Cruise Ship PAssenger dies in fall

[FIRELT5]

http://www.theroyalgazette.com/siftology.royalgazette/Article/article.jsp?articleId=7d76a5230030000&sectionId=60

[Copper10-8]

Very sad!!

"He added: “It appears that Mr. Mulloy had returned to the ship with his cousin after they had a few drinks together at a nearby St. George's bar"

It appears we've heard that before somewhere!

[Gator83]

People need to stop drinking.

[hammybee]

What a shame. Between excessive drinking in overnight port calls and in the cabin, a lot of unfortunate accidents are happening. We can be thankful that at least they are not driving.

[jtl513]

It sounds like the ships need a midnight curfew for anyone under 30 yrs old. :(

[Scrumpy]

I always think about these people's poor family and friends. They lose a loved one and if that isn't bad enough there are always people talking about the deceased like they are disposable because they were careless. I will say careless because I don't have the heart to repeat some of the heartless comments I've read about these incidents.

Hey Copper - you've got to change that avatar. It's way creepy!

[Desdemona01]

I don't think there's anyone who doesn't feel compassion for the family and loved ones. What irritates me (and maybe others) is that it's not unusual for these same families to come back and try to blame/sue the cruise lines. As adults, we are all responsible for our conduct.

[Mr. T & Amelie]

C'mon, Put the dog back. It is much more pleasing to the eye (than the eye).:)

[Tinknock50]

I don't think there's anyone who doesn't feel compassion for the family and loved ones. What irritates me (and maybe others) is that it's not unusual for these same families to come back and try to blame/sue the cruise lines. As adults, we are all responsible for our conduct.

I agree. An able-bodied 22 year old doesn't just fall several decks without something else going on. The important thing is to learn from this life experience and not have another trgedy like that.I have great sympathy for the family.

[Sea King]

and the point is?:confused:

other than "perhaps" proving that too much to drink can have dire consequences, is there a reason for the post?

[Teresa Price]

Where have you been my girl, I'm waiting for an email!!
oh but having said that my darn email is not working just at present, cheers Teresa

[Scrumpy]

Teresa - fix that email!!! :) Did you see your email from Pam a while back or has the email been down a long time? I got it on my birthday. Nice surprise! And, this is a nice surprise, too :D
Cheers!
Susan

[Krazy Kruizers]

What a shame!!

[newfarmers]

Very sad!!

"He added: “It appears that Mr. Mulloy had returned to the ship with his cousin after they had a few drinks together at a nearby St. George's bar"

It appears we've heard that before somewhere!

People need to stop drinking.

What a shame. Between excessive drinking in overnight port calls and in the cabin, a lot of unfortunate accidents are happening. We can be thankful that at least they are not driving.

sounds like the ships need a midnight curfew for anyone under 30 yrs old.
I don't think there's anyone who doesn't feel compassion for the family and loved ones. What irritates me (and maybe others) is that it's not unusual for these same families to come back and try to blame/sue the cruise lines. As adults, we are all responsible for our conduct.




what a bunch of self righteous drivel

only one redeeming comment, thankyou Sea King

A young man dies and it brings shieks of - ban that evil drink, the man's family will sue (gee, that's a shareholder speaking if ever I heard one).

Ok some of you might be tee-totallers but what gives any of you the right to judge this young DEAD guy or his family????????? Yes he MIGHT have been drunk when he fell but he fell and now he's dead and his family is mourming a dead son, brother, grandson, cousin, uncle.

Arghhh!!!! I have very much enjoyed reading and learning from the HAL board (in regards to what to expect on our upcoming Rotterdam cruise) but I think I've had enough of the judgemental comments of many of the board members. The destination boards are much less cruel and opinionated. yes, everyone has the right to an opinion but these 'opinions' are nothing other than mean spirited ravings.

Dont drink, smoke like a chimney wherever you want, all you young people (and kids) get of MY ship, get back to your own cruise line you interlopers, where that tux or I'll zap you with my lazer eyes, repent or you're going to hell......

[bphman]

I agree with Newfarmers. We are all passing judgement on this poor fellow away on a vacation. A few drinks doesn't mean he was falling down drunk or sitting on a railing tempting fate. Lets just say our prayers that it wasn't one of our own loved ones and extend our sympathies to the family

[Copper10-8]

Mr. Newfarmers, one of the self righteous ones here;) Hope your day is improving!

Look, not sure how many of these unfortunate incidents you have been following over the years but a common denominator in the vast majority of them has been the liberal (over) consumption of alcohol. Unless one wants to commit suicide (and, yes, that happens on ships also) it's really somewhat difficult to just fall off/or down a modern cruise ship. It is possible, however, if one is impaired in the area of judgement, reaction time, etc. If you have been on a cruise ship, you will know this by taking a glance at the safety railings on the decks and balconies. If you have not had the pleasure, then I'm sure you will find out on the Rotterdam (Have a great cruise BTW!).

Some folks are apparently in the mind set that, once on a cruise vacation, all rules are out the window when it comes to comsumption of alcohol. I can't count the times I've seen that on my job but, unfortunately, I've seen it more than once on the ships also and I can guarantee you, it's not a pretty sight! I wish that someone would/could keep an eye on these individuals when they get themselves in that state. Maybe even the cruise line bears some responsibility to shut someone off when he/she becomes so intoxicated, he/she can't take care of their own safety anymore.

I started my reply to the OP's post with "very sad" because that's what this entire incident is, very sad that a young man's life has been taken away in his prime. Very sad for him and even more sad for his family. If you believe that by me saying that, I'm being self-righteous that is your opinion and you of course, have the right to express it.

Take care and be safe!

[FIRELT5]

http://www.theroyalgazette.com/siftology.royalgazette/Article/article.jsp?articleId=7d76ab33003000c&sectionId=60

[Welove2cruise2]

We've been on the Majesty several times (as you can see by my signature) and the only stairwell he could have fallen that far from is mid ships. The forward and aft stairwells have a much tighter turn, so there isn't room to fall between the rails.

The stair railings are VERY high, with glass below the wooden rails. He was obviously trying to slide down the bannister, and went over the side.

I'm sorry, but no one in their right mind (i.e., sober) would attempt something like that...

Tragic...

[ger_77]

How awful for that young man's family - they say goodbye to him with smiles as he leaves for a fabulous cruise, and have him return in a casket. That would be tough to cope with. Sorry to hear about it.

Smooth Sailing! :) :) :)

[newfarmers]

Mr. Newfarmers, one of the self righteous ones here;) Hope your day is improving!

Look, not sure how many of these unfortunate incidents you have been following over the years but a common denominator in the vast majority of them has been the liberal (over) consumption of alcohol. Unless one wants to commit suicide (and, yes, that happens on ships also) it's really somewhat difficult to just fall off/or down a modern cruise ship. It is possible, however, if one is impaired in the area of judgement, reaction time, etc. If you have been on a cruise ship, you will know this by taking a glance at the safety railings on the decks and balconies. If you have not had the pleasure, then I'm sure you will find out on the Rotterdam (Have a great cruise BTW!).

Some folks are apparently in the mind set that, once on a cruise vacation, all rules are out the window when it comes to comsumption of alcohol. I can't count the times I've seen that on my job but, unfortunately, I've seen it more than once on the ships also and I can guarantee you, it's not a pretty sight! I wish that someone would/could keep an eye on these individuals when they get themselves in that state. Maybe even the cruise line bears some responsibility to shut someone off when he/she becomes so intoxicated, he/she can't take care of their own safety anymore.

I started my reply to the OP's post with "very sad" because that's what this entire incident is, very sad that a young man's life has been taken away in his prime. Very sad for him and even more sad for his family. If you believe that by me saying that, I'm being self-righteous that is your opinion and you of course, have the right to express it.

Take care and be safe!



Thanks John

Happy travels too:)

In you line of work (by the way, think the pic is great – the dog is beautiful) I can’t image the horrors you’ve been exposed to that are the direct result of over consumption of alcohol.

What upset me was that I believe no-one had the right to make any presumptions about this poor kid. It could have been his birthday, graduation etc etc. Yes, it’s been identified that he’d had some alcohol preceeding the accident but no-one except the bar tender and his friend/s know how much and how affected he was by it. Maybe he was on medication and he shouldn’t have been drinking anything at all. Maybe, maybe, maybe

Yes, people have every right to voice an opinion but no-one knows the facts of how this happened. All we know is that he had a few drinks and now he is dead so for people to start espousing their views on banning alcohol and curfews for under 30s – for goodness sake, a young man has died, please don’t think this is a cue to start giving sermons. The most grating comment regarded the possibility that the family may sue. I hope no-one who knew the boy is unfortunate enough to read that tasteless comment.

Except for the lifelong teetotallers out there we were all young once and possibly over-indulged. It’s part of growing up. I would be a millionaire if I’d put a dollar away every time my parents said “won’t you ever learn?” the morning after the night before :o . I was young, and fool hardy and thought I was invincible. Luckily I did eventually learn. Sadly this young man won’t have the chance to learn from his mistake. He’s paid the ultimate price and his parents will continue to pay for the rest of their’s wondering what they could have done to stop this from happening. The same goes for his brothers, sisters and grandparents.

Our Rotterdam cruise will be my third (Fedor Shalyapin 29 years ago and Infinity B2B in 2004) and my partners second (Infinity 2004 as well). In two years we plan on heading to Tahiti to join the Paul Gauguin for a couple of weeks. We have been well and truly bitten by the bug. I absolutely agree that you can’t fall off a ship unless you are doing something dumb. If what happened to this young man makes just one other young person think - whether affected by alcohol or youthful bravado - before climbing onto a railing then his death won’t have been in vain.

And so ends my sermon

Pete

[Copper10-8]

Fair enough Pete!:) And you are 100% correct, we should not be jumping to conclusions before we have all the facts in house! Alcohol does however, seems to be involved in most of these sad cases in some way, but I'm repeating myself again.

You and your partner enjoy Rotterdam (our favorite HAL ship) - Heard great things about Paul Gauguin and Tahiti also

[Tinknock50]

..... I absolutely agree that you can’t fall off a ship unless you are doing something dumb. If what happened to this young man makes just one other young person think - whether affected by alcohol or youthful bravado - before climbing onto a railing then his death won’t have been in vain.

And so ends my sermon

Pete

Good post Pete....I just quoted the last part because that is what I was trying to convey......only you did a much better job.:)

[Cruisin'Mama7]

Extremely well said, Pete!:)

Our society has gotten to the point where we are sooooo quick to criticize another individual when they exhibit the slightest human imperfections, much less when a gross judgement error occurs.

I agree with Pete...sure do hope that the family doesn't hear some of these comments regarding their deceased loved one. :(

Lord knows that I'm no bible thumper, but whatever happened to "He who is without sin, cast the first stone...".

[WillieF]

Seems to me this was an extremely unfortunate accident. My heart felt sympathy to the family.

[CDRMark]

People need to stop drinking.

People need to stop having accidents.
Cheers
Mark

[Williebill]

I pray for the family to find some comfort.