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Sea Island Lady
August 2nd, 2007, 02:45 PM
I was doing some research and came upon the following web page insert, that involves cruiseline lawsuits. This one lawyer (I bleeped his name) has represented three people that have had "slipping" injuries.

So, I started wondering how many of you would sue the cruiselines if you had sustained an injury while on a ship.

No judgements passed...just curious!;)


5. CRUISE LINE PASSENGER INJURIES
The Port of Miami is the largest cruise line port in the world. Hundreds of thousands of passengers per year leave our harbor and return home from cruises to the Carribean and to Central and South America. Vacationers from all over America and from many other countries board cruise ships in Miami, as well as in Ft. Lauderdale, Port Canaveral, and Key West, which are also among the region’s most significant cruise line facilities. The history of this industry has proven that catastrophic injuries and deaths have been caused aboard ship by the negligence of the ship’s personnel and by unseaworthy conditions. The maritime laws of the United States and of the State of Florida afford victims a means of obtaining compensation for their losses. Cases brought in the courts of Florida by claimants are an important means of holding the cruise lines accountable and serve to correct unsafe practices which if left uncorrected would cause further harm to others. Slippery decks, noxious fumes, spoiled food, misconduct by ship’s personnel, and inadequate medical care are just some of the causes of harm to passengers which we see. If you or your family has been the unfortunate victim of harm caused by a cruise line, let us help you through the maze of maritime litigation.
SETTLEMENT: Cruise Line Passenger Slip And Fall. In the M case, xxxxxx (http://www.sheftalltorres.com/bio-sheftall.jsp) secured a confidential settlement of $140,000 from the cruise line defendant after proving that his client from New York had slipped and fallen on an unseen slippery condition on a tiled floor in a dining area adjacent to an outer deck. The evidence established that sea spray and humid outside air flowed from the outside solarium into the interior dining room through automated sliding doors and then condensed on the tile floor of the dining area, which was chilled by air conditioning. In her fall, the Plaintiff had sustained a hip injury.
SETTLEMENT: Cruise Line Passenger Slip And Fall. In the H case, the New Jersey Plaintiff had slipped and fallen on ice shavings left on an outside deck where the cruise line had staged an ice carving as an entertainment event for the passengers. The ship’s personnel invited the Plaintiff up from the audience to have her photograph taken next to the finished ice sculpture. She slipped and fell injuring her hand as she was walking up to the spot from which her photograph was to be taken. xxxxxx (http://www.sheftalltorres.com/bio-sheftall.jsp) negotiated a confidential settlement of $70,000 with the defendant cruise line.
SETTLEMENT: Cruise Line Passenger Slip And Fall. In S, a confidential settlement of $75,000 was obtained for a client from Missouri who injured her wrist in a slip and fall during a cruise in the Gulf of Mexico. xxxxxx (http://www.sheftalltorres.com/bio-sheftall.jsp) established that the ship had created a slippery and dangerous condition in a dining area and that its on-board medical doctor failed to properly diagnose and treat the wrist fracture for the duration of the cruise. The delay in treatment necessitated corrective surgery once the Plaintiff was able to return to her home town.

TRadle
August 2nd, 2007, 03:06 PM
Those are not very large settlements. Could it be that these individuals just recouped medical expenses? If someone falls on my property wouldn’t I have to pay for their medical care?

Would I try and profit off a fall on a slippery floor if there was no negligence? No. Would I expect my onboard medical treatment to be covered? Yes.

PrettyLA
August 2nd, 2007, 03:12 PM
If the medical needs were not paid for I would. Would I sue if I got a bruise? No.

sea-cruise
August 2nd, 2007, 03:13 PM
A flourescent light fixture fell from the ceiling of a supermarket, hit me in the head, and knocked me down. They paid for my stitches. I never sued.
I slipped and fell on a wet floor at the entrance to a store, and received stitches, and again, I never sued.
(I must be crazy, but I don't like courtrooms). :confused:
These things happened when I was age 25 and then about age 50. I'm just happy that the injuries weren't worse. :) My answer to the OP is that I probably wouldn't sue because it would be too much aggravation.

LadyZolt
August 2nd, 2007, 03:15 PM
I agree with TRadle. If I slipped due to my own inattention, that would be entirely different. If I slipped because someone was negligent and didn't hurt anything, I would just move on. But if I slipped because someone was negligent and got hurt, I would certainly expect my medical expenses to be paid by the negligent party. In all the cases the OP cited, those were conditions that the cruise ship should have been aware of and should have taken care of. And the doctor, of course, should have properly diagnosed a fracture. If he/she wasn't sure, it wouldn't hurt to set it as if it were fractured and have the person follow-up when she got home. Always err on the side of caution.

-LadyZolt

KKeeganS
August 2nd, 2007, 03:15 PM
I wouldn't if my medical bills were covered. If I slipped and somehow injured myself in a way that prevented me from being able to work and pay my bills, and the cruise line was somehow negligent, maybe I would. Hopefully it will never be an issue. I certainly would never sue for a minor injury just to try to "cash in".

wolfganghowell
August 2nd, 2007, 03:16 PM
Upon leaving the casino in the wee hours, I went to the elevator. No sign up - probably because it was after 2 am. I slid on the flooring right in front and went down. No harm done, not hurt. No, I wasn't drunk :). Usually signs are very well marked but the simple fact is that you are on a ship at sea and there could be wet areas anywhere any time. Always a good idea to tread carefully. Our society has become way too litigious. I think you'd have to prove negligence and sure there was no sign but the floor was so shiny I could have used my brain before my foot.

I can see where the third plaintiff might have a claim but not the first two. An outside deck and the ice sculpting seem to be no brainers to me.

Sea Island Lady
August 2nd, 2007, 03:22 PM
Those were pretty large medical bills to me! The last time I had an x-ray and a cast, it didn't cost $150,000! I don't know...maybe some of the injuries (like the hip) did require a bit of surgery expense. Even so, if a person has medical or travel insurance (which they should), why sue for those expenses? We wouldn't!
Those are not very large settlements. Could it be that these individuals just recouped medical expenses? If someone falls on my property wouldn’t I have to pay for their medical care?

alcheme
August 2nd, 2007, 03:26 PM
Even so, if a person has medical or travel insurance (which they should), why sue for those expenses? We wouldn't!

It's also possible that some of these lawsuits are filed by the insurance carrier of the injured party, if they feel the cruise line should be responsible for the medical bills.

dc-snoopy
August 2nd, 2007, 03:27 PM
I'm with the masses that provided any medical care was not out-of-pocket for me, I would not sue. So, if the infirmary took care of me at no cost, then no I wouldn't. If it cost me any out-of-pocket money and the cruise line wasn't willing to waive or compensate, then yes, I would sue for the amount of the expenses but not for profit.

Sea Island Lady
August 2nd, 2007, 03:29 PM
It's also possible that some of these lawsuits are filed by the insurance carrier of the injured party, if they feel the cruise line should be responsible for the medical bills.
Hmmmmmm!!!!! :eek:

I just think it is a no brainer - when you are on a ship - that there is going to be water in lot's of places. I have caught myself slipping several times around the decks and my poor 80 year old father slipped on the pool deck once. He just got up and kept going! :D

here's one that even I would be upset about! :( http://www.lipcon.com/news_article9.shtml

TRadle
August 2nd, 2007, 03:32 PM
It's also possible that some of these lawsuits are filed by the insurance carrier of the injured party, if they feel the cruise line should be responsible for the medical bills.


I was on a jury for a case like this.

Sue L
August 2nd, 2007, 03:38 PM
Those were pretty large medical bills to me! The last time I had an x-ray and a cast, it didn't cost $150,000! I don't know...maybe some of the injuries (like the hip) did require a bit of surgery expense. Even so, if a person has medical or travel insurance (which they should), why sue for those expenses? We wouldn't!



Never underestimate the fleecing by the medical industry to the average Joe. Hubby was in the hospital for cancer surgery to remove lymph nodes. He was in the hospital for 1 week and the bill was 287,000$. His pills were 200$ each and he had to take 2 a day for 5 days. An injury if surgery was required can easily go up into the 6 figures.


I would not sue but I would expect the cruiseline if negligent to pick up any and all bills not covered by my insurance and I would make sure I had a copy of the report the cruiselines are required to fill out in case of an injury before disembarking.

xpcdoojk
August 2nd, 2007, 03:38 PM
Those are not very large settlements. Could it be that these individuals just recouped medical expenses? If someone falls on my property wouldn’t I have to pay for their medical care?

Would I try and profit off a fall on a slippery floor if there was no negligence? No. Would I expect my onboard medical treatment to be covered? Yes.

Good post.

jc

jgsi
August 2nd, 2007, 04:03 PM
My MIL was injured about 3 years ago on Enchanment. She was stepping into one of the elevators and the elevator door closed on her foot. Her achilles tendon tore completely. The ship's physician treated her very well and set up an appointment with an orthopedic dr. in Grand Cayman which was the next port. They wanted her to fly home, but because she is deathly afraid of flying, she refused and spent the rest of the trip with a below the knee cast and in a wheelchair. She had surgery when she got home to repair the tendon, another 2 months in a cast and 2 months of physical therapy after the cast was removed. She still walks with a limp. All she wanted from RCCL was for them to cover the hospital bills not covered by insurance. RCCL blamed the elevator company for the injury and refused to pay. It took almost a year of going back and forth between RCCL and the elevator company to settle. Did she make a fortune from her suit? No, when all was said and done, she still had a few hundred dollars worth of medical bills that were not taken care of. It is very difficult to sue a cruise line, even if you have a valid case.

Sea Island Lady
August 2nd, 2007, 04:20 PM
My MIL was injured about 3 years ago on Enchanment. She was stepping into one of the elevators and the elevator door closed on her foot. Her achilles tendon tore completely. The ship's physician treated her very well and set up an appointment with an orthopedic dr. in Grand Cayman which was the next port. They wanted her to fly home, but because she is deathly afraid of flying, she refused and spent the rest of the trip with a below the knee cast and in a wheelchair. She had surgery when she got home to repair the tendon, another 2 months in a cast and 2 months of physical therapy after the cast was removed. She still walks with a limp. All she wanted from RCCL was for them to cover the hospital bills not covered by insurance. RCCL blamed the elevator company for the injury and refused to pay. It took almost a year of going back and forth between RCCL and the elevator company to settle. Did she make a fortune from her suit? No, when all was said and done, she still had a few hundred dollars worth of medical bills that were not taken care of. It is very difficult to sue a cruise line, even if you have a valid case.
I am cringing just thinking about the pain she must have had. Like a shopping cart hitting your heel! :(

jgsi
August 2nd, 2007, 04:46 PM
Sea Island Lady, it was a painful injury. She was given pain medication from the ship's dr. and then from the ortho in Grand Cayman. Once she was in the cast, the pain subsided to a tolerable level. This happened on day #2 of a 7 day cruise so she had a long way to go until we were back home. I give her a lot of credit for being such a trooper about it. Again, she had absolutely no issues with the treatment she received while on the ship. The medical staff was wonderful. All she wanted was to have the bills covered.

CruisinRoxy
August 2nd, 2007, 04:49 PM
I think you have to have a lawsuit frame of mind. When I do something harmful to myself I usually just blame myself for being unconscious or careless or just plain clumsy.
4 years ago I was in Disney on one of their transportation buses. I was sitting but stood up to fetch my bag which had slipped away from me. Just at that moment the bus slammed on the brakes to avoid hitting a car turning in front of the bus. Needless to say I was sent flying up the aisle, up against a hard plastic seat, hitting my head, shoulder and hip. I was eggplant purple for days, with a wholloping headache:eek: . But I was upset, embarassed and in pain so a lawsuit was not even in my mind. Had I thought about it, I could have been going to disney every year for the rest of my life! Again, I think you are either a suer or not a suer.

alcheme
August 2nd, 2007, 04:59 PM
I was upset, embarassed and in pain so a lawsuit was not even in my mind. Had I thought about it, I could have been going to disney every year for the rest of my life! Again, I think you are either a suer or not a suer.

But did you have tens of thousands of dollars worth of out-of-pocket expenses from this incident? If so, you might have considered suing to help pay for the medical bills. I don't think everyone who files a lawsuit is just out to turn an accident into a windfall. There are a lot of valid lawsuits out there; it's just the frivolous ones that tend to make the news stories.

CruisinRoxy
August 2nd, 2007, 05:04 PM
You are absolutely right. A valid lawsuit is just that and a frivolous one usually makes the news. No, I did not have any expenses, just injured pride and bruises.

skandls
August 2nd, 2007, 05:21 PM
I fell on a river boat in 2005. The main stairs to the upper deck were closed and we were told to use the back stairs. It was 10 am - I was totally sober - the wooden stairs with metal rim were wet. The front stairs had skid strips the back ones did not. I was holding the rail going down the stairs when my foot slipped. As I grabbed the rail tighter I spun around and landed my knee directly on the edge of the step.

I saw doctors at our next two stops in Germany. We flew home early - thanks to having travel insurance.

I saw a 'knee' doctor when we got home. He suggested exercise and to wait to see if it would heal itself. I ended up with surgery and still have problems with my knee. Unfortunately I did not find out I had permanent injuries from the accident until after a year had past. If I had known the injury could not be totally fixed I would have sued. But as I said I was past the contractual limits.

PantherFan
August 2nd, 2007, 05:21 PM
It would depend on the injury and how the cruise line/hotel/restaurant ....handled the situation.

On the Freedom last year at Christmas, an older lady fell down the flight of stairs that lead to the theatre right infront of us. (Those clear type stairs that didn't have carpet)

The reason was that the poinsettias were placed on the stairs near the railings making it hard to hold onto the railings and she tripped over one of those plants. She cut her forehead and twisted her ankle (When some people fall down stairs they get seriously hurt--she was lucky so to speak)......who's fault was the accident?

RCL should not be putting anything on the stairs like that. I doubt that she sued nor would I but, I would expect free medical treatment from the ship.

dc-snoopy
August 2nd, 2007, 05:27 PM
4 years ago I was in Disney on one of their transportation buses. I was sitting but stood up to fetch my bag which had slipped away from me. Just at that moment the bus slammed on the brakes to avoid hitting a car turning in front of the bus. Needless to say I was sent flying up the aisle, up against a hard plastic seat, hitting my head, shoulder and hip. I was eggplant purple for days, with a wholloping headache:eek: . But I was upset, embarassed and in pain so a lawsuit was not even in my mind. Had I thought about it, I could have been going to disney every year for the rest of my life! Again, I think you are either a suer or not a suer.

But as reported, this does not seem to be Disney's negligence. In this case, you violated safety rules which specifically state that you will not stand up or attempt to walk on a moving bus. This was not negligence by Disney, but an accident. Your standing up removes them from responsibility. A court is unlikely to award you damages or reparations in these circumstances.

Had you been properly sitting down and the same thing happened, you are more likely to have a case for damages.

firefly333
August 2nd, 2007, 05:41 PM
I think Ill pass on voting, hard question and until it happens to you and how they treat you, who knows. I was on a cruise and the bathroom light burned out and a passenger slipped somehow in the dark bathroom and broke his foot. ouch!!! He broke it on the first night. He was saying he thought they should have paid for the xrays and doctor since the light was burnt out and he might sue if they didnt pick up the medical expenses they charged him. He didnt have insurance evidently.

Sea Island Lady
August 2nd, 2007, 06:08 PM
I think you have to have a lawsuit frame of mind. When I do something harmful to myself I usually just blame myself for being unconscious or careless or just plain clumsy.
4 years ago I was in Disney on one of their transportation buses. I was sitting but stood up to fetch my bag which had slipped away from me. Just at that moment the bus slammed on the brakes to avoid hitting a car turning in front of the bus. Needless to say I was sent flying up the aisle, up against a hard plastic seat, hitting my head, shoulder and hip. I was eggplant purple for days, with a wholloping headache:eek: . But I was upset, embarassed and in pain so a lawsuit was not even in my mind. Had I thought about it, I could have been going to disney every year for the rest of my life! Again, I think you are either a suer or not a suer.
Sounds like something I would do! I would have been so mortified - to be laying across the floor of the bus - that I would have done anything to forget the incident. :D

Even if you had been sitting, the possibility that you could have flown out of your seat was still there because there are no seat-belts. I remember having a hard time staying in my seat when I was on those Disney buses.

cruisingator2
August 2nd, 2007, 06:12 PM
Those are not very large settlements. Could it be that these individuals just recouped medical expenses? If someone falls on my property wouldn’t I have to pay for their medical care?

Would I try and profit off a fall on a slippery floor if there was no negligence? No. Would I expect my onboard medical treatment to be covered? Yes.

This is my feeling also.

pcur
August 2nd, 2007, 06:14 PM
I DID injure myself by slipping and falling on a cruise ship's deck. It was Costa, and the decks were hardwood.

It didn't even dawn on me to sue: it was my fault for not being more careful, and my sandals weren't good for the slippery deck.

I had a sprained ankle. We packed it in ice, got an ace bandage from the doc, and off we went after a day of resting up.

newmexicoNita
August 2nd, 2007, 06:18 PM
Large settlement or not, sueing has gotten so out of hand. Would I sue? I did vote maybe but I can't imagine a situation where I would. There are rare times when I think law suits are completely justified. I can think of a few times we could have if we wanted to, but accidents do happen.

I could see sueing more for racial, health, or age discrimination if the facts are clear beyond a doubt. An injury and I don't mean the drunk driver that hits someone (that's different) I mean a slipping and falling or running into a chair that could have been pushed in. those are the types of law suits that just blow my mind.

Nita

happysinglemom
August 2nd, 2007, 06:31 PM
Years ago I slipped on a dollop of grease on a floor in a restaurant and went down hard on my ankle. I heard the *snap* loud and clear. Amazingly I had to threaten to call a lawyer to get my medical bills paid (I was out of town at the time and my insurance was not great), but eventually, they reimbursed me. They did not pay for anything else, though I had lost work time and even had to borrow my parents car to drive (I had a stick and could not drive mine). Could I have sued? Sure, but I'm just not the "suer" type. Now if they had refused to pay, then yeah I'd would have called a lawyer. It's not something I would want to do though...just not me.

Mark_K
August 2nd, 2007, 06:41 PM
Stating the dollar amounts of confidential settlements - doesn't sound ike a lawyer, I'd want representing me or one I would believe in regards to the amounts.

polodad
August 2nd, 2007, 06:58 PM
On our last cruise in May just coming off AOS we stayed at a 5 star hotel in San Juan, El Convento. The future Mrs. Polo was exiting the pool & slipped on the wet ceramic tile & broke a toe. We "settled" for early for early boarding on our American flights the next day.

On that cruise we met a guy who had a huge bandage on his finger. apparently he was entering his inlaws cabin and they had the balcony door open. A freak gust of wind came in, blew the closet door, caught his finger and he took 3 or more stiches from the ships doctor. It was first day of the cruise and knocked him out of all water activities and severely effected his blackjack game in the casino!

dachshunddoglover
August 2nd, 2007, 07:04 PM
I think our society has gotten way too "sue crazy" but there are some ligitimate cases. The problem with real cases is - Does the victim have enough money to afford the litigation against the giant cruise industry? Just recently on this board was a story about a young girl with abdominal pain on a trip that was mis-diagnosed by the ships doctor. The family flew home early and she indeed had a ruptured appendix and somehow (I don't know the exact story) was rendered unable to have children in the future because of the misdiagnosis and time it took to get to surgery. The family has been in litigation with Carnival for 10 years with it finally going to the State Supreme court. I'm sure that family has paid $20,000 - 40,000. minimum in legal fee's. It's a tricky question. I would not sue unless it was gross negligence where an injury occured and the cruise line did not take care of the medical exspenses. Sometimes I think justice is only for the victims who can afford a good attorney. E-Beth

On a positive note -
Recently our son had a horrible experience at a major hospital. I won't go into the details. He was in the hospital 8 days with a bill over $40,000. I wrote them a long letter about all the problems experienced and begged them to do "The Right Thing!!". Guess what - they wrote me a letter and actually said they were sorry and took what insurance paid as full payment. I got down on my knees and thanked God above for what happened. I never would have believed it, but there are large companies that can and will do "the right thing". Thank you Scottish Rite Hospital.

CruisinRoxy
August 2nd, 2007, 10:02 PM
But as reported, this does not seem to be Disney's negligence. In this case, you violated safety rules which specifically state that you will not stand up or attempt to walk on a moving bus. This was not negligence by Disney, but an accident. Your standing up removes them from responsibility. A court is unlikely to award you damages or reparations in these circumstances.

Had you been properly sitting down and the same thing happened, you are more likely to have a case for damages.
Yes, exactly, and that's why I would never have sued because I knew it was my own darn fault! ( but I could have tried)

CruisinRoxy
August 2nd, 2007, 10:05 PM
Sounds like something I would do! I would have been so mortified - to be laying across the floor of the bus - that I would have done anything to forget the incident. :D

Even if you had been sitting, the possibility that you could have flown out of your seat was still there because there are no seat-belts. I remember having a hard time staying in my seat when I was on those Disney buses.
Thanks! Now I don't feel so bad for doing something stupid and yes, there are no seat belts - I forgot about that small detail.

crock921
August 2nd, 2007, 10:07 PM
i fall down all the time. I blame no one but myself.

can I sue God if I slip on ice?

Whistlespitter
August 2nd, 2007, 10:17 PM
My wife ad I were on an Alaska cruise on the Saphire Princess. We had spent the morning in Skagway, visiting the shops in town. We returned to the ship for lunch. There had been just a touch of rain while we were ashore. We decided to go to the buffet, which was on the same deck as the pool. As we walked by the pool, just turning the corner in front of the pool bar, she slipped on the wet surface and twisted her knee and fell. (I had noticed many times how slick the floor is around the pool area and wondered why they didn't have a non-skid surface.) The people working around the pool were quick to help and showed great concern. One of them quickly, placed a wet floor sign right by her! The medical team arrived and the first thing the nurse did was advise us that we would have to pay for any services or treatments they provided. I don't remember if we agreed to pay but we at least acknowledged the statement. My wife already had arthritic knees and the ligament strain from the fall pretty much ruined the rest of our cruise. She spent the rest of the trip in a wheel chair. The trip home was hell as the Seattle Airport is not a good place to be when you had to push a wheelchair and haul luggage at the same time. The flight was difficult for someone who couldn't bend her knee. Making the connecting flight in Minneapolis was a treat, too. We fortunately, were able to find airport personnel to push the chair and, I might add, getting off the ship was a breeze as a princess employee bushed her right by the rest of the line and down the ramp!

The bottom line is that the floor should have been safe, wet or not. Our vacation was ruined and my wife in pain. We considered legal action but it would have been difficult and far from a certain judgement. We were able to convince the medical staff not to bill us.

One thing I forgot to mention is that after the accident and after we left the medical center, we tried for rest of the druise to get someone from the loss prevention staff to speak with us, with no success.

When we got home, we told the folks on the cc princess board about the incident. We got fried by the trolls and received little sympathy from the others. They were sure we were gold diggers and that it was my wife's fault that she fell. We haven't been on Princess since but I'm sure we will return. We would have felt better if they had been willing to speak with us when we asked.

banderboo
August 2nd, 2007, 10:17 PM
It would really depend on the circumstances. In most cases slips and falls are accidents and while preventable can and do happen just about everywhere. However, there are circumstance that would warrent a lawsuit i.e a spill on a staircase that was brought to the attention of a crew member and ignored. Then cruiseline deny paying medical bills etc.

Whistlespitter
August 2nd, 2007, 10:21 PM
i fall down all the time. I blame no one but myself.

can I sue God if I slip on ice?
Yess, if the ice is somewhere that ice should not be!

willysgrandma
August 2nd, 2007, 10:45 PM
I agree with TRadle. If I slipped due to my own inattention, that would be entirely different. If I slipped because someone was negligent and didn't hurt anything, I would just move on. But if I slipped because someone was negligent and got hurt, I would certainly expect my medical expenses to be paid by the negligent party. In all the cases the OP cited, those were conditions that the cruise ship should have been aware of and should have taken care of. And the doctor, of course, should have properly diagnosed a fracture. If he/she wasn't sure, it wouldn't hurt to set it as if it were fractured and have the person follow-up when she got home. Always err on the side of caution.

-LadyZolt

I agree 100%

Merion_Mom
August 2nd, 2007, 11:49 PM
A flourescent light fixture fell from the ceiling of a supermarket, hit me in the head, and knocked me down. They paid for my stitches. I never sued.
I slipped and fell on a wet floor at the entrance to a store, and received stitches, and again, I never sued.
(I must be crazy, but I don't like courtrooms). :confused:
These things happened when I was age 25 and then about age 50. I'm just happy that the injuries weren't worse. :) My answer to the OP is that I probably wouldn't sue because it would be too much aggravation.
I don't think that I want to be around you when you turn 75. ;) :D

A Sixth?
August 3rd, 2007, 12:00 AM
Sorry, the question is too vague.

leoandhugh
August 3rd, 2007, 12:04 AM
As the preceding answers have shown, the only valid answer to the question polled is "maybe" because all the answers had to explain varying conditions associated with the slip or fall. If medical bills were not fully reimbursed, if ship's doctor took good care and diagnosed correctly, etc. etc, etc. From a poll and question such as posed by the OP no valid conclusions can be or should be drawn:(

mimikens
August 3rd, 2007, 12:06 AM
It would really depend upon how serious the injuries were (I wouldn't sue if I just skinned my knee or sprained something) and if the cruise lines were really at fault. I would only sue for medical expenses, lost wages and one free trip a year for the rest of my life! :D

dharmapath
August 3rd, 2007, 12:18 AM
only if I slipped on my own vomit from too many umbrella drinks.

Cincy-David
August 3rd, 2007, 04:25 PM
I have to chime in.

While on the Mariner of the Seas in November 2005, I slipped and fell right near the entrance of the Windjammer where they had set up a table to sell bottled water for the guest going out to the pool deck.

When I say I fell, I am a very large man (6' 6" and more than 300 pounds). I fell hard in front of lots of folks.

Clearly, the run off from the drink sales table caused my fall.

Thought I was not seriously injured (bruise leg and strained knee), my camera was destroyed and my prescription sunglasses were broken.

During the entire event, I was quite put off that not one staff member offerered to help me or even check on me (trust me, you could not have missed me lying on the floor).

Afterwards, another Cruise Critic member advised to me file a report with Guest Services to see if my cruise insurance would cover the value of my camera and glasses (about $700). I was told that it was and given a copy of the report to file with the cruise insurance once back home.

It has now been almost two years and I still have received a dime for the claim submitted (three times) on the personal belongings or the subsequent therapy that was required for my knee. Not one person ever followed up with me in person, despite dozens of attempts to get some assistance.

Had I known then how poorly this was all handled (by the insurance company), I would have sued for the $1,000 they still owe me. Seems petty, but it still burns me. Not horribly though, I have cruised RCL since then and have another booked for November.

Just my humble little story.
Dave

Monkey10
August 3rd, 2007, 09:42 PM
I am a proponent of torte reform, as people today can sue for millions for falling off a curb if it is not painted!!!

If I slipped and fell on my patootie, I'd probably get up, look around and see if anyone saw, and if they did, hide my face for the rest of the cruise out of embarrassment. :o

However, if I were seriously injured and they did not diagnose the injury correctly OR if they refused to pay the medical bills OR if the injury was caused by gross negligence of the cruise line, then I would sue.

But NOT for millions of dollars!!! I'd ask for only my medical bills, lost income (if I broke my wrist, I couldn't do my job for 6-12 weeks), and attorney's fees.

Travel insurance usually covers the medical expenses though.

Just my two cents.

boaterette
August 4th, 2007, 01:32 PM
I think that lawsuits are totally out of control. I work for an agency that gets sued a lot. People refuse to take personal resposibility anymore and are mostly looking to blame others. I have yet to see anyone sue for just their meds or lost wages. Every single lawsuit has asked for millions in punitive damages. It is totally ridiculous. We need tort reform.

BobBeaSea
August 4th, 2007, 02:23 PM
I think that lawsuits are totally out of control. I work for an agency that gets sued a lot. People refuse to take personal resposibility anymore and are mostly looking to blame others. I have yet to see anyone sue for just their meds or lost wages. Every single lawsuit has asked for millions in punitive damages. It is totally ridiculous. We need tort reform.

I don't think lawsuits are out of control, just some people are :). Every case is unique and different, let me give you an example: You are a woman diagnosed with breast cancer and you ultimately have surgery to remove both breasts. You find out after the fact you did not have breast cancer, your file, test results etc. were mixed up with other patients....do you think lost wages and meds is enough to cover this?

Think it can't happen? It did in Minnesota in 2002. You could say she is lucky she is alive but, what about the 98,000 people each year who die in hospitals due to negligence...any thoughts on remedies for their families?

To the lawyers on the boards, thank God we have ya and I sincerely hope I never need you for a lawsuit. :)