-Tucker]

[quote=editor@cruisecritic;9950082]Hi, Maya. The information I'm sharing is info I got while onboard last Sunday while Celebrity Journey was in drydock in Freeport. While the ship was in the midst of its refurbishment efforts. So while I most emphatically was onboard -- and it's worthy of mention that Cruise Critic was the only media outlet allowed this access -- I have not yet cruised on the ship (no one has; it's not yet launched). So my reporting is based on what I'm seeing at this point....

Does that clarify?


Carolyn

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Editor
Cruise Critic


Just one question.........Have you sailed Oceania to compare??(I think this a ligt. question at this point)

[Maya-Tucker]

I actually appreciate that you took the time to debate me on this whole subject. And I also love C.C. for this reaon, If C.C. wasn't here then none of us would ever get this info. But have you been on Oceania and can you compare? I especially want to know but i"m sure alot of others that read this board would also like to know.

Regards,

Sherry

[Host Sheila]

Here's a link to Carolyn's review of the Nautica
http://www.cruisecritic.com/reviews/review.cfm?ShipID=346

[Maya-Tucker]

Here's a link to Carolyn's review of the Nautica
http://www.cruisecritic.com/reviews/review.cfm?ShipID=346

OK got it..............but it was still a great debate I had going (I was debate captain in college) couldn't help it.

[mike@sea]

First of all I would like to thank cruise critic for all the info provided so far. It is more than I had hoped for and I truely can´t wait to see your photos and get to read more of your first hand information. Two thumbs up!!!! That´s why I think you are the best source for any cruise related information worldwide!
I also can´t believe how patient and polite you are with some of the readers here. Some people really behave very childish and /or snobby. No other board has so many "strange" comments... ;-)

With so many big cruise ships in place today, I think it is easy to find the right ship for every kind of traveller. Even if you want to stick to "your" cruise company it is quite easy, because most companies offer you a wide range of ship types and routings.
You can clearly see that cruise lines make the most money with mega ships 3500 passengers and up. That´s why I think one should really honor that Celebrity is trying something new with the Journey and the Quest. The cabins are not really that expensive on most routes and there are not too many ways to squeeze money out of the passengers on these ships in contrary to the big ones.
I personally think that is great. Looks like the emphasize on these ships lies on giving more service to the passenger and not only on money making.

No kids on board - :-))))! I love it. Sorry folks, no offense to families, but there are so many other ships out there for you, why complain that you cannot use these two? Your kids would hate it anyway, because they would be bored. So why bother?

[pilewski]

with only about a week left until it's maiden voyage, celebrity has not posted any new info about journey yet. i wonder when they will do this.

just because X has no dedicated children's programs doesn't mean that there will not be kids on board.

[editor@cruisecritic]

And let me rundown my experiences on R class vessels. Two cruises on Renaissance (R1 and R2) during the time it operated. One on Swan Hellenic (sad to see them go -- it was wonderful). One on Tahitian Princess. Two on Oceania (Insignia and Nautica, both fantastic). I feel like there's more but that's what I'm coming up with at the moment....

I think I said it earlier -- but these are my favorite ships at sea. Absolute favorites.

Carolyn

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Editor
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[quote=editor@cruisecritic;9950082]Hi, Maya. The information I'm sharing is info I got while onboard last Sunday while Celebrity Journey was in drydock in Freeport. While the ship was in the midst of its refurbishment efforts. So while I most emphatically was onboard -- and it's worthy of mention that Cruise Critic was the only media outlet allowed this access -- I have not yet cruised on the ship (no one has; it's not yet launched). So my reporting is based on what I'm seeing at this point....

Does that clarify?


Carolyn

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Editor
Cruise Critic


Just one question.........Have you sailed Oceania to compare??(I think this a ligt. question at this point)

[Mr. Tucker]

I think I said it earlier -- but these are my favorite ships at sea. Absolute favorites.

Carolyn

Carolyn Spencer Brown
Editor
Cruise Critic

They have become my favorite as well as Mrs. Tuckers whom you had the pleasure of "debating" with last evening. I had hoped Oceania would have gotten these two "R" ships instead of Celebrity to add to their fleet. I am anxious to hear/see your report of what Celebrity has done with them as you are very familiar with this class of ship.

Since Oceania did not get these two ships they have two new-builds planned/underway that are going to be in the 1200 passenger range and only time will tell if they will be able to maintain their level of service with these extra large (for them) ships.

[editor@cruisecritic]

Thanks, Mike, for the nice words. And I'm in total agreement :)

I see you live in Germany. Know this is off topic but have you ever cruised on AIDA? If you have any insights...will you email me at editor@cruisecritic.com (editor@cruisecritic.com)? If not, no worries.

Carolyn

Carolyn Spencer Brown
Editor
Cruise Critic



First of all I would like to thank cruise critic for all the info provided so far. It is more than I had hoped for and I truely can´t wait to see your photos and get to read more of your first hand information. Two thumbs up!!!! That´s why I think you are the best source for any cruise related information worldwide!
I also can´t believe how patient and polite you are with some of the readers here. Some people really behave very childish and /or snobby. No other board has so many "strange" comments... ;-)

With so many big cruise ships in place today, I think it is easy to find the right ship for every kind of traveller. Even if you want to stick to "your" cruise company it is quite easy, because most companies offer you a wide range of ship types and routings.
You can clearly see that cruise lines make the most money with mega ships 3500 passengers and up. That´s why I think one should really honor that Celebrity is trying something new with the Journey and the Quest. The cabins are not really that expensive on most routes and there are not too many ways to squeeze money out of the passengers on these ships in contrary to the big ones.
I personally think that is great. Looks like the emphasize on these ships lies on giving more service to the passenger and not only on money making.

No kids on board - :-))))! I love it. Sorry folks, no offense to families, but there are so many other ships out there for you, why complain that you cannot use these two? Your kids would hate it anyway, because they would be bored. So why bother?

[JORAY]

Some of the pictures and an Article that we all have been waiting for by Carolyn :eek:


http://www.cruisecritic.com/features/articles.cfm?ID=444


Ray

[dcbiker97]

Carolyn- Great pictures and article. It is making me even more excited about our 10/13 sailing. Is it possible to upload the high quality pictures that you took to the website?

[cabo de hornos]

Thank you so much for posting the progress report on Journey. The videos were very interesting, but unfortunately were a bit tough for distinguishing the conversation above the background noise.....but I caught most everything. And it's clear you were having a blast!!!

We'll be on Journey in October for the 14-day repo (not far from that hole in the fence on Deck 8)....did you get my e-mail with the answer to your trivia question?

Best

Cabo (Gary)

[JORAY]

Thank you so much for posting the progress report on Journey. The videos were very interesting, but unfortunately were a bit tough for distinguishing the conversation above the background noise.....but I caught most everything. And it's clear you were having a blast!!!

We'll be on Journey in October for the 14-day repo (not far from that hole in the fence on Deck 8)....did you get my e-mail with the answer to your trivia question?

Best
Cabo (Gary)

She has a winner -- First 3 were incorrect the 4TH one in won and I was 5 min. behind her -- It was the hole in 8088 PH window (top left) so they could move things in to ship. I shouldn't have taken time to tell my cruise friends where the pictures where -- Oh well I didn't need a T shirt anyway.

Ray

[jumponboard]

Carolyn, thanks for the great article. It certainly has us more excited than ever about our upcoming Oct 27th cruise. Thanks to Cruise Critic for this breaking info. Job well done! :)

I 'm sure that in the coming weeks Cruise Critic will be the channel that will have the breaking news on Journey as many CC folks will soon take the maiden voyage under the celebrity banner and we look forward with anticipation to the feedback from CC cruisers on board.

Thanks again

jumponboard

[cjgrammy]

Hi Carolyn,
Thanks for the great write-up on Journey. It made us a little more excited for our May 26th cruise. The Pictures are also great.:)
Arlene

[sailing sal]

The cruise critic feature for Journey was great! We sail with 6 other family adult members on the June 23rd cruise. We are so excited. It will be our 5th trip to Bermuda and we love the port stops. We are awaiting to hear the reviews of all of the early cruisers. Have fun and bon Voyage!:)

[Host Sheila]

Carolyn,
Kudos for a job well done. Can't wait for the next installment after your May 4th look. You are the best!

[editor@cruisecritic]

PS I was wrong about the dining times below. It's 6 - 9:30 p.m. Sorry!

Carolyn

Carolyn Spencer Brown
Editor
Cruise Critic



...but from 6:30 p.m. - 9:30 p.m.

That's not too late....

We'll be offering all sorts of details in our Closer Look...now have to go back to it so we can finish -- and launch it!

Also, once you've read it if you still have questions, feel free to drop me a note at editor@cruisecritic.com (editor@cruisecritic.com). I'll do my best to offer answers.

Carolyn


Carolyn Spencer Brown
Editor
Cruise Critic

[editor@cruisecritic]

Gosh, I haven't a clue. But drop a note to Dan@cruisecritic.com (Dan@cruisecritic.com), tell him I suggested you do so and ask if it's possible. Thanks for the nice words.

Carolyn

Carolyn Spencer Brown
Editor
Cruise Critic

Carolyn- Great pictures and article. It is making me even more excited about our 10/13 sailing. Is it possible to upload the high quality pictures that you took to the website?

[editor@cruisecritic]

Hi. Yeah, the video audio wasn't great and didn't really add much but I thought it was fun just to give the ambience. We're still in early stages on the video concept and hopefully practice will make us better, LOL.

Yes, the trivia question was won ... by SueClark. I was amazed that literally minutes after the story went up the answers started coming in. Y'all are quick! The answer: Cabin 8088's balcony was cut away to allow for transferring new suite bathroom units from shore to ship, via crane.

Carolyn

Carolyn Spencer Brown
Editor
Cruise Critic

Thank you so much for posting the progress report on Journey. The videos were very interesting, but unfortunately were a bit tough for distinguishing the conversation above the background noise.....but I caught most everything. And it's clear you were having a blast!!!

We'll be on Journey in October for the 14-day repo (not far from that hole in the fence on Deck 8)....did you get my e-mail with the answer to your trivia question?

Best

Cabo (Gary)

[mringenoldus]

Thanks for posting about the only new information I have found on the Journey!! We are looking forward to trying a new line and a new type of cruise experience!

We are on the October 6 Bermuda sailing and have the last two balcony cabins on the starboard side. Were you able to get any impressions of the standard balcony cabins in terms of size or decor?

It seems amazing that the ship will be ready in a very short time.

Maureen

[MaryJean56]

Carolyn, thanks for the great article and photos. I am happy to say that we will be on the first sailing. It sure looks like they have a lot to do between now and next Saturday when we will be boarding her.:)

[celebrityfan65]

The reason some of us are concerned about the kids programs is that we were originally booked on the Zenith and then switched to the Journey. We were ensured that there will be kids programs so that is why we did not cancel. It is now too late to book another cruise with the accomodations that we desire. If Celebrity had been upfront with our concerns back when they did the switch we would have cancelled and went on another kid friendly cruise.

[editor@cruisecritic]

I totally hear you on this -- and you are right.... Celebrity should have been clear. Not apologizing for them -- and frankly think they need to make good on this issue (either move folks to other ships or put on a couple counselors for the Bermuda sailings). For those traveling without kids, I suspect the experience on Celebrity Journey, particularly once the Bermuda obligation is completed, will be special. On the other hand, those with kids will have to make do.

But here's my question and forgive me for asking it and yes, my husband and I don't have kids (though we both brought nieces, nephews, and godchildren to our marriage and I have traveled with all and sundry). Is it so awful that kids don't have a camp for the two days they are at sea? Is it so awful that they might have to rely on own devices (books, iPods, imagination, hanging out with --sacrilege -- their family) to survive the two days?

I don't really understand ... how that can be so difficult. I grew up traveling all over the U.S. with my family (parents, four other siblings) and we didn't have kids programs and such. We managed to survive:)

The other five days of course can be filled with activity in Bermuda.

Carolyn

Carolyn Spencer Brown
Editor
Cruise Critic


The reason some of us are concerned about the kids programs is that we were originally booked on the Zenith and then switched to the Journey. We were ensured that there will be kids programs so that is why we did not cancel. It is now too late to book another cruise with the accomodations that we desire. If Celebrity had been upfront with our concerns back when they did the switch we would have cancelled and went on another kid friendly cruise.

[Host Sheila]

FYI, last summer we cruised to Alaska with our married children and their children - 5 kids (age range 7-14). The kids tried the Kids Club for one or two days and then found that they thoroughly enjoyed each other (cousins) and some other children that they met onboard. The early teens went to a few teen activities but opted out of most of them and enjoyed playing trivia, and, of all things, shuffle board, with each other and the adults. They also, on their own borrowed a Scrabble board from Guest Relations and teamed up (young with a bit older) and enjoyed several hours of board games. My point is that they had a blast and didn't need the kids club to do it.

I, too, understand your disappointment, but I'll bet it will be a good trip for everyone!

[celebrityfan65]

I here all of you about the kids making their own fun. This is what our group has decided to do. It's just a disappointment to some of the kids who have cruised before and know what was available to them. When they have organized activities it is a way for the kids to meet other on board. We have decided to bring some of our own games and plan to do whatever is available to them. My frustration is mostly with Celebrity because they were not upfront with us at the time when we were switched and we would have booked with another cruise line.

[editor@cruisecritic]

Hi, Maureen. Aside from the photo we showed -- with a taupe kind of nylon headboard material (apparently more sanitary, how romantic is that, LOL) the cabins weren't even touched at the time I visited. So we're both curious. Those hideous cots and army blankets will be gone....

From my experience on the R-class ships, I will say that standard cabins are on the small side. They're small. The balconies are a necessary accouterment, LOL, especially if you're traveling with DH. They give you an extra room.

That's the biggest downside of the R-series ships.

On the other hand, if you can book a suite, this is the time to do it. I've cruised both in standard balconies (once for two weeks, I got used to it) and in suites (never the best suite, always what was called the B Suite but the B is fantastic, just perfect, about a cabin and a half wide, with a bathroom with tub). Tub's important to me. So on this ship I'd splurge. Whether you cruise with Oceania, Princess or Celebrity. I'd splurge. But you may not feel that necessary.

Definitely the addition of mini-fridge and flat screen -- that's a step up from Oceania which otherwise has updated these ships quite beautifully. The butler concept...think it'll undergo some tweaking between concept and execution (my way of saying I think Celebrity's concept is not necessarily workable).

I will be touring the ship on Friday so please, please, send me any questions to my email address (and put May 4 - Journey) in subject line.

Carolyn

Carolyn Spencer Brown
Editor
Cruise Critic



Thanks for posting about the only new information I have found on the Journey!! We are looking forward to trying a new line and a new type of cruise experience!

We are on the October 6 Bermuda sailing and have the last two balcony cabins on the starboard side. Were you able to get any impressions of the standard balcony cabins in terms of size or decor?

It seems amazing that the ship will be ready in a very short time.

Maureen

[mringenoldus]

Thanks, Carolyn! I would have loved to have booked a suite - but the 2A category included the airfare special so we will have to be satisfied with the space.

Have a great time on your trip!
Maureen

[1cruiselvr]

Carolyn,
I'm a dummy and can't figure out how to email my Journey question so I'm hoping you are still checking this thread before Friday.
I'd like to know if Celebrity removed the self-laundry room on Deck Seven. It was there as a Ren ship and it would be nice to know if you can count on doing your own laundry if necessary. Thanks!

[Dolphins]

All the information you provided is greatly appreciated. We are so happy we booked a sky suite which is one of the new ones that were installed on deck 8. Looking forward to hearing the impressions of the inaugural cruisers.

[JORAY]

1cruiselvr

Just in case Carolyn does not see your question I put it on the thread that is coming up with questions that the first cruiser on the Journey will try to answer.

http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=539748

I think the plans are to put the answers on a new thread to clean it up.

Ray

[editor@cruisecritic]

I felt guilty. Sue (the winner, a friend of Ray's) felt guilty. So we had two winners, LOL.

Your excitement about this ship, added to my own, is just wonderful and inspiring.

Carolyn



She has a winner -- First 3 were incorrect the 4TH one in won and I was 5 min. behind her -- It was the hole in 8088 PH window (top left) so they could move things in to ship. I shouldn't have taken time to tell my cruise friends where the pictures where -- Oh well I didn't need a T shirt anyway.

Ray

[editor@cruisecritic]

Have to say that there are times when a standard balcony cabin is just wonderful.

But on these ships it's particuarly worth the investment to suite level because the standards are, frankly, small. Royal Caribbean-older-ship-small. I spent two weeks in a standard balcony cabin on the one-time R-series Swan Hellenic's Minerva II (now Royal Princess) and I was ALONE and at the end it was too small. That's small, LOL.

Now for the normal cruise with spouse or pal, when you're both busy going this way and that...small doesn't matter so much. But on a longer trip, when you need some down time, it does matter. And for me a bathtub (vs. tiny, miniscule horrific shower, LOL) really does make a difference.

So on any R-series ship, whatever the line, I, personally, would pay the extra dosh for more space. But that's just me.

Carolyn



All the information you provided is greatly appreciated. We are so happy we booked a sky suite which is one of the new ones that were installed on deck 8. Looking forward to hearing the impressions of the inaugural cruisers.

[editor@cruisecritic]

you guys, appreciate your kind words....

Carolyn



Carolyn,
Kudos for a job well done. Can't wait for the next installment after your May 4th look. You are the best!

[editor@cruisecritic]

I got an email, Mary Jean, from one of the on site Celebrity Journey "refurbishment masters" and he said, as of yesterday, that on his daily walk through the ship...that it was finally starting to look like a ship". That's good!

I for one am excited about Friday (stay tuned; the story -- a sneak preview -- will be posted around dinner time and a before and after photo piece will go up on Monday or Tuesday). The ship is on its way as we speak....

Carolyn


Carolyn, thanks for the great article and photos. I am happy to say that we will be on the first sailing. It sure looks like they have a lot to do between now and next Saturday when we will be boarding her.:)

[editor@cruisecritic]

hmmm, you are sharp! Royal Caribbean doesn't do 'em (laundry rooms; I suspect there's not enough of a profit center there, ugh). I frankly find it a downside to recommending them as a family-oriented line when they don't offer DIY laundry. Alas.

I'll ask.

Carolyn





Carolyn,
I'm a dummy and can't figure out how to email my Journey question so I'm hoping you are still checking this thread before Friday.
I'd like to know if Celebrity removed the self-laundry room on Deck Seven. It was there as a Ren ship and it would be nice to know if you can count on doing your own laundry if necessary. Thanks!

[icecreammama]

hi carolyn
we are on the maiden voyage on may 5th. We have a royal suite. While you were on the ship, did you see these rooms? Are they a nice size for 2 people? How is the balcony? Can't wait for this cruise. Just hope they spruced up the decor in the rooms. thanks

[Conraddad]

Hello fellow Journey cruisers,

We are sailing 5/19 in PH suite 8088. Can't wait. We kept wondering (before Carolyn's great pictorial) why there was a hole cut out of our balcony. I thought, "great, a better way to get sun..just don't fall off."

[1cruiselvr]

I have stayed in both when these ships were Ren owned. I know they are redoing deck 8 which probably means the SS will be even bigger. I agree with Carolyn that SS is much bigger and if money is not a concern, then I would definitely pick it over 1/2As. However, for our Quest trip that means spending an additional $2000 and as much as I'd like the extra room and a bathtub vs. a shower only, I'm going to stick with the 1A guarantee we have booked. It's small but not as small as the RCI inside cabin we had once - 2 steps after entering the cabin and you were at the edge of the bed. It was like somebody put a bed in a small walk-in closet. We still had fun. Happy Sailing!

[dabear]

Having been on the Tahitian Princess, thank god there covering the pool deck w/ teak (to avoid hot foot). Having been on the Regatta, glad there copying many O traits w X touches. I'm also glad they are expanding the casino and hoping for a craps table One other comment re balcony room sizes, they are comparable to the size of non cc class balcony rooms on the Millie class ships, but the bath rooms are smaller.

[JORAY]

Conraddad Hello fellow Journey cruisers,
We are sailing 5/19 in PH suite 8088. Can't wait. We kept wondering (before Carolyn's great pictorial) why there was a hole cut out of our balcony. I thought, "great, a better way to get sun..just don't fall off."

I hope you will post pictures and a report on 8088 as we have it booked for the 2-27-08 Antarctic 18 day cruise and one of our friends have 8091 and another has a SV between us.

Ray

[JORAY]

I felt guilty. Sue (the winner, a friend of Ray's) felt guilty. So we had two winners, LOL.

Your excitement about this ship, added to my own, is just wonderful and inspiring.

Carolyn


Thank you! :cool: Carolyn

You don't have to do that and it is very nice of you.

Of course, now I can't blackmail my friend into buying me a drink :( LOL

Ray

[hiseas5]

I will be on the July 7 sailing of the Journey. After reading the discussion on the kids programs or lack thereof I sent an email to Celebrity. I received a reply from a Deborah Chau, Customer Service Representative. She said that the Journey will have a kids program in place. Details are supposed to be placed on thier website soon.

[editor@cruisecritic]

No, I didn't get any sense of cabin refurbishment because, on my visit, it just hadn't gotten started. You'll have to wait until May 4th! Except that of course you're cruising the next day!

I imagine -- again, can't promise -- that the Royal Suites are one of the newly constructed ones so they should be gorgeous.

Regardless, all cabins will get spruced up decor. As you could see from the A Closer Look -- the reupholstered loveseats being stored all over the place -- are just indication of upgrading; others include new color schemes and soft goods, tech toys (flat screen tvs and fridges), and new beds.

Carolyn


hi carolyn
we are on the maiden voyage on may 5th. We have a royal suite. While you were on the ship, did you see these rooms? Are they a nice size for 2 people? How is the balcony? Can't wait for this cruise. Just hope they spruced up the decor in the rooms. thanks

[editor@cruisecritic]

And that was your cabin! The answer to the question has been added to the story intro (look for our "editor's note"). Conraddad, you'll have to let us know if you can see where they cut the steel on your balcony -- and where they sewed it back up.

Carolyn


Hello fellow Journey cruisers,

We are sailing 5/19 in PH suite 8088. Can't wait. We kept wondering (before Carolyn's great pictorial) why there was a hole cut out of our balcony. I thought, "great, a better way to get sun..just don't fall off."

[gkm]

Carolyn, reading your posts have made me nervous enough to change my cabin on the Quest. We had a SV but get the impression it's rather small so have upgraded to a Sky Suite. I think for a spring transatlantic cruise we'll be more comfortable.

Thanks for all the valuable information you're sharing with us about these ships. I'll be waiting with anticipation for feedback from the Journey's first sailing.

Garry

[Jancruz]

Hi Carolyn,
I am on the last day of a 35 day trip on Nautica and everyone sends regards from here!!!
I loved your article about Journey..and seeing pictures of my friend David Kelly was treat..
I have heard a few more things via email about Journey..Smoking policy will be the same as Oceania...only in the Looking Glass Lounge in one area and on the pool deck in one area..it seems to me that since this is a new policy for Celebrity they may have a problem enforcing this since so many passengers were booked on it as a smoking ship..also..Suite Passengers will have 2 free dinners at the alternative restaurants..basic menu only and any other passengers will get 1 free dinner..
I will be on Journey myself on 9/1 so will be happy to come back and give a full report..If you see David Kelly on Fiday, please send regards...
Jan
*************

[1cruiselvr]

Good decision. SV is the same size cabin as a 1/2A only slightly bigger balcony with a forward or aft view. You will love a SS and be very happy that you upgraded. Happy Sailing!

[Mr. Tucker]

I have heard a few more things via email about Journey..Smoking policy will be the same as Oceania...only in the Looking Glass Lounge in one area and on the pool deck in one area

I'm all for it but if they try and start this on the first Journey cruise there will be a mutiny. I imagine this will come as quite a shock to people already booked if they find they can only smoke in two locations on the entire ship.

Encouraging news but somehow I doubt that Celebrity will be able to pull this off without first giving prior notice.

It is rather strange in this day and age that most cruise lines still allow smoking in all rooms. If hotels can do it, surely Celebrity can come up with non-smoking rooms.

[pepsicruiser]

Thanks for this thread. I have learned alot about Journey and am now changing my reservation from RCCL Empress to Journey for Bermuda cruise in Sept. Right now the only question I have is what is this "Butler" I read about. Is he a glorified cabin steward? Will he do anything else out of the ordinary? TY and looking forward to more info on this new ship.

[LHT28]

I guess all will be revealed in a few more days!!
:D

[1cruiselvr]

Nobody really knows Maybe it's the title given to the sr. cabin steward. On some CLs, you have an assistant cabin steward and the sr cabin steward. So I could see X calling the sr CS a butler instead. Happy Sailing!

[bondy]

I understand that the Journey and Zenith were berthed next to each other in Nassau

[cjgrammy]

I met someone tonight whose grandchild is in a local school band and is playing tomorrow night in Bayonne for Celebrity cruises. Must be the Journey.:D

Arlene

[editor@cruisecritic]

Hi, Jan. And please, my regards to the folks on Nautica. I loved that ship and I love the line....

Frankly, I'm such a fan of Oceania that to see any other cruise line attempt to compete...well, that's great. Just reinforces the fact that Oceania has a uniquely successful recipe, so to speak. And the more folks who get turned on by great food/great service/ideally sized ship... means there's more business for everyone, right?

But of course Insignia and Nautica have an extra special place in my heart :)

And I hope you are well....

Carolyn

Hi Carolyn,
I am on the last day of a 35 day trip on Nautica and everyone sends regards from here!!!
I loved your article about Journey..and seeing pictures of my friend David Kelly was treat..
I have heard a few more things via email about Journey..Smoking policy will be the same as Oceania...only in the Looking Glass Lounge in one area and on the pool deck in one area..it seems to me that since this is a new policy for Celebrity they may have a problem enforcing this since so many passengers were booked on it as a smoking ship..also..Suite Passengers will have 2 free dinners at the alternative restaurants..basic menu only and any other passengers will get 1 free dinner..
I will be on Journey myself on 9/1 so will be happy to come back and give a full report..If you see David Kelly on Fiday, please send regards...
Jan
*************

[pilewski]

ok, some 24 hours before she is set to sail and we still have nothing from celebrity about journey. not one little picture or tidbit of information. if i were booked on her maiden voyage i'd be pretty mad. this is poor planning on the line's part.

[PSCruiser]

Wondering if the Journey is even at Cape Liberty right now? Just watched the CBS Early Show, where the weather guy was broadcasting live from the new Liberty OTS that had just arrived. In the helicopter shots there did not appear to be any other ships close by.
I'm hoping that the Journey will still be going to Bermuda, and not pressed into service as the dingy for the Liberty !!!

[mringenoldus]

This may be a fairly clever marketing approach since they have everyone talking about the ship. Maybe the mystery is peaking interest even more?

Information on the amenities, staterooms and public areas is available - just not photos of the finished product.

[kevin and susan]

Wondering if the Journey is even at Cape Liberty right now? Just watched the CBS Early Show, where the weather guy was broadcasting live from the new Liberty OTS that had just arrived. In the helicopter shots there did not appear to be any other ships close by.


A friend of mine went to Bayonne on thursday to get some pictures of the Liberty OTS and said he "thought" he saw the Journey docked further up the channel.

sue

[PSCruiser]

Well!!!!, possibly the reason the Journey is being kept out of sight - no Celebrity X on the stack - instead the Azamara Logo and paint!

[LHT28]

http://rccl.bridgetrack.com//07/azamara/the-azamara-experience/the-azamara-experience.htm

New division of RCCL?

[JkyLovesRuss]

http://rccl.bridgetrack.com//07/azamara/the-azamara-experience/the-azamara-experience.htm

New division of RCCL?


I feel like I just hit the lottery! whoah! sounds magnificent... and it is a great announcement! :D I wish them well and hope they have everything down to a "T" when we go in August!;)

[kevin and susan]

Well!!!!, possibly the reason the Journey is being kept out of sight - no Celebrity X on the stack - instead the Azamara Logo and paint!

Exactly and that is why we were unsure if the ship he saw was the Journey or not. It also explains why there has been almost no information or pictures available.

sue

[Nutrioso]

You know, this almost feels as good as a free upgrade! Like a bonus given to us because we're old and loyal clientelle. Yahoooo! I can hardly wait.