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ekerr19
July 16th, 2004, 08:41 PM
A significant amount! :)
Given all the great recommendations about *********** on these boards, I decided to give them a try... first I pulled quotes from HAL's web-site (highest) then requested one from my regular, full-service TA in Seattle, then did the *********** quote...
For two cabins (5 people) on the Volendam sailing 3/20/05 - our regular TA's price was $834 lower than ***********! We are looking at a triple "BB" and an inside "I" category... This price does not include any shipboard credit we always receive from our TA...
I think I'll stick with them! We are pretty happy about the price and will go ahead and book it -
KAKcruiser
July 16th, 2004, 09:38 PM
I have booked twice with Cruise Quick and it was a great experience. However, they do not always have the best price. I don't think any one agency can have the best price every single time. You do have to check around. I think the main advantage of Cruise Quick is that they are very efficient and reliable. When they have the best price, I book through them.
superstein61
July 16th, 2004, 11:02 PM
I agree that no one agency has the best price every time. I always check about 10 different ones - and invariably find bargains at different agencies each time
hdawson
July 16th, 2004, 11:07 PM
I recall readding here a couple of months ago that for a while, CQ was not booking HAL temporarily. Never did hear why the suspension.
ekerr19
July 16th, 2004, 11:13 PM
I'm curious about something... we have always used a full service TA - not always the same one - but we've been with our current agency the past 5 - 6 cruises.
I always shop around online - when I see a lower published fare for the same sailing, I print it and fax it to my TA. She then researches the validity - we've found the majority of published fares that are lower, are in fact errrors - but once, we did find one significantly lower, HAL verified is was correct and we got the lower fare.
My question is this - does anyone have experience with booking on *********** where the fare was reduced from their initial quote? Did *********** pass along those savings if you made them aware of the price decrease? Was it easy?
This is a big thing for me - we've always got the lowest published price on our cruise and if I were to book with *********** at some time in the future, I'm curious how easy it might be to get a fare reduction (or if its even an option).
MISSYLOU
July 16th, 2004, 11:20 PM
I just booked the Veendam with ***********. They gave me a fare $350 lower than what they had published on their website. Later booked a second cabin and the quote was for the website fare. Replied back and told them we are Mariners and should be entitled to the same fare as our original booking and they came back with the reduced fare. Never hurts to ask.
ekerr19
July 16th, 2004, 11:27 PM
I just booked the Veendam with ***********. They gave me a fare $350 lower than what they had published on their website. Later booked a second cabin and the quote was for the website fare. Replied back and told them we are Mariners and should be entitled to the same fare as our original booking and they came back with the reduced fare. Never hurts to ask.
Missylou-
Thanks for your post - I'm curious though, we had to get an email quote from ***********, they did not have any fares published on their site... am I doing something wrong?
Their price beat HAL's published by about 10% - but that's all - we even gave them our mariner number, so we should have gotten the mariner pricing...
MISSYLOU
July 16th, 2004, 11:40 PM
ekerr: When you go to CQ, on the left hand side lists all of the cruise lines. I clicked on Holland and saw a listing for the Veendam for Nov of 2005. I clicked on it and it showed all of the cabin categories with pricing. Clicked on the button that says "book this cabin" and it brought up the usual page for a quote which I filled out. We are also over the age of 55.
Anyway I had a quote from another online agent and asked CQ to match it. they not only matched it but were $50 less than the other agent. So where the original quote for 2 was around $3300. They came back with of a price of $2938. They claim they will reduce prices if the fare comes down but on this particular cruise the balcony cabins are sailing fast and and I doubt that HAL will reduce the fares since they are filling up so early and the cruise is still 15 months off.
Golfgrl1911
July 16th, 2004, 11:55 PM
The suggestion I have that worked for me and got me a great rate is by researching the rates on different websites then going to *************.com. Announce the best price and ask if they can match or beat the best price.....you'd be suprised at the rates you will be offered. Choose the best price and BOOK!!! Good Luck!!
ekerr19
July 16th, 2004, 11:58 PM
Missylou-
Thanks for your help! Sounds like you got a good deal! Have you sailed on the Veendam? It is my husband's favorite, a beautiful ship.
Sounds like *********** may have some specials - listed on the side of their web page... I will have to try it and see what we get.
I'm not sure anyone will be able to beat a savings of $834 - especially since we'll get at least $150 shipboard credit from our TA.
We'll see...
ekerr19
July 16th, 2004, 11:59 PM
The suggestion I have that worked for me and got me a great rate is by researching the rates on different websites then going to *************.com. Announce the best price and ask if they can match or beat the best price.....you'd be suprised at the rates you will be offered. Choose the best price and BOOK!!! Good Luck!!
I will have to check that one out... thanks!
shakespeare
July 17th, 2004, 12:30 AM
I have had my price reduced by Cruise Quick. Just emailed them with the lower fare that was being offered and they sent me a revised invoice. For the cruises I have booked with them, they were the lowest I found after a lot of research. They temporarily stopped booking HAL cruises because HAL was not giving them the same pricing they were giving other agencies. Since they are again booking with HAL, they apparently have resolved the issue.
I have had excellent service and pricing from Cruise Quick. Emails are answered promptly and they make every effort to give you what you ask for. I have transferred a booking to them, made cabin changes, submitted coupons, etc....all with no problems. Their service is not for everyone...some people do not like having only email contact, but I have been more than satisfied with them. I find it nice to have everything in writing...no confusion that way.
alexMD
July 17th, 2004, 12:40 AM
I always check several websites (sometimes up to 10) that I have in a folder in my "Favorites". I also check with my local "full service" TA. It pays to compare.
Some quotes are incredibly good, such that they make me suspect that either 1) the cruise line gives out a few ridiculously low-priced cabins to certain TA's as an incentive or 2) certain TA's hold certain cabins when their price hits rock bottom, and keep them until they sell them.
In any case, I'm not really sure what a "Full Service" TA does for me that an internet TA does not do. Most of the time, the internet TAs are available longer hours, give lower prices, and seem to have more time for me than the local shops.
MISSYLOU
July 17th, 2004, 12:45 AM
ekerr: Seems to me the most important thing is that if you feel you got the best deal from your TA that is all that matters. It's just good that we all share information on where to get the best prices.
joanagain
July 17th, 2004, 02:02 AM
i have read so much good advise on these boards that i hope some of it will stick with me when i make our next booking
...because we had used cq in the past and been able to resolve booking problems that came up, with them, to our satisfaction...i was quick to jump at the cq offer, for our next booking nov 3...but my concern was that i make my booking before the rush...(i think i booked 10 months in advance) and did not check out the available cabins but trusted cq to find the best compartment for me (...and how would they know?)...that was outside and big..., i accepted their suggest b133... and could not wait to make my final payment...
then i noticed the mariners med 7 category upgrade promo...by this time, cabins above b were sold out and i was told i was already paying less than HAL was now asking for th remaining categories...
next time, i hope i cover all the basis before i rush to give HAL my $$$.
but at the end of the day, i am just glad to be on the "boat."
MISSYLOU
July 17th, 2004, 02:34 AM
joanagain: How was cabin B133? I have that cabin booked? Now that you mention it, I forgot all about the category upgrades. I'll have to look into that. Thanks for the reminder.
Randyk47
July 17th, 2004, 10:54 AM
There is no magical answer for where always to get the lowest price/best deal. I'm using Cruise Quick for my next cruise but who knows after that. Could be I'll be back to my long time TA, could be another one of the Internet based agencies, or it could be the cruise only store front down the street from my house. Seems to me that some agencies have better arrangements with some cruise lines and can get better rates for any given cruise. Doesn't appear to be universal though and changes from cruise to cruise. All I can suggest is do your research and look/ask for quotes. I figure TA's are there to provide me with a service and part of that service includes the lowest fare with reasonable support. As much as I like my real live TA, and she's been booking cruises for me for 10 years, it's still business and not personal.
Charlie2na
July 17th, 2004, 12:40 PM
ZERO TO CRUISE...{02CRUISE.COM} CHEAPER BY 50.00 PP ON MY LAST PURCHASE..01/16/05 Maasdam
jetfixer03
July 18th, 2004, 02:02 AM
I'm working on booking my 3rd cruise now and I have a question regarding the internet vs. conventional TA as far as upgrades go. I shop for most stuff on the internet, and I did my last 2 cruises online...went well. I'm wondering if some of you seasoned cruisers have an opinion on weather you've gotten better upgrades with a conventional TA? I got a tip on a TA that really works hard to get upgrades, and I'm wondering if I might be better off in the long run, even if the rate isn't quite as low as some internet quotes. I know this isn't a black and white answer, of course it woudl depend on how much the price difference is, and I know there is a big element of luck involved. Just looking for general opinions.
BTW....I just discovered this site..and it's great!!
Thanks,
Chris J
Randyk47
July 18th, 2004, 09:10 AM
Ah yes.....the Upgrade Fairy. What a fickle and mysterious wonder. Seems to me that there are times, or more properly cruises, where the Fairy runs around throwing upgrades out like beads at Mardi Gras. And if not an upgrade then some amount of on-board credit is sprinkled on a selected few. What wonderful wonders! Look around the board and you'll read great stories about moving from over the props to the Penthouse Suite....OK...maybe not quite that far but who knows what magic can happen. Then there are cruises where the Fairy is nowhere to be seen or heard from. Hooray for the former and boo on the latter. Truth be there is no way to tell if the Upgrade Fairy is going to appear or not. Certainly the best chances for upgrade are for those who have booked the least expensive cabins, say for instance some inside cabin on a lower deck. It's kind of a matter of geometry......the higher up in the pyramid of cabins you get the fewer chances there are for upgrade. The downside is that if you book a lower category cabin, when you really want a verandah cabin midships, and the Fairy doesn't appear then you may get stuck with it. The more philosophical here simply say "Well....I'm on the cruise and that's really all I care about". Others, though not many, come here and whine that they counted on an upgrade and it didn't happen. The truth is that this board probably represents several thousands cruises a year and only a few get upgrades. Book what you want and what you'll be happy with and don't look back with regret if you don't get visited by the Upgrade Fairy.
gizmo
July 18th, 2004, 11:17 AM
Here is something to think about. What is an internet TA? Many TA's now days have internet sites and some are even full service, where some are cruise only. There are some that are email only like CQ and others you can talk to a real person on the phone.
The TA I have used the past couple of years was found through a cruise magazine before the internet was loaded with them. They had a web site but did not have on line pricing. There are many out there where you can talk to a person on the phone. Would you consider these TA's as on line TA's?
torpeedo
July 18th, 2004, 11:50 AM
We have used CQ and when there was a reduction in price ( even after we had made our final payment) we received a great upgrade thanks to CQ.
Before we discovered the world of online booking we had booked a cruise with a local TA in the mall. We discovered an online price approx $100 pp lower and went to our TA and asked them if they could meet the price or do an upgrade or onboard credit. They just would do nothing and basically said just go ahead and cancel if you want to. We would lose $$ if we canceled so we just went ahead with the cruise but learned a good lesson there. Next cruise was online and every cruise thereafter has been online booking. We do our homework before booking by shopping multiple online agencies that are reputable. Some cruise lines have better associations with particular agencies than others. Depends on who you want to cruise with. Some agencies are tighter with their commissions. I know that not all TA's treat their customers like we were treated but it just got us to move off the dime and do more homework on our own. Too bad that TA did not make some effort to help because they lost a good customer who cruises 2-3 times a year. :p
HeatherInFlorida
July 18th, 2004, 01:54 PM
I recall readding here a couple of months ago that for a while, CQ was not booking HAL temporarily. Never did hear why the suspension.I can tell you why the suspension because I was directly involved. I was working with CQ on a booking back in April and wanted a category higher. They stood firm on their price and I booked a "guaranteed BB" category. Shortly after, I saw the same price on a BA category at SmartCruiser and contacted CQ. Ray at CQ got back to me explaining they had an ongoing issue with HAL with regard to giving the "big guys" better deals. So until he could resolve the issue once and for all, he decided to stop booking HAL.
He then worked it out with HAL and began taking bookings again. I was given my cabin request in the BA category and was happy. Earlier this month I again saw a lower price at SmartCruiser for Category BA, got in touch with Ray and he again went into negotiations with HAL. He then lowered my price to match the one at SC.
I agree with everyone here that you have to shop around each and every time. There will never been one agent who can always give you the lowest price. But my experience for 3 years is that CQ is pretty consistently low. And they have bent over backwards so I do tend to go to them first each and every time.
vjb223
July 18th, 2004, 02:24 PM
I am always open to a bargin, but when I checked smartcruiser for a cruise we recently booked -their price was over $700 PER PERSON higher than what we got from another agency. You might want to consider checking some other agencys. I realize every agency can not always have the best price for every sailing but $1,400 seems like alot to me.
HeatherInFlorida
July 18th, 2004, 02:28 PM
Not to worry, whenever I'm booking a cruise I compare prices from at least 7-10 agencies, both internet and local. I do this over a period of a month or so and then I stay on top of it after booking. There is no way any agent could price lower than what we're paying now for our upcoming cruise without HAL paying me to go on the cruise.
joanagain
July 19th, 2004, 05:06 AM
...about cabin B133...i think that you are sailing with the veendam on nov.5...at that date, we expect to be 2 days at sea...on the noordam...we sail nov 3...
bon voyage.
vjb223
July 19th, 2004, 05:25 AM
maybe you could e-mail me with some of you tips, vjb223
HeatherInFlorida
July 19th, 2004, 12:36 PM
maybe you could e-mail me with some of you tips, vjb223
Sorry, vjb, I don't follow what you're asking?
vjb223
July 19th, 2004, 03:22 PM
please e-mail me vjb223@aol.com
HeatherInFlorida
July 19th, 2004, 04:20 PM
please e-mail me vjb223@aol.comvjb, I'm sorry and I hope you won't misunderstand this but I am really careful about not sharing my email address with anyone I don't personally know. At this point I am fortunate enough to receive zero junk mail and it helps to keep my address private.
I really, really hope you don't take offense with that. It has nothing to do with you personally. If you would explain your question, I'll be really happy to answer it here.
I hope you understand my reasons.
vjb223
July 19th, 2004, 06:28 PM
Understand and don't blame you on not giving e-mail address. I just was curious when you said you check 10 or so sites for prices a month ahead of time before you book. I just wanted a recommedation of which agencys you like best as far as quotes. Not sure how to get that from you. I am not going to give out your e-mail mine is vjb223@aol.com it is up to you to respond, I promise I will not give to anyone...oh I approve of this message..ha ha
FlorenceItaly
July 20th, 2004, 09:51 AM
For a cruise I am looking at in Jan, I just got a quote from CQ that was $835 MORE than bpc's, and only $200 or so less than the HAL site. Maybe they don't want me as a customer, and gave me a high bid, LOL. I have emailed them a few times since booking my current cruise next month........No Problem Mon, LOL.:).
Marie
HeatherInFlorida
July 20th, 2004, 12:48 PM
Very strange, but it would lead me to believe that CQ is still having a problem with HAL so in some cases they may not be the best agent to use for HAL cruises. Must be one heck of a cruise for that kind of money! If I deducted $835 off my cruise, the cruise would be less than free. I'm guessing you mean $835 for 2? It seems there's something totally wrong with that quote.
ekerr19
July 20th, 2004, 01:25 PM
Heather - our savings CQ vs. our TA in Seattle was over $800 for four people (one cabin) for a 10-day Volendam in March. I haven't been able to find anyone to beat it so far. Also, we are hoping to get the third/fourth child rate for $299 pp once it is announced for 2005.
I always shop around quite a bit - only once did we find a better deal and our TA called HAL and they matched it.
FlorenceItaly
July 20th, 2004, 02:19 PM
No, $835 for ONE...solo rate...10 day on Rotterdam, Jan 15. Best rate I could find was bpc's at $1971, cat DD, lower promenade...CQ quoted the same cabin at $2806! Doubt I will take this cruise...would love to...maybe in 2006.
Marie
MISSYLOU
July 20th, 2004, 03:17 PM
Marie: You need a cruise buddy. :D Wish I didn't have to work and I could cruise with you. Seriously, I read so many nice posts from people like you and LoisR and wonder why singles couldn't hook up for these cruises to save some money and be able to cruise more often.
We have met several single ladies who say that they just can't find anyone to cruise with them.
Spender Nui
July 20th, 2004, 04:31 PM
First let me say that I've never had a price reduction after booking a cruise. Now I have a question. All numbers are hypothetical.
Cruise line price is $1000.
TA sells me that cruise for $700.
Cruise line drops price to $900.
Am I entitled to price reduction? If so, how much?
HeatherInFlorida
July 20th, 2004, 04:44 PM
Spender, my first reaction would be that you likely should get a reduction. Because from what I understand, agents base their charge to us so they always realize the same commission. Therefore, if the cruiseline lowers its price, the TA should be able to as well. I would contact the agent....as long as you haven't made your final payment. Then all bets are off.
Marie, I have little knowledge about single supplements. I'm also always amazed that 10 day cruises seem to cost so much more than 7 day when you average the cost per day. Missylou's right! Get a cruise buddyhttp://boards2.cruisecritic.com/images/smilies/smile.gif . Our next cruise (Oosterdam) is a 7 day, but the cost with all taxes and fees came to only about $750pp and that's a BA category with a verandah.
Ekerr, wasn't sure whether you meant your TA did better than CQ or other way around, but if you meant your TA did that's great! There is one TA in our area that will pretty much match any internet rate. The only reason I don't use them is I'm too lazyhttp://boards2.cruisecritic.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif . I hate all that going back and forth. Once I see a great rate, I snap it up.
ekerr19
July 20th, 2004, 04:58 PM
Spender, my first reaction would be that you likely should get a reduction. Because from what I understand, agents base their charge to us so they always realize the same commission. Therefore, if the cruiseline lowers its price, the TA should be able to as well. I would contact the agent....as long as you haven't made your final payment. Then all bets are off.
Marie, I have little knowledge about single supplements. I'm also always amazed that 10 day cruises seem to cost so much more than 7 day when you average the cost per day. Missylou's right! Get a cruise buddyhttp://boards2.cruisecritic.com/images/smilies/smile.gif . Our next cruise (Oosterdam) is a 7 day, but the cost with all taxes and fees came to only about $750pp and that's a BA category with a verandah.
Ekerr, wasn't sure whether you meant your TA did better than CQ or other way around, but if you meant your TA did that's great! There is one TA in our area that will pretty much match any internet rate. The only reason I don't use them is I'm too lazyhttp://boards2.cruisecritic.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif . I hate all that going back and forth. Once I see a great rate, I snap it up.
Heather - Sorry, I should have been a bit clearer... Yes, our TA beat almost everyone I could find, so far. :)
Spender - We've always had HAL match any advertised price, twice after final payment. I continue to monitor the internet for sales, when I find one, I let my TA know, she calls HAL and (this is important) if the sale price is valid, we get the reduction. Many times we find the internet site has incorrect pricing, or pricing for a different category than what they've advertised.
FlorenceItaly
July 20th, 2004, 05:08 PM
Yes, the solo rate for the 10 day cruise is just crazy. I won't be going.
My solo rates for my 7 day to NE/Canada, and my upcoming Alaska trip was not even close to that crazy rate. Maybe someday I'll take that particular itinerary, but not now.
MISSYLOU - After you retire, we'll cruise :). I would cruise with Lois anytime too.
Marie
ekerr19
July 22nd, 2004, 11:24 PM
Our TA also beat *************.com's lowest quote by about $400. I'm pretty happy with the price we have been quoted - I don't think we'll be able to do much better.
Additionally - we received our August 2004 edition of Conde Nast
Magazine, which recommends our TA as the best TA to use for booking any HAL voyage...
I don't think we'll be able to beat that!
FlorenceItaly
July 23rd, 2004, 07:56 AM
ekerr19 - It sounds like you have a wonderful TA. Btw, I don't think I'll be using CQ again....
Marie