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denversees4me
August 23rd, 2009, 02:36 PM
Hi All
Long time AGAIN - I never seem to get to this thread and stay on top of it as much as I would like to !
I am seeking everyones help ....
As some of you may remember I had an incident with Disney Cruise Line in Oct of last year with the litter box area being LOCKED from 7 PM to 7 AM ... When I ask them to move the box THEY WOULD NOT .... They did not want to accomidate me in any way and told me I was lucky enough just to have my Guide Dog on the cruise LOL .... anyways I finally got a room with a verandah 1 1/2 days into our cruise and it was great , but it never solved the ISSUE which was them not accomidatin someone with the box . They wont move it inside in a un used hallway like Princess does ( Thanks Princess we will be sailing our next Alaska with you ) and I just think it is wrong not to mention the forst night Denver and I waited 1 HOUR before someone came to un lock that stupid door ,.,,, NOT compliant under title 3 of the ADA a locked door is NOT a resonable accomidation and having to BEG them to move it and throw a FIT to get them to move me to an area where it could be used all the time without assistance I think is just wrong too
Here is where everyone comes into play
I know Princess has special services and uses Allison Muff but I dont know the other lines and who they use as I have only ever sailed princess and DCL SSSSOooooooooo If any of you know who I would contact in a special services dept at RCCL Carnival Norwegian and HAL I would soooooo appreciate those contacts.... My lawyer needs info on what accomidations other lines are providing to Service dog travelers and if the box is accessable 24/7 and if the box could be moved in the event that I was not able to navigate my way there ( as I had trouble with on DCL because Im VERY low vision /Blind ) . This info will play a KEY part in out case agains DCL so that I can get the box on DCL to a more accomidating spot or have them issue people who cruise with SDs a key to the locked door A RESONABLE ACCOMIDATION !!!!! It is also sad because I have herd that if you are in a wheelchair the door is too heavy to open and so you can not get out to the deck to relieve your dog on your own ... FORCING you to either ask for help or have someone go with you .....
Thanks everyone I know you will have the contact info im looking for !
I dont see Roz on Im assuming shes in Alaska ???? Hope they have fun ... They are GREAT people and Brenda is a DOLL !!!
Cari and Guide Dog Denver

denversees4me
August 23rd, 2009, 02:38 PM
On a seperate post LOL does anyone know what I need to sail to Baja Mexico my itenerary will be San Diego Catalina Ensanada Mexico and San Diego also looking into Cabo San Lucas so PLEASE if anyone knows if i need import permits etc . I would love that info too !!!
Cari and Denver

sunshine426
August 23rd, 2009, 07:30 PM
I don't know the answers to any of your questions, but I wish you would change your cruise to the Sapphire Princess sailing 11/28 so I could meet y'all too!!!!!

denversees4me
August 23rd, 2009, 08:22 PM
where r u sailing ? Maybe the next one ??? I still think we need a group cruise !!!!!

1 Huskerfan
August 24th, 2009, 12:08 AM
Hi Everyone,

I apologize in advance for the long post but I have lots to say!

Cindy are you sitting down....guess what I found out about your sweet boy Wexler???? Even though you and i have never met in person and we live on different coasts, your sweet Wexler was born not 5 minutes from us! Further, I know his brother who has graduated and I know his mom! His mom is a sweet dog and just the best mom. The breeder caretaker is a wonderful woman (very dedicated to CCI) who does a terrific job raising, caring for and teaching the pups until they get to the puppy raisers. I might be able to get you a newborn picture of your sweet boy if you are interested?! Small world huh?

Miriam, if I recall correctly Hannah is on the autism spectrum. If I am wrong this may not be applicable. I assume from what you say the service dog group in Canada specializes in dogs that herd. The reason I mention this is that CCI dogs do not herd. If that is necessary parents will sometimes choose the dogs that herd from specialized autism groups. If however Hannah is not a bolter/runner then you might want to consider an entity like CCI. I realize they are in the states; however, they charge no fee (most of the autism ones do charge a fee), they have a shorter waiting list, and the age limit for the child I think is 5 years old. As you see form our situation and Cindy/John's this can in some cases be less than a 1 - 2 year wait. If you could deal with the 2 week training in the states AND the bolting thing is not an issue I would at least look into CCI. They give a lot of dogs to kids with autism.

Well I guess that is about it. Need to make our final payment for our November cruise and are waffling about whether we want to go all the way to Florida? Now we are thinking maybe we should look into one that leaves from the west coast to avoid the added hassle, time change, etc..

Kim and Keldon

TrinaP1204
August 24th, 2009, 12:33 AM
I think we all need a big sign to carry around with our dogs on a cruise that says

I know what you are dying to ask and the answer is: I have a box of sod where I do my business.

That has to be THE #1 asked question on our cruise to Alaska last week.

sunshine426
August 24th, 2009, 12:58 AM
where r u sailing ? Maybe the next one ??? I still think we need a group cruise !!!!!

We are sailing to the Mexican Riveria, I noticed the cruise you were planning was for that area as well. I would so love to do a group cruise, even though I don't have a service dog of my own.

denversees4me
August 24th, 2009, 01:39 AM
Sunshine
are you flying here or do you live on the west coast ? Do you have to have any import permits for that cruise? If not is it just the general health cert abd vaccines ? Very interested to know and maybe we can book a cruise everyone can join in on .... like a year in advance or something it would be fun and i know we have tossed it around here before several times ...
Cari and D

sunshine426
August 24th, 2009, 07:49 AM
Sunshine
are you flying here or do you live on the west coast ? Do you have to have any import permits for that cruise? If not is it just the general health cert abd vaccines ? Very interested to know and maybe we can book a cruise everyone can join in on .... like a year in advance or something it would be fun and i know we have tossed it around here before several times ...
Cari and D

Cari, I don't have a service dog of my own so don't know about the vaccines and permits(unless you are talking abt us, my husband is hoping the swine flu vaccine is available prior to our cruise;)).

We are sailing from San Pedro, so will be flying until LAX on 11/27. The day after Thanksgiving. We will be staying at the doubletree in San Pedro the night before. Where in California are you located. Anychance on meeting up? Karen

denversees4me
August 24th, 2009, 11:10 AM
Karen I am in Temecula which is about 1 1/2 hrs from San Pedro but my boyfriend lives in Santa Ana which is somewhat close to San pedro .... I might be able to meet up AFTER your cruise as I work the week /weekend of thanksgiving .... It would be fun !
Who knows if they will have the swine flu vaccine but you can sure hope !

My cruise is only 8 weeks away now . We are sailing Disney again despite our issues . I have booked a room on the same deck as the box and am HOPING it will go a little smoother .... I am still proceeding with a Lawyer though and want to solve the issue for everyone who sails . DCL is AMAZING in every other respect ... they are so helpful with my guide dog and I at shows and while onboard :-)

Have a good day everyone !
Cari and Denver

wizard-of-roz
August 24th, 2009, 01:50 PM
Miriam: Congratulations on your potential new family member and, I love the name JJ. It's simple and easy for training. Your life will be filled with so much joy and who doesn't need that!

Trina: That seems to be the most asked question of all! It's so funny....the general public just doesn't have a clue what a dog can be trained to do. Which is why I can't wait to inform some of them on our cruise on September 5th.

Cari: I am so appalled at how Disney acted with the potty-box......here is some information for you.

We have not taken Brenda on RCCL-so, I can't talk about them.

CELEBRITY: 800-242-6374 - They provided a 4x4 wooden box, filled with sand [we had to ask that they replace the sand with mulch and they did] on a forward deck. We had to walk to it but it was easy to get to and was always accessible.

HOLLAND AMERICA: 800-577-1731- Provided a 4x3 wooden box, filled with grass sod. It was placed on the Promenade Deck-Forward. On our second cruise with them, they placed the box on our veranda.

NCL: 800-659-4639 - Provided a 4x4 woodem box, filled witjh cyprus mulch. It was placed in a storage closet, two cabins down from ours.

CARNIVAL: 800-327-5782 - Provided a 4x4 wooden box, filled with dirt. It was placed on our veranda.

PRINCESS: 661-284-4521 - Allison Muff - 4x4 wooden box, filled with mulch and placed in a storage closet near our cabin or in the stairwell, near our cabin [the stairwell would not be good for wheelchairs-too heavy]. But, it would work for you, Cari.

Mexico documents needed.
1. Department of Food and Agriculture-Certificate for Interstate or International Movement of Small Animals - It has all the information needed from your Vet. Get it from your Vet-he/she will fill it out and give it to you. It has all vaccines and information on Heartguard usage.
2. Copy of Service Dog Certification from CCI [if you have something fine, if not that's okay, not all org's. give out Permits. It just makes travel so much easier.]
3. Copy of City Dog License
4. Copy of Picture I.D. [I supply my driver's license & copy of Passport]

For our Alaska cruise, on September 5th. I am using the same documentation that I used for our April cruise, except I am including Brenda's new 3 year Certification (exp. 2012.) Allison asked me to fax her that information and did not ask for anything else. Brenda is current on all vaccines [that's their main concern] and I use Heartguard and Advantix, religously! Another concern of foreign ports.

That's it.

***We are looking at cruising Carnival in January 17th on the Splendor and Sapphire Princess on April 17th [see if any of you can book on these dates, that would be so much fun!]

denversees4me
August 24th, 2009, 10:53 PM
Roz - Thanks for the info ... ok so when I went to alaska the alaska ports didnt care about the health cert but i KNOW you have to have one for Canadian ports and it can not be less than 10 days prior to travel so be careful i know you said your using docs from April right ?

Ok so the usual for mexico i was just making sure i didnt need an import permit like i do for nassau ....
Hmmmmm Carnival huh ... Princess huh ? Maybe I can convince hubby ... if not my best friend Mary and I are looking at January on Carnival - wouldnt that be a BLAST !!!!!!!!!!!!

wizard-of-roz
August 25th, 2009, 12:36 PM
Roz - Thanks for the info ... ok so when I went to alaska the alaska ports didnt care about the health cert but i KNOW you have to have one for Canadian ports and it can not be less than 10 days prior to travel so be careful i know you said your using docs from April right ?

Ok so the usual for mexico i was just making sure i didnt need an import permit like i do for nassau ....
Hmmmmm Carnival huh ... Princess huh ? Maybe I can convince hubby ... if not my best friend Mary and I are looking at January on Carnival - wouldnt that be a BLAST !!!!!!!!!!!!\

Cari: Thanks for the info. I'll contact Allison and see what she says. I don't intend to leave the ship in Canada, at all. Only in Alaska, we have two excursions planned. More than enough for "PaPa!"

Let me know about the January 17th cruise onboard the Carnival Splendor. That would be so much fun. Brenda and Denver together again! It's a "doggie love story!"

denversees4me
August 25th, 2009, 02:35 PM
Roz- Denver says he wants to play Titanic with Brenda on the cruise excpet not the sinking ship part he wants to leave that part out LOL LOL LOL :p:p:p

wizard-of-roz
August 25th, 2009, 02:58 PM
Roz- Denver says he wants to play Titanic with Brenda on the cruise excpet not the sinking ship part he wants to leave that part out LOL LOL LOL :p:p:p

You are so funny!!!!! They're so cute together!

dobiemom
August 25th, 2009, 04:55 PM
***We are looking at cruising Carnival in January 17th on the Splendor and Sapphire Princess on April 17th [see if any of you can book on these dates, that would be so much fun!]
Roz, a band called the Katinas will be onboard the Splendor January 17th and I'm trying to book with their group cruise. I just need to find someone to go with me! Hope to see you onboard!

wizard-of-roz
August 25th, 2009, 05:12 PM
Roz, a band called the Katinas will be onboard the Splendor January 17th and I'm trying to book with their group cruise. I just need to find someone to go with me! Hope to see you onboard!

Okay! So, now I know great minds think alike! That would be wonderful.

nseagirl
August 25th, 2009, 09:46 PM
Will some of you please go check on this thread and straighten these people out:mad::mad:?!

http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=1046987

rangeley
August 25th, 2009, 10:06 PM
Cindy are you sitting down....guess what I found out about your sweet boy Wexler???? Even though you and i have never met in person and we live on different coasts, your sweet Wexler was born not 5 minutes from us! Further, I know his brother who has graduated and I know his mom! His mom is a sweet dog and just the best mom. The breeder caretaker is a wonderful woman (very dedicated to CCI) who does a terrific job raising, caring for and teaching the pups until they get to the puppy raisers. I might be able to get you a newborn picture of your sweet boy if you are interested?! Small world huh?


Omg Kim what a small world. We actually have a pic of Wexlers mom. Her name is Ember. But we do not have a baby pic of him that small. We would love one if you can get it. Tell the breeder caretaker we appreciate everything she does. All those volunteers are incredible.

Cindy

sunshine426
August 26th, 2009, 09:27 AM
Hi Everyone. I had an 11 month old lab/golden fella out yesterday. He was so sweet. Stopped to visit with my MIL and she said he was the best dog yet that I have brought over. She had such a smile on her face as he had his head nestled on her lap and she stroked his ears. Then she walked around the apartment with her walker and he stayed right be her side. Of course he was so friendly with the children at the hospital. His biggest challenge is that he is so social, wants to visit and see everyone. If I had him for more than a day visit, I am sure I could have worked on that. Mostly he is just young. As long as I stayed focused on him, he stayed focused on me, so I know he can do it.

Off to visit puppies today. This litter of four goldens are so bold and curious. It is going to be fun to watch them grow up.

1 Huskerfan
August 26th, 2009, 12:10 PM
Hi Everyone. I had an 11 month old lab/golden fella out yesterday. He was so sweet. Stopped to visit with my MIL and she said he was the best dog yet that I have brought over. She had such a smile on her face as he had his head nestled on her lap and she stroked his ears. Then she walked around the apartment with her walker and he stayed right be her side. Of course he was so friendly with the children at the hospital. His biggest challenge is that he is so social, wants to visit and see everyone. If I had him for more than a day visit, I am sure I could have worked on that. Mostly he is just young. As long as I stayed focused on him, he stayed focused on me, so I know he can do it.

Off to visit puppies today. This litter of four goldens are so bold and curious. It is going to be fun to watch them grow up.

I just love your outlook on life. You give so much to others, are so positive and see the potential in every living being!

Kim and Keldon

1 Huskerfan
August 26th, 2009, 12:17 PM
Omg Kim what a small world. We actually have a pic of Wexlers mom. Her name is Ember. But we do not have a baby pic of him that small. We would love one if you can get it. Tell the breeder caretaker we appreciate everything she does. All those volunteers are incredible.

Cindy

Yep Ember is a sweet wonderful mom. I will see if I can get a newbie picture. The breeder caretakers often send the newborn pics to our group. They are so adorable when they are so little! Ember's breeder caretaker probably has a picture of him. When I see her breeder caretaker in a few days I will pass on your thoughts and ask if she has any newbie or under 2 month pics.

Hey i meant to ask how is it going with the dogs? Also, is John back at school and how is Wexler doing with that?

Kim and Keldon

sunshine426
August 26th, 2009, 05:46 PM
I just love your outlook on life. You give so much to others, are so positive and see the potential in every living being!

Kim and Keldon

Thanks for your kind words. I get paid in puppy snuggles and kisses! Priceless.

wizard-of-roz
August 26th, 2009, 06:15 PM
Hi Everyone. I had an 11 month old lab/golden fella out yesterday. He was so sweet. Stopped to visit with my MIL and she said he was the best dog yet that I have brought over. She had such a smile on her face as he had his head nestled on her lap and she stroked his ears. Then she walked around the apartment with her walker and he stayed right be her side. Of course he was so friendly with the children at the hospital. His biggest challenge is that he is so social, wants to visit and see everyone. If I had him for more than a day visit, I am sure I could have worked on that. Mostly he is just young. As long as I stayed focused on him, he stayed focused on me, so I know he can do it.

Off to visit puppies today. This litter of four goldens are so bold and curious. It is going to be fun to watch them grow up.

Brenda's worst, worst, worst habit is being overly-friendly. She thinks she has to greet every eye-stare; every hi, Roz; every person who's walking towards me or her......I have to physically pull/correct her on-leash; turn around, walk the other way for a few steps and then re-direct her. It has nothing to do with her "youth" considering she's now 9 1/2 years old. It's ingrained in her!!!!

It's always been her. I have to physically wear her out if I know we're going out socially; I let her play, very hard, chasing the ball or we go for a long walk before we go into a meeting room. She's been like this since we graduated together and when they should have corrected it, they didn't, so, it's "marked" in her head....."people coming, oh, boy......let's greet them!!!!!!"

CCI knew this was her personality and knew that Brenda would not do well with a shy/withdrawn person.....so, they paired us together and I love every challenge of it!!!!!

rangeley
August 26th, 2009, 07:59 PM
Yep Ember is a sweet wonderful mom. I will see if I can get a newbie picture. The breeder caretakers often send the newborn pics to our group. They are so adorable when they are so little! Ember's breeder caretaker probably has a picture of him. When I see her breeder caretaker in a few days I will pass on your thoughts and ask if she has any newbie or under 2 month pics.

Hey i meant to ask how is it going with the dogs? Also, is John back at school and how is Wexler doing with that?

Kim and Keldon



Kim, Things are going fine. Bailee is dealing with it. No growling or anything like that. He tries to kiss her and she just stands there and wags her tail.

I'm posting a link to our pics let me know if it works. http://www.shutterfly.com/home/myshutterfly.sfly


Cindy

Quampapetet
August 27th, 2009, 05:56 AM
As some of you may remember I had an incident with Disney Cruise Line in Oct of last year with the litter box area being LOCKED from 7 PM to 7 AM ... When I ask them to move the box THEY WOULD NOT .... They did not want to accomidate me in any way and told me I was lucky enough just to have my Guide Dog on the cruise LOL .... anyways I finally got a room with a verandah 1 1/2 days into our cruise and it was great , but it never solved the ISSUE which was them not accomidatin someone with the box . They wont move it inside in a un used hallway like Princess does ( Thanks Princess we will be sailing our next Alaska with you ) and I just think it is wrong not to mention the forst night Denver and I waited 1 HOUR before someone came to un lock that stupid door ,.,,, NOT compliant under title 3 of the ADA a locked door is NOT a resonable accomidation and having to BEG them to move it and throw a FIT to get them to move me to an area where it could be used all the time without assistance I think is just wrong too

Oh my gosh!!! That is TERRIBLE!!!!!!! :mad: What did they expect, for your dog to be toilet trained?!

Here is where everyone comes into play
I know Princess has special services and uses Allison Muff but I dont know the other lines and who they use as I have only ever sailed princess and DCL SSSSOooooooooo If any of you know who I would contact in a special services dept at RCCL Carnival Norwegian and HAL I would soooooo appreciate those contacts.... My lawyer needs info on what accomidations other lines are providing to Service dog travelers and if the box is accessable 24/7 and if the box could be moved in the event that I was not able to navigate my way there ( as I had trouble with on DCL because Im VERY low vision /Blind ) .

I didn't contact a specific person for RCCL, just their Special Needs Desk. You can find the number for it on these boards somewhere, just do a search.

RCCL said they would give a 4' x 4' box of Cypress mulch, but their box was a whole lot smaller than that - maybe about 2' x 2'. It had a thin layer of mulch in it, which was replenished halfway through the cruise. It was put on a public deck outside, on the hallway to the helipad. It took me a long time to find it (of going back and forth to the customer service desk, phone, and finally talking to two lower-level employees) because they didn't have it set up at first. At first they told me it was on the helipad, which wouldn't have been accessible to ppl in wheelchairs, with walkers, or who otherwise couldn't do stairs (stairs are the only way to get to the helipad). The place where it was was accessible and the gate that led to it was never locked (the time or two that I found it closed I just pushed it open so we could get to the box, then I closed it after me). The box really needed to be closer to my cabin, though, since my cabin was almost all the way aft and this box was almost all the way forward (and down five floors).

Quampapetet
August 27th, 2009, 06:08 AM
On a seperate post LOL does anyone know what I need to sail to Baja Mexico my itenerary will be San Diego Catalina Ensanada Mexico and San Diego also looking into Cabo San Lucas so PLEASE if anyone knows if i need import permits etc . I would love that info too !!!
Cari and Denver

Mexico just requires a health certificate from within 48 hours of the start of your trip.

rangeley
August 27th, 2009, 07:25 AM
Nevermind on the link, It doesn't work. I'll try to figure it out.:(

rangeley
August 27th, 2009, 08:03 AM
Ok lets give this a shot http://wexler2009.shutterfly.com/ I think this will work.

Cindy

DisneyKidsDad
August 27th, 2009, 08:37 AM
Great pics Cindy. Brings back alot of memories. But in the group photo, I only see three trainers. LA, Lisa & Flora. Who were the other trainers that worked with you?

DisneyKidsDad
August 27th, 2009, 08:42 AM
Oops...I almost forgot. I finally got around to putting together some pictures of Orson's first cruise. He liked the Eastern Caribbean but said
he wants to go somewhere cooler next time. So we are thinking about Alaska in 2011. I'll start asking the experts here about that soon.

http://s689.photobucket.com/albums/vv260/Disneykidsdad/Orsons%20First%20Cruise/

rangeley
August 27th, 2009, 08:48 AM
Great pics Cindy. Brings back alot of memories. But in the group photo, I only see three trainers. LA, Lisa & Flora. Who were the other trainers that worked with you?

DKD, Lauren is in the middle with the white shirt and I see Stacy is missing. Here's a pic of all of them.

Cindy

Great pics DKD!!!

sunshine426
August 27th, 2009, 10:30 AM
I loved the cruise with Orson and thanks Cindi for sharing training camp memories. There was one picture in their that touched me. John has on a red shirt and Wexler is just looking at him like they are having a one on one conversation. I followed the shutterfly link and am attempting to set up my own acct so I can post pictures. I just need to be careful not to put the dogs names on them for confidentiality reasons.

Puppies were super sweet yesterday, going up again today, and then I might need a small break.

wizard-of-roz
August 27th, 2009, 12:59 PM
Mexico just requires a health certificate from within 48 hours of the start of your trip.

I have NEVER had the International Health Certificate withing 48 hours of cruising. It's been within the year of travel; sometimes within 3 months; sometimes within 6 months.

I also have NEVER been denied access to the cruise by the TSA/Immigration or Princess Cruiselines officials.

wizard-of-roz
August 27th, 2009, 01:00 PM
Ok lets give this a shot http://wexler2009.shutterfly.com/ I think this will work.

Cindy

Cindy: I loved the pictures and I'm so happy that all is working out so well for the dogs and the humans!

wizard-of-roz
August 27th, 2009, 01:03 PM
Oops...I almost forgot. I finally got around to putting together some pictures of Orson's first cruise. He liked the Eastern Caribbean but said
he wants to go somewhere cooler next time. So we are thinking about Alaska in 2011. I'll start asking the experts here about that soon.

http://s689.photobucket.com/albums/vv260/Disneykidsdad/Orsons%20First%20Cruise/

I loved your pictures, too! Orson is so handsome! (CCI sure comes up with some interesting names for their dogs!) ;)

Brenda hates, hates, hates the heat. We will no longer be cruising in the middle of summer or to Mexico before November [which can be hot, too] or after April.

I can't wait to see how she likes Alaska.

DisneyKidsDad
August 27th, 2009, 01:04 PM
I have NEVER had the International Health Certificate withing 48 hours of cruising. It's been within the year of travel; sometimes within 3 months; sometimes within 6 months.

I also have NEVER been denied access to the cruise by the TSA/Immigration or Princess Cruiselines officials.

We had to have the international health cert. within 10 days of our cruise.
Our Vet told us that and it was confirmed when we went to get it signed and sealed by the USDA Vet.

denversees4me
August 27th, 2009, 01:06 PM
Quam - Thanks for the info
Denver is toilet trained just not TOILET trained LOL LOL LOL could you imagine our dogs sitting on the toilet I would laugh so hard i would pee my pants if i saw Denver sitting there

I wish cruise lines knew WHERE they placed the boxes and just told us ahead of time . If it was fwd and you were aft why didnt u ask them to move it ? I know almost all lines will ( except disney ) i would have never found it becaujse i have vision loss . I got all of the info i needed on the policys of each ship ( thanks Rozzy baby ) and I am sending it to the attorney in florida who is presenting my case to DCL . I know this coming DCL cruise is going to be the same locked door story but at least i know now they place it on 7 aft and no where else no matter what so i have a room on 7 aft VERY close so they can just knock on my door when they are there and not me sitting on the floor of the hall with a crying pacing dog who has to poop and pee ....
hope everyone is having a good week it is HOT out here
8 weeks till my disney cruise and I am soooooooo excited !
Cari and Denver

wizard-of-roz
August 27th, 2009, 01:35 PM
Quam - Thanks for the info
Denver is toilet trained just not TOILET trained LOL LOL LOL could you imagine our dogs sitting on the toilet I would laugh so hard i would pee my pants if i saw Denver sitting there

I wish cruise lines knew WHERE they placed the boxes and just told us ahead of time . If it was fwd and you were aft why didnt u ask them to move it ? I know almost all lines will ( except disney ) i would have never found it becaujse i have vision loss . I got all of the info i needed on the policys of each ship ( thanks Rozzy baby ) and I am sending it to the attorney in florida who is presenting my case to DCL . I know this coming DCL cruise is going to be the same locked door story but at least i know now they place it on 7 aft and no where else no matter what so i have a room on 7 aft VERY close so they can just knock on my door when they are there and not me sitting on the floor of the hall with a crying pacing dog who has to poop and pee ....
hope everyone is having a good week it is HOT out here
8 weeks till my disney cruise and I am soooooooo excited !
Cari and Denver

Cari: I know you've heard my Carnival story about where they placed the box on our Elation trip to Mexico and what they used for a filler........Here's the story for those who haven't heard it.

Carnival Elation cruise: Potty box was placed near the golf simulator on a deck where we had to climb a flight of stairs to get to it. And, the filler was those _ _ _ _ paper pellets.
1. What if I was in a wheelchair?
2. The paper pellets kill the paws of a Labrador Retriever because their paws are webbed and if there aren't enough of the pellets in the box, it's like stepping on marbles!!!!!!

I went directly to the hotel manager and complained

I was told the hotel manager was not available....I said, [I]"I will NOT leave this desk and, if necessary my Service Dog will poop right in front of it, if you do not get me the hotel manager NOW!!!!!!!!"

Well, needless to say, he managed to show-up within 5 minutes and I took him on a tour of the potty box.

He was so understanding and immediately called for his assistant [on his walkie-talkie.] The assistant and another crew member showed-up and carried the box down to an outside deck. I told them to change the pellets, as well.

The hotel manager asked what would be best I told him "mulch" would be better......the following is not an exaggeration it's the truth.......he sent the assistant off the ship with a bucket and a shovel to get some dirt from under a tree, across the street from the dock, in San Diego. NO LIE!!!! I watched the whole thing from the outside deck.

After the dirt was filled into the box everything was good for Brenda.

The manager took us into his office and apologized by offering us a "huge" percentage off of our next Carnival cruise.......We took the Pride out of Long Beach about 5 months later.

The potty box was placed on our veranda!!!!!

wizard-of-roz
August 27th, 2009, 01:38 PM
We had to have the international health cert. within 10 days of our cruise.
Our Vet told us that and it was confirmed when we went to get it signed and sealed by the USDA Vet.

Where was the cruise going?

DisneyKidsDad
August 27th, 2009, 01:46 PM
Where was the cruise going?

We went to Tortola, St. Thomas & Disney's Island in the Bahamas.

wizard-of-roz
August 27th, 2009, 02:14 PM
We went to Tortola, St. Thomas & Disney's Island in the Bahamas.

Yes, these destinations do require different timing on the certificate.

And, requirements change all the time....

giggleykim
August 27th, 2009, 10:14 PM
Just got home from Kali's (our service dog) first cruise.
We sailed on the Carnival Holiday August 20-24 2009.
When we first got to the ship, we where treated with very quick, friendlieness first name service. (due to having the only dog on the ship I guess we kind of stuck out like a sore thumb!!)
Once we where signed in, we where escorted to our room then guest service for all of Kali's fermality.
We where shown were the relief area was. First we had to get onto the elevators that where being used to luggage portage. (that seemed to be very stressful in itself). The porters wanted to get there job done, and these elevators where the ONLY ones that went to the dinning room.
Once we got to the dinning room. We had to go all the way to the back (imagine a full dinning room lots of waiters running around and trying to get a dog and a wheel chair out and about. -- Dinner goes from about 6-10 and Kali is use to going right before we eat dinner. ahhhh...)
Well when we arrived at the back of the dinning room we we interdused to a step 8 inches high. Surprise!!! Jimmie (my husband) is in a power chair ,(which they know due to needing measurements for the wheelchair room!!) How are you to get a wheelchair over that I do not know, what where they thinking? With Kali needing to use to washroom, I thought I would try to take her out.
We where then told this is a staff only area so we are not to hang out here, just let Kali do her stuff then leave. Well the litter box was also right beside 3 VERY large loud fans.
I then tryed to explain that this area was not suitable at all. They tryed to tell us that this is the area the last service dog used so we would have to make it work due to no where else being availabe. I'm sorry but Kali is my husbands dog, not mine and it is his responsability for dog business so he must be able to get to relief area, and Kali can not go to the washroom beside very large load fans blowing on her and the litter.
I was told this was the only area available so it would have to work. The past guest made it work and we would to. At this point I was getting VERY VERY upset. I do not care about the past guest. We are not them and our needs are different and we will be respected.
I then spoke with the manager. She said the only other option was going to be in the kid area beside the pool, and we would have to call the guest services desk everytime Kali needed the box so they could bring it out for us. She is a service dog, and she should be on a schedule. Yes she is a very routine dog, but wait a minute. We are on vacation our routine is not at all close to daily schedule so how can hers?? And number two she is so stressed how do we know ahead of time when we needed to take her, it goes on when we feel she might need to try again. Number three -- a kids area?? What are they thinking? Do they not know how kids react around a dog?? They want to play together. How can a dog consintrait on the washroom (that they hate to begin with) when kids want to play with them. Number four -- beside a pool. What is better kids to play with? or a pool to play in??? Again another arguement on my hands.
Sorry option one and two are NOT acceptable, and I will get something that works. Finolly they came up with option three. They where able to put the box in the port side embarkation door. This option worked out very well. She had a quite area away from traffic, and it even was on the same floor as our room (that was just a coincidence). Finolly when she got use to using the litter box (and not able to hold on any longer!!) She used the box for pee, but would do her other business in the box. Just beside. (well at least we could clean that one up and put it in the box!!). We asked where we are to put the garbage, I was told to leave it there. (I had baged it for them at least) The litter area only got cleaned one time when we where on the boat for 4 day cruise. The smell was strong but, at least she had somewhere to finolly go that worked out well.
The rest of the trip went as well as we could make it. She was very popular with all fellow passengers, and most people greated her by name by lunch day two!!
We are looking forward to our next cruise in February with her. We now know what works and what does not for her. She will travel far in this life of hers.
Just always remember that you might have to fight but get what you need for your best friend. You will not be able to enjoy your vacation if your dog is not enjoying theres!!!

denversees4me
August 28th, 2009, 02:08 AM
giggleykim- how sad but at least they did finally get it right .... i did not know how spoiled i was on princess until i sailed disney last year. the LOCK the area for relief from 7 pm to 7 am and you have to call a person from the BRIDGE not a crew member but the bridge to unlock the door .... i am in the middle of drawing up complaints with my attorney about it not being a resonable accomidation but MMMAAAANNNNN what do we have to do .... if princess can do it and i hear HAL is really good to WHY cant other lines just do what we ask? how hard is it we know our dogs and what works just set up a box close to our room away from the public and call it good !!! It is 7 days sometimes less ... does it really make THAT big of a difference? dont tell me it is a health issue either because princess can do it
GRRRrrrrr so frustrating huh ? it can ruin a trip ! did mine last year ....
good to hear the poisitive though ... i was thinking of booking them now im wondering LOL

wizard-of-roz
August 28th, 2009, 01:50 PM
Kim: It sounds like you got through the nightmare and managed to have a good time. I'm glad.

For everyone reading this who are still reluctant to cruise with their Service Dog.....Here are a few hints for you:

1. ALWAYS talk to the "Access/Care" Department of the cruise line before you cruise. Let them know about your special needs; potty box/filler/placement/no locked doors, etc. (I know that sometimes there's a huge gap between the cummunication and the ship) but, you may get someone who has great enthusiasm and will address your issues.

2. ALWAYS potty your dog before you get on the ship. This will give you hours to investigate and get the box right before your dog hits that "uncomfortable zone!"

3. The second you get on the ship and you swipe your Sail & Sign Card, ask to speak with the Hotel Manager or the Cruise Director. Have them meet you in your cabin or go to the information desk.

4. You want to know the placement of the box/litter [make sure they've placed enough litter in the box for your dog's comfort] and a guarantee that the door to the box will be OPEN 24/7 for your dog to use.

5. We are continuing to use Princess because they are so responsive to our needs. (NCL was also very good, we just didn't like the cruiseline.) The Hotel Manager meets me in my cabin before we cruise to make sure I'm happy with the box. He actually walks with me to the box and asks if it's okay!

On Princess they placed the box in a stairwell, near our cabin [not good for someone in a wheel chair. There's a "lip" that you have to step over to enter the area and the door is quite heavy.] Or, they place the box down the hall in a storage closet. If you have a veranda ask them to put the box on it. My DH doesn't like this but it works great! And, they may balk at this but there's no reason they can't do it, insist!!!!!

We have ALWAYS been good steward's of the box. I pick up the waste in a plastic bag and tie it closed, and either leave it inside the recepticle they provide or I leave it by the outside of the box.

I know it all seems like so much work but once it's been done, you have the whole rest of your cruise to enjoy and not worry about anything!!!!!

Brenda is so used to the routine of cruising [our next on September 5th will be her 12th cruise] that she literally walks to the stairwell the moment we get off the elevator and start walking towards our cabin. It's very funny, she thinks it's her own personal yacht!!!!!

S.S. Cruisers
August 29th, 2009, 02:20 PM
And Brenny has such "good" taste, she deserves a personal Yacht! You go, Brenny girl. :D

Had an ugly week, but won't go into it. It was fighting with receptionists at doctors offices for mom. What have I done?

Everyone have a great weekend.

Nancy

S.S. Cruisers
August 29th, 2009, 02:36 PM
Oh, and Orson and Wexler, I hope you too handsome boys are proud of yourselves, you had me in tears looking at your pictures! And I didn't even make it through them all so will go back for more tears in awhile! Love you boys....

Nancy

dvdfreakmc
August 29th, 2009, 09:11 PM
Sorry you have had such a struggle the first cruise out GiggleKim! That sounds pretty bad. We have only been on Holland America and have never had a problem in four times with Werin now. I do go over our specific needs with the Access Department ahead of time and the Guest Relations manager sits down with us once we get on board to go over everything. We then have no less than 3-4 people ask us if everything is to our satisfaction.

We've had several times were Werin was the only service dog and also several where there were multiples.

Quampapetet
August 30th, 2009, 01:26 AM
I have NEVER had the International Health Certificate withing 48 hours of cruising. It's been within the year of travel; sometimes within 3 months; sometimes within 6 months.

I also have NEVER been denied access to the cruise by the TSA/Immigration or Princess Cruiselines officials.

The rules Mexico has set up require it to be within 48 hours. You're lucky you haven't gotten caught or they haven't cared (or known their own rules) if they did look at the date, but the rules are 48 hours and I am not going to defy the rules or post anything contrary to them, especially if it would possibly make somebody not able to get off at a ship port or airport.

Sure, not everybody follows the rules - the vet in the Bahamas told me this earlier this year, that not everybody brings their dog to the vet within 48 hours of arrival like the requirements state (for a land vacation) - but that doesn't make it okay and someday they may crack down on offenders, which might put somebody who read info. on here in a tricky or sad situation.

And, yes, when I'm in the Bahamas for more than ten days, I get another health certificate that is within ten days of my return to the U.S., since the U.S. regulations are within ten days. (This also supports the humane society there and is half as cheap as one in the U.S., so I don't mind doing it even if the U.S. folks never look at it.)

I recommend for people to follow the laws, rules, and regulations, especially when in a foreign country. Everybody can choose their own path.

Quampapetet
August 30th, 2009, 01:34 AM
Quam - Thanks for the info
Denver is toilet trained just not TOILET trained LOL LOL LOL could you imagine our dogs sitting on the toilet I would laugh so hard i would pee my pants if i saw Denver sitting there

Yeah, it would be quite the sight!!!!! :D I wonder if he would ask for a newspaper?! :p

I wish cruise lines knew WHERE they placed the boxes and just told us ahead of time .

Yeah, or at least placed them there before we got on the ship and had to wander around it asking different ppl where it was only to find it didn't yet exist! :rolleyes:

If it was fwd and you were aft why didnt u ask them to move it ? I know almost all lines will ( except disney )

'Cause there wasn't anywhere aft to put it. That level only had decks on the forward half of the ship. The other outdoor area decks were where the pools and stuff were (I assume, since I never went to them). I wished they'd put it on the balcony of my cabin, but they state health regulations which I doubt exist since several other lines put the boxes on balconies! This time I'm going on Carnival and I believe they won't have an issue with a balcony box.

(BTW, it is official - I'm going for sure!!!)

i would have never found it becaujse i have vision loss .

I have read of one (at least) line putting wind chimes at the box's location for visually impaired ppl to find it easily. I think that was for a group service dog cruise, though, so I'm not sure if they do that normally (or if it was the group that did or requested that).

I got all of the info i needed on the policys of each ship ( thanks Rozzy baby ) and I am sending it to the attorney in florida who is presenting my case to DCL . I know this coming DCL cruise is going to be the same locked door story but at least i know now they place it on 7 aft and no where else no matter what so i have a room on 7 aft VERY close so they can just knock on my door when they are there and not me sitting on the floor of the hall with a crying pacing dog who has to poop and pee ....

What a sad image of your pooch! :mad: Terrible they did that to him. That's great that you were able to get a room near the box, though! I hope it works out better for you this time!!!

Quampapetet
August 30th, 2009, 01:52 AM
We sailed on the Carnival Holiday August 20-24 2009.

Thank you for posting this; my next cruise is a Carnival ship (not the same one), so it is very helpful. I am considering bringing my own doggy potty with me for my balcony (which is plenty big, as I got an aft wrap-around, woohoo! Room for her to play, too! And for me to lay out on sea days and on the evenings and all :D ) because of stories like this and my experience last time with Royal Caribbean. We'll be getting off at every port, but have a couple sea days.

We had to go all the way to the back (imagine a full dinning room lots of waiters running around and trying to get a dog and a wheel chair out and about. -- Dinner goes from about 6-10 and Kali is use to going right before we eat dinner. ahhhh...)

I can't imagine what they were thinking with that one!

Well when we arrived at the back of the dinning room we we interdused to a step 8 inches high. Surprise!!! Jimmie (my husband) is in a power chair ,(which they know due to needing measurements for the wheelchair room!!) How are you to get a wheelchair over that I do not know, what where they thinking? With Kali needing to use to washroom, I thought I would try to take her out.

This proves they were NOT thinking!!!! Arrgh! That is COMPLETELY unacceptable.

At first the ppl on the RC ship told me the potty was on the helipad, which is only accessible by stairs. I'm not in a chair and I can do small amounts of stairs when I have to, but that sure wouldn't work for somebody in a wheelchair or who can't do stairs, so I was surprised when they said this! (When they finally got the box out, they ended up placing it before the stairs, so it would have been accessible to all. The only issue with other passengers we had was debarkation day, when the only hallway you can use to get to where the box was was the hallway they used for debarkation and some rude people refused to let me through the crowd even though I was polite as could be and some of them, well, weren't! Grr. Wished I could've said, "Unless you want my dog to crap on your shoe, you will let me through!!" :p )

We where then told this is a staff only area so we are not to hang out here, just let Kali do her stuff then leave. Well the litter box was also right beside 3 VERY large loud fans.
I then tryed to explain that this area was not suitable at all. They tryed to tell us that this is the area the last service dog used so we would have to make it work due to no where else being availabe. I'm sorry but Kali is my husbands dog, not mine and it is his responsability for dog business so he must be able to get to relief area, and Kali can not go to the washroom beside very large load fans blowing on her and the litter.
I was told this was the only area available so it would have to work. The past guest made it work and we would to. At this point I was getting VERY VERY upset. I do not care about the past guest. We are not them and our needs are different and we will be respected.

Ugh, that is so frustrating!! Since when did one solution work for all people?! Even "one size fits all" clothing doesn't actually fit all!

I then spoke with the manager. She said the only other option was going to be in the kid area beside the pool, and we would have to call the guest services desk everytime Kali needed the box so they could bring it out for us. She is a service dog, and she should be on a schedule. Yes she is a very routine dog, but wait a minute. We are on vacation our routine is not at all close to daily schedule so how can hers?? And number two she is so stressed how do we know ahead of time when we needed to take her, it goes on when we feel she might need to try again. Number three -- a kids area?? What are they thinking? Do they not know how kids react around a dog?? They want to play together. How can a dog consintrait on the washroom (that they hate to begin with) when kids want to play with them. Number four -- beside a pool. What is better kids to play with? or a pool to play in??? Again another arguement on my hands.

CrAzY. Just how many complaints would they (and you) get from parents concerning a dog excreting by the kids' pool and play area?! TONS!!

Sorry option one and two are NOT acceptable, and I will get something that works. Finolly they came up with option three. They where able to put the box in the port side embarkation door. This option worked out very well. She had a quite area away from traffic, and it even was on the same floor as our room (that was just a coincidence). Finolly when she got use to using the litter box (and not able to hold on any longer!!) She used the box for pee, but would do her other business in the box. Just beside. (well at least we could clean that one up and put it in the box!!). We asked where we are to put the garbage, I was told to leave it there. (I had baged it for them at least) The litter area only got cleaned one time when we where on the boat for 4 day cruise. The smell was strong but, at least she had somewhere to finolly go that worked out well.

I'm so glad you finally got a good enough spot!! That stinks (literally, haha) that they only cleaned it once. I think RC only cleaned the box once, too, but it didn't stink 'cause it was outside. That was wood chips. What did Carnival give you?

Quampapetet
August 30th, 2009, 02:10 AM
1. ALWAYS talk to the "Access/Care" Department of the cruise line before you cruise. Let them know about your special needs; potty box/filler/placement/no locked doors, etc. (I know that sometimes there's a huge gap between the cummunication and the ship) but, you may get someone who has great enthusiasm and will address your issues.

Yeah, do be prepared in case what you told the cruise line never got to the ship. I requested a medical fridge for my cabin and when I asked the room steward about it, he said it was not listed on my paperwork, even though I filled out the cruise line's paperwork for it! :rolleyes: I'm not even sure they knew the dog was coming, LOL, since they took forever with the paperwork when checking in and the box wasn't set up.


2. ALWAYS potty your dog before you get on the ship. This will give you hours to investigate and get the box right before your dog hits that "uncomfortable zone!"

It is key to look for the box as soon as you get on board, before the dog needs it. I pottied my dog before leaving our pre-cruise hotel (which took a while, since we were with a group), but by the time we were checked in, onboard, and found the box (like nailing Jell-O to a tree) she needed it again. Actually, it wasn't that we found the box, it was that we finally found somebody who would set the box up. We were already late for a group meeting and it would take time for them to set the box up, but I had to leave partway through the meeting when my dog let me know she needed the box. Thankfully, it was set up by then.

Of course, if you get on the ship before rooms are ready and the box is to be on your balcony, you might have to say your dog needs to use the box in order to get access to your room.


3. The second you get on the ship and you swipe your Sail & Sign Card, ask to speak with the Hotel Manager or the Cruise Director. Have them meet you in your cabin or go to the information desk.

Even after they tell you where it is, check that location immediately! They told me when in the cruise terminal after they were done with my paperwork where the box was located, so I didn't look for it right away and instead went to where I was to meet up with the other group members. Bad idea to not look for the box right away.


4. You want to know the placement of the box/litter [make sure they've placed enough litter in the box for your dog's comfort] and a guarantee that the door to the box will be OPEN 24/7 for your dog to use.

Absolutely. And be sure it is the right kind of filler, as I know Roz has had issues with in the past (read the first page or two of this thread for more info. on that).


5. We are continuing to use Princess because they are so responsive to our needs. (NCL was also very good, we just didn't like the cruiseline.) The Hotel Manager meets me in my cabin before we cruise to make sure I'm happy with the box. He actually walks with me to the box and asks if it's okay!

On Princess they placed the box in a stairwell, near our cabin [not good for someone in a wheel chair. There's a "lip" that you have to step over to enter the area and the door is quite heavy.] Or, they place the box down the hall in a storage closet. If you have a veranda ask them to put the box on it. My DH doesn't like this but it works great! And, they may balk at this but there's no reason they can't do it, insist!!!!!

That's great that they are so good about it! I wonder what they do for people who need a wheelchair-accessible box area?


We have ALWAYS been good steward's of the box. I pick up the waste in a plastic bag and tie it closed, and either leave it inside the recepticle they provide or I leave it by the outside of the box.

Indeed.

For those of you who have had your box on your cabin's balcony before, what do you do with your used poop bags? I assume the cabin stewards don't go out on balconies (or may forget if the box is out of sight from within the room) so don't throw them out, but obviously you don't want that bag in your room's trash can! The bags I use are biodegradable, but I know you're not allowed to chuck stuff off the ship into the sea, so that wouldn't work.



Brenda is so used to the routine of cruising [our next on September 5th will be her 12th cruise] that she literally walks to the stairwell the moment we get off the elevator and start walking towards our cabin. It's very funny, she thinks it's her own personal yacht!!!!!

She has cruised so much she might think your land home is the real vacation spot!!! :p

Quampapetet
August 30th, 2009, 02:12 AM
We've had several times were Werin was the only service dog and also several where there were multiples.

That is neat that you had other service dogs on board some of your cruises! Was there a box for each dog? Or did the dogs all share one box?

denversees4me
August 31st, 2009, 02:13 AM
you know with such confusion in the cruise lines and the box issues Im wondering if i could get my dog to pee on a strip of the fake grass - i could put a pee pad down under it to catch the pee..... If a line screwed up and didnt have a place for him right away at least I would be prepared ... what would they do ? tell me my dog couldnt pee on board !!! LOL I am hoping it wont take long for the airports to get their acts together too !!! do you know HOW HARD it is to get my dog out after i have flown 3 hours and have 40 min between planes and then we fly for another 3 ... i have to RUN out and potty him them RUN back in and HOPE like heck i didnt miss the connecting plane ... i know a FEW and i mean FEW airports have a place in the secured area for SDs but not that many and non im flying to or thru LOL
Cari and Denver

Quampapetet
August 31st, 2009, 10:37 AM
you know with such confusion in the cruise lines and the box issues Im wondering if i could get my dog to pee on a strip of the fake grass - i could put a pee pad down under it to catch the pee.....

This is why I am seriously considering buying one of those portable doggy potties that is basically just that, though it has a tray for the pee to fall into (I'd line the tray with the super-absorbant pee pads PetEdge sells, for easy clean-up) and a grate to let it go through and on top of the grate is faux grass (which is treated with antibacterial stuff). Most of them are expensive ($150-300), but I just did another Google search yesterday and came upon a cheaper version (starting at $39 for the small size!) that seems to be a knock-off of the expensive version I was looking into. So, I'm going to look into that one more for sure.

I am hoping it wont take long for the airports to get their acts together too !!! do you know HOW HARD it is to get my dog out after i have flown 3 hours and have 40 min between planes and then we fly for another 3 ... i have to RUN out and potty him them RUN back in and HOPE like heck i didnt miss the connecting plane ... i know a FEW and i mean FEW airports have a place in the secured area for SDs but not that many and non im flying to or thru LOL
Cari and Denver

Yeah, I REALLY wish that the new ACAA had required airports to have the now-required potty areas in the secure area instead of just anywhere on airport property. That would make things SO much better and would mean the difference between not pottying the dog due to a connecting flight (or delayed flight when you're still in the terminal, but they keep only delaying it by 20-30 min. segments) and getting to potty the dog while still making the connecting or delayed flight.

If you've ever flown into or through the Atlanta airport, you know how huge it is - they even have subways to get you from one spot to another because of the size of the thing. Where did they decide to put their potty spot? Outside by the pick-up or drop-off areas! Completely not useful unless you purposely make your connection a few hours long, which is ridiculous. Airports of that size should especially have within-security potty areas.

rangeley
August 31st, 2009, 10:53 AM
Just a note for everyone, we have been adding pics to Wexlers website so keep it handy for updates! http://wexler2009.shutterfly.com/

Cindy

wizard-of-roz
August 31st, 2009, 05:03 PM
And Brenny has such "good" taste, she deserves a personal Yacht! You go, Brenny girl. :D

Had an ugly week, but won't go into it. It was fighting with receptionists at doctors offices for mom. What have I done?

Everyone have a great weekend.

Nancy

Nancy: I'm sorry that happened to you and your mom. When I was my Mother's caretaker I remember all the episodes with the doctor's office; and the hospital......it can be a nightmare.

Now, I wish she was just around to share moment's with her!

I hope all goes better in the future....hang in there!

wizard-of-roz
August 31st, 2009, 05:35 PM
you know with such confusion in the cruise lines and the box issues Im wondering if i could get my dog to pee on a strip of the fake grass - i could put a pee pad down under it to catch the pee..... If a line screwed up and didnt have a place for him right away at least I would be prepared ... what would they do ? tell me my dog couldnt pee on board !!! LOL I am hoping it wont take long for the airports to get their acts together too !!! do you know HOW HARD it is to get my dog out after i have flown 3 hours and have 40 min between planes and then we fly for another 3 ... i have to RUN out and potty him them RUN back in and HOPE like heck i didnt miss the connecting plane ... i know a FEW and i mean FEW airports have a place in the secured area for SDs but not that many and non im flying to or thru LOL
Cari and Denver

The airport potty issue, like so many issues for our dogs will take time!!!! I've tried going into a HC stall in the ladies room and using a puddle pad; giving her the appropriate command.....she refuses to use it!!!!

Brenda now potty's on artificial turf [with a tray], on our patio, at home. I got it from; In The Company of Dogs, it was a bit pricey but considering that I've been using it for over a year and it still looks like new, compared to using sod, that I had to replace every few weeks, it's wonderful.....It's antibacterially treated and she uses it with ease.

Cari: I think you may have something in bringing your own potty box. But, again, you would need the assistance of the cruiseline, to place the box, if you were in an inside cabin. Otherwise you could place it on your veranda. With no headaches!

Quam: As far as what they do with the full bags, whether it's on your veranda or elsewhere.....I made sure that our Steward [in the beginning of the cruise] knew that the bags would be left in the recepticle [trash can] or by the box and I asked that it be removed at the end of each day. I gave him/her an extra tip for being very diligent.

*And, ALWAYS follow the guidelines and laws set down by the cruiseline/TSA or Immigration, in reference to your SD's appropriate paperwork.

kerrytens
August 31st, 2009, 10:15 PM
Just a note for everyone, we have been adding pics to Wexlers website so keep it handy for updates! http://wexler2009.shutterfly.com/

Cindy
I loved the pics of Wexy!!! But, I have to admit the one that got to me was of Bailee - what a sweet face! Her wisdom comes shining through.
Miriam
PS. The one of Wexler kissing John brought tears to my eyes though. Ahh, happy tears though :D

rangeley
September 1st, 2009, 08:23 AM
Sunshine, Love the puppy pics!!! They are adorable. How lucky to be around puppies all the time.

Miriam, Bailee is just the sweetest dog. She hates the camera and takes terrible pictures. Wexy will pose for anything as you can see.

Roz, In case I forget or am not here, have an awsome cruise!!! We will miss having you around. I can't wait to hear how our "superstar" Brenny does!!! Of course we know she will be great!! Please have hubby take pics for us.

Cindy

sunshine426
September 1st, 2009, 08:30 AM
Sunshine, Love the puppy pics!!! They are adorable. How lucky to be around puppies all the time.

Miriam, Bailee is just the sweetest dog. She hates the camera and takes terrible pictures. Wexy will pose for anything as you can see.

Roz, In case I forget or am not here, have an awsome cruise!!! We will miss having you around. I can't wait to hear how our "superstar" Brenny does!!! Of course we know she will be great!! Please have hubby take pics for us.

Cindy

Cindy, I loved the pictures as well. It is funny how similar the training room and it looks like your training camp experience is duplicated down here in the not so sunny south. I am having so much fun on nursery days with those pups. OF course the clean up takes a while to acomplish. I think I spend more time cleaning and sweeping in the nursery than I do at my own house:).

Our cruise is only 90 days away!! Yea. My own dog will be going to "Kamp Kathys". My brother and sister in law love to take her when we go on trips. They live out in the country so she gets to race and chase all over the fields, play in the creek and get lot's of attention from Aunt Kathy and Uncle Terry:D.

TrinaP1204
September 1st, 2009, 12:13 PM
Just a note for everyone, we have been adding pics to Wexlers website so keep it handy for updates! http://wexler2009.shutterfly.com/

Cindy

Great pictures. I recognize one of those as my place of employment haha. Haikey, my husband's service dog, is a regular there. I have made a little "brag book" for my husband to carry along in his wheelchair. It shows Haikey doing some of his chores to help him out.
Since people are constantly stopping us while we are out and asking about just what he does, I have figured out it is true that a picture is worth a thousand words. Saves a lot of time.

Hope This Works

http://s975.photobucket.com/albums/ae233/Trinap1204/Haikey%20Chores/

wizard-of-roz
September 1st, 2009, 12:25 PM
Sunshine, Love the puppy pics!!! They are adorable. How lucky to be around puppies all the time.

Miriam, Bailee is just the sweetest dog. She hates the camera and takes terrible pictures. Wexy will pose for anything as you can see.

Roz, In case I forget or am not here, have an awsome cruise!!! We will miss having you around. I can't wait to hear how our "superstar" Brenny does!!! Of course we know she will be great!! Please have hubby take pics for us.

Cindy


Cindy, I loved, loved the pictures of Wexy......his puppyraisers were amazing, in the way that they treated him. He dressed for every occasion and looked like such a happy little boy. And, then there's Bailey.......Hey! It's the older woman syndrome.....she's supposed to stay aloof and act very cool.

She's a love! She didn't bite Wexy's head off, did she?

Thanks for sharing the wonderful pictures and give John, Wexy and Bailee a big kiss from Miss Brenny and me!

I promise to come back and share stories of Brenda's demo onboard the Golden.

sunshine426
September 1st, 2009, 12:30 PM
Great pictures. I recognize one of those as my place of employment haha. Haikey, my husband's service dog, is a regular there. I have made a little "brag book" for my husband to carry along in his wheelchair. It shows Haikey doing some of his chores to help him out.
Since people are constantly stopping us while we are out and asking about just what he does, I have figured out it is true that a picture is worth a thousand words. Saves a lot of time.

Hope This Works

http://s975.photobucket.com/albums/ae233/Trinap1204/Haikey%20Chores/

Trina, Thanks for sharing those great pictures. It is wonderful seeing a dog out in the real word doing all those commands they have been taught.

wizard-of-roz
September 1st, 2009, 12:31 PM
Great pictures. I recognize one of those as my place of employment haha. Haikey, my husband's service dog, is a regular there. I have made a little "brag book" for my husband to carry along in his wheelchair. It shows Haikey doing some of his chores to help him out.
Since people are constantly stopping us while we are out and asking about just what he does, I have figured out it is true that a picture is worth a thousand words. Saves a lot of time.

Hope This Works

http://s975.photobucket.com/albums/ae233/Trinap1204/Haikey%20Chores/

Trina: Thank you for sharing the wonderful pictures of a very hard worker; "Haikey!"

Isn't it a miracle what these dogs can do. There's no limit to what they will extend themselves to do. All they want is a big "thank you" or "good" and, they're so happy to complete a task. They always amaze me!

kerrytens
September 1st, 2009, 10:25 PM
:D:D He's arrived! JJ is now in my house! His breeder came here just after dinner tonight and left about 20 minutes ago. Well, JJ is feeling quite at home already and happily playing with some new toys in the kitchen with me while I announce his arrival to my CC friends.

OMG, what a lover this boy is. Big time kisser and snuggler! I can't wait to take him for our first walk - going to use that as some Hannah/JJ bonding time as she wasn't terribly sure at first site but as the evening progressed, she would peek around the corner looking for him. Before bed, she said to me 'see you tomorrow Maggie' (thinking it was Maddie back :) )

Anyway, I hope to be able to figure out this photo thing soon so I can send all of you a pic of a super sweet puppy! Time to go cuddle again!!!

Miriam

kerrytens
September 1st, 2009, 10:29 PM
PS. I forgot to tell you about his registered name (I'm a geek when it comes to them and since he didn't have his official name yet, I racked my brain)

So, with my seriously warped mind I wanted to somehow make JJ make sense as a call name - for those of you who were old enough to remember, there was a show with the main character's name being JJ.

My JJ is now officially Symphonie's Good Times which means I seem to be continuing a tradition now with my kerries of naming them after TV shows. Madison was Can. Ch. Symphonie's Mad About You.

OK - night!!! But I am FAR too excited to go to bed :)

Miriam

Quampapetet
September 2nd, 2009, 01:26 AM
Brenda now potty's on artificial turf [with a tray], on our patio, at home. I got it from; In The Company of Dogs, it was a bit pricey but considering that I've been using it for over a year and it still looks like new, compared to using sod, that I had to replace every few weeks, it's wonderful.....It's antibacterially treated and she uses it with ease.

That's the brand (PupHead) I was looking at, though I didn't like the price (for just a week-long cruise; I wouldn't use it at home except to get her used to it before the cruise). In my most recent search, I found a knock-off version for much less money! It is $35-40 for the small size and $40 more for the large size (though you have to add $13 in shipping to that, of course, LOL, but still a much better price than the PupHead brand!).

To find it, Google "portable dog potty" and it should be in the Sponsored Ads at the top. It is called "Potty Patch". Click on the link from Google and check it out. If you want to purchase it, try to exit the page (i.e. push your "Back" button) and it will tell you there is a special offer for you. The offer should be to buy the potty for $5 less ($35 or $75 depending on the size).

Note: To bring it on a cruise, you'd have to either mail it down to your pre-cruise hotel or bring it on the plane as checked luggage, but the large potty is too large as checked luggage (at least on the airline I checked - it is just over the max. linear measurement). So, you could buy two small ones and place them together to form the same size as the large one. (Or, buy three or four small ones to form a larger space.)

I am seriously thinking of getting some of these for the cruise. I just need to figure out how many. Oh, and I would be lining the trays with PetEdge's brand of piddle pads to make clean-up easier (I'm not about to carry a tray of urine through the cabin and dumping it over the balcony would only land it on the balcony below, LOL!). I'd bring some garbage bags to place these in and also to place the boxes upon in case of leakage as well as one to cover the box in case of rain or the cruiseline washing down the windows/balconies.



Quam: As far as what they do with the full bags, whether it's on your veranda or elsewhere.....I made sure that our Steward [in the beginning of the cruise] knew that the bags would be left in the recepticle [trash can] or by the box and I asked that it be removed at the end of each day. I gave him/her an extra tip for being very diligent.



Thanks, I'm glad I won't have to traipse through the ship with a literally crappy bag (haha) trying to find a place to throw it out where the smell wouldn't offend anyone! :p

BTW - I was wrong in a previous post. I think I stated Mexico has a 48-hour rule for the health certificate, but I noticed on a Web site I happened across (while looking up other countries) that it said 72 hours. So you get an extra day. ;)

mered288
September 2nd, 2009, 05:31 PM
I have returned from my first cruise(Aug. 22 on Sea Princess) with a service dog. We had some rough spots (see Icy Strait Point Attack Cat) but overall it was the best vacation I have ever had. I ate better than I do at home.

Sunny enjoyed all the attention he got as the only dog on the ship. He was probably the most photographed being on the ship. He had off duty social time on the Promenade Deck every day. That is where the potty box was. It was actually two 2.5 foot square wooden boxes put together, covered in plastic, and filled with mulch. There was a garbage can next to the box for any deposits. We liked this placement as Sunny will not potty indoors and needs exercise before pooping.

Everyone wanted to know two things. The first is the usual "Where does he go potty?" The second question I was not expecting was "How much did you pay to bring him?" It took me a while to figure out they did not know what service dog was and wanted to cruise with their pet. Why anyone would want to do that is beyond me. Maybe they think they can just leave the pet in their room when they do not want it? I really wanted to go to dog sled summer camp but would not put my service dog in that environment.

My family wants me to plan another cruise. We were thinking about a New England/Canada cruise next year(2010). I have never traveled outside the US with Sunshine unless you count the walk in Victoria, BC. I doubt we would be covered but does anyone know where I can find service dog laws for New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, and Quebec? If we start in Quebec how would we get from the airport to the ship? Will tour operators allow service dogs on tours if not required?

TrinaP1204
September 2nd, 2009, 05:39 PM
You mentioned yours being the most photographed. We can relate to that too. At Hubbard Glacier, everyone was out on the deck looking at Hubbard Glacier, obviously. The ship's photographer was out there taking pics of passengers. Haikey was having a little playtime with his ball. One picture I took was so funny. The people are eventually all turned looking at Haikey playing with his ball. Now how many dogs can they say get people's attention distracted from Hubbard Glacier? lol

The ship's photographer was having a blast with Haikey. He knows how to strike a pose. The girl on formal night was kinda apprehensive about shooting a pic with a dog in it. Once he saw the camera and we said "STAY", he knew he was in for a photo shoot. He was eating it up and she was having a blast getting him to pose. So funny.

At the photo gallery they told us eventually people were coming up asking where the pictures were of the service dog.

denversees4me
September 2nd, 2009, 10:23 PM
ok so lame ? but i have a friend who said you didnt need a passport if you were sailing in and out of us ports im assuming that baja ( ensanada ) is a US port and this is what he ment?
also the grass let me check because if anyone is interested i think i know a place who has it for 25 for a 3x3 i would just roll it up and put it in a trash bag and pack it on my cruise i would just lay it over the mulch in the box and call it good and for 20 bucks i would leave it behind maybe leave some info on it and hope that the cruise line might use it again LOL and get a clue:p;):D:):o
cari and Denver

rangeley
September 3rd, 2009, 03:21 PM
Trina, Thanks so much for sharing your pictures with us. I loved them. Haikey is adorable and very smart. Did your dog come from CCI?

Miriam, CONGRATS!!! We are so happy for you!! I'm sure JJ and Hannah will be the best of friends. As we know it takes time. I go home to Connecticut 2 days a week and this is the first time that Bailee seemed alittle off. But when I told her we were coming back, she perked up and ran to the car. It almost made me think she missed Wexy?? Maybe?? Could this be?? John and Wex will be home soon and I can't wait to see her reaction. Please try to post some pics. It's pretty easy, so if you need help just ask.

Cindy

TrinaP1204
September 3rd, 2009, 08:03 PM
Trina, Thanks so much for sharing your pictures with us. I loved them. Haikey is adorable and very smart. Did your dog come from CCI?

Miriam, CONGRATS!!! We are so happy for you!! I'm sure JJ and Hannah will be the best of friends. As we know it takes time. I go home to Connecticut 2 days a week and this is the first time that Bailee seemed alittle off. But when I told her we were coming back, she perked up and ran to the car. It almost made me think she missed Wexy?? Maybe?? Could this be?? John and Wex will be home soon and I can't wait to see her reaction. Please try to post some pics. It's pretty easy, so if you need help just ask.

Cindy

Not sure what CCI is but he came from a place called Therapetics in Tulsa, Oklahoma near us.

S.S. Cruisers
September 4th, 2009, 09:23 AM
Mornin' all!

Miriam: That is such great news about JJ. And how adorable is that, that Hannah thinks its Maddie! Hopefully she will warm right up to him. Can't wait to see pictures. I sat for two hours last saturday, with my phone plugged into the computer, trying to figure out how to get the down/upload to work. Nothing in my phone instructions really tells this bone head exactly how to do it. I am a visual kinda gal, SHOW ME! Anyway, I have used the "paperclip" on the line with the font style, size and color, on this reply page. It says "attachments" and if you click, it goes to "my computer menu" and I choose pictures etc. The only problem, since I can't the pictures downloaded to computer, my picture selection is limited! Maybe try that feature. I am not sure why no one has suggested using the paperclip attachment before. It seems easier for me than saving to photobucket or whatever. I'm sure there is a reason, its just over my head!

Everyone keep the photos coming. It tears me up seeing all our sweet babies, but I love it! There is a sign on our mailboxes (cluster boxes) for a free Yellow Lab. Five years old, neutered, owner can't keep him. I don't even like to think about it. I miss by big ole lug Reno, but just can't get another dog, right now.

Everyone have a great Friday and weekend, its sneaking up on us!

Nancy

sunshine426
September 4th, 2009, 07:23 PM
Mornin' all!

Miriam: That is such great news about JJ. And how adorable is that, that Hannah thinks its Maddie! Hopefully she will warm right up to him. Can't wait to see pictures. I sat for two hours last saturday, with my phone plugged into the computer, trying to figure out how to get the down/upload to work. Nothing in my phone instructions really tells this bone head exactly how to do it. I am a visual kinda gal, SHOW ME! Anyway, I have used the "paperclip" on the line with the font style, size and color, on this reply page. It says "attachments" and if you click, it goes to "my computer menu" and I choose pictures etc. The only problem, since I can't the pictures downloaded to computer, my picture selection is limited! Maybe try that feature. I am not sure why no one has suggested using the paperclip attachment before. It seems easier for me than saving to photobucket or whatever. I'm sure there is a reason, its just over my head!

Everyone keep the photos coming. It tears me up seeing all our sweet babies, but I love it! There is a sign on our mailboxes (cluster boxes) for a free Yellow Lab. Five years old, neutered, owner can't keep him. I don't even like to think about it. I miss by big ole lug Reno, but just can't get another dog, right now.

Everyone have a great Friday and weekend, its sneaking up on us!

Nancy

Nancy, I remain superchallenged posting pictures, but am able to email them. If you want email me at ramays@charter.net and I'll send you puppy pictures.

kerrytens
September 4th, 2009, 08:39 PM
Hi everyone,
Thanks for all of the congrats - JJ continues to amaze me daily. He is the most laid back, quiet pup I've ever owned ... but no worries, he does have his puppy moments of extreme activity :D
Taking Sunshine's paperclip advice here and giving that photo posting thing a go (I do plan on learning how to do it through photobucket one day though since I do want to do a review of Hannah's first cruise with photos, of course!!)
This is a photo of JJ with my brother - basically the only way to get a decent shot of him is to have someone hold him.

Miriam
Hooray, it worked!!!

flsunnymommy
September 5th, 2009, 12:02 AM
Hi Folks! I know I have not been following since our issue on our cruise. We have cruised once since without Chewy. I think we are ready to try taking him again now that I have personally met a person from RCL special needs department. We are looking at going to Jamaica and Haiti. I know I asked before, but does anyone know if service dogs are allowed in Haiti? We cruise only with Autism on the Seas and want to go on an affordable cruise out of Florida. We will also be going with another Autism service dog on our next cruise.

Quampapetet
September 5th, 2009, 04:47 AM
Dogs aren't allowed to enter into Jamaica (and may not even be allowed in the outside areas of the boat while it is docked there).

I have no idea about Haiti. Can't find anything about it with a Google search. I'm guessing not too many ppl bring their pets there. You'll have to find the number for their tourism office or embassy or similar and call and ask.

rangeley
September 5th, 2009, 10:48 AM
WoooooooHoooooooo Miriam you did it!! and may I say JJ is a cutie!! Now that you know how to do it, we will expect more.

Cindy

S.S. Cruisers
September 5th, 2009, 11:57 AM
Mornin' all:
Nancy, I remain superchallenged posting pictures, but am able to email them. If you want email me at ramays@charter.net and I'll send you puppy pictures.
Sunshine: Yes, all animal pictures, as a matter of fact! :Dcruiser_nancy@hotmail.com. I am now also mad at my phone. I had a picture of Leann Emily and Jezzy Lou as the home page photo. They kept sending an update message for stuff I don't need and won't use. Well, hubby thought it best to do the update. Well, I have lost the home page picture, it is still in the phone, but I cannot for the life of me get it back on the home page. UGHHHHHH. It just keeps eating at the back of my mind, along with not being to upload/download any of my pictures on my phone or camera.

Miriam: Yeah, you did it, you did it. JJ has a cute little face! Hope to see more photos.

Hope everyone has a great holiday weekend. Nothing going on here..........

Nancy

flsunnymommy
September 6th, 2009, 01:28 PM
Thanks for the help. Our next cruise will be August 2010 going to Key West, Cozumel and the Bahamas as all service dog friendly. We will be going with Autism on the Seas and so far already have one other service dog team going with us!!!

Quampapetet
September 7th, 2009, 01:22 AM
I did Key West and Cozumel on my previous cruise (as well as two ports I couldn't get off at - Grand Cayman and Jamaica). Did the butterfly conservatory and Margaritaville in Key West and a beach (Playa Mia?) in Cozumel. If you do the beach, be sure to rent an umbrella for shade for the pooch. And if the dog is light-colored and/or thin-furred, use canine sunblock, too.

flsunnymommy
September 7th, 2009, 12:49 PM
I forget where we went in Cozumel, one of the beaches, but they would not let Chewy past a certain point near the entrance. We ended up spending the day on the ship. Now we want to make sure everywhere we go is service dog friendly as my son was not happy.

Quampapetet
September 8th, 2009, 04:50 PM
The Cozumel beach I went to was just fine with my SD. (I had contacted them before I bought the ticket there, to ask if non-guide SDs were allowed, since Mexico only has laws for guide dog access, and they said no problem.) We sat on the beach, ate at the buffet, and she pottied in a grassy area behind the beach.

I believe it was Playa Mia, but I'm certain it was this ShoreTrips all-inclusive package I purchased: http://www.shoretrips.com/common/search4.asp?rcode=CAR&lcode=CZM&tcode=012430 .

(Oh, and I printed out the e-mails I had that said my SD was allowed, but I never needed to show them for that beach or for a store we went into [I knew I wanted to go there before the trip].)

rangeley
September 10th, 2009, 03:31 PM
Hi Everyone, We have decided to take a cruise in January. And we will be taking Wexler. So now I actually need info from you guys. We planned an easy trip, actually one we've taken a few years back. But I figured for our first dog cruise I would make it easy. St Thomas and Puerto Rico just require rabies cert. right?? Do I need any forms to fill out from those countries? Do I notify them we are coming? We are also going to Grand Turk, and I know nothing about that island. Now I know Bahamas is tough, but we are going to a private island. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Cindy

Quampapetet
September 11th, 2009, 01:42 AM
The cruise line will give you a form to fill out for them.

St. Thomas and Puerto Rico need the health certificate (I bring a copy of the actual rabies certificate, too, in case they want more info. than the vet puts on the health certificate - actually happened to me once, when the vet forgot to say it was a three-year rabies vaccine, but I had the rabies certificate to show so didn't have an issue [this was with the vet in the Bahamas that checks the paperwork and dog for stays longer than 48 hours {land trip}]). Remember that the ADA is effective in both the U.S. Virgin Islands and Puerto Rico 'cause they're territories of the U.S.. :-)

The Bahamas isn't tough, you just need to send for an import permit (which is free for service dogs) months ahead of time (send for it NOW for Jan.! They are on island time and take a while to get things through their system, sometimes several months! Trust me, I do it every year. Sent in for two about a month ago and am waiting to get the permits, but wouldn't be surprised if they didn't come 'til Nov. even though I need the first for Dec.). And get the int'l health certificate from your vet, of course. For a cruise, you apparently don't have to do the seeing-the-Bahamian-vet part of the requirements since you are there less than 48 hrs.

Grand Turk you need the int'l health certificate as well. It is an island that is part of the Turks & Caicos. It is very small - you can see the whole island from the ship, from what I've read on here and seen photos of. Going to the beaches is free, though, which is nice! :-)

I'm also going to the same countries on my upcoming cruise (though to Nassau instead of a private island).

BTW, I absolutely LOVE your cruise ticker with the dog running on the beach!!! :-D

What cruiseline are you going on? Are you getting a balcony cabin to use for the potty box or will you have it placed in a different spot? I'm thinking of making my own for my upcoming cruise (it'd be cheaper than buying a couple small ones - and more portable, too!).

rangeley
September 11th, 2009, 10:56 AM
Thanks for all the info Quam!!! I knew you would be the one that would have all the info. We are going on Holland America and we do have a balcony, but I don't know if the box will fit on the balcony. We have the first room at the front of the ship. We have stayed in the room before and right outside our door there are 2 doors that lead out to a deck that people can go out to smoke or just sit. We are going to request they put the box there. John will not be able to go out there because of a lip at the doorways, but I will be able to take him to potty. Also if they can open the partition on our balcony, the potty box will be right there. When Wexlers gotta go, he's gotta go right now, so we cannot have the box too far away. Thanks for all the info and I guess I'll start working on it right now.

Cindy

sunshine426
September 11th, 2009, 09:25 PM
Story Time: Today at work I was watching for my last surgical patient of the day to arrive. When I saw her come into the room and climb onto the hospital bed, my heart melted. She looked like she was trying to be brave as big fat tears rolled down her cheeks. After greeting her, and giving her the first of my "no shots, no sticks while you are awake" pep talk, she still looked sad. I called our child life specialist to help out as I switched to caring for a post op child. The child life specialst told me that this child's mom had metastatic colon cancer and had been undergoing one treatment after another for a few years. She worked with her a bit. Later I spoke with mom outside of the room. I told her at this time I was just going to keep things very low key, but if I found a window with her daughter I might just climb thru it. She was in agreement. As I went in to beguin the basic check in process I noticed she was holding a suffed golden retirever. You guessed it, we started talking about dogs, puppies, and all the wonderful things they did. Luckly I was able to access my home email acct wheree I had some recent puppy pictures. Pretty soon everyone was smiling and laughing. So, thanks to all these pups in training, they brought a small ray of sunshine into the hopsital today. She was still a bit tearfull off and on, but at least I had found her soft spot, and yep, I exploited it.

Quampapetet
September 12th, 2009, 08:09 AM
Thanks for all the info Quam!!! I knew you would be the one that would have all the info. We are going on Holland America and we do have a balcony, but I don't know if the box will fit on the balcony. We have the first room at the front of the ship. We have stayed in the room before and right outside our door there are 2 doors that lead out to a deck that people can go out to smoke or just sit. We are going to request they put the box there. John will not be able to go out there because of a lip at the doorways, but I will be able to take him to potty. Also if they can open the partition on our balcony, the potty box will be right there. When Wexlers gotta go, he's gotta go right now, so we cannot have the box too far away. Thanks for all the info and I guess I'll start working on it right now.


No problem. :)

That's cool that you're at the very front and there's a public deck you can put the box on and open a partition to get to! Just be sure to keep your balcony door locked in case anybody thinks your balcony is part of the public deck.... ;)

I'm at the very back of my ship, so it struck me as funny that you're at the very front of yours (plus we're going to the same countries)! Or maybe I'm just not quite awake yet so pretty much anything is funny at this point, haha! :p

Is there no lip to getting into the room? If it is an accessible room, ask if they have ramps for the balcony - I know some lines do that, as I've seen photos.

BTW, the form to send in to get the import permit for the Bahamas is: http://www.bahamas.com/sites/default/files/pdf/Bahamas_Application_to_Import_Domestic_Animals_in_ TIOTB.pdf

rangeley
September 12th, 2009, 09:54 AM
Story Time: Today at work I was watching for my last surgical patient of the day to arrive. When I saw her come into the room and climb onto the hospital bed, my heart melted. She looked like she was trying to be brave as big fat tears rolled down her cheeks. After greeting her, and giving her the first of my "no shots, no sticks while you are awake" pep talk, she still looked sad. I called our child life specialist to help out as I switched to caring for a post op child. The child life specialst told me that this child's mom had metastatic colon cancer and had been undergoing one treatment after another for a few years. She worked with her a bit. Later I spoke with mom outside of the room. I told her at this time I was just going to keep things very low key, but if I found a window with her daughter I might just climb thru it. She was in agreement. As I went in to beguin the basic check in process I noticed she was holding a suffed golden retirever. You guessed it, we started talking about dogs, puppies, and all the wonderful things they did. Luckly I was able to access my home email acct wheree I had some recent puppy pictures. Pretty soon everyone was smiling and laughing. So, thanks to all these pups in training, they brought a small ray of sunshine into the hopsital today. She was still a bit tearfull off and on, but at least I had found her soft spot, and yep, I exploited it.



OMG Sunshine what a story! It's amazing how many times you use your puppies in your everyday life. Whether it's to teach or just to cheer someone up. You should be proud of what you do. :D Today we are going to meet some puppy raisers in our area. They meet and have classes every so often. They asked John to talk alittle on how the dog is working out. They are all thrilled he will be there as they all want to meet and greet a graduate, since their ultimate goal is for their pups to graduate.

Quam, Thanks so much for that Bahamas form. There are no ramps to get into the room, but there is one to get to the balcony. The door is very heavy and I have to help him get out on the deck. He cannot do it himself. So I will be taking the dog potty the whole cruise.

Cindy

sunshine426
September 12th, 2009, 10:27 AM
How much fun is it going to be to meet the puppy raisers and for them to see Wexler at work. I have a 16 week old golden male downstairs adjusting to crate time. I'll actually have this guy until he graduates. He still lives at the training facility most of the time, but I'll have him for outings and home visits and be his primary volunteer. They are trying out a new system to see if it helps the pups with more consistency. Of course it is still good for them to be exposed to other people as well, which is why it is still not puppy raising. Anyway, I am going to be taking lot's of pictures, so when he graduates his new person can see his first two years. I actually had this little guy at my house about a month ago so I have some great pics. He is recovering from JPinn Hip surgery and neutering, so I am trying to keep him quiet, no jumping or running for a few days, Really, a puppy no jumping, no running....Which is why he is having some longer crate time. Plus snuggles on the floor.

Andar
September 13th, 2009, 04:05 PM
I have had public access training and I know people are just curious and want their puppy fixes, etc. But we just got back from our second cruise with Bailey and I could not believe how rude and disruptive people were.

Our previous cruise had the 'normal' number of sd inquires but this one was unbelieveable. We were both so tired by the end of the day and I really had a hard time keeping positive with the public (and crew).

Please help me with feedback, I don't know what I could have done differently without being rude back - and I felt I was with the one guy that kept asking me yeah, but what is wrong with you??

Here is my venting but believe me it was constant.
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We're back from our 10-day Alaska cruise. We really did have a great time. There was one day at sea that was challenging for many people due to the winds and high seas. There were several broken bones as a result of falls, one helicopter evacuation, and many seasick passengers.


I am proud to say, Bailey did just fine. She was VERY tired of people by the last day. I kept her on my lap covered with a light blanket so she could get a break.

I had to wipe lipstick off her head at night, from women kissing her. I know people think they are being friendly and are curious, but it is so frustrating to answer the same questions - hundreds of times of day. Bailey gets over stimulated when constantly being petted called to, and get this, barked at. Honestly, one server would always bark at her when he saw her - even from the other side of the room. There were very few children on the ship but they all knew how to behave - it was the ADULTS that were a pain.


While people are told to ask before petty a service dog, many don't and it is hard to say no to nice people just wanting to a 'dog fix' because they miss their own pets- especially if we are just sitting down relaxing.

However, none of us understood the big attraction of a dog going to the bathroom. Bailey had a relief box on the promenade deck - the outdoor deck that circles the ship . While in her little corner using the potty box, she would draw a crowd. She would then stop what she was suppose to be doing and stare back at the people. We would have to ask them to move along as it made her nervous to have a crowd. Seriously, it got where I would park the scooter to block the 'view' and Jim, Jeff and I would stand with our backs to Bailey, face out, like a police line protecting her. This would be too funny if it wasn't so disruptive to taking care of business - especially with rough seas!

Can you imagine asking a stranger, “What is wrong with you?” Me neither, but when going from the cabin to the dinning room it happened numerous times. I explained Bailey is a medical alert dog, and helps me with my disability. That is good enough 80% of the time. If someone kept asking personal questions, I would finally say, “Gosh, I don’t feel comfortable discussing my personal medical issues with strangers.” It is a good thing I have improved my impulse control and ability filter my words a little or I would have exploded dozens of times a day and killed several idiots. Especially when people would barge right into our personal conversations and disrupt our family's vacation time. Thank you Jim, Laura, Jeff, Patti, John, and everyone else who didn't sign on for this.

There were several times that people distracting Bailey was dangerous for both of us. Exiting a crowded elevator, backwards on a scooter, with a service dog, takes concentration- especially for a stroke survivor. Once, I gave her the command ‘back’ and she was going out of the elevator while I was backing the scooter. Most people we great and cleared a space, but one woman stopped Bailey - she literally blocked our path. I almost ran over Bailey, then the doors closed - squeezing my hand against the scooter before they re-opened. The scooter does not stop on a dime and I need time to react. I said “oh, please don’t distract her while she is working” and the lady said, but she is so cute! The other passengers waiting to get in the elevator appeared frustrated too –they had to wait while we could get clear for them to enter and be on their way. I was nearly in tears by the time I made it through the crowds and was safe.

While I feel so grateful to have Bailey, and be able to travel because I have her, feel I must vent about this 'other aspect' of having a service dog. I fantasize about a day when people think nothing of a service dog and go about their own business.

It really isn't the individual questions or actions of well meaning people that cause additional stress and hardship, but rather the cumulative effect many - whether we are just trying to grocery shop or vacation.
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Help, please, I am trying to regain my social skills after a brain injury and family are supportive and just said you did fine. I need to hear from other sd owners how they handle these kind of situations.
Once, a person asked Jim if they could take a picture while he was hurrying to the relief box. When he said not now, the person ran after him with a camera, and continued to snap pictures. :eek:

Quampapetet
September 13th, 2009, 06:59 PM
We're back from our 10-day Alaska cruise. We really did have a great time. There was one day at sea that was challenging for many people due to the winds and high seas. There were several broken bones as a result of falls, one helicopter evacuation, and many seasick passengers.

Yikes!! That sounds scary! You said Bailey did fine, but how were you?! LOL. I would not be doing so well! ;)


I had to wipe lipstick off her head at night, from women kissing her. I know people think they are being friendly and are curious, but it is so frustrating to answer the same questions - hundreds of times of day. Bailey gets over stimulated when constantly being petted called to, and get this, barked at. Honestly, one server would always bark at her when he saw her - even from the other side of the room. There were very few children on the ship but they all knew how to behave - it was the ADULTS that were a pain.

Did you complain to the head waiter and/or the front desk about this rude waiter? He most definitely should never have done that, especially more than once! Even if you didn't catch his name, the head waiter could've told all the waiters to never distract a service dog, as this is something they all need to know anyway.

I think Roz one time had her cruise's paper have a paragraph asking ppl not to distract the dog anymore. I think I recall something about that from the very early pages of this thread.

If ppl try to pet your dog, some folks find it helps if you fake correct the dog when it happens ("It's not time to get petted now,"). It makes (some) ppl feel bad that what they did made the dog get a correction. This might help you if you don't like talking to other ppl/asking them not to distract your dog.

I don't know if your dog wears a harness, vest, pack, or combination of two of those, but make sure somewhere on there in large, capital, non-script/easy-to-read letters it says "DO NOT TOUCH".

It is a bit easier when you're in a state that has a law against distracting a service dog (so you can tell ppl what they are doing is illegal), since you can't say that on a cruise ship or in a foreign country that doesn't have such laws. But you can still give them the evil eye and tell them not to distract your dog.


However, none of us understood the big attraction of a dog going to the bathroom. Bailey had a relief box on the promenade deck - the outdoor deck that circles the ship . While in her little corner using the potty box, she would draw a crowd. She would then stop what she was suppose to be doing and stare back at the people. We would have to ask them to move along as it made her nervous to have a crowd. Seriously, it got where I would park the scooter to block the 'view' and Jim, Jeff and I would stand with our backs to Bailey, face out, like a police line protecting her. This would be too funny if it wasn't so disruptive to taking care of business - especially with rough seas!

I didn't have that issue when we were on a public deck, since it was not in a place many ppl went. Was there anywhere else on the ship they could've put the box?

Sometimes you have to stop being all nicey-nice to ppl who distract your dog. Did you ever ask the cruise if they could do something about this?

Can you imagine asking a stranger, “What is wrong with you?” Me neither, but when going from the cabin to the dinning room it happened numerous times. I explained Bailey is a medical alert dog, and helps me with my disability. That is good enough 80% of the time. If someone kept asking personal questions, I would finally say, “Gosh, I don’t feel comfortable discussing my personal medical issues with strangers.” It is a good thing I have improved my impulse control and ability filter my words a little or I would have exploded dozens of times a day and killed several idiots. Especially when people would barge right into our personal conversations and disrupt our family's vacation time. Thank you Jim, Laura, Jeff, Patti, John, and everyone else who didn't sign on for this.

No, I don't at all understand the ppl who ask, "What's wrong with you?" or other rude questions or who demand to know my disabilities (as if they would be so happy to share their own medical history with me!). I really don't get that. It depends on the situation what I do about it - anything from say, "That's personal," to ignore and walk away to selective hearing (this can work wonders! Just pretend you can't hear them - or if you're at a store, walk around with a phone or music headset in your ear[s] and pretend you're on the phone or listening to music, if you don't want to pretend you can't hear them). Sometimes some jerks just don't get the point until you are rude back to them - guess it has to do with speaking their own language! :rolleyes:

Sorry your cruise was so full of idiots. :mad:

Andar
September 13th, 2009, 08:37 PM
I guess I need to get more assertive but I had any type of confrontation. I try to keep a smile on my face and 'put up with it - on the outside"
I did ask them to move her relief box when the storm made it impossible to go out on that deck (they actually locked the doors so we had no access to it).

It wasn't just the server that barked at her, it happened twice in ports and numerous times on the ship - what is with that??
I did hear the head waiter tell the server not to do that, but he did it again other nights.

Bailey does have a red vest and it says medical alert dog working, please do not distract. One guy said he thought it said 'medical alert dog - needs work!"

When we cruised before there was a separate group from GDB. They had Delta flyers distributed to all the rooms about service dogs. I don't know how expensive it would be, but I might look into it for the next cruise. It would be so worth it. Also, may suggest an information hour where other passengers can get their questions answered all at once.
I really don't mind educating the public but this was just so over the top most of the time it really cut into our vacation time.

Andar
September 13th, 2009, 10:49 PM
I keep thinking of the hundreds of brave veterans with brain injuries being paired with sds. One of the difficulty with brain injuries is coping with frustration and interaction with people. It would be nice to hae some 'catch phases" to use in those tough situations with the dogs.

S.S. Cruisers
September 15th, 2009, 12:07 AM
Darcie:
No offense or light hearted banter for your situation, but BITE ME comes to mind as a standard answer to imbosoles (sp) and I can't even spell it! I try not to be rude to people but there comes a time and place where "none of your business" should answer the "die hardest" idiot that would even consider fronting you off! And poor little Bailee, all she wanted to do was serve Mama and go potty in peace when she had to!

I haven't posted in awhile. Over whelmed with everything right now. But just wanted you all to know: I heard, not directly from the source, so could be considered a rumor, but that our superintendant has asked our special needs teacher, who has a SD, what specific disability she has! :eek:I also heard that the super has sent letters? inquiries to this teachers doctor for answers! :eek:. She sent "people" to get the doctors name, address etc. ! :eek: Doesn't feel poor Biscuit should be on campus! :eek: I am mortified to say the least...........It is so far out of the relm of reality that I cannot even believe a degree of it could be right!

Ok, slipping off the soap box and slithering away........

Nancy

Valentine's Mom
September 15th, 2009, 12:45 AM
I keep thinking of the hundreds of brave veterans with brain injuries being paired with sds. One of the difficulty with brain injuries is coping with frustration and interaction with people. It would be nice to hae some 'catch phases" to use in those tough situations with the dogs.



Andar


Although I have been traveling with Valentine for several years now I took her, my sister, and my elderly mother on a short cruise from Baltimore to the Bahamas. It started out to be a nightmare. They started by saying that only 1 person knew anything at all as to what to do to get a service dog on board. I had all her papers and Valentine has only been on 8 Carnival cruises, 3 RCCL 1 Costa and 1 NCL so we do know the routine.

This time I was caring for my mother and my sister had never cruised before, I also had full care for Valentine (which my husband usually did)

Anyway with Valentine only weighing 10lbs. I use a special roller bag for dogs and she rides all the way down the hallways and such. If I'm on my scooter she rides in her extra big basket. She can still do her job but I can protect her from big feet and unwanted pats

I did learn what my husband usually goes through. Believe there are some nice people out there and when all the mean or aggressive ones are coming at me I protect llike a mother hen. People start toward Valentine and She (having been trained to ignor) lowers herself down into the case. I tell people that she has been trained to ignore and we do not pet her while she is working. If need be we just kep walking. Everyone including us is always heading somewhere so just keep going.

You may get a few strange looks but I couldn't believe how much better Valentine was at the end of the day.

Valentine's Mom
September 15th, 2009, 12:47 AM
I keep thinking of the hundreds of brave veterans with brain injuries being paired with sds. One of the difficulty with brain injuries is coping with frustration and interaction with people. It would be nice to hae some 'catch phases" to use in those tough situations with the dogs.



Andar


Although I have been traveling with Valentine for several years now I took her, my sister, and my elderly mother on a short cruise from Baltimore to the Bahamas. It started out to be a nightmare. They started by saying that only 1 person knew anything at all as to what to do to get a service dog on board. I had all her papers and Valentine has only been on 8 Carnival cruises, 3 RCCL 1 Costa and 1 NCL so we do know the routine.

This time I was caring for my mother and my sister had never cruised before, I also had full care for Valentine (which my husband usually did)

Anyway with Valentine only weighing 10lbs. I use a special roller bag for dogs and she rides all the way down the hallways and such. If I'm on my scooter she rides in her extra big basket. She can still do her job but I can protect her from big feet and unwanted pats

I did learn what my husband usually goes through. Believe there are some nice people out there and when all the mean or aggressive ones are coming at me I protect llike a mother hen. People start toward Valentine and She (having been trained to ignor) lowers herself down into the case. I tell people that she has been trained to ignore and we do not pet her while she is working. If need be we just kep walking. Everyone including us is always heading somewhere so just keep going.

You may get a few strange looks but I couldn't believe how much better Valentine was at the end of the day.

I do tend to be a little shy like you but beleve me when I found out how much better it was whe I stood up for her it was great! Try it it isn't that hard (the second time) We are always here to healp

dvdfreakmc
September 15th, 2009, 06:48 AM
Andar,

Susan, Cameron and I run into similar situations, and all I can say is we are usually glad there are two of us. Usually I stay with Cameron and Werin, while Susan brings up the questions to the rear. It is kind of hilarious that we usually have a group following us on cruises. The questions are the most intense because, like you, they are all in, all the time. Tons of questions and trying to pet.

However, we found on our latest cruise that the staff was much more aware of not petting, which helped a lot. They were very accomodating and didn't ask to pet the dog like they had on earlier cruises. Maybe that day you ask for is coming when people just accept our dogs as a part of ourselves.

Being honest, we have those days you talk about when we get back to the cabin and don't want to go out again due to the questions or looks. But it can happen anywhere.

Andar
September 15th, 2009, 11:23 PM
Thanks everyone for your support. I felt better just venting and knowing that you all would understand. Plus three days of resting :p
It feels so petty when I know I am lucky that Abby saved my life. I am really grateful to be alive,to be able to travel and so lucky to have a second SD, Bailey that is so dedicated, I know she will do anything for me.

I cannot imagine me trying to travel without her - even with all the challenges. I will continue to try to educate the public and keep a smile on my face but next time I am going to talk to the cruise director about a question/answer off-leash play/petting timewhen other passengers can ask questions. Hopefully an hour will answer most of them. That worked really well on my last cruise (but there was 25 SD on board).

You guys are all great and I appreciate having a place to go for the cruising issues. I would love to do Panama but need a west cost departure and return.

Still holding out hope we can all meet on of these days.
Darcie

wizard-of-roz
September 16th, 2009, 02:46 PM
Great pictures. I recognize one of those as my place of employment haha. Haikey, my husband's service dog, is a regular there. I have made a little "brag book" for my husband to carry along in his wheelchair. It shows Haikey doing some of his chores to help him out.
Since people are constantly stopping us while we are out and asking about just what he does, I have figured out it is true that a picture is worth a thousand words. Saves a lot of time.

Hope This Works

http://s975.photobucket.com/albums/ae233/Trinap1204/Haikey%20Chores/

Thank you for the wonderful pictures and for sharing what your amazing dog does!

What a hard worker!!!

dobiemom
September 16th, 2009, 03:40 PM
Roz, how did Brenda's "Cruising With a Service Dog" lecture go? How did she like Alaska? I just know everyone LOVED her and hopefully people are more enlightened about service dogs/animals because of her "talk." (BTW I'm still looking into the Carnival Splendor in January.)

wizard-of-roz
September 16th, 2009, 03:56 PM
First: Miriam, congratulations on JJ; I wish you many years of good health and lots of smiles.

mered288: Welcome! Happy cruising with your SD. I know you will get lots of help from everyone here.

Nancy: I really feel your frustration. The Superintendent may ask what the dog does to mitigate the persons handicap. And, it is legal to ask to for a doctor's note.

We're used to the questions and, usually, have all the answers that an employer or anyone else may have. It naturally goes with the territory of going through life with one of these amazing animals.

Darcie: I'm so sorry about the pain that you felt from not only your fellow passengers, on your recent cruise but also from the staff.

On our last cruise there was a restaurant worker who kept making noises directed at Brenda for the first 3 days. Finally, [after I'd had enough] I put Brenda in a "down/stay", under a table, in the buffet area and I walked over to the "noisey" worker and asked him who his supervisor was. I approached the supervisor and told him about the inappropriate noises and from that moment on, it NEVER happened again!

Also, the questions on this cruise [to Alaska] were different than our other cruises with Brenda [12 of them], the people were much more inquisitive and wanted to stop me at every turn.

We could not do our prensentation.....there were so many port visits and the weather was so bad, at one point, that the ship's Captain had to make many warnings over the PA for people to stay in their cabins and "hold-on" to handrails, etc. The CD and I did not get a chance to meet. It seemed impossible to fit anything more into the ship's schedule.

It was disappointing but, we were stopped so many times.....much more than ever before on any previous cruises....that people were really informed and got all their questions answered everytime we were stopped.

These are the favorite questions....
1. How much did you pay to get your dog onboard?
2. Where does she go potty?
3. WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU?
4. How do you get one of these dogs?
5. Can I touch her?

And, on and on!

We, too, sometimes hide in a lounge or in our cabin....when we've been overly innundated with questions and touching!

The public will NEVER get used to seeing a dog in a "human" environment!

Brenda has a huge decal on her vest that reads....."PLEASE DO NOT TOUCH - I'M WORKING!" First, people touch, then they read and then they touch again!!!!! Some folks will back off, read the sign out loud and, then ask me if they can pat her.

It's really important to get the "message" out to everyone that: NOT ALL DOGS ARE FOR THE BLIND!

We don't have to tell EVERYTHING we just need to let people know that Service Dogs come in all shapes/sizes/colors and can do a myraid of tasks.

wizard-of-roz
September 16th, 2009, 05:06 PM
We drove to Seattle from Los Angeles, to cruise on the Golden Princess to Alaska, September 5th.

We left on September 2nd, giving me us 3 days on the road and plenty of time for breaks.

Brenda, "honkered" down, in the back seat and did really well on the road trip. She looks at me with those big brown eyes and I know she's saying, "what are we doing now?"

I got so much help from wonderful CC people. I got directions to Pier 91 and hints about places to eat along the way and help in getting from the Pier to Eugene, Oregon [to visit our children, after the cruise.]

Thank you to everyone who had input into the road trip, I could not have done it so easily without you all!

We drove on Interstate 5 [which has the best Rest Areas] and made it easy to stop; get some exercise; have a potty break and move on!

Tukwila, Washington was a huge delight. It's a really cute little town with the best shopping and eating areas we found along the route. We were warned that we wouldn't like staying there.....Wrong! It was fantastic. We stayed in one of the nicest Best Western's I've ever stayed in, we had no charge for parking and the surrounding area was very charming with a "free" full breakfast, the next day. It was a 20 minute drive to the dock and I would highly recommend this lovely little town and hotel.

We NEVER got lost; we were on time to everything....and, that always feels good when you're in a strange envrionment.

Seattle is a beautiful city.....we had left L.A. with the fires all around us and some very acrid air to breath. It felt good to breath in clean, cool air.

Pier 91 is awful. They're still working on it and the twists/turns and delays are frustrating. The workers and security are doing the very best they can with an overly used and underly equipped area for the use. It definitely felt like a "work in progress!"

Because of where Pier 91 is located, they can't blow the ship's whistle or have a "sailaway" party, with music, due to the noise it creates for the surrounding homes in the area.....a bit disappointing.

The Golden's improvement's and the addition of the Piazza area were lovely. There were violins and a celloist which gave the whole area a lovely feeling. We saw the best show's in this area. The Casino takes up most of the forward area of Deck 7. The biggest Casino I have ever seen on a cruise ship.

MUTS was a nice addition but not enjoyed too much, because of the weather.

This trip to the inside passage was so port intensive and had so many rough seas that I don't think the Shops or Casino saw much of the passengers or as much as they would have liked.

The food was excellent. The service was superior and the staff is some of the best on the high seas.

Alaska; what can one say about this state.....the awesome beauty of her majestic mountains and seas must be seen, at least once in a lifetime!

The naturalist onboard was the best. We couldn't wait to hear his stories and see his slides.

Brenda did so well, even with the rough seas, she was a trooper and showed her true colors of being a phenomenal traveler! Remember, she's 9 1/2 years old but acts and looks like a 3 year old.

Her potty box was perfectly placed and was available within 15 minutes of arrival to our cabin. It was in the stairwell on Emerald deck. This keeps us out of the weather and away from the crowds. It allows me to meet her needs with my PJ's on.

We had a huge problem with fellow passengers and some staff. This will NEVER change.....people are people. They will ALWAYS want to know more and will treat your dog as a "Star!" They will act like papparazzi; they will try and sneak a pat and some will ignore your needs.
You MUST travel with the expectation of this occurring and you must plan your "counter attack!"

I suggest that you move quickly, using your very best voice. You give your dog his/her commands with the expectation that there will be noise and crowds around you. If you need to move through the crowd, just keep going, don't be concerned with hurt feelings or running over toes!

I say; "excuse me, my dog needs to potty, I can not answer your questions now!"

At a good time.....I place myself and Brenda in a public sitting area and if I'm asked to pat her.....I allow the public time for questions and pats. When we've had enough, we move on!

Princess handles disembarkation so well.

Cruise with your dog.....enjoy yourself....I hope to get in many more cruises with Brenny and PaPa! :)

rangeley
September 17th, 2009, 12:58 PM
Welcome Back Roz!!!!!! :D
Welcome Back Darcie!!! :D

Glad you are both back. That being said... I'm really thrilled we decided to do a cruise with Wexler after hearing your stories of horror! Makes me think twice about it now. Of course I have written to every island and have heard nothing back. :mad: Not thrilled about that.

We had an incident the other day, Wexler pulled John out of the chair. He is very distracted and spooked by things. I don't think he has been around a city at all and the noises that come with living here. John is communicating with one of the trainers about it now. We have been experimenting with different collars and leashes. When we go for a walk we use a 6' and just a regular collar. He might have to keep the prong collar and the freedom leash on more often to have better control. We might go to a workshop in October so John and the trainer can work on Wexys spooking.

I'm glad everyone had a great trip. I would love to go to Alaska but I'm not much of a flyer so the ride is alittle to long for me. And being in Boston there isn't much of a chance of us driving to Seattle. But I can dream!! :p

Cindy

sunshine426
September 17th, 2009, 05:53 PM
Welcome Back Roz!!!!!! :D
Welcome Back Darcie!!! :D

Glad you are both back. That being said... I'm really thrilled we decided to do a cruise with Wexler after hearing your stories of horror! Makes me think twice about it now. Of course I have written to every island and have heard nothing back. :mad: Not thrilled about that.

We had an incident the other day, Wexler pulled John out of the chair. He is very distracted and spooked by things. I don't think he has been around a city at all and the noises that come with living here. John is communicating with one of the trainers about it now. We have been experimenting with different collars and leashes. When we go for a walk we use a 6' and just a regular collar. He might have to keep the prong collar and the freedom leash on more often to have better control. We might go to a workshop in October so John and the trainer can work on Wexys spooking.

I'm glad everyone had a great trip. I would love to go to Alaska but I'm not much of a flyer so the ride is alittle to long for me. And being in Boston there isn't much of a chance of us driving to Seattle. But I can dream!! :p

Cindy

I use an easy walk harness with my own dogs and the SD's(intraining). It is made by gentle leader, but the harness goes across the chest with the ring in the center of the chest. This eliminated forging with my own dog, who had no sucess with a regular collor or a prong collor. Some dogs do well with the gentle leader(head harness), it is great for control but my dog hates it.

wizard-of-roz
September 17th, 2009, 06:27 PM
Welcome Back Roz!!!!!! :D
Welcome Back Darcie!!! :D

Glad you are both back. That being said... I'm really thrilled we decided to do a cruise with Wexler after hearing your stories of horror! Makes me think twice about it now. Of course I have written to every island and have heard nothing back. :mad: Not thrilled about that.

We had an incident the other day, Wexler pulled John out of the chair. He is very distracted and spooked by things. I don't think he has been around a city at all and the noises that come with living here. John is communicating with one of the trainers about it now. We have been experimenting with different collars and leashes. When we go for a walk we use a 6' and just a regular collar. He might have to keep the prong collar and the freedom leash on more often to have better control. We might go to a workshop in October so John and the trainer can work on Wexys spooking.

I'm glad everyone had a great trip. I would love to go to Alaska but I'm not much of a flyer so the ride is alittle to long for me. And being in Boston there isn't much of a chance of us driving to Seattle. But I can dream!! :p

Cindy

Cindy: Please don't be discouraged by negative stuff that we talk about. Everyone's experiences will be different. I was very reluctant to take Brenda onboard, 12 cruises ago.....Now, I couldn't cruise without her and I don't want to!!!!

If you have any doubt's about what is required by a specific island you'll be visiting call the Passenger Access Department. They'll get the information you need. I contacted: Princess Access Care: 661.284.4521.....I also asked my Vet. and he had all the information for all foreign countries and what they required for traveling to them.

It's a simple process if you're prepared. Remember to check with the cruiseline and make sure that the pottybox will be set-up prior to your entering the ship [Or, have your TA do this for you.] And, check with the Purser's desk the minute you board.

OMG, what is Wexler thinking!!! I hope John didn't get hurt when he was pulled. Brenda is a horrible forager and a puller on the leash. I swear, if I were a smaller woman or a child, she could pull me over!!! I've learned to really give her an extra strong "correction" on the leash when she starts doing this. We were told to turn her around [facing the other direction, make her walk a few steps and then attempt the walk again.] Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't [and, I don't always have the time!]

Brenda is the only dog in her class to literally scratch the gentle leader off her head. She won't wear it. We tried the Cesar Milan collar and it worked, for a while! She's very stubborn. I can't let Morey walk her because she pulls on the leash too much and he's not real steady on his feet! As she's aging it's definitely getting better and doesn't pull to the point of causing me pain in my shoulder anymore.....

Some dogs have this instinctual drive to forage and lead.....and, then I've seen some who are so lazy and could care less about leaving that "invisible box" beside their handler. I don't know why some are "leash tuggers" and some are not.......I do know that my sister's dog literally jumps 10 feet in the air when she sees a squirrel or a cat and Brenda will just sit and watch the whole thing like a geniously trained working dog! My family thinks she made of gold and so does most of the public, I go in to.

That said; Wexler can't be pulling John to the point of injuring him.......he's a smart boy and he wants to please you both.....it will just take some time. What did John do when this happened?

We also go to a workshop in October, at CCI in Santa Rosa. There's always something new to learn and I love just being around all the amazing dogs.

Quampapetet
September 18th, 2009, 05:56 PM
I guess I need to get more assertive but I had any type of confrontation. I try to keep a smile on my face and 'put up with it - on the outside"

When enough is enough, you'll learn to get more assertive. It happens to all of us. ;)

I did ask them to move her relief box when the storm made it impossible to go out on that deck (they actually locked the doors so we had no access to it).

Yeah, they don't want anybody swept off into the sea during the storms! I guess they forgot your box was out there, they prob'ly had to hurry and do all the door locking/getting ppl inside. I'm glad they sent somebody out to get it, though.

It wasn't just the server that barked at her, it happened twice in ports and numerous times on the ship - what is with that??
I did hear the head waiter tell the server not to do that, but he did it again other nights.

I've had a couple ppl bark at my dog on various occassions. Some ppl are just not that brilliant, I guess! :p

That's too bad the guy didn't listen to his supervisor. I hope he got in trouble for it!

Bailey does have a red vest and it says medical alert dog working, please do not distract. One guy said he thought it said 'medical alert dog - needs work!"

Hey, in this economy.... ;):D That is so funny that somebody thought it said that, though!!! Wow, you wonder how some ppl get their pants on each morning....

Quampapetet
September 18th, 2009, 06:06 PM
We could not do our prensentation.....there were so many port visits and the weather was so bad, at one point, that the ship's Captain had to make many warnings over the PA for people to stay in their cabins and "hold-on" to handrails, etc. The CD and I did not get a chance to meet. It seemed impossible to fit anything more into the ship's schedule.




Yikes! Another cruiser on this thread with bad weather! :( I hope nobody got hurt like on the other poster's cruise where ppl broke bones and somebody had to leave the ship. If my cruise got weather that bad, I don't think I could leave my room!

Quampapetet
September 18th, 2009, 06:11 PM
Glad you are both back. That being said... I'm really thrilled we decided to do a cruise with Wexler after hearing your stories of horror! Makes me think twice about it now. Of course I have written to every island and have heard nothing back. :mad: Not thrilled about that.

But just think about how many GOOD stories of cruises there are on this thread!! :D Don't think twice about the cruise - just go for it!

Yeah, you're not likely to get an e-mail back from the islands. You have to call them on the phone (look up the U.S. Consulate or Tourism Office - those will not be int'l calls). Or you can call or e-mail the USDA (or whichever gov't office it is) to see if they have the info. you need.

rangeley
September 19th, 2009, 08:00 AM
Quam, Thanks for the info.

S.S. Cruisers
September 19th, 2009, 09:46 AM
Mornin' all;

Roz: I'm so sorry you and Brenny didn't get to strut your stuff, but it sounds like you got a little bit of knowledge out there. Sorry about the bad weather. We have only been on one cruise where it was "bad". Dishes did slide off some tables. I wasn't scared on that one, but have been scared on others, go figure.

Cindy: I hope John is okay. Poor Wexy probably felt so bad for hurting Papa. I hope everything gets tuned up and all is good. Our Reno was a puller with a collar, to the tune that he actually sprained his neck one time! That's when the vet said "No, collars, harness only." He didn't pull a bit from then on. I was afraid I wouldn't have as much control over him, as when he got his mind set, he went with it. Anyway, after he passed I gave all of his stuff to his cousin, a Chocolate lab. Now he is also a puller. My sister said she couldn't believe it that the harness would make such a difference, but he also stop pulling. Now walks are a pleasure again. So that is my pitch on harness vs. collars. Jezzy Lou even has her little lavendar one! What a hoot to see that little turd on a harness and leash. She thinks she is somebody! :D

I still am having family issues. I keep thinking, "What next." I am trying to be positive and keep my chin up, but some days it just isn't possible. I do get on here everyday and at least read the thread, so I can keep up. Of course by the time I post, my pea brain can't quite remember all of it.

Everyone have a great weekend.

Nancy

uppitycats
September 19th, 2009, 10:18 AM
I don't have a service dog so don't have to spend time trying to protect it from the public..

but I assure you that doesn't stop the "harassment" from unthinking insensitive people, about "what's wrong with you?", "why are you in that chair??", "can't you move that scooter more quickly, you're in the way!"..

and people flowing around me like I'm invisible, on their way to the elevator, even though I've waited for several that have filled with folks, and no room for me in a scooter,

or people dropping food on my head as they reach over me in a buffet,

or people sitting on my lap because they back up and fall over the chair, and so on. It does get really old, and I'm sure folks think I'm a grouch sometimes, when I've been asked the same dumb question a hundred times that day and just don't want to answer anymore.

I guess that if we want to be out and about, we have to learn to develop tough skins, and either put up with, or ignore the boors out there.

sunshine426
September 19th, 2009, 01:37 PM
Mornin' all;

Roz: I'm so sorry you and Brenny didn't get to strut your stuff, but it sounds like you got a little bit of knowledge out there. Sorry about the bad weather. We have only been on one cruise where it was "bad". Dishes did slide off some tables. I wasn't scared on that one, but have been scared on others, go figure.

Cindy: I hope John is okay. Poor Wexy probably felt so bad for hurting Papa. I hope everything gets tuned up and all is good. Our Reno was a puller with a collar, to the tune that he actually sprained his neck one time! That's when the vet said "No, collars, harness only." He didn't pull a bit from then on. I was afraid I wouldn't have as much control over him, as when he got his mind set, he went with it. Anyway, after he passed I gave all of his stuff to his cousin, a Chocolate lab. Now he is also a puller. My sister said she couldn't believe it that the harness would make such a difference, but he also stop pulling. Now walks are a pleasure again. So that is my pitch on harness vs. collars. Jezzy Lou even has her little lavendar one! What a hoot to see that little turd on a harness and leash. She thinks she is somebody! :D

I still am having family issues. I keep thinking, "What next." I am trying to be positive and keep my chin up, but some days it just isn't possible. I do get on here everyday and at least read the thread, so I can keep up. Of course by the time I post, my pea brain can't quite remember all of it.

Everyone have a great weekend.

Nancy

Another vote for the harness. I swear it makes an unbelievable difference.

Quampapetet
September 20th, 2009, 01:58 AM
Just wanted to say that yesterday in the mail I got my import permits for the Bahamas. It took about two months or less this time - not too bad! And the request for two permits in one envelope didn't confuse them either! :)

Unlike last year, there is no page to fill out for the microchip number. I'm not sure why they tried that for a short time and stopped it, but oh well - one less page to deal with! My dog's microchip number is always written in on her health certificate anyway.

rangeley
September 20th, 2009, 11:35 AM
Just wanted to say that yesterday in the mail I got my import permits for the Bahamas. It took about two months or less this time - not too bad! And the request for two permits in one envelope didn't confuse them either! :)

Unlike last year, there is no page to fill out for the microchip number. I'm not sure why they tried that for a short time and stopped it, but oh well - one less page to deal with! My dog's microchip number is always written in on her health certificate anyway.


Quam, I guess I'll have to get moving on the Bahamas thing this week. We are going to a private island so I'm not even sure if there is someone there to check on the dogs papers. Wexler does not have a microchip so I'm glad they don't require it anymore. I guess there are alot of different chips and unless you have a scanner for each kind it doesn't work. Maybe thats why they did away with it. CCI doesn't chip their dogs, I think there is some controversy on chipping dogs. I heard the chip can move around and cause problems. He does have a tatoo in his ear though. I was also wondering if you sent any money for the permit. I thought service dogs was free.

Cindy

Quampapetet
September 20th, 2009, 11:08 PM
Microchips are safe. They've been used for many years in large and small animals (horses, dogs, etc.). On a rare occassion they can migrate to a different spot before the body holds it in place (builds tissue around it or whatever), but there is nothing dangerous about that.

Import permits for the Bahamas are indeed free for service dogs. Just be sure to write on the page that your dog is your service dog somewhere they will notice so they know why there is no fee sent with the application. (I usually write "SERVICE DOG - NO FEE" on the top of the application.) Your permit will state "SERVICE DOG" on it as well so that whoever looks at the paperwork knows.

You may or may not have somebody look at the paperwork, but of course you'll want to get it just in case so you won't have to stay on the ship if they do know what paperwork you're s'posed to have. (The ship gives the dog paperwork to customs when customs works on clearing the ship at each port - you won't have to give it to anybody yourself.) Arriving by plane in the Bahamas they don't always check it coming or going, but sometimes they do - and for land vacations I have to do the vet check thing and she always needs the proper paperwork, of course, though it is very simple and easy.

DisneyKidsDad
September 21st, 2009, 08:41 AM
We might go to a workshop in October so John and the trainer can work on Wexys spooking.

Cindy

Cindy,

Looks like we may just see you guys at the October workshop. We just faxed over our RSVP. Unless something major comes up, we'll be there.

denversees4me
September 21st, 2009, 11:48 PM
Hi Guys
I was just reading about the post for bahamas and we r going at the end of oct on a disney cruise here is what my permit states i need for my dog and asks for

a microchip
a health cert
current on vaccines
and a negative fecal
i sailed this same cruise last year and had all of these and it was required. there was also a different form other than the permit it says you need to have your vet fill out ( besides the health cert ) it is whatever the form for the permit is example I110a but it asks for I11B too ( not those numbers but your get what i mean )
i would rather be safe and follow everythig vs almost everything and risk getting my dog snagged from me in a country with no REAL rules to protect us .... i leave him on the ship in Nassau just a personal prefrence though .


Also i am in contact with a guy who sells used fake grass and if anyone is interested i can get a fairly good deal on a 4x4 piece for cruises i told him i wanted to send a sample to all the lines and send them info so maybe one day we could have it as an option on all ships .

I will let you know what he says
Cari and Denver

wizard-of-roz
September 22nd, 2009, 02:37 PM
Hi Guys
I was just reading about the post for bahamas and we r going at the end of oct on a disney cruise here is what my permit states i need for my dog and asks for

a microchip
a health cert
current on vaccines
and a negative fecal
i sailed this same cruise last year and had all of these and it was required. there was also a different form other than the permit it says you need to have your vet fill out ( besides the health cert ) it is whatever the form for the permit is example I110a but it asks for I11B too ( not those numbers but your get what i mean )
i would rather be safe and follow everythig vs almost everything and risk getting my dog snagged from me in a country with no REAL rules to protect us .... i leave him on the ship in Nassau just a personal prefrence though .


Also i am in contact with a guy who sells used fake grass and if anyone is interested i can get a fairly good deal on a 4x4 piece for cruises i told him i wanted to send a sample to all the lines and send them info so maybe one day we could have it as an option on all ships .

I will let you know what he says
Cari and Denver

Thanks Cari, I'd love to hear more about the grass....we're going to bring a rolled-up bit with us in January. If you can get a deal....count me in and let me know more about it.

I don't see the ships carrying it, because of the sanitation problems. They'd have to dissinfect it after each use [and, there are no real guidelines for doing this from the FDA or any other agencies!] I know that most Service Dogs are very well maintained, however, what if a dog used the grass and he had worms or another bacterial infection and the grass wasn't dissinfected properly? No thanks.....I'll bring my own!!!!!

I know Brenda goes potty in "rest areas" all over the U.S. but, these areas are out in the open air and most bacterias and viruses don't breed well in the open air. I'm just going to go on the "safe side" and hope that until there's a proper way to dissinfect and store this artificial turf.....I'd rather the ships don't use it! ;)

Thanks for the information for Bahamas.....when are you going?

Quampapetet
September 22nd, 2009, 06:01 PM
Hi Guys
I was just reading about the post for bahamas and we r going at the end of oct on a disney cruise here is what my permit states i need for my dog and asks for

a microchip

A microchip is not required. It was for a short time (maybe you have a permit from that time), as the one I got last fall for this past January had the microchip requirement page (a separate page for your vet to fill out and sign), but the years before that it hadn't been required/part of the permit and it is not required/part of the permit I just got last week for my December/January and February trips.

However, I do strongly recommend every dog owner (service dog and pet) to microchip their dogs. It is cheap and lasts the lifetime of the dog and is worth it. Some countries and Hawaii do require a microchip, so it is best to get one when the dog is young so that if you decide to go to one of those countries, you won't have to give an additional rabies vaccine (since the one before the microchip does not count for some countries) that could harm your dog. Not to mention if your dog should get lost or stolen (but hopefully not!)....

a health cert
current on vaccines
and a negative fecal

In particular: the health certificate needs to be within forty-eight hours of importation (but it does not have to be USDA endorsed, unless you are going to another country that needs that of course).

Bring your rabies certificate (even though this will be noted on the health certificate). For the one-year vaccine, it has to be no more than ten months since it was given. For the three-year, it has to be no more than thirty-four months since it was given. For both, it has to be more than one month since it was given.

The dog must have adequate immunity from: Distemper, Hepatitis, Parvovirus, Leptospirosis, Adenovirus, and Coronavirus. Be aware that not all these vaccines are part of the regular routine your vet may give, so check your dog's records on which ones he has had to see if he needs any additional ones. The Lepto vaccine only lasts one year, so should be given every year that you go to the Bahamas (for me, this is every year, so I give it every year); the others you can titer against as they last longer.

You can do a fecal float from your vet or via an at-home test kit (where you send the crap in the mail, LOL, to a lab) that you can get via Petco.com. (The latter is a good idea if you didn't get it done at your dog's annual app't, then you won't be paying the walk-into-the-exam-room fee as well as the testing fee and biohazard fee and whatever else they love to charge you. If your vet sends everything out instead of testing it in-house, you can't do this test the day before you leave.)

i sailed this same cruise last year and had all of these and it was required. there was also a different form other than the permit it says you need to have your vet fill out ( besides the health cert ) it is whatever the form for the permit is example I110a but it asks for I11B too ( not those numbers but your get what i mean )

You mean IMP/1 (A) and IMP/1 (B). Like I said above, form B was only send for a short time. That's the microchip form. I'm not sure why they included it when they did, but it doesn't give any additional info. than the health certificate does.

i would rather be safe and follow everythig vs almost everything and risk getting my dog snagged from me in a country with no REAL rules to protect us .... i leave him on the ship in Nassau just a personal prefrence though .

Yes, follow the rules, but the Bahamas is relaxed; they are not going to take your dog from you. If they find that something isn't right, they'd just not allow him off the ship. But since you're not even seeing the vet since you're on a cruise, I doubt your paperwork will be looked over all that well. At the airport, they sometimes ask for it and sometimes don't. When they do, they may not know what they are actually looking for; it is the vet who looks at everything to make sure it is all good. And the vets are very nice. :)

Your dog is fine in Nassau, so go ahead and get off the ship with him. While access isn't a law in the Bahamas, I've never been denied access. A couple times I've been questioned, but if you explain what a service dog is (most ppl have seen them in American movies/TV, especially guide dogs), you shouldn't have an issue.


Also i am in contact with a guy who sells used fake grass and if anyone is interested i can get a fairly good deal on a 4x4 piece for cruises i told him i wanted to send a sample to all the lines and send them info so maybe one day we could have it as an option on all ships .

I will let you know what he says
Cari and Denver

Does he have any non-used grass? What is the grass like? Really fake-like or is it the realistic stuff? I found a Web site that sells realistic grass that is antibacterial-coated for dog use and the price isn't bad per square foot. (They have many different types of faux realistic grass and only some are antibacterial for dogs, but those that are look good.)

S.S. Cruisers
September 24th, 2009, 06:44 PM
HELLO, Hello, Hello, do I hear an echo in here. I hope everyone is having a good time at being busy and not anything bad. It seems the tides are flowing against us.

Nancy

flsunnymommy
September 24th, 2009, 06:51 PM
I just ordered a free sample of "grass" (I forget where from) and it just looks like plastic rug. No idea how you would ever clean stuff off of it. I spoke to a service dog supply company in Canada and they are trying to get pup heads on the cruise lines.

wizard-of-roz
September 24th, 2009, 07:30 PM
However, I do strongly recommend every dog owner (service dog and pet) to microchip their dogs. It is cheap and lasts the lifetime of the dog and is worth it. Some countries and Hawaii do require a microchip, so it is best to get one when the dog is young so that if you decide to go to one of those countries, you won't have to give an additional rabies vaccine (since the one before the microchip does not count for some countries) that could harm your dog. Not to mention if your dog should get lost or stolen (but hopefully not!)....

I will NOT microchip Brenda. She's almost 10, has a tattoo in her ear [done by CCI], always wears her collar with all information on it. I keep extra information in the glove compartment of my car [forms are gotten from IAADP] and in my refrigerator, at home. I have a sticker on my window [car and home] alerting the public and medical service people that I have an SD and her information is in the fridge. They're great for letting the public know that she's a Service Dog and to treat her differently than a pet!

The dog must have adequate immunity from: Distemper, Hepatitis, Parvovirus, Leptospirosis, Adenovirus, and Coronavirus. Be aware that not all these vaccines are part of the regular routine your vet may give, so check your dog's records on which ones he has had to see if he needs any additional ones. The Lepto vaccine only lasts one year, so should be given every year that you go to the Bahamas (for me, this is every year, so I give it every year); the others you can titer against as they last longer.

Be very careful with immunizations/vaccines on a "senior dog", they will ALWAYS need Rabi's Vaccine but some of the other's are no longer necessary and, sometimes can be too much for their systems to absorb. Always ask your Vet and make sure the person doing the innoculations knows the age of your dog.

Yes, follow the rules when traveling with your Service Dogs!!!! :)

Does he have any non-used grass? What is the grass like? Really fake-like or is it the realistic stuff? I found a Web site that sells realistic grass that is antibacterial-coated for dog use and the price isn't bad per square foot. (They have many different types of faux realistic grass and only some are antibacterial for dogs, but those that are look good.)

I am also looking for some grass to "roll-up" and take with us [and, then leave behind when we cruise.] The stuff we're using on our patio, now, is very expensive [it's been there for over a year and a half and looks like new and cleans so easily-I bought it from "In the Company of Dogs..online] I wouldn't buy it for this use.

Anyone have a good connection for the right stuff.....not "astroturf", [this would never clean-up easily] but the faux grass that has been antibacterial treated and is reasonably priced would be perfect?

wizard-of-roz
September 24th, 2009, 07:38 PM
I just ordered a free sample of "grass" (I forget where from) and it just looks like plastic rug. No idea how you would ever clean stuff off of it. I spoke to a service dog supply company in Canada and they are trying to get pup heads on the cruise lines.

You can't clean it well. It's not the right stuff. The right stuff is amazing [each grass is pliable; looks real; is soft to the touch and cleans so easily.] I've been using it for my 70lb Lab, in a 4x5 box, on our patio, for almost 2 years. It's wonderful. I bought it from "In the Company of Dogs" website. It's pricey and I wouldn't want to roll it up and take it onboard, [only to throw it away] when we cruise.

I want to be able to bring a 4x4 piece of bacterially treated, artifical turf and leave it behind after each cruise. After we're done, the crew can roll it up with the plastic liner, they provide and we're done!

flsunnymommy
September 24th, 2009, 07:48 PM
The potty area is the biggest stress for us when cruising. After the issues last time, I am scared to try going without taking something with me. I am hoping to find something before we cruise again

wizard-of-roz
September 24th, 2009, 07:50 PM
HELLO, Hello, Hello, do I hear an echo in here. I hope everyone is having a good time at being busy and not anything bad. It seems the tides are flowing against us.

Nancy

Hi Nancy,
We're here, we're just busy planning our next cruise. And, having difficulties with our TA.

There are lots of TA's out there I'm not going to be stuck with one who simply doesn't want to work!

Have a wonderful weekend.......

wizard-of-roz
September 24th, 2009, 07:54 PM
The potty area is the biggest stress for us when cruising. After the issues last time, I am scared to try going without taking something with me. I am hoping to find something before we cruise again

I think Cari [Denversees4me] had some insight about the grass.....I'm going to start researching too.....our next cruise is in January and I do want to bring my own roll of "something!"

I'll let you know if I find anything cheap and good!

I'm going to let them put the box on our veranda......but, I still want to bring my own filler [hopefully artificial turf!]

flsunnymommy
September 24th, 2009, 09:19 PM
We have time to figure it out, almost a year. I just want to make sure we get it right cause we will have others sailing with us. My son is so nervous to go again, but felt better when he personally spoke to the access coordinator.

rangeley
September 25th, 2009, 11:15 AM
Cindy,

Looks like we may just see you guys at the October workshop. We just faxed over our RSVP. Unless something major comes up, we'll be there.


DKD, Still not sure if we are going or not. I'll let you know.

Nancy, I think we have all been busy. I know I'm in a frenzy trying to get everything all set for taking this dog on the cruise :eek: I feel like I'm getting no where. Going to call the USDA today.

Cindy

sunshine426
September 26th, 2009, 08:16 AM
Hi Everyone. I am experiencing a little "puppy fatigue syndrome" this week. I've had my puppy home three times now. He still doesn't like his crate, I think I am going to try taking the crate to the bedroom, it might be that he doesn't like being alone. Anyway, he is so sweet and so smart. He is four months old now. He has been assigned to me until he graduates. He will still live at the training facility, but when I want to do outings, or animal assisted therapy visits, or just home visits, he will be the dog I take out. I am taking lot's of pictures, so I can compile him on his graduation day and give to his recepient. He tried to pounce on one of my daughter's cats the other day and her chiuauaa came running and told him off. It was pretty funny as he is still much bigger than the little dog, but he seemed very chagrined and I think he said "OK, no more kitty pouncing". I'll keep you guys posted. Can't wait to hear about more cruises. Rich and I will be sailing on the Sapphire Princess in December. We are so excited. Wish some of you could come along.......hint hint.

rangeley
September 26th, 2009, 10:52 AM
Sunshine, Love hearing your puppy stories. Doggies and kitties, how fun is that. They had a cat at CCI wandering around so the dogs could be trained not to bother it. They all did amazingly good around it. As far as a cruise goes, it would be wonderful if someday we could all get together and go on one. But I'll probably think more about that after we see how Wexy does on this one. :eek:

Cindy

S.S. Cruisers
September 26th, 2009, 12:15 PM
Mornin' all:

Sunshine: Which week are you going in December? We get our Christmas break from 12/21 to 01/01. Those are the priciest (is that a word?) weeks. Tradionally the second week of December is one of the least expensive ones. We also get a fall break the week of Columbus day in October. Those prices have been reasonable, but not sure I can line up a babysitter for mom yet. And then there is Jezzy Lou. We went out to dinner for 2 1/2 hours the other night and you would have thought we had abandoned her. Cry, scream, jump, shake, in my lap, in hubbies lap. I don't even want to think about what a week will do to her!

Nancy

sunshine426
September 26th, 2009, 12:47 PM
Nancy. We are on the 11/28 sailing of the Sapphire Princess. They have great prices, but it is not going to coincide with very many school breaks. I'd love to meet you.

jodikt
September 26th, 2009, 11:34 PM
Hi everyone,

I'm hoping that someone can help me with a question about cruise travel to Italy. In November, my best friend will be taking her elderly mom and her service dog on a cruise that departs from Venice and returns to Rome.

She has contacted the Italian embassy and Princess cruises about the requirements for the service dog to:
1.enter Venice, Italy,
2.embark on the ship,
3.enter Rome/Civitavecchia, Italy AFTER the cruise. This seems to be the tricky part!

No one has been able to tell her the requirements for getting the service dog back into Italy after the cruise.
The cruise enters international waters and visits non-EU countries (i.e. Turkey and Croatia). Cruise also visits Greece (EU country). Turkey is a country that has a "high incidence of rabies", so dogs that travel from Turkey to Italy must have rabies-titer testing 3 months PRIOR to entering Italy.

The question is: if the service dog does not get off the ship in Turkey, will the rabies testing and 3-month quarantine still be required? Not sure how my friend can prove to the Italian officials that the dog did not visit this port. She is very concerned that the dog will be denied entry into Italy after the cruise. She has not been able to get an answer from the embassy or cruise line. If anyone has any information or advice, it would be much appreciated. Thanks so much!

Jodi

rangeley
September 27th, 2009, 08:12 AM
Nancy, Poor Jezzy Lou!! When you leave her for a week she will be with someone? I always hate the thought of leaving Bailee. But I know my mom and brother take good care of her.

Jodi, Welcome. I'm sorry that I can't help you out, but maybe one of the others can.

Cindy

denversees4me
September 28th, 2009, 01:39 AM
Hi ALl
Roz im going to try to talk my DBF into sailing on the splendor on the 10th WISH US LUCK !!!! im going to check out prices now ... i want to go for my b day when i thought about a 4 day then i thought WAIT my Rozzy baby is sailing soon !!!! maybe we will see and let you know STAY TUNED ! also i will be up there again Oct 8-11 lets try for coffee maybe ?I need to take Denver to Ambers vet i think he is 20 min away ... we r going to get our fecal and health cert for our cruise on Halloween with disney !

wizard-of-roz
September 29th, 2009, 01:57 PM
Hi ALl
Roz im going to try to talk my DBF into sailing on the splendor on the 10th WISH US LUCK !!!! im going to check out prices now ... i want to go for my b day when i thought about a 4 day then i thought WAIT my Rozzy baby is sailing soon !!!! maybe we will see and let you know STAY TUNED ! also i will be up there again Oct 8-11 lets try for coffee maybe ?I need to take Denver to Ambers vet i think he is 20 min away ... we r going to get our fecal and health cert for our cruise on Halloween with disney !

Cari....I would love to cruise with you on January 10th. Let me know how the convincing the DBF goes!.....And, when you get in on October 8th...email me for a place and time to meet.

wizard-of-roz
September 29th, 2009, 02:05 PM
Hi everyone,

I'm hoping that someone can help me with a question about cruise travel to Italy. In November, my best friend will be taking her elderly mom and her service dog on a cruise that departs from Venice and returns to Rome.

She has contacted the Italian embassy and Princess cruises about the requirements for the service dog to:
1.enter Venice, Italy,
2.embark on the ship,
3.enter Rome/Civitavecchia, Italy AFTER the cruise. This seems to be the tricky part!

No one has been able to tell her the requirements for getting the service dog back into Italy after the cruise.
The cruise enters international waters and visits non-EU countries (i.e. Turkey and Croatia). Cruise also visits Greece (EU country). Turkey is a country that has a "high incidence of rabies", so dogs that travel from Turkey to Italy must have rabies-titer testing 3 months PRIOR to entering Italy.

The question is: if the service dog does not get off the ship in Turkey, will the rabies testing and 3-month quarantine still be required? Not sure how my friend can prove to the Italian officials that the dog did not visit this port. She is very concerned that the dog will be denied entry into Italy after the cruise. She has not been able to get an answer from the embassy or cruise line. If anyone has any information or advice, it would be much appreciated. Thanks so much!

Jodi

Jodi, contact the dogs Vet, they should be able to get the travel information for you. Or contact Princess Access Care Dept. Allison Muff at: 661.284.4521.

Also, even though the dog will not be disembarking in a certain country, the dog still must have all necessary immunizations and testing done. What if the ship has an emergency and everyone must evacuate the ship? It's always best to have EVERYTHING needed for every country you visit. Also, my suggestion is DO NOT LEAVE THE SHIP in any country that has a reputation for rabies.

You can leave the dog on the ship with one of you and each of you can visit separately.

Although the dog may be protected from all diseases, you wouldn't want a stray dog to attack your dog. Service Dogs are trained to NOT be confrontational and aggressive. But, other dogs still see them as a threat.

jodikt
September 29th, 2009, 11:31 PM
Jodi, contact the dogs Vet, they should be able to get the travel information for you. Or contact Princess Access Care Dept. Allison Muff at: 661.284.4521.

Also, even though the dog will not be disembarking in a certain country, the dog still must have all necessary immunizations and testing done. What if the ship has an emergency and everyone must evacuate the ship? It's always best to have EVERYTHING needed for every country you visit. Also, my suggestion is DO NOT LEAVE THE SHIP in any country that has a reputation for rabies.

You can leave the dog on the ship with one of you and each of you can visit separately.

Although the dog may be protected from all diseases, you wouldn't want a stray dog to attack your dog. Service Dogs are trained to NOT be confrontational and aggressive. But, other dogs still see them as a threat.


Thanks so much Roz...very helpful info and good advice!

denversees4me
October 1st, 2009, 11:39 PM
Hi Roz
Im just waiting to hear back from DBF about the 10th ...fingers crossed !

Also - whats your schedule like the week/weekend of the 8th ( oct ) im going to be at ambers . Im waiting to hear from a local puppy raiser to see what day shes able to take me to Ambers vet with Denver so i can get his health cert fecal and heartworm test done , but im hoping we will know something soon so i can schedule an appt and then e mail you to see what day if any works for you maybe for coffee ... do you starbuck LOL theres one within walking distance from ambers and im sure she would love to get Hamlett and the kids out for a while to meet with you as well ..... let me know your schedule and say hi to papa and brenny for us xoxoxox
http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab93/denversees4me/wook1.jpg

denversees4me
October 1st, 2009, 11:41 PM
that is Denver on the left with pup in advance traning Ava - DONT TELL BRENNY they didnt REALLY get married Denver says they were just pretending !

wizard-of-roz
October 2nd, 2009, 12:15 PM
that is Denver on the left with pup in advance traning Ava - DONT TELL BRENNY they didnt REALLY get married Denver says they were just pretending !

Cari, I love the picture of Mr. Denver.....he's such a handsome boy (and such a wonderful worker), he'd better stay true to Brenny! Although, Ava is really cute!

Cari, I'm confused about the date of Oct. 8th? (Oct. 8th is a Thursday), if you mean the 10th, I can't do it. Let me know the real date. And, I'll meet wherever you want, if it's doable.

My fingers are crossed for January 10th and all of us onboard the Splendor. I'd love it!!!!!

Did you find the artificial grass to take along......I haven't really started to look. I don't want to buy the expensive stuff but I also don't want "astroturf!"

Chacooe
October 2nd, 2009, 09:35 PM
Hi Roz, I was wondering how it turned out with your TA. You never came back to update us on the roll call so I just thought I would ask you here.
Kathy

S.S. Cruisers
October 4th, 2009, 10:24 AM
Mornin' all:
Beautiful weather, finally. This is why we live here during the unbearable summers! Hubby was sitting in his recliner last night and looked out the patio door, above the block wall was this gigantic full moon with a gazillion stars all around. Reminds me of being on a cruise ship and seeing forever in the sky.

Everyone have a great Sunday.

Nancy

DisneyKidsDad
October 5th, 2009, 09:50 AM
We went to our first graduate workshop on Saturday at the CCI campus on Long Island, NY. We had a great day. We got to catch up with some old friends and even make some new ones. We got alot of new information and even learned some new training tricks. It was great to see what some people have been able to teach their amazing dogs. We are now inspired to teach Orson some new tasks. I never expected to see such a turnout. There were people there from as far away as Virginia, Rhode Island and Boston. CCI let people get there Friday and stay in the dorms overnight. They even provided a great lunch for everyone. They offered free teeth cleaning, nail clipping and weigh-ins. Orson has to loose two pounds. It is something we will look forward to every year.

wizard-of-roz
October 5th, 2009, 12:52 PM
Hi Roz, I was wondering how it turned out with your TA. You never came back to update us on the roll call so I just thought I would ask you here.
Kathy

Kathy, this is what happens when you spread yourself too thin. I thought I had told everyone the outcome......Well, he offered me $30 instead of the $60 he had initially offered. He whined and complained and reiterated....totally backpeddling.....that he didn't think he had done anything wrong but that he would be happy to meet me half way. He applied the $30 as a "discount" to my final cruise confirmation.

I feel so fortunate to be able to cruise in light of our economy and in consideration of just how many folks lives are turned upside down because of it. I don't want to be in the "complainer camp" any longer.

I use this TA because he works with the special needs department of the cruiselines and is the "only" person in his agency who can help me with cruising with Brenda. I may change agency's in the future.

Thanks for asking!

wizard-of-roz
October 5th, 2009, 01:05 PM
We went to our first graduate workshop on Saturday at the CCI campus on Long Island, NY. We had a great day. We got to catch up with some old friends and even make some new ones. We got alot of new information and even learned some new training tricks. It was great to see what some people have been able to teach their amazing dogs. We are now inspired to teach Orson some new tasks. I never expected to see such a turnout. There were people there from as far away as Virginia, Rhode Island and Boston. CCI let people get there Friday and stay in the dorms overnight. They even provided a great lunch for everyone. They offered free teeth cleaning, nail clipping and weigh-ins. Orson has to loose two pounds. It is something we will look forward to every year.

Aren't they fun! I love the workshops and try to go to both the one in Oceanside and the one in Santa Rosa, CA. I always learn something new. I've learned so much from them. It's also fun to meet-up with your fellow graduates! :)

It so interesting to learn about retiring our dogs. Brenda is now 9 1/2 years old and still loves to go to work with me every day. But CCI taught us about what signs to look for and to not retire our dogs just because they're ill but to allow them to go into retirement feeling well and able to enjoy their lives as a "senior" dog.

She loves to work and she loves to cruise......I'm so glad. I don't know how I'm going to handle not having her beside me all the time.
As I watch the gray hair form around her face and on her body, I'm reminded that a dog's aging process is so remarkably quick. I wish I could make time stand still!!!!!! :o I have to stop......I come to tears when I think about this!!!!!!!

rangeley
October 5th, 2009, 03:47 PM
We went to our first graduate workshop on Saturday at the CCI campus on Long Island, NY. We had a great day. We got to catch up with some old friends and even make some new ones. We got alot of new information and even learned some new training tricks. It was great to see what some people have been able to teach their amazing dogs. We are now inspired to teach Orson some new tasks. I never expected to see such a turnout. There were people there from as far away as Virginia, Rhode Island and Boston. CCI let people get there Friday and stay in the dorms overnight. They even provided a great lunch for everyone. They offered free teeth cleaning, nail clipping and weigh-ins. Orson has to loose two pounds. It is something we will look forward to every year.


DKD, Sorry we didn't get to go. We have this cruise coming up and money is tight right now. We wish we knew you could stay in the dorms, that would have helped, but we would have still had to pay for the ferry which would be 150 or so. Also John would have had to take a day of work off. We have to go back in Feb to be recertified. So maybe the next workshop for us. Glad to hear they had a big turnout. John is always so worried about Wexlers weight, since they seem to be very strict about it. Hopefully we will meet another time.

Roz, I guess I'm the only one that doesn't use a TA. We actually used to have one but when I found the price on HAL was cheaper than our TA, we stopped using them. I check all the sites before we book and have always gotten the same price. We also do our own air. This girl was reccomended to us by a friend and she was ok the first trip. Then she pawned us off to an assistant and she was terrible!!! So I do it myself now.

Cindy

DisneyKidsDad
October 5th, 2009, 04:26 PM
DKD, Sorry we didn't get to go. We have this cruise coming up and money is tight right now. We wish we knew you could stay in the dorms, that would have helped, but we would have still had to pay for the ferry which would be 150 or so. Also John would have had to take a day of work off. We have to go back in Feb to be recertified. So maybe the next workshop for us. Glad to hear they had a big turnout. John is always so worried about Wexlers weight, since they seem to be very strict about it. Hopefully we will meet another time.

Cindy

Cindy,

Maybe we will see each other in Feb. That is when we go up for out next recertification too. This is the hopefully 3 year certification. When we went up last Feb., we were able to stay overnight. It must have been a Friday because I only took one day off from work. We didn't want to deal with the Friday afternoon traffic.

wizard-of-roz
October 5th, 2009, 05:12 PM
Cindy: I needed the TA's help this morning with the paperwork for our cruise in January. He was very "on top of everything", I'm glad. I could have contacted Carnival myself but I let him do it!

Bottom line....I had to contact Guest Access Support myself [any way] to find out about the darn form they're asking for us to complete and the $23.00 for getting it. Apparantly, it's the Agricultural Inspection Form and my Vet has them. And, it's the same form that we've been using for her past 12 cruises. I guess not all Vets have these forms....it's sure nice to have a Vet who has them.....makes the process so much simpler!

Their instructions were so dang complicated. I always use the same form and the same documentation and have NEVER been stopped or questioned. [Another reason to stick with Princess, they've got Brenda down to a science!] I had no idea what some of you have been going through. It's worth it to check with your Vet and see if he/she has these forms or not! It certainly makes traveling to foreign countries a lot easier.

When I explained it to Guest Access Support person she said that it's special licensing that the Vet has to be able to fill out these forms after checking the dog. Who knew!!!!

I pretty much do my own leg work for cruising and may not use a TA in the future.......we'll see. If I'm offered good OBC's I'll continue, if not.....I'm on my own!

I also asked about the filler for the pottybox and was told that it would be "paper pellets." We're definitely bringing along some astroturf to cover the stuff. Brenda hates it! I told the woman in Access Support about the pellet problem [and, that Princess is NOT using it anymore].....she said she would look into it! :mad:

SLOW, SLOW, that's what these deparments are. We've been telling them about it for years......When will they "get it?" I guess I'll have to cruise them more to get it right!!!!!!

They will place the pottybox on our veranda......we'll see!

sunshine426
October 5th, 2009, 06:12 PM
Hi Everyone. I am off to pick up my special little guy tomorow. Then off to visit at the Children's Hospital and one night stay at the house. Hopefully crate sleeping will go better. My daughter and husband are so excited because they are going to the "U-2" concert tomorow. "Khaki" and I will have fun tossing stuffed animals around and snuggling. I figure when they get in late, it will be a good time to take him our for a potty run!. He is only staying one night, due to my work schedule. Next week he is spending 5 nights here, so he and Sandy(resident house dog and dog in chief" can due some bonding.

I asked his trainer want she wants me to work on, besides basics and she said, retrieving stuffed animals. OK, we call that "toss the teddy" in our house so I imagine we can do that. Don't tell her but "Teddy Tossing" is a regualr activity here. LOL.

rangeley
October 6th, 2009, 08:33 AM
DKD, We go back Feb 5th for recertification, do you have a date when you have to go?

Roz, When we were getting "Cujo" last year, I had checked with our vet and he does do the certificate we need. We were very happy because as you said not all vets are allowed to do that. John has told HAL that we want some type of mulch in our box. Wexy is used to going on that cuz they have that at CCI and we have it around here. He figures its easier to pick up poop on that. We have a cabin in the front of the ship and outside our door is 2 hatches leading out to a deck in the front of the ship. We have asked they put the potty box there. Only thing with that is that i'll be the only one able to take him potty. The deck is kinda small for a potty box and us, so we figure this would be a good solution.

Sunshine, Love the Milk Bone commercial for Canine Assistants!!!!

Cindy

DisneyKidsDad
October 6th, 2009, 08:45 AM
DKD, We go back Feb 5th for recertification, do you have a date when you have to go?



Cindy,

We don't have a date yet but I would think it would be the same. If I remember, we only had one choice last year. And just so you know, the
recertification test in the mall is a whole lot easier than it was for the
certification. :D

wizard-of-roz
October 6th, 2009, 12:53 PM
Cindy,

We don't have a date yet but I would think it would be the same. If I remember, we only had one choice last year. And just so you know, the
recertification test in the mall is a whole lot easier than it was for the
certification. :D

I love this......When we went to the workshop in Oceanside, a few months ago, those of us who were up for recertification got to be recert'd. just by attending the workshop......talk about easy.

The instructors would observe each of us at various workshop areas/walking/toileting and while eating lunch.....unless there was some really overt mistake or a dog acting badly, you go recertified.....they sent it in the mail. Loved it!!!!! No stress, no taking anymore time off work, no special appointments!

Chacooe
October 6th, 2009, 06:25 PM
Kathy, this is what happens when you spread yourself too thin. I thought I had told everyone the outcome......Well, he offered me $30 instead of the $60 he had initially offered. He whined and complained and reiterated....totally backpeddling.....that he didn't think he had done anything wrong but that he would be happy to meet me half way. He applied the $30 as a "discount" to my final cruise confirmation.

I feel so fortunate to be able to cruise in light of our economy and in consideration of just how many folks lives are turned upside down because of it. I don't want to be in the "complainer camp" any longer.

I use this TA because he works with the special needs department of the cruiselines and is the "only" person in his agency who can help me with cruising with Brenda. I may change agency's in the future.

Thanks for asking!

Roz, I just found this out from my PVP at Carnival. Anyone with service animals or anyone who has special needs can call Carnivals Special Needs and get the same help that any TA would give you. All of the cruise lines that Carnival owns has these departments. Like my PVP said, they are the ones that the TA calls to set everything up. I think that is what I am going to do the next time I cruise with Missie. She said that these departments work very closely with the ship to make sure that everything you need or anything the service animal needs is taken care of. Just thought you would like to know this. Can't wait to meet you, we only have 95 days or to make it seem shorter, 13 weeks. :D :D :D

wizard-of-roz
October 6th, 2009, 06:33 PM
Roz, I just found this out from my PVP at Carnival. Anyone with service animals or anyone who has special needs can call Carnivals Special Needs and get the same help that any TA would give you. All of the cruise lines that Carnival owns has these departments. Like my PVP said, they are the ones that the TA calls to set everything up. I think that is what I am going to do the next time I cruise with Missie. She said that these departments work very closely with the ship to make sure that everything you need or anything the service animal needs is taken care of. Just thought you would like to know this. Can't wait to meet you, we only have 95 days or to make it seem shorter, 13 weeks. :D :D :D

Kathy, please come-up and introduce yourself to me.....you'll know who I am [so obvious]. I look forward to it! :)

And, you're so right about calling the cruiselines directly. I do most of the set-up and paperwork, for Brenda, myself, with them anyway!

I've been falling for their great prices and OBC's......I like getting the extra $$$$$$ to buy stuff and, I love the professional pictures of Brenda and always buy them. The money I get from the TA helps when the final bill comes. But, I'm sure there are lots of agency's that would be happy to have my "constant" business!

Sea you soon!
Roz

Quampapetet
October 7th, 2009, 05:33 PM
I will NOT microchip Brenda. She's almost 10, has a tattoo in her ear [done by CCI], always wears her collar with all information on it. I keep extra information in the glove compartment of my car [forms are gotten from IAADP] and in my refrigerator, at home. I have a sticker on my window [car and home] alerting the public and medical service people that I have an SD and her information is in the fridge. They're great for letting the public know that she's a Service Dog and to treat her differently than a pet!

That's your choice, but she won't be able to travel with you to the places that require a microchip. Microchips are better than tattoos and tags which can be modified/covered up/fade or can fall off/be taken off. You can put on your microchip record that your dog is your SD, too. Age isn't an issue, if that's what you're wondering; a dog can be microchipped at any age.


Be very careful with immunizations/vaccines on a "senior dog", they will ALWAYS need Rabi's Vaccine but some of the other's are no longer necessary and, sometimes can be too much for their systems to absorb. Always ask your Vet and make sure the person doing the innoculations knows the age of your dog.

Like I said, I titer instead of vaccinate. Everybody should do that with their pets and SDs. It is safer for your dog, as over-vaccination can cause illness and a shorter life. I don't give vaccines we don't need (like Bordetella) or that aren't reputable (like Lymes). We do need the Lepto one for the Bahamas every year; that one does last only one year, according to this country's leading vaccination expert, Dr. Dodds (I asked her myself). Oh, and of course we have to give the rabies vaccination every three years, unfortunately - you have to do that regardless of whether or not you travel, since it is required by law in our state (and other states).

If/when you do have to vaccinate, like for a puppy and boosters, stay away from those combination vaccines! Do single vaccines spaced out a couple of weeks from each other for the best interest of your dog (whether a pet or SD). This will help keep his health in good shape. It may cost more (if your vet charges you for each session), but it will be worth it to have a healthy dog who lives for a long time. :)


I am also looking for some grass to "roll-up" and take with us [and, then leave behind when we cruise.] The stuff we're using on our patio, now, is very expensive [it's been there for over a year and a half and looks like new and cleans so easily-I bought it from "In the Company of Dogs..online] I wouldn't buy it for this use.

Yeah, that stuff is expensive! Glad to know it works well, though.


Anyone have a good connection for the right stuff.....not "astroturf", [this would never clean-up easily] but the faux grass that has been antibacterial treated and is reasonably priced would be perfect?

This is the site I found, though I have not tried their grass or made an inquiries yet about it (since I have been busy with other things): http://www.synlawn.com/ They have many different types of grass, several of which are antibacterial for doggy use. If you try it, let us know how it is!

Quampapetet
October 7th, 2009, 05:34 PM
The potty area is the biggest stress for us when cruising. After the issues last time, I am scared to try going without taking something with me. I am hoping to find something before we cruise again

Same here. That's what I am looking to do. And not only because of the issues I had, but because of the issues others also have had and posted on here!

Quampapetet
October 7th, 2009, 05:54 PM
Cindy: I needed the TA's help this morning with the paperwork for our cruise in January. He was very "on top of everything", I'm glad. I could have contacted Carnival myself but I let him do it!

So glad your TA is back to doing things right after I read your thread in the Carnival forum!



Bottom line....I had to contact Guest Access Support myself [any way] to find out about the darn form they're asking for us to complete and the $23.00 for getting it. Apparantly, it's the Agricultural Inspection Form and my Vet has them. And, it's the same form that we've been using for her past 12 cruises. I guess not all Vets have these forms....it's sure nice to have a Vet who has them.....makes the process so much simpler!

Their instructions were so dang complicated. I always use the same form and the same documentation and have NEVER been stopped or questioned. [Another reason to stick with Princess, they've got Brenda down to a science!] I had no idea what some of you have been going through. It's worth it to check with your Vet and see if he/she has these forms or not! It certainly makes traveling to foreign countries a lot easier.

Yes, PLEASE never pay for an int'l health certificate form! If your vet is USDA approved (as they need to be to fill out the form), they will have these forms and they are included in the cost of the exam for getting them! You can find Web sites online that will try to sell you the forms, too, but that's just silly. Not all vets are USDA vets, so that's why not all vets will have the form. Those who aren't can't fill out the form, so there's no need for them to have them. At my vet office there are two USDA-approved vets and the others are not USDA-approved. One of the two appoved vets will always be working (though when I travel around holidays I always make my appointment months in advance to be sure I don't affect the vets' holiday plans).

(Note: This is different from getting the certificate stamped/signed by the USDA office, which some countries require, but not any that I've been to or am planned to be going to within the next year. In the case of those countries, your USDA-approved vet fills out the form which you then take or send to the closest USDA office which certifies the form and sends it back to you. It sounds complicated!)




I pretty much do my own leg work for cruising and may not use a TA in the future.......we'll see. If I'm offered good OBC's I'll continue, if not.....I'm on my own!

You'd likely do fine on your own. I use a TA for these group trips (and she's my best friend), but otherwise I do things myself (or a family member or friend does some of it, if I'm not going solo).


I also asked about the filler for the pottybox and was told that it would be "paper pellets." We're definitely bringing along some astroturf to cover the stuff. Brenda hates it! I told the woman in Access Support about the pellet problem [and, that Princess is NOT using it anymore].....she said she would look into it! :mad:

SLOW, SLOW, that's what these deparments are. We've been telling them about it for years......When will they "get it?" I guess I'll have to cruise them more to get it right!!!!!!

They will place the pottybox on our veranda......we'll see!

I'm going on Carnival this time, too, so will DEFINITELY be bringing something so we don't have to use those evil paper pellets!! I saw a bag of those things at Petco the other week and I can definitely see why Brenda had such a bad time with them! :(

What form(s) have you completed for Carnival as far as special needs goes? I have only gotten one one-page form from them so far and it had no mention of service animals, so I just wrote it in on the little place they had to write in things that weren't included on the form. My TA is going to call in another day if she hasn't yet heard back from them about anything else. Royal Caribbean had a better form. Though the form's potty specs did NOT reflect what they actually gave us! :mad:

wizard-of-roz
October 7th, 2009, 06:25 PM
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I'm going on Carnival this time, too, so will DEFINITELY be bringing something so we don't have to use those evil paper pellets!! I saw a bag of those things at Petco the other week and I can definitely see why Brenda had such a bad time with them! :(

What form(s) have you completed for Carnival as far as special needs goes? I have only gotten one one-page form from them so far and it had no mention of service animals, so I just wrote it in on the little place they had to write in things that weren't included on the form. My TA is going to call in another day if she hasn't yet heard back from them about anything else. Royal Caribbean had a better form. Though the form's potty specs did NOT reflect what they actually gave us! :mad:

Quam: I received a "welcome" letter which specifically states: "Carnival Cruise Lines only permits service/working animals onboard; a working/service animal is legally defined and is trained to meet the disability related need. We DO NOT allow guests to sail with pets, therapy/companion animal, or service animals in training."

This certainly answers the question that some have about therapy or puppies in training dogs.

Attached to this letter is a form which states all their rules for the service dog and must be signed by you; relieving Carnival of any respsonsibility for the dog or any damage that the dog may cause, including injuring another passenger and if your dog causes any disturbance it may be denied passage on any future Carnival Cruise ship......Please....they should have passengers that behave as well as these service dogs!

Anyway, you MUST sign and affirm your signature with a date and fax it back to them.

I also fax'd the Department of Food and Agriculture form along with her Certification [from CCI], City License and Vet Receipt for recent medical exam visit.

I make two copies of all of the above documentation...*One to keep in my purse; *one to give to the folks at registration [it definitely speeds-up the process, you don't have to wait for them to make a copy.]

Quampapetet
October 7th, 2009, 06:35 PM
Quam: I received a "welcome" letter which specifically states: "Carnival Cruise Lines only permits service/working animals onboard; a working/service animal is legally defined and is trained to meet the disability related need. We DO NOT allow guests to sail with pets, therapy/companion animal, or service animals in training."


This certainly answers the question that some have about therapy or puppies in training dogs.

Attached to this letter is a form which states all their rules for the service dog and must be signed by you; relieving Carnival of any respsonsibility for the dog or any damage that the dog may cause, including injuring another passenger and if your dog causes any disturbance it may be denied passage on any future Carnival Cruise ship......Please....they should have passengers that behave as well as these service dogs!

LOL, seriously! All the human passengers should sign that for themselves! :p

That's not the form I got. Maybe they will send it after my TA speaks with them in another day or so. Though, it seems like it is something that could be signed on the day the cruise starts if need be. (It isn't something the vet needs to sign or something, in other words.)


Anyway, you MUST sign and affirm your signature with a date and fax it back to them.

I also fax'd the Department of Food and Agriculture form along with her Certification [from CCI], City License and Vet Receipt for recent medical exam visit.


I make two copies of all of the above documentation...*One to keep in my purse; *one to give to the folks at registration [it definitely speeds-up the process, you don't have to wait for them to make a copy.]


I won't have that 'til a day or two before the cruise, since the Bahamas requires it within 48 hours of departure, so they will get it on cruise day. Yeah, copies are good to make. Royal Caribbean took forever to make copies when I was waiting to get on the ship and then they apparently didn't even make enough copies because they called me later during the cruise to ask if the purser could come up to get the papers from me so they could make more copies! :rolleyes: I guess they forgot how many ports they were going to or something, I don't know.

Thanks for your info.!

Valentine's Mom
October 9th, 2009, 11:15 PM
Quam: I received a "welcome" letter which specifically states: "Carnival Cruise Lines only permits service/working animals onboard; a working/service animal is legally defined and is trained to meet the disability related need. We DO NOT allow guests to sail with pets, therapy/companion animal, or service animals in training."


This certainly answers the question that some have about therapy or puppies in training dogs.

Attached to this letter is a form which states all their rules for the service dog and must be signed by you; relieving Carnival of any respsonsibility for the dog or any damage that the dog may cause, including injuring another passenger and if your dog causes any disturbance it may be denied passage on any future Carnival Cruise ship......Please....they should have passengers that behave as well as these service dogs!

Anyway, you MUST sign and affirm your signature with a date and fax it back to them.

I also fax'd the Department of Food and Agriculture form along with her Certification [from CCI], City License and Vet Receipt for recent medical exam visit.


I make two copies of all of the above documentation...*One to keep in my purse; *one to give to the folks at registration [it definitely speeds-up the process, you don't have to wait for them to make a copy.]



Roz,

Valentine and I have traveled with Carnival so much that when she arrives in Rome this week they are to have a special platinum card just for her. LOL We will be on a b tb cruise and David and I won't be platinum until the 2nd week but miss Valentine gets hers right away. Hmmmmm I wonder if she will let me use her benifits? Last year on Carnival Freedom they did give her a solid gold ship on a stick for being the hardest working dog on board,.

This year we will be leaving on Monday for our btob cruise. Can't wait. Valentine does have a microchip but I really don't think that I 'd do it again. I think a tat is much better. Her chip tends to travel ( not dangerous yet but can be.)

Other than the problem with the potty box abd pellets you shoiuldn't have any problems. The staff is very friendly just sometimes a little too happy to have a dog on board.

All I have ever done so far is fill out the paperrwork that they sent me fill out the one page they send the fax the shot records and the large agruculture papers.
Hope to see you aboard sometime.


Now getting a h/a room is another matter all together.

giggleykim
October 10th, 2009, 12:06 PM
:confused: What ship are you going on, on Monday. We are going on the Dream next month, and was wondering about the liter box, and where they might put it on this ship.
Have a great trip.

Valentine's Mom
October 10th, 2009, 08:51 PM
:confused: What ship are you going on, on Monday. We are going on the Dream next month, and was wondering about the liter box, and where they might put it on this ship.
Have a great trip.


Hi giggleykim

We will be on the Dream doing a Med cruise then staying on for the T/a crossing into NYC As for the potty box they use the dreaded paper pelletts it's called Second Nature by Purina. Valentine has used it since we got her so she doesn't mind. However she is a small 10 lb dog not a large 50 lb lab with webbed feet. The box is 4x4 wooden and usually placed on an outside deck that is not often used. You can have it put on your balcony if you wish, I keep Valentine's in my bathroom as her's is the size of a cat box. Just ask if you have any other questions if I can't help someone else on this board will gladly help. We are all friends and welcome you to our group.:D

Chacooe
October 11th, 2009, 01:18 AM
When I take Missie, I just use Chux bed pads for her to do her business on, them I drop the tiny poop in the toilet and throw it away. Missie only weighs 3 lbs so this is perfect for her. Here is a picture of my Missie,

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc101/Chacooe/Sparkles2.jpg

This is one dog that love to travel and when she sees me pull out my suitcases she knows it is time to go somewhere, but what is really cute is when I pull hers out, she just runs in her little circles until I close her suitcase, then she starts this little whimpering, kinda of like she is telling me, "Well mom I am all packed let get a move on here, no more dillying or dallying around." Some people think I am crazy to have a suit case just for Missie, but I carry everything in there for her and that way it is not in my suitcase. I keep hers right with me that way I don't have to worry about it getting lost.

Quampapetet
October 11th, 2009, 02:27 AM
Funny thing, the day after I posted my last post, Carnival sent my TA the two pages that Roz mentioned getting. So, now I just have to fax back the second sheet (just something you sign and date and put your booking info. on) and I have to fax the Bahamas permit (I guess I will make a shrunken photocopy of it to fax since it is legal size and not letter size) and rabies certificate (just got the new one [and rabies tag] for the next twelve months). After my service dog's annual vet exam coming up, when I get the titer results I will fax those as well. They said something about faxing the health certificate, but I won't get that 'til the day before I leave for the cruise, so I'm not sure why they ask for that if it likely won't even make it to the ship (unless they fax or e-mail it onto the ship from their offices or something).

I saw on the paper that it says if you don't want to use paper pellets, you must bring your own substance/surface that you do want to use. No way will I be using the paper pellets - I think my dog will hate them, I don't want her going on paper, I don't want to clean up in the paper pellets, and I think they'd get stuck in her paws (her breed has webbed feet) and be painful, too. So, I'll be doing my own potty box. I just need to get going on making it. I know exactly what I want to do for it, just need to figure out the specifics....

wizard-of-roz
October 12th, 2009, 04:06 PM
First: Bon Voyage to all of you who are going to cruise soon or on your cruises......May your skies be blue and your sea be gentle.

Barbara: Have a fantastically wonderful time.....Please come back and tell us all about the cruise and how Valentine did. I love that Valentine is such a frequent cruiser. She and Brenda could go off on their own and know more than most of us!!!!

Kathy: "Missie" is so cute....I'd have a very had time not picking her up and playing with her. You must have a tough time convincing folks to leave her alone!

Quam: When is Carnival going to "get it!" We ALL HATE THE PELLETS....and, they're not necessary or needed. There are better choices, "HELLO"; "just contact some of your sister companies and ASK!"

Second: Our neighbors were laying down artificial turf on their front lawn....I asked if I could have a 5x5 cutting, and I'd be willing to pay for it......they gave it to me.....I'm so excited. It rolls-up very nicely and looks just like the piece I bought from "In The Company of Dogs", for over $140.00.

It's going onboard with us. I'm just going to leave it [it was free]....unless, somehow I can get it hosed off for our last morning disembarkation. Then, I could take it with us on every cruise.......Cleaning it off [just the urine] is the main issue. I'm going to let the ship lay down whatever they'd like...I'll just lay the grass on top of their litter. I'll clean the pooh, but the urine is my concern.

I thought about placing it in the shower and washing it there......what do you think? It dries very quickly....that the amazing part about this stuff.

Geezz! I wish the cruiselines would invest in it. They have someone cleaning the area that we use and filling the box......it would be so much easier and, I think more hygienic, if they'd invest in the artificial stuff. ALL the dogs would love it!!!!

rangeley
October 13th, 2009, 09:05 AM
Hi all, I have a few questions,

1. Does anyone have info on taking the dog to..St Thomas, Puerto Rico, or Grand Turk?
2. Any info on the dog getting seasick?
3. Any info on the dog drinking the water on the ship?
4. Anyone have some terrific travel bowls they bring with them? (most
of the ones i've seen aren't that great)
5. Anyone bring a dog bed with them? We have something called "the dog hog" it's a thin bed that rolls up.

Any other helpful hints would be much appreciated.

Cindy

DisneyKidsDad
October 13th, 2009, 09:42 AM
Hi all, I have a few questions,

1. Does anyone have info on taking the dog to..St Thomas, Puerto Rico, or Grand Turk?
2. Any info on the dog getting seasick?
3. Any info on the dog drinking the water on the ship?
4. Anyone have some terrific travel bowls they bring with them? (most
of the ones i've seen aren't that great)
5. Anyone bring a dog bed with them? We have something called "the dog hog" it's a thin bed that rolls up.

Any other helpful hints would be much appreciated.

Cindy

Cindy,

We didn't need any paperwork for St. Thomas.
Orson never had a problen with being seasick or with the water on the ship.
We have a travel bowl that stands up on it's own so it works pretty good.
Orson slept on the bed with our daughter.
Hope this helps a little.

S.S. Cruisers
October 13th, 2009, 11:41 AM
Mornin' all:
I have the week off for Fall Break. Never heard of such a thing, but am up for it. I needed some time off. We also get 2 weeks at Christmas and then 2 weeks at Spring Break. Unfortunately those dates are also the most expensive for cruising! Maybe I can catch up with some of the threads here at CC.

Everyone have a great week.

Nancy

rangeley
October 13th, 2009, 11:48 AM
Cindy,

We didn't need any paperwork for St. Thomas.
Orson never had a problen with being seasick or with the water on the ship.
We have a travel bowl that stands up on it's own so it works pretty good.
Orson slept on the bed with our daughter.
Hope this helps a little.


Thanks DKD. What kind of bowl do you have??

Nancy, John had a few days off this week. I never heard of fall break. But I wouldn't complain. John is lucky that his school is very flexible about him going on trips. We never go on any school vacations. Always after or before. We used to go in April, now we have changed to January. No kids and nice and quiet!

Cindy

S.S. Cruisers
October 13th, 2009, 12:35 PM
Cindy;
I agree. I have my pay check averaged out so I get paid every 2 weeks whether I am there or not. The checks are smaller, but at least I know that money is coming in. We love to cruise in the fall. Now, having custody of 6 year old grandson the issue is "Will it hurt him missing school?" He is doing fantastic. He got student of the month last month and we are very proud of him. We just need to keep up the momentum. His mother and uncle didn't do so well in staying in school and we definately do not want him to follow the same path..........

Nancy

DisneyKidsDad
October 13th, 2009, 01:03 PM
Thanks DKD. What kind of bowl do you have??


Cindy

Not sure of the brand but it's made out of a blue nylon. It's round and the sides stay up. It also came with a food bowl made the same way. It worked out well because we could leave it out in the cabin so Orson could get a drink while we were in there.

wizard-of-roz
October 13th, 2009, 02:39 PM
Hi all, I have a few questions,

1. Does anyone have info on taking the dog to..St Thomas, Puerto Rico, or Grand Turk? We had no problem in St. Thomas or Puerto Rico, I've never been to Grand Turk. Just be aware of strays. You may not see any, hopefully! Carry all of Wexler's papers with you, along with your Passport or copies thereof!
2. Any info on the dog getting seasick? In 12 cruises and long, long road trips....she's NEVER gotten sick. How did Wex do on his road trip home? That's a pretty good clue.....cars move more than ships do [usually].
3. Any info on the dog drinking the water on the ship? The drinking water on the ship is more purified than most bottled water [although Morey still brings his own bottled water] it's not necessary.
4. Anyone have some terrific travel bowls they bring with them? (most
of the ones i've seen aren't that great) I bought a plastic /sectioned bowl. It's very light and fits in my suitcase [it's a bit smaller than her normal bowl but it's perfect.
5. Anyone bring a dog bed with them? We have something called "the dog hog" it's a thin bed that rolls up. I always get a cabin with a couch and Brenda sleeps there but once we brought a sheepskin bed [I rolled it up, tied a ribbon around it and shlepped it with us.] In hotels/ships that don't have a couch she sleeps with PaPa. [she won't sleep with me....]

Any other helpful hints would be much appreciated. Don't forget his favorite toy...Brenda has a black dog [Maggie] and a squeaky squirrel, we bring them both. We also bring a few tennis balls for playing in a deserted lounge [she's lost a few overboard...when she carried them in her mouth to the outside Promenade Deck and literally dropped them in the ocean.] I don't let her carry them outside anymore!

Have a wonderful time! Wait til you see Wex wafting his nose in the sea air......it's glorious!

Don't forget to look for people in darkened theatres and lounges.....they're not expecting a dog and Wexler is black and not easy to see. Brenda's tail got run over by a wheelchair, I have never heard her cry like that......it was awful!

Cindy

You're going to love cruising with your dog........

Quampapetet
October 13th, 2009, 03:14 PM
Quam: When is Carnival going to "get it!" We ALL HATE THE PELLETS....and, they're not necessary or needed. There are better choices, "HELLO"; "just contact some of your sister companies and ASK!"

Seriously!!! I highly doubt they have some warehouse full of the pellets somewhere, so it isn't like they have some large supply they need to use up before they change. They prob'ly just make some intern run down to Petsmart for a bag of the stuff before the ship leaves. ;)


Second: Our neighbors were laying down artificial turf on their front lawn....I asked if I could have a 5x5 cutting, and I'd be willing to pay for it......they gave it to me.....I'm so excited. It rolls-up very nicely and looks just like the piece I bought from "In The Company of Dogs", for over $140.00.

That's so great!! And free is even better! Do you know what the brand is? Does it look like any of the ones on the link I gave previously? I think I am going to try one of those (one of the ones treated for doggy use, of course - I am all about antibacterialness!).


It's going onboard with us. I'm just going to leave it [it was free]....unless, somehow I can get it hosed off for our last morning disembarkation. Then, I could take it with us on every cruise.......Cleaning it off [just the urine] is the main issue. I'm going to let the ship lay down whatever they'd like...I'll just lay the grass on top of their litter. I'll clean the pooh, but the urine is my concern.

I thought about placing it in the shower and washing it there......what do you think? It dries very quickly....that the amazing part about this stuff.

That is what I am going to do - rinse the thing off in the shower. Even though you got yours for free, you cruise a lot, so you will need it for more than just that one trip. If you leave it, you'll have to buy another piece for your next cruise. If you bring a large garbage bag to put it in after you wash it, I think you'll be fine even if it hasn't dried completely by that point.

Geezz! I wish the cruiselines would invest in it. They have someone cleaning the area that we use and filling the box......it would be so much easier and, I think more hygienic, if they'd invest in the artificial stuff. ALL the dogs would love it!!!!

You'd think they would! I'm really surprised that they haven't by now. There are many different brands of doggy potties with faux grass on them (some even with vertical areas for boy doggies, hehe) to choose from, so it isn't like they are hard to find or anything. They've got those power washers for the decks, so it isn't like it would be hard for them to keep the stuff clean. And all dogs on int'l routes have been to the vet for a health certificate, so they should all be free of diseases and such to worry about.

wizard-of-roz
October 13th, 2009, 03:28 PM
Quam: The artificial grass is a nice quality....each blade is as long as the treated stuff I bought; the base is sturdy [a bit thinner than the doggy stuff, it will be easy to roll-up] and, I know that it has not been antibacterially treated. So, I really have to be careful in washing it down well. It will only be used by Brenda so, I'm not concerned about her catching anything.

I'm going to use our antibacterial soap [I always bring a container of the stuff for each cruise, anyway] and, while I'm washing it down I'll soap it up and rinse it off!

Good idea in bringing along a large trash bag.....although, I bet I could get one from the cruiseship, they have lots of trash bags onboard.

Quampapetet
October 13th, 2009, 03:36 PM
Hi all, I have a few questions,

1. Does anyone have info on taking the dog to..St Thomas, Puerto Rico, or Grand Turk?

Ask your vet for confirmation, but from what I have found, you just need a health certificate (int'l for GT) and, of course, rabies certificate (that'll be noted on the health certificate, but it is always a good idea to bring as well in case the vet forgot to write the expiration date down or something [which my vet did once, but thankfully I also had the rabies certificate so all was well]). St. Thomas and Puerto Rico are part of the U.S. - the ADA applies there, too, which is helpful for access!

2. Any info on the dog getting seasick?

Get some MotionEase. It is an herbal remedy for both humans and animals. You just rub it behind your ear/dog's ear. It does have an herbally scent to it (don't they all?), but better smell that than have a sick person or doggy! (Note: For myself, I also take Bonine. But for my dog, I just use the MotionEase.) You can also ask your vet about other meds to use and what exact dosage for your size dog would be.

3. Any info on the dog drinking the water on the ship?

Pour it into a bowl and place it in front of the dog. He'll lap it up. :p Sorry, couldn't help it! ;)

I assume you mean is the tap water okay for a dog to drink? Humans drink it, so it should be fine. However, I've heard there is extra salt in it because it is ocean water - don't know if that's true or not about the extra salt, but it does make a little sense even though they treat the water to make it potable. You can always use bottled water. Or bring pouched doggy water with you (that's what I did for my previous cruise - it is called Wet Dog [do a Google for the site; do NOT enter .com after that name 'cause you will get a bad site!!] and I got it from PetFoodDirect - not sure if it still exists or not, though). This coming trip, I'll just use bottled water. My dog doesn't have issues with different waters like dogs with sensitive stomachs do, but I do have questions about the salt in the ship's water and I drink bottled water myself, so....

4. Anyone have some terrific travel bowls they bring with them? (most
of the ones i've seen aren't that great)

I use the plastic folding disposable Outward Hound bowls (which other brands have since copied). They are cheap in price, but last a long time. I use them for all our travels and I also keep one in my dog's pack in case we're out for a long time and she needs a sip. They fold up so they can fit in a pocket, so that's why they are so handy. They are lightweight. They fit plenty of water or food.

5. Anyone bring a dog bed with them? We have something called "the dog hog" it's a thin bed that rolls up.

No, I don't. I don't need another thing to bring, LOL, and she wouldn't use it anyway. Love the name "The Dog Hog", though!!! :D If you think your particular dog would want it and use it or need it as a reminder of home (if he's not used to travelling or doesn't travel well), go ahead and bring it. Every dog is different!

Any other helpful hints would be much appreciated.

Cindy

Bring some items to repair a broken dog harness (or vest, if that's what you use on your dog). On my previous cruise, guess what happened just after sail-away? My mobility harness broke! Arrgghh! One of the latches on the chest piece that holds a strap from the shoulder piece to the chest piece came off. I went to the front desk and the lady there was able to use a screwdriver to screw it back on, but that only lasted a day; it came off the next day. The threads were stripped, so I knew screwing it back on wouldn't work. Thankfully, in port that day I had purchased a necklace that came in a box with one of those thin gold-colored elastics keeping it closed, so I was able to use the elastic to keep the harness together for the rest of the trip (though I had to keep fixing it sometimes when it would come off again). On a ship, especially if you have sea days, you can't find just everything you might need like you could on a land vacation, so think of what small repair items you may need and pack them!

And bring an extra leash and extra collar - I always keep a cheap (but cute) nylon collar and leash in my travel bags for just in case; she normally wears leather.

And I recommend some rinseless shampoo (I use Chris Christensen's "Show Off"), especially after a day at the beach. You just spray it on the dog, rub the dog to foam the stuff up, and then wipe it off. Quick and easy to do, especially on vacation.

Quampapetet
October 13th, 2009, 03:57 PM
We had no problem in St. Thomas or Puerto Rico, I've never been to Grand Turk. Just be aware of strays. You may not see any, hopefully! Carry all of Wexler's papers with you, along with your Passport or copies thereof!

On the Grand Turk board here, somebody did say they saw some stray dogs. Another person saw some loose horses on a beach (they belonged to somebody, they said, but they were just enjoying the beach/weren't penned in). But, you can get that in the States, too, so just use your usual precautions. If you stay on the beach that is part of the cruise center, I doubt you'll see either dogs or horses. If you walk a little to a more private beach or go into town, you might see one or both.

I always get a cabin with a couch and Brenda sleeps there but once we brought a sheepskin bed [I rolled it up, tied a ribbon around it and shlepped it with us.] In hotels/ships that don't have a couch she sleeps with PaPa. [she won't sleep with me....]

Why won't she sleep with you? :confused:

My girl always sleeps with me. Or, if I'm sharing the room with a friend, she may switch between the beds, but mostly be with me. She moves throughout the night when one spot gets too warm for her liking (little princess ... LOL). My upcoming cabin doesn't have a couch, but she wouldn't sleep on it at night anyway.


Don't forget his favorite toy...Brenda has a black dog [Maggie] and a squeaky squirrel, we bring them both. We also bring a few tennis balls for playing in a deserted lounge [she's lost a few overboard...when she carried them in her mouth to the outside Promenade Deck and literally dropped them in the ocean.] I don't let her carry them outside anymore!

Did she purposely drop them to see them go splash? Hehe.

I usually get my girl a new toy for or on a trip. Yes, that means she has a whole lot of toys, including ones she gets not on trips, hehe. She has a big doggy toy bin full of them (when she doesn't leave some of them spread all over the house!). I already got one for the upcoming cruise because when I was at the pet store last month they had summer-themed toys on clearance sale and one was a good one for being on a cruise ship (I forget what it is now, but I think it was a plush animal with a life ring or something), so I picked it up and put it away. For the Disney trip I was just on last week, I picked up a couple toys to save for her upcoming birthday (but I brought along two of her Disney toys in case she wanted one while on the trip - and she got a new one just back in February on our previous Disney trip, so she really doesn't need another...). Anyway, a new toy is always exciting, so she enjoys it.

This time I have a big balcony she can play out on, so I'll need to remember to bring a ball to roll around on it (but NOT to bounce, in case it goes over the side!!).

Roz, remember that the Carnival thing you signed says you are agreeing that off-leash dogs in public areas are a no-no. But maybe you can ask the ship if you can have some scheduled time in the meeting room for her to play, if there isn't a group already using it on your cruise. They might allow that, if you don't have a large enough room or balcony for your pup to play on.

Quampapetet
October 13th, 2009, 04:02 PM
Quam: The artificial grass is a nice quality....each blade is as long as the treated stuff I bought; the base is sturdy [a bit thinner than the doggy stuff, it will be easy to roll-up] and, I know that it has not been antibacterially treated. So, I really have to be careful in washing it down well. It will only be used by Brenda so, I'm not concerned about her catching anything.

I'm going to use our antibacterial soap [I always bring a container of the stuff for each cruise, anyway] and, while I'm washing it down I'll soap it up and rinse it off!

Good idea in bringing along a large trash bag.....although, I bet I could get one from the cruiseship, they have lots of trash bags onboard.

Ah, yeah, if it isn't treated, you might want to just see how it works to bring this piece this time and then for next time you can get a treated piece.

Yeah, I always bring a bottle of antibacterial hand soap on my travels, since hotels only give nasty bars of soap. And I always have Purell on me in my dog's pack.

wizard-of-roz
October 13th, 2009, 04:30 PM
Why won't Brenda sleep with me?: As far as the trainers/puppy raisers/CCI/Vet, etc. can figure out; it's because she works for me. She sees me as her "leader" and being an Alpha herself, she has no comfort zone sleeping with me.......who know's....if you guys have a guess why......please tell me!

I'd love her to sleep with me.....I've coaxed her every way I could think of. She'll start off laying with me but will ALWAYS leave the bed and go to her bed within the hour. She will sleep the entire night with PaPa if he's in his own bed. In our bed at home, she won't [I'm in it!] Which is why we always have twin beds or two doubles, when we travel. We found this out through "trial & error!"

At home, she literally leaves our room, goes to her couch [we tried to set it up in our room, she left the room and went to the living room couch], she'll sleep the night, in the living room, on that couch. it's okay with me, wherever she's most comfortable. It's like she's standing guard. I don't know.

She's done this for over 7 years.....who am I to question it!!

Brenda loose in a lounge: It was actually onboard the Celebrity Summit that we learned to use an empty lounge to exercise and play ball with Brenny. It was the Hotel Manager's suggestion and we've done it on EVERY cruise ever since......including 2 other Carnival cruises.

Believe me when I say that the rules were made for folks who would let their dogs loose amongst crowds of people.......not those who are thoughtful enough to be very careful of children and adults who have allergies or are fearful of dogs. :)

flsunnymommy
October 13th, 2009, 04:46 PM
Hey Guys! Chewy is getting ready to retire so we have been busy applying for a new service dog. Right now we are planning one last cruise with him. We are going to the Bahamas. I think all we need is this form sent in and a health certificate. Is that correct? http://www.bahamas.com/vacation-planning/pets Any idea how long it takes to get cleared to go? We want to go in December. Thanks!

Quampapetet
October 13th, 2009, 04:53 PM
Why won't Brenda sleep with me?

Strange! I have no idea why she would do that, sorry. I thought most dogs loved sleeping with their owners (usually the one who cares for them - feeds them and all).


Brenda loose in a lounge: It was actually onboard the Celebrity Summit that we learned to use an empty lounge to exercise and play ball with Brenny. It was the Hotel Manager's suggestion and we've done it on EVERY cruise ever since......including 2 other Carnival cruises.

Believe me when I say that the rules were made for folks who would let their dogs loose amongst crowds of people.......not those who are thoughtful enough to be very careful of children and adults who have allergies or are fearful of dogs. :)

Don't get me started on ppl who would be dumb enough to let their dog loose in a crowd.... :rolleyes:

Quampapetet
October 13th, 2009, 04:55 PM
Hey Guys! Chewy is getting ready to retire so we have been busy applying for a new service dog. Right now we are planning one last cruise with him. We are going to the Bahamas. I think all we need is this form sent in and a health certificate. Is that correct? http://www.bahamas.com/vacation-planning/pets Any idea how long it takes to get cleared to go? We want to go in December. Thanks!


http://www.bahamas.com/sites/default/files/pdf/Bahamas_Application_to_Import_Domestic_Animals_in_ TIOTB.pdf is the link to the form itself. Since your link is the same site, it is likely the same one. I just don't have time to check it - dinner is on the table! :)

Oh, and send the form in NOW! It can take a month or two (or longer) to get the permit! You can pay to have it faxed to you if you need it quickly, though. I think it is $10. This year it took a month to get my two (sent them in together, one for December and one for February), which is good for them.

wizard-of-roz
October 13th, 2009, 05:43 PM
Hey Guys! Chewy is getting ready to retire so we have been busy applying for a new service dog. Right now we are planning one last cruise with him. We are going to the Bahamas. I think all we need is this form sent in and a health certificate. Is that correct? http://www.bahamas.com/vacation-planning/pets Any idea how long it takes to get cleared to go? We want to go in December. Thanks!

I hope you got the information you needed from Quam....she's the guru of what to do for Bahama travel.

I'm so curious about the "retiring" thing. How old is Chewy? Tell me how your process is going and how did you know he was ready to retire?

Can you tell...Brenda is now almost 10....she's a "livewire" and loves to go to work with me.....but, I don't want to exhaust her and want her to go into retirement feeling well!

Please tell me more about Chewy's retirement......

She'll be on her 13th cruise in January.......Again, I love taking her, she works, as usual, while onboard.....there's no change in her habits.

wizard-of-roz
October 13th, 2009, 05:45 PM
I must add.....Brenda is a "slow" walker, always has been and, I'm a "fast" walker.......the hardest thing for me to do is slow down my walk for her. You'd think it's because she's getting older....no way....she walked slow when she was 2.

So, that can't be a "tell-tale" sign of her old age. :o

flsunnymommy
October 13th, 2009, 05:52 PM
Thanks for the help!

Chewy is 5 with hip dysplasia. We have tried the non-steroid meds and supplements and they have been no help. We have done the streches and exercises and he is just slowing down more. He can not jump at all and needs help in and out of the car, on the bed, etc. We were hoping the treatments would help, but they are not. He can not keep up with my son and that is a big issue. An autism service dog that can't keep up with their kid, just does not cut it. We have been torn for months on making the decision. The vet is supportive either way and the treatment is getting more aggressive (shots next week) but he says even with treatment he will not be able to work much longer. Right now we have a puppy in the house we are training for a program and are thinking of keeping her (with their permission) or getting a trained one from them. We are on the waiting list no matter what because Ian will fall apart the second Chewy can't work.

wizard-of-roz
October 13th, 2009, 06:09 PM
Thanks for the help!

Chewy is 5 with hip dysplasia. We have tried the non-steroid meds and supplements and they have been no help. We have done the streches and exercises and he is just slowing down more. He can not jump at all and needs help in and out of the car, on the bed, etc. We were hoping the treatments would help, but they are not. He can not keep up with my son and that is a big issue. An autism service dog that can't keep up with their kid, just does not cut it. We have been torn for months on making the decision. The vet is supportive either way and the treatment is getting more aggressive (shots next week) but he says even with treatment he will not be able to work much longer. Right now we have a puppy in the house we are training for a program and are thinking of keeping her (with their permission) or getting a trained one from them. We are on the waiting list no matter what because Ian will fall apart the second Chewy can't work.

Thank you so much for being so candid and sharing Chewy's story. I'm sorry.....I hope his retirement will be long and that he will enjoy every moment of it..........he deserves it!

I know how important it is for your son to have his dog near him. Will Chewy be able to retire in your home?

I hope all goes well for all of you and the training of your new pup.

Enjoy your cruise and tell Chewy he has friends out here rooting for him!!! Tell Ian we wish him the very best, as well! :)

flsunnymommy
October 13th, 2009, 06:12 PM
Thanks for the support, never thought it would be so hard. Chewy will probably go to a local school as a therapy dog (I am hoping Ian's) He loves to work and they do not think he will do well not being a service dog.

wizard-of-roz
October 13th, 2009, 06:26 PM
Brenda and I send our love and licks to ALL of you! :)

Chacooe
October 13th, 2009, 11:58 PM
First: Bon Voyage to all of you who are going to cruise soon or on your cruises......May your skies be blue and your sea be gentle.

Barbara: Have a fantastically wonderful time.....Please come back and tell us all about the cruise and how Valentine did. I love that Valentine is such a frequent cruiser. She and Brenda could go off on their own and know more than most of us!!!!

Kathy: "Missie" is so cute....I'd have a very had time not picking her up and playing with her. You must have a tough time convincing folks to leave her alone!

Quam: When is Carnival going to "get it!" We ALL HATE THE PELLETS....and, they're not necessary or needed. There are better choices, "HELLO"; "just contact some of your sister companies and ASK!"

Second: Our neighbors were laying down artificial turf on their front lawn....I asked if I could have a 5x5 cutting, and I'd be willing to pay for it......they gave it to me.....I'm so excited. It rolls-up very nicely and looks just like the piece I bought from "In The Company of Dogs", for over $140.00.

It's going onboard with us. I'm just going to leave it [it was free]....unless, somehow I can get it hosed off for our last morning disembarkation. Then, I could take it with us on every cruise.......Cleaning it off [just the urine] is the main issue. I'm going to let the ship lay down whatever they'd like...I'll just lay the grass on top of their litter. I'll clean the pooh, but the urine is my concern.

I thought about placing it in the shower and washing it there......what do you think? It dries very quickly....that the amazing part about this stuff.

Geezz! I wish the cruiselines would invest in it. They have someone cleaning the area that we use and filling the box......it would be so much easier and, I think more hygienic, if they'd invest in the artificial stuff. ALL the dogs would love it!!!!

Hi Roz, The ones that I have the biggest problem with wanting to hold her is the kids, most of them think that she is a puppy and not an adult dog. It even surprises me with some adults that will stand there and say that she is a puppy and not a full grown dog. When it comes to people holding her, there are a few that I will let them hold her, like I would with you, but 98% of the time, I have to say "No" even though I know Missie loves to cuddle up to people. She is a smart little dog, she knows when she has her vest on, she is working, and when that vest comes off, it is cuddle and play time with everyone. I think this time I am going to take her to the kennel before I start packing so she does not see the suitcases first, because she would not understand why she is not going with me.

wizard-of-roz
October 14th, 2009, 01:19 PM
Hi Roz, The ones that I have the biggest problem with wanting to hold her is the kids, most of them think that she is a puppy and not an adult dog. It even surprises me with some adults that will stand there and say that she is a puppy and not a full grown dog. When it comes to people holding her, there are a few that I will let them hold her, like I would with you, but 98% of the time, I have to say "No" even though I know Missie loves to cuddle up to people. She is a smart little dog, she knows when she has her vest on, she is working, and when that vest comes off, it is cuddle and play time with everyone. I think this time I am going to take her to the kennel before I start packing so she does not see the suitcases first, because she would not understand why she is not going with me.

I guess I can't change your mind on bringing her.....Brenda would love the company.....If you're truly not....I think the idea of taking her to the kennel before you pack is a great idea.....

I look forward to meeting you. I may be busy with directing Brenda but please don't hesitate to come over and say hello!

Quampapetet
October 14th, 2009, 04:10 PM
Thanks for the help!

Chewy is 5 with hip dysplasia.

That's too bad! But what program placed a dog with hip dysplasia?! That's just inhumane. I hope they realize now how important doing the x-rays for dysplasia is! No amount of treatment is going to allow a dog with dysplasia to be a working dog. I believe I have heard of a surgery, but not sure how successful that is or if a dog is able to work after that - it might just be to make the dog feel better.

flsunnymommy
October 14th, 2009, 04:25 PM
When the dog was xrayed at a year and a half, he had no dysplasia. If you look at his pedigree, there is none. He is just a fluke. They do have funds to help service dogs with hip issues and they say treatment can work. I am still retiring him.

Quampapetet
October 14th, 2009, 04:30 PM
When the dog was xrayed at a year and a half, he had no dysplasia. If you look at his pedigree, there is none. He is just a fluke. They do have funds to help service dogs with hip issues and they say treatment can work. I am still retiring him.

Strange. I have always heard that the dysplasia shows up on the x-rays. Maybe somebody missed something?

Sad, though. I'm sure he'll enjoy being a therapy dog, though! :) I hope you get the new pooch soon!

S.S. Cruisers
October 15th, 2009, 11:02 AM
Mornin' all:
Flsunnymommy: I have tears running down my face as I type this. I am so sorry for Ian, Chewy and your family. It's too bad Ian can't just keep him, but I understand that neither of them would know that they don't "work" together anymore. That would be great if he gets to be a therapy dog at Ian's school. I work with special needs kids and I just can't say enough about what I have learned about how service dogs can nurture them along in ways we couldn't even imaging possible, from this forum. Unfortunately none of the kids have service dogs. I hope everything works out for the best for you guys. Have a great cruise with Chewy.

Nancy

Quampapetet
October 15th, 2009, 02:32 PM
Nancy, have you thought of contacting a local therapy organization/local branch of a national organization in your area to see if they can come in once or twice a week to your classroom? I know there are programs for kids to learn how to read by reading to a dog in addition to traditional therapy dog programs. Delta Society and Therapy Dog International are the two most well-known national organizations. I assume they have a place on their Web sites for ppl to look up their local branches/local trainers that test the dogs.

rangeley
October 15th, 2009, 06:14 PM
Ok stupid question coming....... Do we need just a health certificate or "international" health certificate?

Cindy

wizard-of-roz
October 15th, 2009, 07:21 PM
Ok stupid question coming....... Do we need just a health certificate or "international" health certificate?

Cindy

The Certificate should read as follows:

STATE OF CALIFORNIA
DEPARTMENT OF FOOD AND AGRICULTURE
Animal Health and Food Safety Services
Animal Health Branch

CERTIFICATE FOR INTERSTATE OR INTERNATIONAL MOVEMENT OF
SMALL ANIMALS

This is the form we have used for the past 12 cruises with Brenda and have NEVER been stopped or questioned or denigned entrance by any foreign country.......

S.S. Cruisers
October 15th, 2009, 08:29 PM
Nancy, have you thought of contacting a local therapy organization/local branch of a national organization in your area to see if they can come in once or twice a week to your classroom? I know there are programs for kids to learn how to read by reading to a dog in addition to traditional therapy dog programs. Delta Society and Therapy Dog International are the two most well-known national organizations. I assume they have a place on their Web sites for ppl to look up their local branches/local trainers that test the dogs.
Quam: We live in a little town of about 15,000 people. We are about a hundred miles from anywhere in each direction. We do have a specific "Special Needs" teacher and classroom. She has a SD herself, but Biscuit is not there for the kids. I will go on their websites and see what is available.
Thanks,
Nancy

Quampapetet
October 16th, 2009, 06:36 AM
Ok stupid question coming....... Do we need just a health certificate or "international" health certificate?

Cindy

You're going to the Bahamas, right? You need an int'l one then. It doesn't have to be stamped by the USDA office, though, as only some countries require that (not the Bahamas or the U.S./U.S. territories).

Don't worry, your vet will know/be able to look up all the info. as a USDA-certified vet. :) And, like Roz said, the certificate does say interstate and int'l travel, so they may be one and the same certificate anyway.

Quampapetet
October 16th, 2009, 06:39 AM
Quam: We live in a little town of about 15,000 people. We are about a hundred miles from anywhere in each direction. We do have a specific "Special Needs" teacher and classroom. She has a SD herself, but Biscuit is not there for the kids. I will go on their websites and see what is available.
Thanks,
Nancy

Therapy dogs are just ppl's pets that have been trained well enough to pass a therapy dog certification test, so they are everywhere. You never know, there could be somebody near you who is a transplant or who travelled to another town to get their dog certified - or there could even be a dog trainer in your town who does the testing (many pet dog trainers do this). I hope you find something! :)

Quampapetet
October 16th, 2009, 07:34 AM
BTW, for those going on Carnival: Carnival sells personalized doggy bandannas (and doggy tees)! http://carnival.victorydyo.com and go to where it says "CruiseDOG". They only have two designs, but you might think they are cute - a pirate doggy and a sleeping, dreaming doggy.

You can personalize the three lines of text however you want (size, placement, color, and what words you want). (You don't have to put your dog's name on it - for a service dog, I would recommend not doing it so ppl wouldn't try distracting your dog by calling its name.) At the bottom it has the CruiseDOG and Carnival logos. With shipping it is just over $25 (ouch!), but your doggy will have a cruise souvenir, too! :-)

Quampapetet
October 17th, 2009, 01:25 AM
I think I figured out my on-balcony potty area solution for my upcoming Carnival cruise. (Carnival only offers those horrid paper pellets - if you want anything else, they tell you that you have to bring it yourself.)

I was going to put this in a silicone tray (just like those silicone baking pans, but larger) until I realized it doesn't really need it and the tray would just be another expense and thing to bring on the trip (even though it would roll up). But I figured I'd post that idea in case anybody else wanted to try it.

Since I'm not using the tray, I'll place a cut-open garbage bag on the floor of the balcony to protect it just in case. I will place the super-absorbant doggy piddle pads (the kind with the polymer crystals in it) down. I will place kennel flooring tiles on top of the piddle pads (they are made to be a little off the floor so liquids can drain). And then I will place faux grass (antibacterially treated) on top of that. Voila! Doggy potty spot. It isn't the cheapest solution, but I think it will work best.

The kennel flooring is this/something like this: http://www.dri-dek.com/dog-kennel-flooring.html

So, anyway, I thought I'd share my thoughts on this since we had discussed it very recently.

sunshine426
October 17th, 2009, 10:48 AM
HI Everyone. I haven't posted in a while, but have been keeping up with the thread. It is always so interesting to me to hear the ideas from you guys with service dogs.

I've been working with a now 5 month old puppy on a regular basis, while still working with the other dogs of various ages as well. My pup has been giving me some challenges, and his trainer and I are working thru them. I think he is very smart and will be a fabulous dog for someone one day. He does need to learn to crate better. I had another dog home that also had some crate anxiety and now going thru a tentative phase. Since I only had him one night I couldn't due to much. But we had a pretty good mall outing and a fabulous presentation for girl scout leaders.

For now, all service dogs are back at the farm and only my own best friends(husband and dog) are in the house. It is quiet...got some sleep.
Cleaned carpet today, so that I can bring home more friends in two weeks.

denversees4me
October 17th, 2009, 07:46 PM
Hi All
Denver and I just wanted to stop by and say HI !!!!! We r sailing Disney in less than 2 weeks and are hoping for 24 access to the deck for the litter box without the assistance of a crew member .... we will keep you posted . They lock the deck from 7 pm to 7 am where the box is and you cant get out there without someone coming to unlock the door .... soooooo this cruise im asking it be open .... we will see :-)
how is everyone ? Denver and I are great .... ROZ we were in LA last weekend but no time to hook up so next time which will be in nov or Dec depending on if i have to have surgeru on my ankle/s or not . If i do though I will make it up there 1 more time before then .
How r everyones dogs doing ? I dont have much time to read the threads but i hope everyone and eyerypup is well !
Cari and Denver

rangeley
October 18th, 2009, 08:34 AM
Who brings a life vest for their dog? Besides Roz who I know does.

Cindy

flsunnymommy
October 18th, 2009, 08:46 AM
We take a life jacket for Chewy. He wears it at the muster drill. My son puts Chewy's jacket on and then his own (with help) Works as a great social story to get my son to put his jacket on

giggleykim
October 18th, 2009, 03:09 PM
we bring along a life jacket for the dog. It is 100% like her harnes that she wears, but a bit thicker so she thinks nothing of it when it is on. She wears it only to the muster drill as well. The commets we get are so funny. Just yet another picture another picture oppertunity for her!!

Quampapetet
October 18th, 2009, 05:47 PM
Who brings a life vest for their dog? Besides Roz who I know does.

Cindy


I do. I have a yellow one that is the kind with the extra floatation piece under the dog's head to help keep the head above water.

If you do bring one, remember to carry it on the plane and don't place anything on top of it, as you should never crush a life vest because it can lessen the buoyancy. (Haha, when I flew to the cruise last time, I felt compelled to tell the stewardess that the vest was for the cruise, not because I was worried about the plane, LOL!! :p)

Quampapetet
October 18th, 2009, 05:52 PM
We take a life jacket for Chewy. He wears it at the muster drill. My son puts Chewy's jacket on and then his own (with help) Works as a great social story to get my son to put his jacket on

For safety reasons, you should have your son put Chewy's life jacket on after your son has put his on, especially if your son has Autism so learns a certain routine. If he learns to put the dog's vest on first, in a real emergency that is what he might try to do, but he needs to put his own vest on first in a real emergency and then help the dog.

Now the cruise lines are doing away with having to bring the life vests to muster drill (yippie!), so I won't take my dog's life vest to the muster drill on my upcoming cruise like I did for the other one.

wizard-of-roz
October 19th, 2009, 01:17 PM
I think I figured out my on-balcony potty area solution for my upcoming Carnival cruise. (Carnival only offers those horrid paper pellets - if you want anything else, they tell you that you have to bring it yourself.)

I was going to put this in a silicone tray (just like those silicone baking pans, but larger) until I realized it doesn't really need it and the tray would just be another expense and thing to bring on the trip (even though it would roll up). But I figured I'd post that idea in case anybody else wanted to try it.

Since I'm not using the tray, I'll place a cut-open garbage bag on the floor of the balcony to protect it just in case. I will place the super-absorbant doggy piddle pads (the kind with the polymer crystals in it) down. I will place kennel flooring tiles on top of the piddle pads (they are made to be a little off the floor so liquids can drain). And then I will place faux grass (antibacterially treated) on top of that. Voila! Doggy potty spot. It isn't the cheapest solution, but I think it will work best.

The kennel flooring is this/something like this: http://www.dri-dek.com/dog-kennel-flooring.html

So, anyway, I thought I'd share my thoughts on this since we had discussed it very recently.

Quam: Thanks for sharing the bandana's info. [Brenda wears one everyday, different colors, etc.] It helps a black dog to look more inviting with a color near her face.

Also, thanks for the information on the decking....I'm going to look into it.

Quam, if you have your own balcony, just ask the crew to place the box on it. Use the pellets as your base and place the grass on top of it.

That's what I'm going to do onboard the Splendor, in January.

I found the grass [although, my neighbors gave me a 5x5 piece, without being bacterially treated], while I was picking-up Brenda's food, yesterday, I saw rolls of treated, artificial grass on a shelf, at Kahootz Dog Store, in Chatsworth. I didn't look into the prices but I'm sure we can find it online. They had all different sizes and it was easily rolled-up, for carrying, etc.

I'm so glad to see that it's easy to get, at a pet store. For those of you who have not tried this stuff......It's a pure miracle!

wizard-of-roz
October 19th, 2009, 01:52 PM
For safety reasons, you should have your son put Chewy's life jacket on after your son has put his on, especially if your son has Autism so learns a certain routine. If he learns to put the dog's vest on first, in a real emergency that is what he might try to do, but he needs to put his own vest on first in a real emergency and then help the dog.

Now the cruise lines are doing away with having to bring the life vests to muster drill (yippie!), so I won't take my dog's life vest to the muster drill on my upcoming cruise like I did for the other one.

I think it's a good idea to have Brenda wear her life vest to the muster drill, even if they do away with bringing the one's.....I want the crew and all the passengers who can see her with it on realize what it looks like and how they ALL can assist in rescuing her......God forbid they ever have to!

She'd be the first one rescued in my book!!!!!!

wizard-of-roz
October 19th, 2009, 01:56 PM
Hi All
Denver and I just wanted to stop by and say HI !!!!! We r sailing Disney in less than 2 weeks and are hoping for 24 access to the deck for the litter box without the assistance of a crew member .... we will keep you posted . They lock the deck from 7 pm to 7 am where the box is and you cant get out there without someone coming to unlock the door .... soooooo this cruise im asking it be open .... we will see :-)
how is everyone ? Denver and I are great .... ROZ we were in LA last weekend but no time to hook up so next time which will be in nov or Dec depending on if i have to have surgeru on my ankle/s or not . If i do though I will make it up there 1 more time before then .
How r everyones dogs doing ? I dont have much time to read the threads but i hope everyone and eyerypup is well !
Cari and Denver

Cari, if I don't get a chance to talk to you before you leave....have a wonderful trip and a funfilled cruise.

Please talk to the Hotel Manager and make sure that he/she talks to the crew about leaving the door unlocked for our Denver!!!!!!

Maybe one day we'll cruise together. I'd love it. Take care of yourself and have fun.

Roz & Brenny

Quampapetet
October 19th, 2009, 04:19 PM
Quam: Thanks for sharing the bandana's info. [Brenda wears one everyday, different colors, etc.] It helps a black dog to look more inviting with a color near her face.

Also, thanks for the information on the decking....I'm going to look into it.

No problem. I ended up ordering one of the Carnival bandannas - the blue pirate dog was too cute not to get! :) Instead of her name, I had it say "SERVICE DOG", plus the other two lines had to do with our cruise. I moved the text higher so it wasn't too close with the giant "CruiseDOG" logo on the bottom so the text is easier to read. I'm looking forward to getting it! I hope it is good quality for that price!


Quam, if you have your own balcony, just ask the crew to place the box on it. Use the pellets as your base and place the grass on top of it.

I do have a balcony, but I have no idea what the size of the box will be. When we went on Royal Caribbean, they promised a 4'x4' box but gave us a tiny 2'x2' box that my dog could barely fit in/turn around in! And she walks when she poops (does a little, walks, does a little more), so that tiny box just did not work for her. I'm making her "box" larger than I know the cruise line's box will be so that she will have a good amount of space. We have two sea days, plus may not spend much time on shore in the Bahamas (been there, done that), so I'd much rather her be comfortable by bringing my own sized "box" (sans an actual box, LOL).


That's what I'm going to do onboard the Splendor, in January.

I found the grass [although, my neighbors gave me a 5x5 piece, without being bacterially treated], while I was picking-up Brenda's food, yesterday, I saw rolls of treated, artificial grass on a shelf, at Kahootz Dog Store, in Chatsworth. I didn't look into the prices but I'm sure we can find it online. They had all different sizes and it was easily rolled-up, for carrying, etc.

I've never seen the grass at a pet store before, so that's really cool! I wonder if it is crazy-expensive like that grass in the "In the Company of Dogs" catalog is.

I'm so glad to see that it's easy to get, at a pet store. For those of you who have not tried this stuff......It's a pure miracle!

If only the cruise lines would see it that way!

wizard-of-roz
October 19th, 2009, 04:28 PM
HI Everyone. I haven't posted in a while, but have been keeping up with the thread. It is always so interesting to me to hear the ideas from you guys with service dogs.

I've been working with a now 5 month old puppy on a regular basis, while still working with the other dogs of various ages as well. My pup has been giving me some challenges, and his trainer and I are working thru them. I think he is very smart and will be a fabulous dog for someone one day. He does need to learn to crate better. I had another dog home that also had some crate anxiety and now going thru a tentative phase. Since I only had him one night I couldn't due to much. But we had a pretty good mall outing and a fabulous presentation for girl scout leaders.

For now, all service dogs are back at the farm and only my own best friends(husband and dog) are in the house. It is quiet...got some sleep.
Cleaned carpet today, so that I can bring home more friends in two weeks.

Enjoy your break time.....

I'm glad to hear that all's okay......I swear, my carpet, which is supposed to be tan looks more like a dark brown.....Oh! Not because it's dirty, just because, on a daily basis Brenda sheds so much, there's just no sense in vacumming everyday [something we used to do], I'm getting too old to do that anymore!

wizard-of-roz
October 19th, 2009, 04:52 PM
I have to share this with you guys [who else would understand?]

Morey and I went food shopping, yesterday. Standing outside the Von's market was a man selling something. Brenda had to go potty so I walked by him to go to the grassy area in front of the market. While I'm walking Brenda keeps pulling on the leash and I turn around to see what's wrong.... the man is calling her [I don't mean just making a whistle sound or snapping his fingers as some imbosiles will do] but, actually calling her name.....which totally distracted her from the job at hand!

I then realize that Brenda is wearing her CCI Name Badge, attached to her vest, which gives her name and the service she performs. I hate that badge and have been meaning to remove it from this vest for a long time. It's attached with super glue and I knew it would take some working to get it off but I keep forgetting to do it! She has another vest and I usually use that one when we're out in the public. It doesn't say anything on it except ["Please don't pet me I'm working"]

I turned, corrected Brenda and kept walking towards the grass. When we walked back, to go into the store, I walked quickly without giving the man any eye contact and he started calling her again. I wanted to punch his light out!!!!!! :mad:

Some days, I just want to go about my business without anyone stopping me and asking me questions......I especially don't want ANY BODY distracting my Service Dog, in any way!

Do any of you have your dogs name on anything he/she might wear out in public?

Thanks for letting me share this.........

Quampapetet
October 19th, 2009, 05:27 PM
Do any of you have your dogs name on anything he/she might wear out in public?

Nope, for just that reason that you encountered. It is bad enough that some ppl bark at our dogs or make kissy noises/snap their fingers at them or do drive-by pettings or scream out, "Pupppppyyyyyy!!!!" I do tell ppl her real name when they ask nicely, though; I'm just not one to lie about that like I know some ppl do. Whenever others do something, it is a good time for the "leave it!" command - such a lifesaver!

Does your state have a law where distracting a service dog is a crime? If so, you could always mention it to ppl who keep harrassing your dog like the guy outside the store did to poor Brenda.

wizard-of-roz
October 19th, 2009, 06:06 PM
Nope, for just that reason that you encountered. It is bad enough that some ppl bark at our dogs or make kissy noises/snap their fingers at them or do drive-by pettings or scream out, "Pupppppyyyyyy!!!!" I do tell ppl her real name when they ask nicely, though; I'm just not one to lie about that like I know some ppl do. Whenever others do something, it is a good time for the "leave it!" command - such a lifesaver!

Does your state have a law where distracting a service dog is a crime? If so, you could always mention it to ppl who keep harrassing your dog like the guy outside the store did to poor Brenda.

Quam, yes, we do have a law about abuse and theft of a Service Dog, I'm, not sure how the law relates to distracting one.

And, I am finding myself using the "leave it" command a lot these days. I don't know if it's just me losing my patience with people or it's just people who are more enticed by a Service Dog in their environment.

I know they mean well, it's just a huge task to keep her on task, when people distract her.

I'm doing a demonstration, in a church in our area, on the first of November and I'm going to start my demo. by reminding the kind folks that they should NEVER distract a working dog.

Quampapetet
October 20th, 2009, 11:39 PM
Quam, yes, we do have a law about abuse and theft of a Service Dog, I'm, not sure how the law relates to distracting one.

It might not. Not all states have the same laws, so your state might not have one about interfering with the work of a service dog. I know one lady who used her state's law when a group of teenagers wouldn't stop harrassing her service dog and the cop gave all the teens tickets! Hopefully they learned their lesson from that.


And, I am finding myself using the "leave it" command a lot these days. I don't know if it's just me losing my patience with people or it's just people who are more enticed by a Service Dog in their environment.

Not so much losing your patience as now that you're used to having an SD, you know how bad it is to have her distracted. Absolutely nothing wrong with that (except for the ppl doing the distracting, of course)! Ppl need to know that if they distract a service dog, they could cause the owner to be injured.


I know they mean well, it's just a huge task to keep her on task, when people distract her.

I'm doing a demonstration, in a church in our area, on the first of November and I'm going to start my demo. by reminding the kind folks that they should NEVER distract a working dog.

Yes, please do!!!!! Remind them all the things they should not do, like call to the dog, make kissy sounds to the dog, bark at the dog, pet the dog, feed the dog/offer to treat the dog, talk to/at the dog, scare the dog, etc.

Quampapetet
October 22nd, 2009, 10:30 AM
I was looking for synthetic grass to bring on the cruise as a doggy potty and I came across this site that has several sizes of antimicrobially-treated grass mats that are good for such a use:

2' x 3'

3' x 5'

4' x 6'

They have flow-through backing (not solid backing with little holes punched every 4" like some faux grasses have) for drainage. You can get them with bound edges (so they don't fall apart at the edges I think - they are bound like some rugs are) or pay less for unbound edges. According to the Web site, they are washable, portable, durable, antimicrobial, drainable, and soft.

Custom sizes are available, too.

The parent company is called Forever Lawn, Inc. and they have installers around the country, so you can also inquire with your local installer about this stuff (and also the K9Grass you can install instead of having real grass for a lawn or to put down as flooring in a dog playroom/training center/kennel/daycare, if you'd like).

They are having 10% off until the end of November on these new mats.

Their site is http://www.k9grass.com/grassmats.html .

They aren't the cheapest things, but since they are reusable, you could make them worth the cost. (Especially somebody like Roz who goes on a hundred cruises a year, haha!) You could use them on top of the box the cruise gives you or bring your own box (fill it with sand/dirt/mulch or use potty pads) or put potty pads under it.

I had a good experience talking with my local rep from this company via e-mail, so I figured I would pass on the info. for these grass mats, especially since we have been talking about potty solutions on here.

wizard-of-roz
October 22nd, 2009, 02:20 PM
Quam: Thanks so much for the "grass" information. It may seem simple but it's so important, when traveling on a cruise ship.

I have been busy going back and forth on another thread. On Carnival Cruises there is a thread about "bed bugs", well, all was going as threads do; up and down and all around, until a gal who has a Service Dog, started talking about how the person who was in the cabin before may have had a Service Dog and brought in the bug on its fur.

Don't ask, I went ballistic, to say the least. All we need is someone to start a thread about our Service Dogs bringing in bugs to the cabins.

And, she has a Service Dog and even touts how her SD sleeps in bed with her.

You guys know me.....I wasn't light on her. And, admonished her for even suggesting such a thing to the public......It's been a hard enough struggle to get our dogs on cruise ships and she starts this? :(

sunedaze
October 22nd, 2009, 06:40 PM
Do service dogs get to go into port with you?

wizard-of-roz
October 22nd, 2009, 06:55 PM
Do service dogs get to go into port with you?

Absolutely! We're very careful to watch for any strays that may be in the area. Most foreign ports do not have the leash laws that we have in the U.S. And, of course, there are some places I wouldn't want her to go to. Such as the dog kennels in Alaska or the whale watching boat in Cabo.

We once had an armed guard who walked us through a foreign port, in protection of my dog. It was a bit over the top.

If there were any doubt about the port, the SD could be left in the cabin. Carnival provides a door sign that reads, "Please do not enter, Service Dog Inside." We have NEVER left Brenda on any of our cruises. If she can't go comfortably with us, we don't go! She's part of me and, honestly, I can't imagine my world without her. [That's a whole nother issue.]

On Celebrity the assistant Cruise Director asked if he could watch Brenda, while we went ashore.

People are mostly wonderful and very gracious towards Service Dogs.

Only occasionally do we run into fellow passengers, either on a cruise ship or aiplane, including a crew member, who absolutely want nothing to do with her! We try very hard to stay away from people who don't like dogs or who have allergies.

Quampapetet
October 23rd, 2009, 12:32 AM
Quam: Thanks so much for the "grass" information. It may seem simple but it's so important, when traveling on a cruise ship.

Yeah, our dogs don't need to be crossing their legs all week just waiting to see a speck of land on the horizon!! :D


I have been busy going back and forth on another thread. On Carnival Cruises there is a thread about "bed bugs", well, all was going as threads do; up and down and all around, until a gal who has a Service Dog, started talking about how the person who was in the cabin before may have had a Service Dog and brought in the bug on its fur.

I saw that thread earlier, but either before the service dogs came into it or I didn't read the whole thread (it is ICKY, LOL! Photos of bites and bugs!!). Why on EARTH would she suggest that, though?! I don't know if bed bugs bother furry dogs, since the articles say they only bite uncovered skin (if they're not going to crawl under PJs, I doubt they'd crawl through dog fur/hair), but even if the topic was fleas why would another service dog owner even suggest it was from a service dog?!


Don't ask, I went ballistic, to say the least. All we need is someone to start a thread about our Service Dogs bringing in bugs to the cabins.

Seriously. I would not put it past this message board to have that happen. :mad:


And, she has a Service Dog and even touts how her SD sleeps in bed with her.

You'd think somebody with a service dog would help to refute such an allegation, not be the first to voice it! Nothing wrong with a service dog sleeping in bed with their partner, though (or their partner's husband, for your pup).


You guys know me.....I wasn't light on her. And, admonished her for even suggesting such a thing to the public......It's been a hard enough struggle to get our dogs on cruise ships and she starts this? :(

That is just maddening! I will check out the thread while I am over in that area tonight. Thanks for the heads up, though I'm not sure I want to read what some folks have to say....

rangeley
October 23rd, 2009, 12:03 PM
Roz, We do not have either dogs name on them or their tags. But that doesn't stop people from calling "doggy" or whistling, making kissy noises. Or the ones I love are the ones who wait til John is almost past them and reachs out and touches the dog on the backend and of course he turns and pulls John. We have also had parents tell their kids the dog is working and they cannot touch and then the parent touches the dog!! :eek: We had a lady out in the hall last night, I opened the door and bith dogs walked out and stayed right by the doog. This lady was walking by and stopped. Then she stared at them :confused: When we got out the door, she says "they are staring at me". John says thats because you are staring at them!! DUH!!!! It's like people lose their minds when they see a dog.

As far as our cruise goes, I cannot find out anything about Grand Turk. I have written and called everyone and every number I could find. I told John we will just have to hope the health certificate will do, otherwise we will just have to stay on the boat.

Cindy

wizard-of-roz
October 23rd, 2009, 12:49 PM
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Yeah, our dogs don't need to be crossing their legs all week just waiting to see a speck of land on the horizon!! :D

One of my most favorite answers, when folks ask me, "where does she go to the bathroom?" is, "I make her hold it in for 7 days", immediately followed by the right answer.

I know they're curious and I don't wan them to think I'm just a smart _@_&_*!

wizard-of-roz
October 23rd, 2009, 12:51 PM
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Yeah, our dogs don't need to be crossing their legs all week just waiting to see a speck of land on the horizon!! :D



One of my most favorite answers, when people ask me, "where does she go to the bathroom", is, "I make her hold it in for 7 days!"

I immediately follow-up with the correct answer so they don't think I'm a "smart _ _ _!

wizard-of-roz
October 23rd, 2009, 12:59 PM
Roz, We do not have either dogs name on them or their tags. But that doesn't stop people from calling "doggy" or whistling, making kissy noises. Or the ones I love are the ones who wait til John is almost past them and reachs out and touches the dog on the backend and of course he turns and pulls John. We have also had parents tell their kids the dog is working and they cannot touch and then the parent touches the dog!! :eek: We had a lady out in the hall last night, I opened the door and bith dogs walked out and stayed right by the doog. This lady was walking by and stopped. Then she stared at them :confused: When we got out the door, she says "they are staring at me". John says thats because you are staring at them!! DUH!!!! It's like people lose their minds when they see a dog.

As far as our cruise goes, I cannot find out anything about Grand Turk. I have written and called everyone and every number I could find. I told John we will just have to hope the health certificate will do, otherwise we will just have to stay on the boat.

Cindy

Geeezzzz! Some people! They will never get it! People who literally stand there staring into the dogs eyes are so annoying.

I find myself saying, at least once a week, to people who are afraid of her, when I'm walking through a store, "if you're afraid, please, just walk on by and don't keep staring into her eyes!"

I'm sorry I don't know much about Grand Turk. Did you ask your Vet? But, the worst scenario is that you will have to do the land visit separately, one staying back with Wex.

I'm so excited for you guys. You will have such a good time!

Quampapetet
October 23rd, 2009, 10:55 PM
Roz, We do not have either dogs name on them or their tags. But that doesn't stop people from calling "doggy" or whistling, making kissy noises.

Don't you hate that?!

Or the ones I love are the ones who wait til John is almost past them and reachs out and touches the dog on the backend and of course he turns and pulls John.

You can train the dog not to do that - just have to desensitize him to it. Teach him that even if somebody touches him, he is to keep doing what he was doing and ignore the other ppl. Ppl will notice the training and back off, knowing they're not to do what they did.

We have also had parents tell their kids the dog is working and they cannot touch and then the parent touches the dog!! :eek:

Wow, that's pretty bad! Guess those are the "do as I say, not as I do" parents. :mad: I've never seen that, just seen parents tell their kid not to touch the doggy and even hold their kid back physically when the kid wants to disobey.

We had a lady out in the hall last night, I opened the door and bith dogs walked out and stayed right by the doog. This lady was walking by and stopped. Then she stared at them :confused: When we got out the door, she says "they are staring at me". John says thats because you are staring at them!! DUH!!!! It's like people lose their minds when they see a dog.

LOL!!! :D

As far as our cruise goes, I cannot find out anything about Grand Turk. I have written and called everyone and every number I could find. I told John we will just have to hope the health certificate will do, otherwise we will just have to stay on the boat.

Cindy

I have called the Turks and Caicos Islands' U.S. Office of Tourism (earlier in the year, before I booked my cruise or about the same time I did it [but before I booked Early Saver]) and the lady said just a health certificate was needed.

Quampapetet
October 23rd, 2009, 10:57 PM
One of my most favorite answers, when folks ask me, "where does she go to the bathroom?" is, "I make her hold it in for 7 days", immediately followed by the right answer.

I know they're curious and I don't wan them to think I'm just a smart _@_&_*!

Haha, I'd love to see the panic on their faces after you say the first answer! :p

rangeley
October 24th, 2009, 07:54 AM
Thanks Quam, I called the office of tourism a few times and no one answered.

sunshine426
October 24th, 2009, 08:33 AM
I still think I like the potty stories best and the ideas you guys all have are great. If I lived in a high rise apt I would think of trying some of them out.

I've had a very good friend visiting me this week, and aside from talking, talking, talking....we've been seeing some of the sites in my little town. Last night we did a "ghost tour" which involved a lot of walking around, some rougher terrain and by flashlight. One of the participants was a young man(maybe 30's?) in a wheelchair. He rolled that chair up and down and only needed some help on the steep inclines. I commented to him towards the end of the tour how impressed I was with his wheelchair finesse! He just said thanks, and his friend said most people don't talk to him much. That is so sad. I wanted to tell him to go get a SD, then people woud never stop talking to him.

Took my friend up to see the training facility and gave some attention to some of my pups. Next week, I'll have one of the golden doodle's home for a few days and I am going out on an outing with my foster pup and his trainer to see what the challenges are and what I can do to improve my handeling with the little guy.

S.S. Cruisers
October 24th, 2009, 10:49 AM
Mornin' all:
Roz: Boy did you stir up a hornet's nest on your question as to why 50 year olds would like Carnival! Why would you ask such a "stupid" question, as one polite poster responded! :eek: I had to sit on my hands and not respond because I would have been banned and sent to the corner. What a miserable person they must be. I wanted to ask them why they would even read the thread, and respond on it, more than once if it was so stupid. And, then the obvious point is that they MISSED the point! :p

Ok rant off, on to our furbabies. Jezzy Lou is growing up to be such a big girl. Only one accident in the house in over a week! And that was my fault, I just had to do that little extra chore before I let her out. Yea, I think we are house broken. It has been such nice weather here, she likes to go out and you know, vacuum the area. Picking up bugs, rocks and other treasures. I got her a "lovely" new collar at Dollar Tree. It is pink and has a 3" row of sparklies on top. I don't use the collar for leashes so wasn't concern about the quality. The only thing I use it for is to catch the little bugger, when I can!

Sunshine: Good luck with the little guy. Maybe he just needs some maturing. I am sure everything will work out.

Cindy: Isn't it frustrating when you have no control over something that is very important to you and you just can't get it taken care of? I have two situations on my plate, right now and it is taking a toll on me. I am making myself sick or something I can't control. I know I shouldn't but sometimes we just can't turn off the care button.

Cari and Denver: YOU GUYS ARE GETTING READY TO CRUISE. YEA FOR YOU! WE EXPECT A NEW PICTURE OF OUR HANDSOME GUY! I was yelling so Cari would hear me. I know she is very busy.:D

Everyone have a great weekend. Our weather is so beautiful this time of year, that is why we endure the hot summers.

Nancy

Latitude 20
October 24th, 2009, 11:34 PM
Hi all!

It's been forever since I've posted on this thread but I wanted to drop in because I know many of you followed the sad, sad story of Shogun and Saska and have a soft spot in your hearts for Mr. and Mrs. Shogun.

They're live on the Crown Princess (http://www.boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=1079478) for their final cruise before getting their new puppy! He or she has been born (although, sadly, two puppies from the litter died shortly after birth) and they will take the new furbaby home a few weeks after returning from their cruise.

There is also a SD onboard their cruise. Flo is the "sister" and Seeing Eye Dog of long-time CC poster "Coral's" Mom. To solve the "potty problem," a CC member who lives in Quebec City (their embarkcation port) actually went and bought them some sod for the potty box. At this time of year, sod is pretty hard to come by and he was actually going to take it out of his own yard if necessary. What a very nice thing to do!

Best to all of you and the pups (working and otherwise)!
Kathi

Quampapetet
October 25th, 2009, 12:13 AM
Thanks Quam, I called the office of tourism a few times and no one answered.

No problem. Strange that nobody answered the phone! When I called it was back somewhere around February, March, or April of this year. I have no idea what time of day I called, but it didn't take long for them to answer. I don't recall where I found the number - somewhere on the Web.

Is this for your cruise that's on your ticker, the one happening in a little over two months? If so, you'll be there before I will be. Do report back how everything goes with the ports and your cruise! :)

Quampapetet
October 25th, 2009, 12:22 AM
I got her a "lovely" new collar at Dollar Tree. It is pink and has a 3" row of sparklies on top. I don't use the collar for leashes so wasn't concern about the quality. The only thing I use it for is to catch the little bugger, when I can!

Sounds like she's got some BLING! :D My girl is getting a collar with bling on it, too, for her birthday (shh!). I don't normally buy collars from Petco-type places, but they had a plain pink leather one that I picked up so that I could decorate it myself. I'm an artsy-craftsy person and I have a hot gun that applies pre-glued crystals and similar embellishments. They sell some that are plastic, some that are brass, some that are other things, and then they have the Swarovski Crystals. I have the latter. I made a nautical pattern so she can wear her new collar on the cruise and it also works for summer. I did yellow anchors, white with red life preservers, and blue ocean waves. It'll definitely work for the formal nights on the ship! ;)

Quampapetet
October 25th, 2009, 12:26 AM
There is also a SD onboard their cruise. Flo is the "sister" and Seeing Eye Dog of long-time CC poster "Coral's" Mom. To solve the "potty problem," a CC member who lives in Quebec City (their embarkcation port) actually went and bought them some sod for the potty box. At this time of year, sod is pretty hard to come by and he was actually going to take it out of his own yard if necessary. What a very nice thing to do!

That was very nice of that member! Very cool. :cool:

rangeley
October 25th, 2009, 09:00 AM
Sunshine, John felt the same way as that young man you met. He might have even mentioned it in that tv interview I sent you from CCI. It does make hp people more approachable. Tell that young man about John and how much a service dog has changed his life!

Nancy, It has been frustrating taking this dog on our cruise. But Thats why I come to this site all the time. Everyone is so helpful, I would have never done it without all of you.

I was looking for a nautical prong collar cover but Wex doesn't use his prong anymore. Maybe I will find a cute regular one on vacation. I did get Wex a halloween costume. Omg wait til you see a pic of him in it! I chose a skeleton because he's like 10 feet tall and skinny, figured it would be perfect. I can't wait to see the kids reaction.

Quam, We are going on our cruise in a few months. We just made our final payment and will be ready to go after the hectic holidays. We sent our Bahamas form back a few weeks ago, the other islands (St Thomas, Puerto Rico, Grand Turk) we will just hope the health certificate will do. We have already done this trip before, but I figured it would be an easy one for the first time with the dog. And we won't mind if we can't get off somewhere.

Cindy

S.S. Cruisers
October 25th, 2009, 11:19 AM
Mornin' all:

Quam: We won't tell your girl about the surprise! She will be the best dressed furbaby on that formal night!

Latitude 20: Thank you for the update. I was just thinking about Mr. and Mrs. Shogun. How exciting, being on a cruise and then getting to pick-up a new furbaby. This furbaby will not take the place of Shogun or Saska, but will bring them a life time of new memories.

Cindy: Can't wait to see Sexy Wexy in his skeleton costume! Reno would not have stood still for a costume. He was pretty mellow about mom doing just about anything else, but no clothes for the boy.

Everyone have a great Sunday.

Nancy

Quampapetet
October 26th, 2009, 01:45 AM
Nancy, It has been frustrating taking this dog on our cruise. But Thats why I come to this site all the time. Everyone is so helpful, I would have never done it without all of you.

What has been frustrating about it? Potty stuff? Getting off the ship stuff? Or is the cruiseline being a pain?

I was looking for a nautical prong collar cover but Wex doesn't use his prong anymore. Maybe I will find a cute regular one on vacation. I did get Wex a halloween costume. Omg wait til you see a pic of him in it! I chose a skeleton because he's like 10 feet tall and skinny, figured it would be perfect. I can't wait to see the kids reaction.

I don't use covers on my girl's prong, but I know they make ones that are flat nylon (to make the collar look like a flat collar) - you or your son could decorate one of those (fabric paint or little iron-on patches would work better than sparkly rhinestones for a boy ;)). You could do the same with a regular flat collar (I'd think nylon, hemp, or fabric would work best for fabric paint and iron-on patches) if you're really not going to use the prong anymore. Or, you could just do a bandanna - that could be as easy as finding a nautical scrap of fabric, folding it into a triangle, and tying it on the dog. (You could also make your own collar from fabric if you're good at sewing or don't mind sewing.)

My girl will be an angel for Halloween (when we greet the trick-or-treaters at the door). It is a $2 costume - just a boa halo that floats above her head (there is a thin wire attached to it that is also attached to a scrunchie-type collar on her neck). I found it on clearance sale a couple months ago! :D

Quam, We are going on our cruise in a few months. We just made our final payment and will be ready to go after the hectic holidays. We sent our Bahamas form back a few weeks ago, the other islands (St Thomas, Puerto Rico, Grand Turk) we will just hope the health certificate will do. We have already done this trip before, but I figured it would be an easy one for the first time with the dog. And we won't mind if we can't get off somewhere.

Cindy

You should be getting the Bahamas permit soon, at least if they are still as fast as they were a few months ago. The first year I went to the Bahamas it took them three months! But they have been better since then - this year it took just one month.

St. Thomas and Puerto Rico are part of the U.S.

Grand Turk ... like I said, the lady told me just a health certificate was needed and I did ask, "That's it?" and something else like, "No particular tests?" or, "No import permit?" or something along those lines. She assured me that all was needed was a health certificate. However, after I got off Cruise Critic last night, I went to research Grand Turk even though I am pretty certain I'll do just the beach there. This time I came across a part of the tourism site I'd never seen before that lists requirements for Grand Turk that are vastly different from what the tourism office told me! I have an e-mail into the address on the forms the site had and am hoping they will respond within a business day or two. (It is a confusing situation, so e-mail works better than trying to explain it over the phone.)

Basically, my issues with their requirements are the dog has had to be in the export country for six months prior to entry (I have the other cruise ports as well as another int'l trip in the way of fulfilling that requirement), a rabies titer test has to be done although there is no six-month wait like with Hawaii/England/Grand Cayman/etc. (that's an expensive blood draw at my vet's - the other year they told me $130+ and that's before the testing fee, though IAADP members get 1/2 price on that plus moved to the front of the line), the Lyme vaccine (the side-effects can be bad - worse than Lyme itself), and the whopping $50 import permit fee (for a few hours on an island?!). (So ya know, other requirements are the usual core vaccines plus the Leptospirosis vaccine [which is also needed for the Bahamas], treatment for external and internal buggies within fourteen days of your trip [flea-only meds as well as flea/tick collars and such do not count], negative heartworm test, dog must appear healthy, etc.)

So, I have an e-mail into the ppl these forms are from asking if service dogs coming on cruise ships to be in the country for less than half the day have different requirements. I will let you know what they say when I hear back. (If I don't hear by Wednesday or so, I will call to ask if they got my e-mail.)

So, that's a head's up for ya. If you're thinking of doing an excursion on Grand Turk, you may want to wait to book it or make sure you can get a full refund, just in case. I'm a bit miffed if that lady turns out to be that wrong about the requirements!! I was looking forward to the beach on Grand Turk. And maybe some shopping.

Quampapetet
October 26th, 2009, 01:49 AM
Quam: We won't tell your girl about the surprise! She will be the best dressed furbaby on that formal night!

Thanks! :D I should take a photo of the collar and post it. I'll do that if I remember to get around to it....

Last cruise on the formal nights I put these cute hair clips in her hair that had fuzzy boa stuff and skinny feather things sticking up. The first formal night was the black and white one, but it blended too well with her coloring and nobody noticed it. The second formal night was the pink and yellow one - that one stuck out (I should hope so! :p) and ppl loved it. I also sprayed that doggy sparkle spray that PetEdge sells, but even I couldn't tell she had it on and I knew it was there! So much for that stuff.

Quampapetet
October 26th, 2009, 05:52 AM
(So ya know, other requirements are the usual core vaccines plus the Leptospirosis vaccine [which is also needed for the Bahamas], treatment for external and internal buggies within fourteen days of your trip [flea-only meds as well as flea/tick collars and such do not count], negative heartworm test, dog must appear healthy, etc.)

I forgot to mention the dog must have a microchip or tattoo and the dog must be spayed/neutered. Plus, the health certificate has to be a certified USDA one. And the rabies titer thing - there's no six-month wait, but the dog is only eligible the twelve months after the latest rabies vaccine (of which there must have been at least two in the dog's history).

They like to make you jump through hoops. :( I am guessing we will be on the ship at Grand Turk *sigh*. At least I have a nice balcony to use, but I'd rather feel sand under my toes.

rangeley
October 26th, 2009, 08:42 AM
Quam, Now my head is spinning! But I'm not going to worry about it. We only plan on hanging out at the margaritaville pool there. We will just stay on the ship if it's too much of a hassle. The ship has been no problem at all. We just filled out their form and that was it. Finding out what we need to get him on the islands have been the trouble. There really is not much info out there. As far as the collar goes, I'm not crafty at all!!! I could never make something up myself.

Nancy, Wexy will sit and let you do anything to him. Yesterday we went out and tried to take a Christmas picture. We wanted a pic of them together. Wex had a santa beard and hat on. Bailee had the reindeen antlers on. She does not like to pose for a pic. She is terrified of the camera. After getting totally frustrated and John and I yelling at her and eachother, we decided to take seperate pics. We ordered our cards and heres the pics we picked. We were happy to get anything.

Cindy

flsunnymommy
October 26th, 2009, 08:46 AM
Nancy, Wexy will sit and let you do anything to him. Yesterday we went out and tried to take a Christmas picture. We wanted a pic of them together. Wex had a santa beard and hat on. Bailee had the reindeen antlers on. She does not like to pose for a pic. She is terrified of the camera. After getting totally frustrated and John and I yelling at her and eachother, we decided to take seperate pics. We ordered our cards and heres the pics we picked. We were happy to get anything.

Cindy

Great pics. Wex looks fantastic. Bailee looks a little annoyed :cool: I am sure they will make great cards.

rangeley
October 26th, 2009, 08:51 AM
Quam, Please let me know what you find out about Grand Turk.

Flsunnymommy, I call Bailee "the angry reindeer".

Cindy

wizard-of-roz
October 26th, 2009, 01:53 PM
I still think I like the potty stories best and the ideas you guys all have are great. If I lived in a high rise apt I would think of trying some of them out.

I've had a very good friend visiting me this week, and aside from talking, talking, talking....we've been seeing some of the sites in my little town. Last night we did a "ghost tour" which involved a lot of walking around, some rougher terrain and by flashlight. One of the participants was a young man(maybe 30's?) in a wheelchair. He rolled that chair up and down and only needed some help on the steep inclines. I commented to him towards the end of the tour how impressed I was with his wheelchair finesse! He just said thanks, and his friend said most people don't talk to him much. That is so sad. I wanted to tell him to go get a SD, then people woud never stop talking to him.

Took my friend up to see the training facility and gave some attention to some of my pups. Next week, I'll have one of the golden doodle's home for a few days and I am going out on an outing with my foster pup and his trainer to see what the challenges are and what I can do to improve my handeling with the little guy.

It never ceases to amaze me how the public can look at people in wheelchairs [or, do anything they can to avoid looking at them], and in their avoidance be hurtful. People in wheelchairs are "people", nothing more and nothing less!

Actually, I have seen them do things in those chairs that are so thrilling.....it should be an Olympic sport.

And, we do live in a "high rise"! The potty box is a "huge" thing for us, our friends and family. Our patio [which is very big] has Brenda's potty box as the "main attraction." Friends and family just can't believe that this huge dog is willing to climb up on her 4x5 artificial turf [lawn] and do small circles, and, go potty.

She has never missed or ever had an accident.....I better start knocking on wood!

sunshine426
October 26th, 2009, 05:26 PM
As a nurse and a pediatric one at that, I am used to working with people of all ages and disabilites of all natures. Yet, until I started working with service dogs, I didn't comprehend some of the challenges, both physical and emotional. I do think working with these fabulous four legged friends has made me a better nurse and a better person. Plus, I have fun and get warm puppy snuggles. (OK and sometimes crate barking, poopy clean up, stubborn dogs....)

Speaking of stubborn dogs, I worked with my pup and his trainer today. Talk abt interesting. I am going on an outing with two trainers, two dogs and myself. Yikes, a year ago, I think I would have been stressing out. Now I have gotten to know these two wonderful young people and so I was more interested in what I needed to do to correct my behaviour. So with a few guidelines our outing went well, and I think I will have my little boy home for a few more days next week. We really need to work on the crate barking.

I have a beautiful golden doodle at my feet. OMG he is so handsome, and so well behaved in public. And he is not even a year yet, I can only imagine where he will go someday.

wizard-of-roz
October 26th, 2009, 05:45 PM
As a nurse and a pediatric one at that, I am used to working with people of all ages and disabilites of all natures. Yet, until I started working with service dogs, I didn't comprehend some of the challenges, both physical and emotional. I do think working with these fabulous four legged friends has made me a better nurse and a better person. Plus, I have fun and get warm puppy snuggles. (OK and sometimes crate barking, poopy clean up, stubborn dogs....)

Speaking of stubborn dogs, I worked with my pup and his trainer today. Talk abt interesting. I am going on an outing with two trainers, two dogs and myself. Yikes, a year ago, I think I would have been stressing out. Now I have gotten to know these two wonderful young people and so I was more interested in what I needed to do to correct my behaviour. So with a few guidelines our outing went well, and I think I will have my little boy home for a few more days next week. We really need to work on the crate barking.

I have a beautiful golden doodle at my feet. OMG he is so handsome, and so well behaved in public. And he is not even a year yet, I can only imagine where he will go someday.

Oh! Great! I thought I just admired you because of the work you do for potential Service Dogs......How do you find the time? You are a "Super Hero!" Again, thank you so much! Your saving people and dogs.....what more can you do?

I hope that your "crate barker" stops......it can turn into a "marked" behavior and I've seen so many great dogs that don't graduate because of it! Isn't that weird. They're so good in every other aspect of their training but they can't do the "alone" thing or the "crate" thing. I, personally, think it's one-in-the-same......if you're in the room is he better at crating or is it only when he's left alone?
Good luck with him.

And, that Golden Doodle makes me nuts. I love them. Does he have the Poodle hair? What an ideal Service Dog. A great worker with a Golden brain and Poddle hair.....my ideal dog!

S.S. Cruisers
October 26th, 2009, 08:37 PM
Cindy: What cute pictures. Bailee does have that "air" about her! I saw a license plate bracket the other day (That I might have to get myself) but it said "Move over Princess, the Queen is here"! I got a chuckle out of it.

Sunshine: Your Golden Doodle sounds adorable. Pictures if possible. I just love the Standard Poodles. That hair is just too much!

Quam: Your girl sounds like she has the fashions under control! I hadn't even thought of clips. Reno would not have been pleased, nor would Papa if I put clips in his hair, but now Jezzy Lou, that's another story.

Everyone have a great evening.
Nancy