Eurodam is taking shape

[Copper10-8]

Latest pics from the Fincantieri yard in Italy

http://www.eurodamnews.com/images/photo-eurodam-construction-8-10-07.jpg

http://www.eurodamnews.com/images/photo-azipods-installation.jpg

[Quenby]

Sweet!!! Thanks, Copper :D

[jhannah]

Very cool. Looks like she's on track. Certainly looking handsome, even though somewhat skeletal at this point.

[LAFFNVEGAS]

Thanks John, She certainly is taking shape. Looking forward to seeing more as construction continues:)

[Krazy Kruizers]

Thanks!!

[earl_m]

looking good!!

[Charliesmom]

It's interesting to see it. It looks as though there is a shorter bow. Do you think that is so?

Roberta

[Copper10-8]

It's interesting to see it. It looks as though there is a shorter bow. Do you think that is so?

Roberta


Agree! It does appear that way from that particular angle but it should be the same type of bow as the Vista's.

http://photoblog.seablogger.com/images/2005/04/westerdam.jpg

[bepsf]

It's interesting to see it. It looks as though there is a shorter bow. Do you think that is so?

Roberta

No - it merely has an addition to the superstructure on Deck 4 forward, very much like that which is on Queen Victoria.
(another Vista derivative...)

[CruiseBumm]

Nice pics. Can't wait to see the finishedship.

[bepsf]

http://www.eurodamnews.com/images/photo-eurodam-construction-8-10-07.jpg



I find it disappointing that the forward corner SZ suites on Deck 10 will have no forward facing windows...
...without any forward facing windows, no jacuzzi tub and a smaller verandah than is typical for that category, I find little reason to spend the additional money for either of them.

[Sunshine91]

http://www.eurodamnews.com/images/photo-azipods-installation.jpg

That's one mighty big screw! :D

Thanks for the pix, Copper. Our Edam bank account is looking healthy so it's good to know that she's coming along nicely, too. ;)

[jtl513]

I find it disappointing that the forward corner SZ suites on Deck 10 will have no forward facing windows...
...without any forward facing windows, no jacuzzi tub and a smaller verandah than is typical for that category, I find little reason to spend the additional money for either of them.The Deck Plans (http://www.hollandamerica.com/fleet/deckPlan.do?ship=ed&deck=o&year=next) indicate that they would each have 2 forward windows. I wonder why the strange change. :confused:

[Tinknock50]

The Deck Plans (http://www.hollandamerica.com/fleet/deckPlan.do?ship=ed&deck=o&year=next) indicate that they would each have 2 forward windows. I wonder why the strange change. :confused:

I agree....what a disappointment for an otherwise interesting cabin.

[bepsf]

I agree....what a disappointment for an otherwise interesting cabin.

You're right - IMO, that location seems to call out for floor-to-ceiling windows in all the staterooms at the front of Deck 10

...but with those little windows in the C Category cabins and none facing forward in the corner suites, it appears that Deck 10 was designed by a bunch of accountants.
:cool:

[jhannah]

It makes for a bit of a boxy look, IMO. It was hard to tell from the renderings, but it's that way there, too.

[fcorey]

You're right - IMO, that location seems to call out for floor-to-ceiling windows in all the staterooms at the front of Deck 10

...but with those little windows in the C Category cabins and none facing forward in the corner suites, it appears that Deck 10 was designed by a bunch of accountants.
:cool:

It does look really odd, like it doesnt match the floor plan, I wonder what happened? Maybe this is a question for the blog?

[Copper10-8]

Are you guys referring to those four rectangular windows two decks above the bridge?

[Copper10-8]

That's one mighty big screw! :D

Thanks for the pix, Copper. Our Edam bank account is looking healthy so it's good to know that she's coming along nicely, too. ;)

That's another pic of what an azipod looks like. The scew or propellor you're looking at is actually facing forward away from the stern

[hammybee]

Captain John Scott , during his Q/A session, mentioned that CCL orders all new builds with a generic VISTA-Like platform. Once the CCL organization decides which cruise line will charter the ship, it gets customized to that cruise line's specifications. He made it very clear that the holding company owns the ships, not the individual cruise lines, within the greater organization.

This is not too disimilar to the way other corporations account for their physical assets.

[RevNeal]

Are you guys referring to those four rectangular windows two decks above the bridge?

John, they're talking about Observation Deck Forward. Here:

http://www.revneal.org/Resources/ccimages/observationforward1.jpg

Note how the forward Suites have TINY verandahs but a nice forward view (two windows, actually, in each suite). The Photos don't depict what the deckplans show, however. There should be EIGHT windows across the front of the Observation Deck ... not four.

As an aside, from a purely personal standpoint, I'm pleased to note that it would appear that the staff clergy cabins (and guest entertainer cabins) have been located on this deck, just forward the stairs. :) We're under the crows nest, instead of abaft it (like on the R class ships). That's nice. MUCH nicer than on the Vistas, actually. :D

[Copper10-8]

Captain John Scott , during his Q/A session, mentioned that CCL orders all new builds with a generic VISTA-Like platform. Once the CCL organization decides which cruise line will charter the ship, it gets customized to that cruise line's specifications. He made it very clear that the holding company owns the ships, not the individual cruise lines, within the greater organization.

This is not too disimilar to the way other corporations account for their physical assets.

Very true! The "basic" Vista-class design can be found in the Carnival, HAL, Cunard and Costa fleets

[RevNeal]

Very true! The "basic" Vista-class design can be found in the Carnival, HAL, Cunard and Costa fleets


And P&O

The first time I saw the Arcadia I thought she was a Vista. She's definitely based on the Vista hull.

[Copper10-8]

John, they're talking about Observation Deck Forward. Here:



Note how the forward Suites have TINY verandahs but a nice forward view (two windows, actually, in each suite). The Photos don't depict what the deckplans show, however. There should be EIGHT windows across the front of the Observation Deck ... not four.

As an aside, from a purely personal standpoint, I'm pleased to note that it would appear that the staff clergy cabins (and guest entertainer cabins) have been located on this deck, just forward the stairs. :) We're under the crows nest, instead of abaft it (like on the R class ships). That's nice. MUCH nicer than on the Vistas, actually. :D

Thanks for 'splainin' Rev

You sure you want to be under the Crow's Nest? (unless you'll be up there yourself ordering Wang Wang's, partying, whooping, hollering and doing the Macarena)

And P&O

Right again, forgot about Arcadia

[RevNeal]

You sure you want to be under the Crow's Nest? (unless you'll be up there yourself ordering Wang Wang's, partying, whooping, hollering and doing the Macarena)

Let's see ... I can pay a couple of thousand dollars, per-person, for a cruise ... or I can go free and preach/preside at the Eucharist for my room and board. Which do I choose? $$$$$ or Free Cruise?? Hard choice.

:D

As for the "whooping" and "hollering" ... uh ... John ... it's the Holland America Line. The old codgers go to sleep at 11 pm ... remember??? :D ;)

[fcorey]

Let's see ... I can pay a couple of thousand dollars, per-person, for a cruise ... or I can go free and preach/preside at the Eucharist for my room and board. Which do I choose? $$$$$ or Free Cruise?? Hard choice.

:D

As for the "whooping" and "hollering" ... uh ... John ... it's the Holland America Line. The old codgers go to sleep at 11 pm ... remember??? :D ;)


Nice work if you can get it ;)

[jhannah]

The old codgers go to sleep at 11 pm ... remember??? :D ;) I resemble that remark! :)

[ekerr19]

I wonder if they've modified those cabins... makes no sense not to have the windows - so there should be eight... :confused:

We're sticking with the good old Rotterdam Deck for now, though I do like the idea of the curved balconies they are putting in above.

[bepsf]

And P&O

The first time I saw the Arcadia I thought she was a Vista. She's definitely based on the Vista hull.

Arcadia is "the lost Vista" - she was to be number 4 of 5 Vistas for HAL before her hull was transferred to Cunard as the original Queen Victoria - then when Cunard decided that a Vista wasn't up to snuff for their fleet, they transferred her again to P&O to become Arcadia.

(I have a pic of Noordam and Arcadia on Barbados together somewhere...)

[PRINSENDAM]

I wonder if they've modified those cabins... makes no sense not to have the windows - so there should be eight... :confused:

We're sticking with the good old Rotterdam Deck for now, though I do like the idea of the curved balconies they are putting in above.



Hi Laura,

Greetings from London!

I've not been following CC in the past few months. Not enough hours in the day!

On the question of the missing windows.... they have just not got around to cutting them out of the steel bulkhead. Sometimes the steel is errected with the openings already cut out... sometimes not.

I'm in full production mode here.... working on two of the paintings for EURODAM... plus the Delft tableau of the HALVE MAEN. What a job! Could not get tiles that I wanted so I had to 'make my own'. I spent two days rolling out lumps of clay and shaping them into tiles!

Best,

Stephen

[ekerr19]

Hi Laura,

Greetings from London!

I've not been following CC in the past few months. Not enough hours in the day!

On the question of the missing windows.... they have just not got around to cutting them out of the steel bulkhead. Sometimes the steel is errected with the openings already cut out... sometimes not.

I'm in full production mode here.... working on two of the paintings for EURODAM... plus the Delft tableau of the HALVE MAEN. What a job! Could not get tiles that I wanted so I had to 'make my own'. I spent two days rolling out lumps of clay and shaping them into tiles!

Best,

Stephen

Stephen -

Good to hear from you, - I can't wait to see the artwork on Eurodam - I'm especially pleased to hear you are involved to such degree. :) We are very much looking forward to seeing all you've been up to!

Thanks for the info on the windows - that makes sense, I didn't think of it... thanks for checking in with us.

Are you joining us on the inaugural?

[Copper10-8]

Hey Captain; good to hear from you! Take care and good luck with your work!

[jhannah]

Rolling out clay to make your own tiles? Didn't you look on ebay? ;)

So glad you're doing well and are helping get the E-Dam ready for us.

[Tinknock50]

Stephen,
Thanks for solving the mystery of the missing windows.:)

Hope to see your latest work someday.

[RevNeal]

O Captain, My Captain! SO good to hear from you!
Looking forward to seeing your masterworks!!!!!!!!

Thanks for the news on those forward cabins!!!!

[Sunshine91]

Capt. Card - I was SO excited when I saw your post!!! Haven't seen you on the boards here in ages & have been wondering what you've been up to - cruising, painting, fishing...... Just yesterday I mentioned to my John that I should start a thread asking after you.

Sure hope you'll be joining us next summer for E-dam's inaugural. It will be wonderful to see you & your work on that ship. :)

[bepsf]

Stephen--

Good to finally hear from you, and thanks for clearing up "The Mystery of the Missing Windows*"
I never would have imagined that they would cut the window openings after installing the module atop the ship, as it would seem so much simpler and safer to do so when the steel plate is flat on the plasma cutting table (if I have the piece of machinery correct) before bending the steel and assembling the module on the ground.

* And I would have gotten away with it too if it wasn't for those meddling kids...

[ekerr19]

Never mind, I just don't think I'm tracking properly here....

[Copper10-8]

Never mind, I just don't think I'm tracking properly here....


Whatdaya mean, Jean? Forgot to turn the lights on in the dark?:D ;)

[jtl513]

I never would have imagined that they would cut the window openings after installing the module atop the ship, Maybe it's my imagination, but if I look hard at the port side SZ cabin area I think I do see some faint rectangular shapes ... like the holes are there but temporarily blocked, maybe. :confused: :confused: :confused:

[bepsf]

Maybe it's my imagination, but if I look hard at the port side SZ cabin area I think I do see some faint rectangular shapes ... like the holes are there but temporarily blocked, maybe. :confused: :confused: :confused:

I don't see any on the forward bulkhead but I do see a trio of openings on the port side ahead of the balcony - is this what you're referring to?

It looks to me that the forward end of that deck is much more squared off than the deckplans show - I was thinking that it might be to better accomodate the bathroom module and furnishings?

[jtl513]

I don't see any on the forward bulkhead but I do see a trio of openings on the port side ahead of the balcony - is this what you're referring to?No, I meant on the forward bulkhead, and now that I've greatly enlarged that area I can see that I was just imagining some lines.

I agree that the plan diagram shows a much more curved area than the picture appears to show. We'll just have to wait and see.

[bishop84]

I find it disappointing that the forward corner SZ suites on Deck 10 will have no forward facing windows...
...without any forward facing windows, no jacuzzi tub and a smaller verandah than is typical for that category, I find little reason to spend the additional money for either of them.

Brian, Could it be the windows are covered over or protected? Other photos of ships being built I have seen show the windows covered or protected for when they are painting the ship etc.

Sorry I posted this before I saw Prinsendams reply.

[PRINSENDAM]

I don't see any on the forward bulkhead but I do see a trio of openings on the port side ahead of the balcony - is this what you're referring to?

It looks to me that the forward end of that deck is much more squared off than the deckplans show - I was thinking that it might be to better accomodate the bathroom module and furnishings?




Guys,

On google.com 'images' there is a computer generated view of EURODAM that shows only the four windows. Mystery! They could be waiting to be cut out or perhaps there has been a change in the plans. Without the forward facing windows those corner suites will be rather 'ordinary'. I'll see what I can find out.

Stephen

[RevNeal]

Guys,

On google.com 'images' there is a computer generated view of EURODAM that shows only the four windows. Mystery! They could be waiting to be cut out or perhaps there has been a change in the plans. Without the forward facing windows those corner suites will be rather 'ordinary'. I'll see what I can find out.

O Captain!
Actually, that computer-generated image is found on HAL's website under the Fleet page for the Eurodam. It, and the photo showing the same 4 windows but no foward windows for those two suites, is what occasioned Brian's (and my) questions on this matter.

THANK YOU, sir, for checking!

[Copper10-8]

Latest couple of pics of her rear end taking shape

http://www.eurodamnews.com/images/photos-euro-aft-construction-08-15-07.jpg

[LAFFNVEGAS]

Thanks John, I can see our cabin for our October 18th 2008 cruise:D

[Copper10-8]

Thanks John, I can see our cabin for our October 18th 2008 cruise:D

Was there any doubt?;)

[RevNeal]

Thanks John, I can see our cabin for our October 18th 2008 cruise:D

And I can see ours for our July 5th, 2008 cruise! :D

[LAFFNVEGAS]

Is it me or does it look like the Dining Room Windows are a lot larger than the Vista Class ships?

[jhannah]

Ours isn't there yet. I hope they don't forget it! ;)

[bepsf]

And I can see ours for our July 5th, 2008 cruise! :D

Looks like they're almost completely covered too...
...say "Goodbye" to the open-air aft vernadahs - that stern will be almost completely vertical.
:mad:

[RevNeal]

Looks like they're almost completely covered too...
...say "Goodbye" to the open-air aft vernadahs - that stern will be almost completely vertical.
:mad:

True ... although the "good" news is that we won't have to worry about people seeing us from above. :D We can ... uh ... enjoy "nature" as it were. :D

[jhannah]

On the Eurodam blog site there is an interesting question about the Pan-Asian restaurant, if it will be reservation only and extra fee. The answer given was, "We checked in with Blog Board member Johan Groothuizen on this topic. Johan and his team, including hotel manager Stan Kuppens and Master Chef Rudi Sodamin, currently are putting the finishing touches on the dining plan for Eurodam. He promises that new and exciting things are in the works, and we’ll report them here as soon as the plans are finalized."

Sure would love to be a fly on the wall at those meetings!

[bepsf]

True ... although the "good" news is that we won't have to worry about people seeing us from above. :D We can ... uh ... enjoy "nature" as it were. :D

Enjoy Nature?!?!
My Parents are going to be next door!!!
:eek:

[bepsf]

On the Eurodam blog site there is an interesting question about the Pan-Asian restaurant, if it will be reservation only and extra fee.

Reservation Only?
It had better be...

Extra Fee?
Undoubtedly.

[Copper10-8]

Enjoy Nature?!?!
My Parents are going to be next door!!!
:eek:


Time for the topless deck?;)

[bepsf]

Time for the topless deck?;)

John--

I love my parents - I really do...
...but there's certain things I just don't need to think about.
(and this is one of them!)
;)

[Crusing Bob]

maybe they are going to cut in the floor to ceiling windows before it is finished.

[jhannah]

Don't those aft cabins have mirrors over the beds? ;)

[RevNeal]

Enjoy Nature?!?!
My Parents are going to be next door!!!
:eek:

LOL ... but they've already seen you "in the natural." No? ;) :eek:

[LAFFNVEGAS]

Don't those aft cabins have mirrors over the beds? ;)


Jim, Shhhhhh, you are not to give out those special secrets of those aft cabins:D

[RevNeal]

Jim, Shhhhhh, you are not to give out those special secrets of those aft cabins:D

OVER the beds ... not above the headboards? :eek: :D

[ekerr19]

OVER the beds ... not above the headboards? :eek: :D

You guys - hate to burst your bubbles- those thingys above you aren't "mirrors" they are upper berths!!!!;)

[ekerr19]

On the Eurodam blog site there is an interesting question about the Pan-Asian restaurant, if it will be reservation only and extra fee. The answer given was, "We checked in with Blog Board member Johan Groothuizen on this topic. Johan and his team, including hotel manager Stan Kuppens and Master Chef Rudi Sodamin, currently are putting the finishing touches on the dining plan for Eurodam. He promises that new and exciting things are in the works, and we’ll report them here as soon as the plans are finalized."

Sure would love to be a fly on the wall at those meetings!

Me too Jim... I really hope they keep the Pan-Asian concept - as well as the Italian option - heck we might feel like we're back in the Odyssey!

[RuthC]

Time for the topless deck?;)
John, don't start.

[ekerr19]

John, don't start.

I second... :(

[jhannah]

OVER the beds ... not above the headboards? :eek: :D That was my frame of reference for that post! :D

[bepsf]

LOL ... but they've already seen you "in the natural." No? ;) :eek:


That was some time ago... :o
...and I'd really rather keep it that way (and vice versa) Thankyouverymuch!
:cool:


***BEPSF begins to wonder if bringing M&D along with this crowd is really that great an idea after all***
;) :rolleyes:

[RevNeal]

That was some time ago... :o
...and I'd really rather keep it that way (and vice versa) Thankyouverymuch!
:cool:


***BEPSF begins to wonder if bringing M&D along with this crowd is really that great an idea after all***
;) :rolleyes:


LOL ... I'm promise I'll be VERY good. :) VERY good.

he .... he .... hehehe

[InTheWASide]

Is it me or does it look like the Dining Room Windows are a lot larger than the Vista Class ships?

mmm... Don't think so Lisa. They look the same. But EVERYTHING looks bigger before it's painted...

http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto=64CZBXTN

[bishop84]

On the Eurodam blog site there is an interesting question about the Pan-Asian restaurant, if it will be reservation only and extra fee. The answer given was, "We checked in with Blog Board member Johan Groothuizen on this topic. Johan and his team, including hotel manager Stan Kuppens and Master Chef Rudi Sodamin, currently are putting the finishing touches on the dining plan for Eurodam. He promises that new and exciting things are in the works, and we’ll report them here as soon as the plans are finalized."

Sure would love to be a fly on the wall at those meetings!

Now that the "As You Wish Dining" concept has been adopted one possibility could be the splitting of the main Dining Room. With the the different levels now acting as virtually separate restaurants they could take away that internal staircase, close the opening, and create more space for dining. Looking at the deck plans the main dining room looks like the same size as the Vistas, so where are the extra passengers going to eat? Especially if the Pan-Asian will have an extra fee.

Another possibility could be a 3rd speciality restaurant, with an extra-fee of course!:rolleyes:.

[jhannah]

Especially if the Pan-Asian will have an extra fee. Oh, that's a done deal. And the AYW scheme is shaping up to be basically an upper/lower division of the dining room.

[bepsf]

Looking at the deck plans the main dining room looks like the same size as the Vistas, so where are the extra passengers going to eat? Especially if the Pan-Asian will have an extra fee.

Another possibility could be a 3rd speciality restaurant, with an extra-fee of course!:rolleyes:.

The Dining Room is exactly the same space and layout as the Vistas.

I'm sure HAL expect overflow to take advantage of Pinnacle, the Pan-Asian, the Lido and the Italian Venue (the 3rd specialty restaurant)

[Copper10-8]

John, don't start.

Yes, Mum!:o

[bishop84]

I'm sure HAL expect overflow to take advantage of Pinnacle, the Pan-Asian, the Lido and the Italian Venue (the 3rd specialty restaurant)

Brian, Do you think there will be a charge for the Italian Venue? I thought that was just going to be the forward midships part of the Lido partitioned off in the evening and served from the current Pizza/Pasta Bar?

[Copper10-8]

Brian, Do you think there will be a charge for the Italian Venue? I thought that was just going to be the forward midships part of the Lido partitioned off in the evening and served from the current Pizza/Pasta Bar?


I'm willing to bet you that there will be a charge on all speciality restaurants

[bepsf]

Brian, Do you think there will be a charge for the Italian Venue? I thought that was just going to be the forward midships part of the Lido partitioned off in the evening and served from the current Pizza/Pasta Bar?

I couldn't say - but IMO the menu would have to be a bit more than simply pasta and pizza to warrant any sort of surcharge, considering the same food is essentially free throughout the daylight hours and aboard the other 13 ships.

[Copper10-8]

Latest pics:

http://www.eurodamnews.com/images/photo-Deck4-Bridge.jpg

[Copper10-8]

Stern/belly with azipods installed

http://www.eurodamnews.com/images/photo-Eurodam-Azipods.jpg

[Copper10-8]

Mock-up of a verandah stateroom

http://www.eurodamnews.com/images/photo-Eurodam-Outs.jpg.

[jtl513]

Mock-up of a verandah stateroom

I like that look a LOT better than the IKEA-style artist's rendering we saw a few months ago.

[jhannah]

In the stateroom picture, notice the small cloud that appears in the mirror's image but not out the verandah view? (Sorry ... I just tend to notice those things.) ;)

[jtl513]

In the stateroom picture, notice the small cloud that appears in the mirror's image but not out the verandah view? (Sorry ... I just tend to notice those things.) ;)Well of course! Because of the reflection angle, the cloud OUTside the window is actually hidden by the left curtain in the straight-on view. :D

[RuthC]

Mock-up of a verandah stateroom


Any mock-up's of a dinky inside? ;)

[Copper10-8]

Any mock-up's of a dinky inside? ;)

Sorry Ma'am, haven't seen those yet! Here's a large outside window

http://www.nedcruise.info/eurodam%20large%20outside.jpg

[Copper10-8]

And a superior balcony suite

http://www.nedcruise.info/eurodam%20sup%20balcony.jpg

[Copper10-8]

And an artitst's impression of what the finished product is going to look like

http://www.nedcruise.info/eurodam%20artist.jpg

[RevNeal]

Sorry Ma'am, haven't seen those yet! Here's a large outside window

http://www.nedcruise.info/eurodam%20large%20outside.jpg

What it says that it's a "large outside window," but its configuration really looks more like the lay out of a large inside J on Maindeck, forward the Atrium. It looks too square to be a large-outside with window.

I wonder where the windows is?

I HOPE it's what a large outside window looks like on the Eurodam ... Christopher and I are probably shifting to a D-category outside cabin on Main Deck (for $2000 savings).

[RevNeal]

And an artitst's impression of what the finished product is going to look like

http://www.nedcruise.info/eurodam%20artist.jpg

Note ... no windows for the forward-corner suites up-top, just the four square windows across the front-center. Captain Card says that they're there, but they don't show up in this artist's impression.

[jhannah]

Well of course! Because of the reflection angle, the cloud OUTside the window is actually hidden by the left curtain in the straight-on view. :D Um, check your perspective again. Also note that the metal door frame and jamb are practically the same size in the mirror, but the valence box over the door and window are much narrower in the mirror. And look at the angles. That's one crooked wall! :)

[RevNeal]

Two questions ...

1. Why is Alfred Hitchcock on the TV in this cabin??

http://www.eurodamnews.com/images/photo-Eurodam-Suite.jpg

2. And, why is he also on the TV in this cabin??

http://www.eurodamnews.com/images/photo-Eurodam-Outs.jpg

It's the late Alfred going to be the "Godfather" of the Eurodam?? Will the Eurodam be having "mystery cruises?" :D

[RevNeal]

And ... according to THIS (http://www.hollandamerica.com/fleet/stateroomHome.do?ship=ed) page on HAL's website,

this ...
http://www.nedcruise.info/eurodam%20large%20outside.jpg

Is a large inside stateroom, not how it's labeled in the above photo.
Strangely, HAL's website doesn't depict a large outside without Verandah.

[Druke I]

I know it is only an artist's impression, but it looks like the lifeboats' davits are backwards, or of a different than usual design.

[Stock Cop]

Two questions ...

1. Why is Alfred Hitchcock on the TV in this cabin??

http://www.eurodamnews.com/images/photo-Eurodam-Suite.jpg

2. And, why is he also on the TV in this cabin??

http://www.eurodamnews.com/images/photo-Eurodam-Outs.jpg

It's the late Alfred going to be the "Godfather" of the Eurodam?? Will the Eurodam be having "mystery cruises?" :D

Just a post mortem experience.....:D

Rich

[LAFFNVEGAS]

Two questions ...

1. Why is Alfred Hitchcock on the TV in this cabin??

http://www.eurodamnews.com/images/photo-Eurodam-Suite.jpg

2. And, why is he also on the TV in this cabin??

http://www.eurodamnews.com/images/photo-Eurodam-Outs.jpg

It's the late Alfred going to be the "Godfather" of the Eurodam?? Will the Eurodam be having "mystery cruises?" :D


Greg, leave to you to catch that:D Darn, now I cannot get the theme music from his show out of my mind:eek:

[RevNeal]

I know it is only an artist's impression, but it looks like the lifeboats' davits are backwards, or of a different than usual design.

They look the same to me:

Eurodam:

http://www.nedcruise.info/eurodam%20artist.jpg

Close-up of davits on the Zuiderdam:

http://www.revneal.org/Resources/ccimages/davits.jpg

[RevNeal]

Greg, leave to you to catch that:D Darn, now I cannot get the theme music from his show out of my mind:eek:

If I have to go through the day hearing that theme music in my head, at least I'm not along in that any more. :D

[Copper10-8]

[QUOTE]
Why is Alfred Hitchcock on the TV in this cabin??/QUOTE]

That's not Alfred..............that's Jimmie Hoffa:eek: By jove, you've found him!

And to all the other super sleuths around here, keep up the good work!;)

[Happy HALer]

I see they are going to stick with the concept of putting too much furniture between the foot of the bed and the sofa. Somewhat like an obstacle course.

[Druke I]

I stand corrected re the davits.

I guess I need to get on a new HAL ship to see them - it has been awhile (97) since I've been on an HAL ship - Princess & Oceania having drawn me astray.

[Sunshine91]

Two questions ...

1. Why is Alfred Hitchcock on the TV in this cabin??................

2. And, why is he also on the TV in this cabin?? .................

It's the late Alfred going to be the "Godfather" of the Eurodam?? Will the Eurodam be having "mystery cruises?" :D

Perhaps for a screening of Lifeboat? ;)

In the photo mock-up of the verandah cabin, the TV is shown on the desk. On Noordam it's actually suspended on a little shelf above the desk, creating a whole lot more room. Hope they continue that feature.

[prescottbob]

Ahoy!

Much better marketing scheme then having the final, vertical 'plunge' scene of the '97 epic "Titanic".

Bon Voyage and Good Health!
Bob:)

[refman]

Stern/belly with azipods installed

http://www.eurodamnews.com/images/photo-Eurodam-Azipods.jpg

just trying to figure out the spelling on the ship`s stern,or are the letters not welded yet?

[Sunshine91]

just trying to figure out the spelling on the ship`s stern,or are the letters not welded yet?

Rotterdam - for her registry. :)

[RevNeal]

I stand corrected re the davits.

I guess I need to get on a new HAL ship to see them - it has been awhile (97) since I've been on an HAL ship - Princess & Oceania having drawn me astray.

AH, that explains it, then. Yes, the davits on the Vistas are very different from those on the S and R and N ships.

[Copper10-8]

Latest pics from the yard

http://www.eurodamnews.com/images/photo-eurodam-QV.jpg

Cunard's Queen Victoria on the left - Eurodam on the right

[Copper10-8]

Eurodam gets her funnels:

http://eurodamnews.com/images/photo-eurodam-funnel1.jpg


She will have two

http://eurodamnews.com/images/photo-eurodam-funnel3.jpg

[Copper10-8]

And one of her main 12-cylinder engines from the MaK factory in Rostock, Germany.

http://www.eurodamnews.com/images/photo-eurodam-engine.jpg

[Copper10-8]

Her hull is starting to get painted on 18 SEP 07

http://www.eurodamnews.com/images/photo-eurodam-hullpaint.jpg

We're talking a total of six layers of paint and coatings before going into service: two coats of epoxy primer, one layer of modified epoxy tie coat and three layers of self-polishing, antifouling tin-free paint.

[FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=3][COLOR=navy]http://www.eurodamnews.com/images/photo-eurodam-hullpaint2.jpg

[Copper10-8]

Lido pool area:

http://www.eurodamnews.com/images/photo-eurodam-Lidopool.jpg

[RevNeal]

The view from the topside restaurant won't be quite as nice/interesting when the Magrodome is closed. When it's open, the views might be interesting. :D

[jhannah]

Spoken as a true bombast! ;)

[PRINSENDAM]

Latest pics from the yard

http://www.eurodamnews.com/images/photo-eurodam-QV.jpg

Eurodam on the right

John,

Greetings!

A while back theer was some talk here about the missing 'windows' in the superstructure of EURODAM for two two outboard suites on the new Deck 11, I tyhink.

Anyhow, I can confirm that the window arrangement is as it is shown in the photo. Windows on the middle suites only. The two outboard suites will have only the balcony doors for light. Seems a shame that those suites will not have a view over the bow. (That would have pushed the price of a cruise up a few dollars... or euros!)

Anyhow to cover up the blank space there will be a wide dark blue stripe painted in. This should work.

Sorry have not been writing much lately. Have been busy with some pieces of art that must be ready by February. Not all work though... Ruth and I are off to the VEENDAM for two cruises, Montreal to Tampa then a Caribbean.

Stephen

[RevNeal]

O Captain My Captain! Good to "see" you!
Thanks for the information.
Yes, we were wondering how they were going to manage to keep it from looking downright ugly. Thanks for the information!

[jhannah]

Stephen, thanks. I'm sure you and Ruth will have a wonderful time with Master of the Vessel Albert Schoonderbeek. He's a fine captain.

[Copper10-8]

Thanks for checking in Captain Stephen! Taking your fine book to Statendam in about 30 minutes to try to get Captain "Jack" van Coevorden to sign it. (She's in L.A. for the day)

Enjoy your cruise on Veendam!

[bepsf]

Anyhow to cover up the blank space there will be a wide dark blue stripe painted in. This should work.



I'm glad HAL is taking my suggestion...
...I'll take my consultation fee in Champagne.
;)

[bepsf]

And one of her main 12-cylinder engines from the MaK factory in Rostock, Germany.

http://www.eurodamnews.com/images/photo-eurodam-engine.jpg


Dude - Is that a Hemi?
:cool:

[Copper10-8]

Dude - Is that a Hemi?
:cool:

Dude, where's my car?:eek:

[maxout]

"Sweet!" :eek: :D

[jhannah]

Just think of the string of Christmas lights you could fire up with that puppy! ;)

Three months from today Christmas will be over!

[Copper10-8]

Eurodam's fitness center/gym

http://www.eurodamnews.com/images/photo-eurodam-gym.jpg

[Copper10-8]

The beginning of the "float out" today, 28 SEP 07

http://www.eurodamnews.com/images/photo-eurodam-float.jpg

[Copper10-8]

Float out from looking at her bow and bulbous nose

http://www.eurodamnews.com/images/photo-eurodam-bulbous.jpg

[Copper10-8]

Fincantieri Shipyard Director Paolo Capobianco with Eurodam's Sponsor (not godmother), Anneke Dullaert, who is placing the coin during the coin ceremony Anneke (also one of my sister's name;) ) is the wife of retired chief engineer Willem Peter Dullaert who served as chief engineer for HAL from 1982 until last year. He oversaw construction of the first few ships of the S-class, starting with ms Statendam.

http://www.eurodamnews.com/images/photo-eurodam-coin2.jpg

[Copper10-8]

Meet her captain:
http://www.eurodamnews.com/images/vanDonselaar.jpg

[COLOR=navy]Captain Jeroen van Donselaar has been named master of Eurodam and will take the helm when the ship debuts next July. Currently he is the captain of Zuiderdam and is responsible for the entire ship and its complement.
Van Donselaar started with Holland America Line in 1986 as an apprentice officer aboard Noordam. After completing his studies at the De Ruyter Maritime University in Vlissingen, the Netherlands, he became fourth officer on the Nieuw Amsterdam. He continued to rise through the ranks until he was appointed captain in 2002.

Born in Kampen, The Netherlands, van Donselaar said he always has admired the sea. When he was a teenager he was invited onto the bridge of a ferry sailing across the North Sea, and he said the experience made such an impression that he decided to pursue a seafaring career. He noted that the highlight of his tenure with Holland America to date was the nautical supervision of the building of Zaandam in 1999.

When not at sea, van Donselaar lives in Long Island, New York, with his wife. He said he likes to keep his vacation days filled working on various home-improvement projects.

[Copper10-8]

And her Hotel Manager:
http://www.eurodamnews.com/images/photo-Kuppens-casual.jpg

As hotel manager on ms Eurodam, Stan Kuppens will be responsible for almost everything except the bridge and the engine room. His purview includes the restaurants, kitchens, bars, Housekeeping Department (guest and crew cabins, laundry, tailor shop and public areas), front office (guest relations, controller, human resources, night manager and purser), shore excursions, concessionaires, entertainment and medical services.
It’s a big job, but it is a position that Kuppens has been preparing for his entire life.

Growing up in the town of Nijmegen, in the eastern Netherlands, Kuppens enjoyed sailing and watching boats on the Waal and Rhine rivers. A precocious world traveler, his parents had taken him to more than 10 countries before he was 10 years old. Through his early travel experiences, Kuppens developed a fascination with other cultures and a desire to meet people from around the globe.

He recognized that the hospitality industry would enable him to combine his love of travel and his affinity for people into a career. While studying at the University of Hotel Management, Kuppens managed a company that catered conventions and entertainment functions.
“My proudest moment was having the distinct honor of personally serving Her Majesty Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands,” said Kuppens.

After graduation, he entered Holland America Line’s multiyear management training program.
Kuppens has sailed with Holland America Line and Windstar Cruises for 16 years, and has prepared for and sailed multiple Grand World Voyages. After completing the 2002 world cruise as food and beverage manager, Kuppens was promoted to hotel manager on the line’s flagship, ms Rotterdam.

In 2004, he transferred to the new Vista Class of ships to oversee the introduction of ms Westerdam. Following that successful inaugural, Kuppens was asked to move to Venice, Italy, to oversee construction of ms Noordam.
He is moving back to Venice in 2008 to oversee construction of Eurodam, the first Signature Class ship. He will report in February with a staff of 10 to start daily shipboard inspections that will continue until Eurodam is ready to sail.

Kuppens and his wife live in the small town of Oosterbeek (close to Arnhem), in eastern Netherlands. When on vacation, he says he enjoys traveling and participating in an occasional game of soccer.

[Copper10-8]

Couple more float-out pics:
The champagne bottle breaks
http://www.eurodamnews.com/images/photo-eurodam-bottle.jpg

The two Euro coins after being placed by Anneke Dullaert

http://www.eurodamnews.com/images/photo-eurodam-finalcoin.jpg

[Copper10-8]

Eurodam in her temporary new home, the outfitting dock (still riding high in the water - note her bulbous bow sticking out)

http://www.eurodamnews.com/images/photo-eurodam-108.jpg

And a look at her stern or rear end

http://www.eurodamnews.com/images/photo-eurodam-108aft.jpg

[Copper10-8]

Prefabricated staterooms being installed into their assigned slots onboard
http://www.eurodamnews.com/images/photo-eurodam-cabininstall.jpg

http://www.eurodamnews.com/images/photo-eurodam-cabinexterior.jpg

http://www.eurodamnews.com/images/photo-eurodam-precabin.jpg

[RevNeal]

hmmm ... the one labeled 7 is definitely an outside Verandah cabin. Note the configuration of the desk/counter space to the left of the outer-opening.

[LAFFNVEGAS]

The lines of the ship do look to be a bit different than the Vista Class. It appears that while on the all the Vista Class ships the aft cabins on Deck 5 are the largest but it alomst appears that possibley Deck 4 could be the largest on the Eurodam.

[jhannah]

I think it's fascinating that the bulbous bow is now above water, but when the ship is outfitted the weight will push it down below the water line.

[innlady1]

The lines of the ship do look to be a bit different than the Vista Class. It appears that while on the all the Vista Class ships the aft cabins on Deck 5 are the largest but it alomst appears that possibley Deck 4 could be the largest on the Eurodam.

You're right, the stern doesn't have as steep a pitch as on the Vista class ships. Interesting.

[LAFFNVEGAS]

Looking at the side view of the aft cabins based on where the starboard side verandah cabins start it appears to me that both Deck 4 and Deck 7 have the largest aft cabins in length. On the prior Vistas Deck 5 was the longest and therefore the largest aft cabins. It makes sense that Deck 7 they would try to make larger due to it being the closest to the Neptune and they classify that cabin as a SB rather than a SC. Darn I booked the Deck 5 corner aft for our October cruise thinking it could be like the Vista Class and be the largest:o

[RevNeal]

As I said, somewhere above, the Signature Class is a different class of ship. Yes, they are based upon the Vista class concept and design, but they are not the same class of ship and will have many significant differences. It would appear that this is one of them.

[Venture]

I noted in viewing the 'beam photo' of EURODAM that the dark blue hull paint does not 'break' as the Vista hulls do. The blue runs in line from stern to bow with an upward sheer to the bow..... all same ROTTERDAM. I believe this greatly improves her visual appearance. She is going to be a beauty!!

Vista's would look great with the same painted sheer.
Dave

[bepsf]

Darn I booked the Deck 5 corner aft for our October cruise thinking it could be like the Vista Class and be the largest:o

Lisa--
I too expected to get at least some sun on my Deck 5 verandah, as per Noordam - but the stern verandahs are very nearly completely covered.
I may as well have booked an SS.

It's been major disappointment to me...
:(

[bepsf]

As I said, somewhere above, the Signature Class is a different class of ship. Yes, they are based upon the Vista class concept and design, but they are not the same class of ship and will have many significant differences. It would appear that this is one of them.

Greg--

If you were referring to Cunard's Queen Victoria, I'd agree...

...but on this I disagree w/ you. There are too many similarities and what few differences there are have obviously been afterthoughts tacked onto the Vista design.

[alonzo14]

The Euradom should be very nice. I'm glad they added an extra alternative restaraunt as she does carry more passengers than the Vistas do.

Yes the Queen Victoria lowest suites have the same layout as the minsuites on Princess except a different decor. The next lowest class suites have the same layout as the SA,SB and SC's on the Vistas except the decor. I was a little surprised to see this. I guess they are trying to save money. However there are also similarities in the layouts of the cabins on Royal Carribean and Celebrity. Another money saving idea.

[RevNeal]

Greg--

If you were referring to Cunard's Queen Victoria, I'd agree...

...but on this I disagree w/ you. There are too many similarities and what few differences there are have obviously been afterthoughts tacked onto the Vista design.

In my opinion the additions and modifications to the Vista class -- not the cosmetic differences, but those additions and changes that cannot be (easily or even ever) applied to the Vistas -- are sufficient in scope to qualify the Eurodam and her unnamed sister ship as different class. Granted, it's not a whole new concept in terms of vessel ... not like the striking difference between the R-class and the Vistas ... but the differences are not just minor afterthoughts "tacked onto" the design. Rather, they are modifications and improvements (HAL calls them "evolutionary" developments) on the Vista concept ... indeed, similar to the modifications that were incorperated into the S-class that resulted in the R-class ship. Yes, the public deck layouts between the Vista and the Signature are very similar -- and, in some cases, identical -- but the differences/additions are also rather striking. This is another way in which it's similar to the differences between the S and R class ships. The S and Rs have very similar public decks, pretty much identical cabin layouts, and they even look like they're closely related. But they're different classes of ship. The differneces between the Vistas and the Signatures will be less extreme than the differences between the S and the R (particularly so in terms of the nautical platform features), but they're still significant.

[bepsf]

In my opinion the additions and modifications to the Vista class...
...are sufficient in scope to qualify the Eurodam and her unnamed sister ship as different class...

While I think we can agree that the differences between the S and R Class are far more extensive than those of the Vistas and Signatures...

...but we'll have to agree to disagree that a couple of additions to the superstructure, changes in decor and modified paintjob truly justify calling it an entirely different class of ship except for PR purposes.

If that were the case, one could justify stating that Amsterdam is of a different class from Rotterdam, as the newer ship not only has greater tonnage, but an entirely different system of propulsion.
;)

[Copper10-8]

http://www.eurodamnews.com/images/photo-eurodam-zeller150.jpg

As Eurodam's culinary operations manager, Mark Zeller is responsible for managing and executing the food preparation, presentation and delivery in all of the ship’s dining venues. Formerly called the food and beverage manager, Holland America Line split the position into two jobs — culinary operations manager and beverage manager — to allow a greater focus on each area.

For Zeller, going to sea was in his blood. The son of a well-known hotel manager who served with Holland America Line for more than 43 years, he was exposed to ship life when he was just 3 years old. The Dutchman, who was born in Dordrecht, the Netherlands, chose to follow in his father’s footsteps and enrolled in hotel management school in Leeuwarden. After three years of schooling, he served a year-long internship at The Marquette Hotel in Minneapolis, Minn., where he realized that he preferred a job at sea.

Knowing that Holland America Line was the only line for him, Zeller accepted a position as an assistant dinning room manager in 1996. Over the next eight years, he worked his way through various positions within the Hotel Department, eventually becoming culinary operations manager in 2004. Just 28 at the time of his appointment, he was Holland America Line’s youngest culinary operations manager.

Zeller has been involved in the newbuild setup and introductions of all four vista-class ships, and he currently is culinary operations manager on board ms Amsterdam.

When not at sea, Zeller enjoys spending time outdoors and can be found backpacking, scuba diving and sky diving around the world.

[RevNeal]

I met Mark on the Noordam this January. Nice gentleman. :) Glad he's gotten the job.

His dad was another class act.

[Copper10-8]

Some interior shots of the future Neptune Lounge

http://www.eurodamnews.com/images/photo-eurodam-neptune.jpg

[Copper10-8]

And the future Shorex office

http://www.eurodamnews.com/images/photo-eurodam-shoreex.jpg

[mamaofami]

Brian, or anyone else out there, does it look to you as though all the aft verandas are completely covered...no sun?:confused:

[RevNeal]

Brian, or anyone else out there, does it look to you as though all the aft verandas are completely covered...no sun?:confused:

That will depend upon the course the ship is steering and the elevation of the sun. I'm sure that if the sun is shining down on the aft of the ship and the ship is sailing north you'll get sun on those aft verandahs decks. Just not as much.

[tsd1]

Is it possible that the forward SZ windows
weren't cut out when the picture was taken?

[RuthC]

I don't remember seeing any renditions of my customary cabin. :confused: You know, the army cot by the engine room? ;)

[RevNeal]

Is it possible that the forward SZ windows
weren't cut out when the picture was taken?

I wish that were the case ... but ... no. There won't be forward windows in those two cabins. :(

[RevNeal]

I don't remember seeing any renditions of my customary cabin. :confused: You know, the army cot by the engine room? ;)

Me neither ... but the Neptune lounge sure looks like a cozy, opulent place! ;)

[bepsf]

That will depend upon the course the ship is steering and the elevation of the sun. I'm sure that if the sun is shining down on the aft of the ship and the ship is sailing north you'll get sun on those aft verandahs decks. Just not as much.

Only if the sun us sailing due east and its the 1/2 hour at sunset, will you ever get full sun on those verandahs...
:rolleyes:

[bepsf]

Yes the Queen Victoria lowest suites have the same layout as the minsuites on Princess except a different decor. The next lowest class suites have the same layout as the SA,SB and SC's on the Vistas except the decor. I was a little surprised to see this. I guess they are trying to save money. However there are also similarities in the layouts of the cabins on Royal Carribean and Celebrity. Another money saving idea.

There's only so many ways to rearrange the furniture...
:cool:

[RevNeal]

Only if the sun us sailing due east and its the 1/2 hour at sunset, will you ever get full sun on those verandahs...
:rolleyes:


Oh, for more than 1/2 hour. And, remember, we'll be further North on the Inaugural, which will make for the Sun having a different angle than you're used to at your latitude ... and MUCH more than in the Caribbean.

However ... it won't be like on the original deck plans of the Vistas.

[RevNeal]

There's only so many ways to rearrange the furniture...
:cool:

They could bolt it to the ceiling. :D

[ekerr19]

I'm excited seeing it take shape - so is DH. He has always been curious to see photos of the construction process - especially given his occupation.

He took some amazing shots :eek: of some electrical configurations and panels he came across in Malta and showed them to the guys at work... they really enjoy seeing how work is done in many places outside the U.S. :)

[Jade13]

John, they're talking about Observation Deck Forward. Here:

http://www.revneal.org/Resources/ccimages/observationforward1.jpg

Note how the forward Suites have TINY verandahs but a nice forward view (two windows, actually, in each suite). The Photos don't depict what the deckplans show, however. There should be EIGHT windows across the front of the Observation Deck ... not four.

As an aside, from a purely personal standpoint, I'm pleased to note that it would appear that the staff clergy cabins (and guest entertainer cabins) have been located on this deck, just forward the stairs. :) We're under the crows nest, instead of abaft it (like on the R class ships). That's nice. MUCH nicer than on the Vistas, actually. :D

What about the cabins above on the Sports Deck? One web site showed them as "V" Outsides with floor to ceiling windows but HAL (obviously the correct diagrams) has them as "VT" Verandahs. Do you think they would be a lot of noice nect to the crows nest?

I can't tell if on either the Observation or Sports Decks you can walk right outside to a common deck?

[ekerr19]

What about the cabins above on the Sports Deck? One web site showed them as "V" Outsides with floor to ceiling windows but HAL (obviously the correct diagrams) has them as "VT" Verandahs. Do you think they would be a lot of noice nect to the crows nest?

I can't tell if on either the Observation or Sports Decks you can walk right outside to a common deck?

I don't understand if they are just floor to ceiling windows or true verandah cabins... :confused: The cost is that of verandah, so one would think...

[Jade13]

I don't understand if they are just floor to ceiling windows or true verandah cabins... :confused: The cost is that of verandah, so one would think...

Look again. One of the diagrams is in error. Both are dated 9/1/07. When you open up the info on the Eurodam deck plans it says "Ocean View" "T". It is the same when you go under Sports deck and open up the PDF file. BUT, when you open up the PDF file for all the decks the cabins on the Sports Deck are listed as "VT" "Verandah Decks". They are priced like the Verandahs.

[Jade13]

What about the cabins above on the Sports Deck? One web site showed them as "V" Outsides with floor to ceiling windows but HAL (obviously the correct diagrams) has them as "VT" Verandahs. Do you think they would be a lot of noise nect to the crows nest?

I can't tell if on either the Observation or Sports Decks you can walk right outside to a common deck?

I meant to say that it shows up as a "T" on the on-line Sports Deck diagram and the printable Sports Deck PDF diagram. The printable of all the decks shows ot as a "VT".

Also, if it was an Ocean View why would they not call it a "B" (or an "A"), if the highest Ocean View is currently a "C".

[bepsf]

What about the cabins above on the Sports Deck? One web site showed them as "V" Outsides with floor to ceiling windows but HAL (obviously the correct diagrams) has them as "VT" Verandahs. Do you think they would be a lot of noice nect to the crows nest?

I can't tell if on either the Observation or Sports Decks you can walk right outside to a common deck?

HAL has changed the configuration of those Deck 10 "T" staterooms at least twice.

First, they were supposed to be "Panorama" staterooms with floor to ceiling fixed panel windows.

Then, HAL decided to make the windows sliders with a "Juliet" balcony (just a rail - no outdoor space)

Lastly, HAL decided to weld on little curved balconies - Don't expect to see chairs or tables out there...

The "V" staterooms are those on Deck 8 in the space where SS's should have been like the Vistas. They obviously did this to increase the occupancy density by nearly 50% in the same amount of space: 74 standard staterooms where 50 Mini-Suites used to be.

As you can see, the corner SZ's have no forward windows and a relatively small balcony instead of the forward facing windows shown on the deckplans. They will also have the standard bathroom module: one sink and a standard tub only instead of the larger bath module found in other SZ/SY/SS's

Yes, you can walk aft to an open deck - There are no open forward decks between Deck 7 and Deck 11.

[Jade13]

HAL has changed the configuration of those Deck 10 "T" staterooms at least twice.

First, they were supposed to be "Panorama" staterooms with floor to ceiling fixed panel windows.

Yes, you can walk aft to an open deck - There are no open forward decks between Deck 7 and Deck 11.



I just received an e-mail from HAL in Seattle. The "T's" are Ocean Views with floor to ceiling windows - no balcony.

Ok, I am considering a cruise on the Eurodam and planning on an Ocean View instead of a Verandah. If you had a choice between the Observation Deck "C's" or the Sports Deck "T's" which would you pick? Note that the T's are $10pp per day more, so the price difference is not an issue. Also note that I seem to be one of the few persons on this bb that likes forward cabins. If one takes a T, where do they walk to get to a deck? Is it through the Crows Nest?

Which location/cabin would you pick between a C and a T and why? I am curious.

[bepsf]

I just received an e-mail from HAL in Seattle. The "T's" are Ocean Views with floor to ceiling windows - no balcony.

Ok, I am considering a cruise on the Eurodam and planning on an Ocean View instead of a Verandah. If you had a choice between the Observation Deck "C's" or the Sports Deck "T's" which would you pick? Note that the T's are $10pp per day more, so the price difference is not an issue. Also note that I seem to be one of the few persons on this bb that likes forward cabins. If one takes a T, where do they walk to get to a deck? Is it through the Crows Nest?

Which location/cabin would you pick between a C and a T and why? I am curious.

HAL Customer Service Strikes again.
:cool: Clearly they don't read their own blog...

This is the latest photo of those T staterooms - see the little scalloped balconies?
http://www.eurodamnews.com/images/photo-scalloped-balconies.jpg

[Jade13]

HAL Customer Service Strikes again.
:cool: Clearly they don't read their own blog...

This is the latest photo of those T staterooms - see the little scalloped balconies?
http://www.eurodamnews.com/images/photo-scalloped-balconies.jpg

Do you know the scheduled size for the "C" windows on the Observation Deck? Are they little windows or floor to ceiling, or do they even know?

[ekerr19]

Thanks Brian! I couldn't remember where I saw pictures of those small curved balconies...the kids want to try one of those cabins.

[RevNeal]

Do you know the scheduled size for the "C" windows on the Observation Deck? Are they little windows or floor to ceiling, or do they even know?

According to THIS photo, it's the rectangular windows, not the floor to ceiling windows:

http://www.eurodamnews.com/images/photo-Deck4-Bridge.jpg

[RevNeal]

The latest deckplans on HAL's website have been changed to reflect the "little scalloped balconies."

Old plan-

http://www.revneal.org/Resources/eurodamsports1.jpg

New plan:-
http://www.revneal.org/Resources/eurodamsports2.jpg

[Jade13]

According to THIS photo, it's the rectangular windows, not the floor to ceiling windows:

http://www.eurodamnews.com/images/photo-Deck4-Bridge.jpg

Kind of a neat view.

[Jade13]

The latest deckplans on HAL's website have been changed to reflect the "little scalloped balconies."

Old plan-

http://www.revneal.org/Resources/eurodamsports1.jpg

New plan:-
http://www.revneal.org/Resources/eurodamsports2.jpg

Those are kind of neat too. But, I wonder if it would be noisy with the elevator traffic into the Crows Nest?

[RevNeal]

Those are kind of neat too. But, I wonder if it would be noisy with the elevator traffic into the Crows Nest?

I don't think so.
It's the same basic area as on the R-class ships, where they house the chaplains and guest entertainers. The cabins are nice and the sound-proofing is really quiet good. Yes, from time to time I could hear stuff ... but it wasn't bad.

The motion is more, being that far forward and that high up ... but that made for a fun time. :)

[ekerr19]

I don't think they'd be noisy either. Half the time people don't "discover" how to get up there until the end of the voyage, lol!

We might give one of them a try....

[RevNeal]

Here's the same area on an R-class ship. Note the proximity of the Chaplain, lecturer, and guest entertainer cabins to the elevators and crows nest.

http://www.revneal.org/Resources/rotterdamsports1.jpg

I've stayed in the 5th-back outside cabin on the port side and, once, in the 2nd-back cabin on the starboard side. On the starboard side the cabins are about the same size as the inside portion of a A/B Verandah Cabin ... very nice ... and are usually given to guest entertainers and/or other visiting HAL executives. If they're vacant, however, they sometimes let the chaplains stay there ... unless there's vacancies in inside/outside cabins elsewhere board ship, in which case we can stay in passenger country. The normal Chaplain cabins are on the port side, and these are a little smaller than the passenger inside cabins on the R-class ships, but they're not any smaller than most of the inside cabins on the Vistas or the old N-class ships. For one person they're perfect. Especially-so, given that I'm aboard ship for "free" (when serving as Chaplain). :)

In that area I was never much bothered by noise, even when the party was "hopping" in the crows nest. Of course ... I was AT the party, so that might be part of the reason why it didn't bother me!! :D

In short, I just don't see those T-category cabins having any trouble with noise. And, given how close one is to a great view from the Crows Nest and the Explorations Cafe ... I think it would be a NICE place to stay. If one can afford it.

[ekerr19]

Here's the same area on an R-class ship. Note the proximity of the Chaplain, lecturer, and guest entertainer cabins to the elevators and crows nest.

http://www.revneal.org/Resources/rotterdamsports1.jpg



In short, I just don't see those T-category cabins having any trouble with noise. And, given how close one is to a great view from the Crows Nest and the Explorations Cafe ... I think it would be a NICE place to stay. If one can afford it.

I think they'd be nice too Greg - much less than the cost of the SA - but the kids don't really care that much about the SA perks anyway... I'm going to get a quote on one of them and see. Thanks for all the info - I was royally confused and now I'm not. :)

[RuthC]

In that area I was never much bothered by noise, even when the party was "hopping" in the crows nest. Of course ... I was AT the party, so that might be part of the reason why it didn't bother me!! :D
Remember, too, that the Crow's Nest isn't likely to be the hotbed of nightlife on the E-dam that it is on the R-class ships. ;)
The E-dam, like the Vista's will have the nightclub in Northern Lights (or it's equivalent if they change the name :confused: ).

There may be some entertainment there at night, but I suspect it will be low-key as opposed to "hopping".

[RevNeal]

Remember, too, that the Crow's Nest isn't likely to be the hotbed of nightlife on the E-dam that it is on the R-class ships. ;)
The E-dam, like the Vista's will have the nightclub in Northern Lights (or it's equivalent if they change the name :confused: ).

There may be some entertainment there at night, but I suspect it will be low-key as opposed to "hopping".

True ... very true. Though ... well ... given the number of passengers aboard the Eurodam it may be necessary for them to have more than just two evening dance venues of considerable size and action.

[Jade13]

I don't understand if they are just floor to ceiling windows or true verandah cabins... :confused: The cost is that of verandah, so one would think...

The "T's" are less than the Verandahs. They are being priced as "Outsides" (the highest priced outside cabins).

[bepsf]

New plan:-
http://www.revneal.org/Resources/eurodamsports2.jpg

They oughta change that plan again - It still shows a staircase in the middle-right of the Crows Nest/Explorations Cafe that goes nowhere...
(if it was a Vista, it would go down to the spa)

[jhannah]

Obviously a work in progress!

[RevNeal]

They oughta change that plan again - It still shows a staircase in the middle-right of the Crows Nest/Explorations Cafe that goes nowhere...
(if it was a Vista, it would go down to the spa)

LOL ... you're right.
At first I thought you were talking about the staff stairs in the middle.

Yes .... they need to fix that. As it is, they go down into SZ10005. :)
On a Vista they DO go down into an alcove just off the starboard side walk-way, outside the gym, leading to the forward observation area on the Lido deck.

[Copper10-8]

Some pics taken by Eurodam's Chief Officer Andre van Schoonhoven on the progress of the Lido deck mid-ship pool, the aft pool and Lido bar (midships). They are to be named Lido pool, Seaview Pool and Lido Bar respectively.

http://www.eurodamnews.com/images/lidopoolwater.jpg

Lido Pool

[Copper10-8]

http://www.eurodamnews.com/images/aftlidopool.jpg

Seaview Pool (the canopy is temporary) looking aft (towards the stern)

[Copper10-8]

http://www.eurodamnews.com/images/lidobar.jpg

Lido Bar (midships) which will be under the Magrodome

[PRINSENDAM]

They oughta change that plan again - It still shows a staircase in the middle-right of the Crows Nest/Explorations Cafe that goes nowhere...
(if it was a Vista, it would go down to the spa)




Hi Brian,

Have you ever heard the silly passenger ask, "Do these stairs go up or down?" ????????????????:rolleyes:

The small stairs in the Explorations actually go 'UP"!!!! They take you up to Deck 12. As far as I know it is there for safety reasons rather than for constant use between the internet cafe and the open deck above.

Stephen

[Copper10-8]

Pic of one of her azipods with propeller - check out the size of them puppies

http://www.eurodamnews.com/images/photo-azipods-installation.jpg

[RevNeal]

Have you ever heard the silly passenger ask, "Do these stairs go up or down?" ????????????????:rolleyes:

The small stairs in the Explorations actually go 'UP"!!!! They take you up to Deck 12. As far as I know it is there for safety reasons rather than for constant use between the internet cafe and the open deck above.

O Captain my Captain! Thanks! Looking at the Eurodam deckplans ... hmmm ... interesting that on the Vistas those stairs go DOWN, but on the Signature ship they go up. So ... there's an access hatch, or some-such, up on what should be the Sky deck? That deck won't be opened for passengers to sun themselves, etc., will it?

[bepsf]

Hi Brian,

Have you ever heard the silly passenger ask, "Do these stairs go up or down?" ????????????????:rolleyes:

The small stairs in the Explorations actually go 'UP"!!!! They take you up to Deck 12. As far as I know it is there for safety reasons rather than for constant use between the internet cafe and the open deck above.

Stephen

No Kidding!
That's a surprise - Thanks for the update!
:)

[bepsf]

That deck won't be opened for passengers to sun themselves, etc., will it?

Maybe HAL will put Private Cabanas with Butler Service up there like Oceania...

[PRINSENDAM]

O Captain my Captain! Thanks! Looking at the Eurodam deckplans ... hmmm ... interesting that on the Vistas those stairs go DOWN, but on the Signature ship they go up. So ... there's an access hatch, or some-such, up on what should be the Sky deck? That deck won't be opened for passengers to sun themselves, etc., will it?



Hallo Father Gregory!

These stairs are actually an escape exit from Crow's Nest... not sure if they will be in 'general use'. But the deck above will certainly be open for sun worshipers etc... just as on the other ships. The main access will be by stairs at the after end of the block. I just hope we don't get pa xin swimming grear prading through the Crow's Nest and Explorations. :mad:

Hope you are well and enjoying life.

Stephen

[PRINSENDAM]

Maybe HAL will put Private Cabanas with Butler Service up there like Oceania...


Hi Brian,

Shhhhhhhhhhhh! Don't give them any bad ideas.;)

You are talking about $$$$$$$$$$$. :eek:


Stephen

[Copper10-8]

Capt. Card; did you finish your paintings for Eurodam?? Since there has been no previous Eurodam, what ships did you pick? Are you taking the inaugural?

[PRINSENDAM]

Capt. Card; did you finish your paintings for Eurodam?? Since there has been no previous Eurodam, what ships did you pick? Are you taking the inaugural?


John,

You are asking me to disclose top secret information!!!!


OK.... here you are....

1. BLIJDENDYK heading up towards Maas Pilot c. 1952
2. RIJNDAM outbound past Pencarrow Heads, Wellington in 1966
3. ROTTERDAM and GRIPSHOLM at anchor Bermuda 1938
4. STATENDAM maiden arrival New York 1957
5. ZAANDYK off Wolf Rock Lighthouse c. 1909
6. EURODAM approaching de Wilhelminakade... not 2008!
7. tableaux Henry Hudson's HALVE MAEN
8. 4 pen & ink sketches misc ships

Not finished yet, some of the pieces are still in progress... about another 2 .... 2 1/2 months to do.

I'm afraid that I won't make it over for the EURODAM inaugural.

Stephen

[Copper10-8]

John,

You are asking me to disclose top secret information!!!!


OK.... here you are....

1. BLIJDENDYK heading up towards Maas Pilot c. 1952
2. RIJNDAM outbound past Pencarrow Heads, Wellington in 1966
3. ROTTERDAM and GRIPSHOLM at anchor Bermuda 1938
4. STATENDAM maiden arrival New York 1957
5. ZAANDYK off Wolf Rock Lighthouse c. 1909
6. EURODAM approaching de Wilhelminakade... not 2008!
7. tableaux Henry Hudson's HALVE MAEN
8. 4 pen & ink sketches misc ships

Not finished yet, some of the pieces are still in progress... about another 2 .... 2 1/2 months to do.

I'm afraid that I won't make it over for the EURODAM inaugural.

Stephen


Awesome!! Looking forward to seeing them; great variety! First time you did two of HAL's "dyk" freighters as primary, no? Did you happen to get Rotterdam's Euromast in the Eurodam and Wilhelminakade painting?

Too bad, you can't make the inaugural trip yourself!

[PRINSENDAM]

Awesome!! Looking forward to seeing them; great variety! First time you did two of HAL's "dyk" freighters as primary, no? Did you happen to get Rotterdam's Euromast in the Eurodam and Wilhelminakade painting?

Too bad, you can't make the inaugural trip yourself!



Euromast and half the SPIDO fleet! :rolleyes:

Still working on this one.

Would be fun to make the inaugural with you guys but between now and then I have a quickie on AMSTERDAM for 8 days then 55 days in SAGA ROSE... and in July QM2 and QV... followed by a month in SAGA RUBY. Not enough time I'm afraid.

But of course, you never know what might happen at the last minute. :cool:

Stephen

[RevNeal]

Hallo Father Gregory!

These stairs are actually an escape exit from Crow's Nest... not sure if they will be in 'general use'. But the deck above will certainly be open for sun worshipers etc... just as on the other ships. The main access will be by stairs at the after end of the block. I just hope we don't get pa xin swimming grear prading through the Crow's Nest and Explorations. :mad:

Hope you are well and enjoying life.

Thank you, Captain! I'm doing very well, indeed. And, thanks for the data on the Sky Deck (or whatever they're going to call it on the Eurodam). The reason why I ask is because it's not currently reflecting in the deck plans.

[RevNeal]

Would be fun to make the inaugural with you guys but between now and then I have a quickie on AMSTERDAM for 8 days then 55 days in SAGA ROSE... and in July QM2 and QV... followed by a month in SAGA RUBY. Not enough time I'm afraid.

But of course, you never know what might happen at the last minute. :cool:

I was hoping you would be aboard the Eurodam for the inaugural cruise! When in July and where will you be heading on the QM2 and QV?

[bepsf]

...and it's not Dutch Swimwear.
;)
http://www.spido.nl/foto/Normaal-Spido10.jpghttp://home.planet.nl/~piena008/cassie/images/R_SPIDO.JPG

[Copper10-8]

Hey Brian, the Euromast has a restaurant on top - excellent place to eat with a view. Spido offers harbor excursions and day trips down the Maas River to the Delta works at the mouth of the North Sea. http://www.spido.nl/default-site2.aspx?TaalID=2&MenuID=9&ID=9

Also that Chinese-looking boat in the background of your pic is a floating hotel/restaurant called the New Ocean Paradise hotel.

[bepsf]

Hey Brian, the Euromast has a restaurant on top - excellent place to eat with a view. Spido offers harbor excursions and day trips down the Maas River to the Delta works at the mouth of the North Sea. http://www.spido.nl/default-site2.aspx?TaalID=2&MenuID=9&ID=9

Also that Chinese-looking boat in the background of your pic is a floating hotel/restaurant called the New Ocean Paradise hotel.


Those places look visit-worthy...
;)

[Ine]

You know what is even better???????????????????
The Euromast nowadays has 2 bedrooms on the top!!!
You will never get a view like that. Not cheap, but very special.
http://www.euromast.nl/english/html/4-0.html

[Copper10-8]

You know what is even better???????????????????
The Euromast nowadays has 2 bedrooms on the top!!!
You will never get a view like that. Not cheap, but very special.
http://www.euromast.nl/english/html/4-0.html

Goeie avond Ine:) I'll get you an e-mail response to your questions today! Been kinda busy at work/new assignment for six months

So spending the night up there would qualify for the 1/2 mile high club:eek:

[PRINSENDAM]

I was hoping you would be aboard the Eurodam for the inaugural cruise! When in July and where will you be heading on the QM2 and QV?


Greg....

QUEEN MARY 2
NY to Southampton Dep 8 July Arr 14 July


QUEEN VICTORIA
Baltic cruise Dep 18 July Arr 1 August.
Southampton, Zeebrugge, Gdansk, Tallinn, St Petersburg, Helsinki
Stockholm, Copenhagen, Oslo, Southampton

QUEEN MARY 2
Southampton to NY Dep 1 August Arr 7 August


But the best is in September...

SAGA RUBY
Dep 15 Sept Arr 17 October
Southampton, Qaqortog (Greenland), Montreal, Quebec, Sydney NS,
New York, Newport, Boston, Portland, Bar Harbour, Halifax, Bay d'Espoir,
St Johns Ponta Delgada, Southampton.

FIFTEEN GLORIOUS (NORTH ATLANTIC) SEA DAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stephen

[PRINSENDAM]

...and it's not Dutch Swimwear.
;)




Brian,

You thought I misspelt SPEEDO? :D



BTW..... I hope any of you that are heading to Rotterdam to join Eurodam will fly over at least two or three days before the start of the cruise and take the time to enjoy the city and port of Rotterdam before sail. Rotterdam is the best port of your whole cruise!

If you want to 'live' a bit of HAL history... stay at the Hotel New York. Great play to stay. Funky rooms and a great bar/restaurant. Good barber shop in the basement too! Right next to the cruise terminal. Also visit the Prins Hendrik Maritime Museum. So many places to visit.... Delft, Kinderdijk........

If you guys got together you could even charter a minibus and get John to take you around. Please make the most of it!

Stephen

[jhannah]

FIFTEEN GLORIOUS (NORTH ATLANTIC) SEA DAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wow! That should be some real adventure that time of year!

[PRINSENDAM]

Wow! That should be some real adventure that time of year!


I know, smack in the middle of hurricane season!

Stephen

[RuthC]

But the best is in September...

SAGA RUBY
Dep 15 Sept Arr 17 October
Southampton, Qaqortog (Greenland), Montreal, Quebec, Sydney NS,
New York, Newport, Boston, Portland, Bar Harbour, Halifax, Bay d'Espoir,
St Johns Ponta Delgada, Southampton.

FIFTEEN GLORIOUS (NORTH ATLANTIC) SEA DAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Fabulous itinerary! Were it not for the E-dam inaugural this girl could get very interested.

[RuthC]

Those places look visit-worthy...
;)
Brian, the Spido harbour tour is quite interesting. I enjoyed it and would recommend it. It's amazing how busy the port looks from the water.

[bepsf]

QUEEN MARY 2
NY to Southampton Dep 8 July Arr 14 July


QUEEN VICTORIA
Baltic cruise Dep 18 July Arr 1 August.
Southampton, Zeebrugge, Gdansk, Tallinn, St Petersburg, Helsinki
Stockholm, Copenhagen, Oslo, Southampton

QUEEN MARY 2
Southampton to NY Dep 1 August Arr 7 August


But the best is in September...

SAGA RUBY
Dep 15 Sept Arr 17 October
Southampton, Qaqortog (Greenland), Montreal, Quebec, Sydney NS,
New York, Newport, Boston, Portland, Bar Harbour, Halifax, Bay d'Espoir,
St Johns Ponta Delgada, Southampton.

FIFTEEN GLORIOUS (NORTH ATLANTIC) SEA DAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stephen

Does that mean you're going to fly East across the Atlantic?
Why???

[bepsf]

BTW..... I hope any of you that are heading to Rotterdam to join Eurodam will fly over at least two or three days before the start of the cruise and take the time to enjoy the city and port of Rotterdam before sail. Rotterdam is the best port of your whole cruise!

If you want to 'live' a bit of HAL history... stay at the Hotel New York. Great play to stay. Funky rooms and a great bar/restaurant. Good barber shop in the basement too! Right next to the cruise terminal. Also visit the Prins Hendrik Maritime Museum. So many places to visit.... Delft, Kinderdijk........

If you guys got together you could even charter a minibus and get John to take you around. Please make the most of it!

Stephen

Yes, I think most of us are planning to arrive at least a couple days pre-christening to do some land-touring.
I only wish the hotel on Rotterdam V would be ready to receive us by then...
:(

[PRINSENDAM]

Does that mean you're going to fly East across the Atlantic?
Why???


Damn good question Brian!

It is either east from Sydney to LA, to NY, to London :-(

or Sydney to Singapore to London :-( :-( :-(

Either way it is a long time in the 'tube'. Of course it is just possible that we will be in Bermuda so it is an 'easy' 6 hours to Gatwick.

I can't think of any ship heading over to Europe in September? QM2 does but we will be doing her in July and you sure don't expect me to sail in the 'Big Black Bus again' so soon?

Stephen

[Copper10-8]

Capt., if you're passing through LAX, please advise

[PRINSENDAM]

Capt., if you're passing through LAX, please advise


John....

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. :mad:

We passed through LA at the end of October on our way back to Sydney from VENDAM. . Spent three great days on board QUEEN MARY! We bailed out the evening of Haloween. Just as well. It looked like it was going to be a wild party down there.

Stephen

[Ine]

Depending on the weather we hope to drive to Rotterdam on Dec. 12.
The Queen Victoria and the QE II are expected in port.
Great opportunity for photos.

Another interesting place to visit in Rotterdam is the Maritiem Museum. They have a special "Holland-America Lijn" section.
http://www.maritiemmuseum.nl/website/

[PRINSENDAM]

Depending on the weather we hope to drive to Rotterdam on Dec. 12.
The Queen Victoria and the QE II are expected in port.
Great opportunity for photos.

Another interesting place to visit in Rotterdam is the Maritiem Museum. They have a special "Holland-America Lijn" section.
http://www.maritiemmuseum.nl/website/


Ine,

Are both QV and QE2 berthing on de Wilhelminakade? That will be a sight to see. Still, the sight won't be half as beautiful as it was in the 1960s when ROTTERDAM and NIEUW AMSTERDAM could be seen together!

Stephen

[Copper10-8]

Ine and her hubby Ton take some really great pics of cruise ships coming down the Noordzeekanaal from Amsterdam on the way to the locks of IJmuiden. They live really close to the canal. Quite a collection. If there's good pics to be had in Rotterdam on the 12th, they will get them!

[Ine]

Ine,

Are both QV and QE2 berthing on de Wilhelminakade? That will be a sight to see. Still, the sight won't be half as beautiful as it was in the 1960s when ROTTERDAM and NIEUW AMSTERDAM could be seen together!

Stephen

Yes they both will be there.
QE II from 8.00am till 5.00pm
Victoria from 10.00am - 600 pm.
If I understood right the ship has been dedicated the day or 2 days before in GB by Camilla.
We hope to drive to Rotterdam and make some photos. If so I will put them on-line.
Hopefully the weather will be nice. (the last few and coming days are stormy, rainy, cold,...real awful dutch weather..)

When Oosterdam was dedicated both Oosterdam and Rotterdam were there, also a great view. I remember the old days when ships were there often. After years of just "nothing" at the quay there, Rotterdam has made a start again as cruise-harbor, although Amsterdam still beats them.
(Yes John, still Amsterdam against Rotterdam, Ajax - Feyenoord etc.)

[Ine]

Goeie avond Ine:) I'll get you an e-mail response to your questions today! Been kinda busy at work/new assignment for six months

So spending the night up there would qualify for the 1/2 mile high club:eek:



Is it going to be a Sinterklaas rijm?
Still waiting, but no hurry.

[Copper10-8]

Latest pic of Eurodam with Queen Victoria about to move out in the background

http://www.eurodamnews.com/images/eurodamdec3.jpg

[Druke I]

As we both know, the North Atlantic is not always rough.

We did a Dover/NYC via Ireland, Iceland, Greenland, & Newfoundland on the late great Royal Princess (now P&O's Artemis) late Aug/early Sep 98, and it was quite smooth except for a little chop over Titanic's resting place.

We did hit a lot of fog off Newfoundland.

[Ine]

As mentioned before today we drove to Rotterdam to see Queen Victoria on her 1st trip and 1st official stop.
The ship looks beautiful.
It is docked at the same place where Eurodam will be on July 1st.
I have (of many we made) some photos online on:
http://s73.photobucket.com/albums/i208/Inevd/Queen%20Victoria%20in%20Rotterdam/?

At the moment the ship is still there for a short while, check the webcam on:
http://www.virtualvisit.nl/webcam/index.htm

QE II was in port too, but unfortunately at a different dock in Waalhaven. I think the quay was too small for 2 big ships, although they did it with the dedication of Oosterdam when also Rotterdam was there and both ships were docked nose to nose.

[jhannah]

Excellent pictures, Ine. Thanks for sharing them!

[RevNeal]

Thank you so much for these photos! The Queen Victoria is a lovely ship and I look forward to cruising aboard her someday (hopefully not too far in the distant future).

[Vic The Parrot]

Thank you so much for these photos! The Queen Victoria is a lovely ship and I look forward to cruising aboard her someday (hopefully not too far in the distant future).



Hi there, Greg



QV is a nice ship ... I hope to step aboard soon as well!
But, you have to sail on QM2 first. She's one of a kind! ;)

[bepsf]

Thank you so much for these photos! The Queen Victoria is a lovely ship and I look forward to cruising aboard her someday (hopefully not too far in the distant future).

I was shocked to read that - nice as QV appears to be - that she has fewer drawerspace in her verandah staterooms, metal and mesh furniture on her verandahs, and no teak on her Promenade Deck!!!

[RevNeal]

But, you have to sail on QM2 first. She's one of a kind! ;)

Oh, I'm sure I will.

[RevNeal]

I was shocked to read that - nice as QV appears to be - that she has fewer drawerspace in her verandah staterooms, metal and mesh furniture on her verandahs, and no teak on her Promenade Deck!!!

AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!
When in trouble, or in doubt, run-in-circles, scream-and-shout!!:eek:
AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!

[Copper10-8]

Sketch of the design of the dining room ceiling sculpture
http://www.eurodamnews.com/images/Diningroom-ceiling.jpg
Sketch of the design of the atrium’s floral ceiling
sculpture.

http://www.eurodamnews.com/images/Atrium-ceiling.jpg

[Copper10-8]

Dutch Chairs for a Dutch Cruise Ship (http://www.eurodamnews.com/2007/12/14/dutch-chairs-for-a-dutch-cruise-ship/)

William Schuitema poses with an armchair (left), designed by NB-Seattle that will be used in Eurodam’s cabins, the chair in the middle was designed by Frans Dingemans and further developed by Frits Schuitema and used on Zuiderdam, and the art deco chair on the right also was designed by Frits Schuitema and used on Carnival Pride.

http://www.eurodamnews.com/images/Best-of-Europe.jpg

[RuthC]

Can't say I'm overly fond of the look of the chairs, but they won't be in my house and as long as they do the job they're ok with me.

I do love the look of the ceilings! :)

Thanks for the pictures, John.

[InTheWASide]

The middle chair is the same as those on Zuiderdam so I DON'T think they'll be on Eurodam.

The ones on the left may be some of the stateroom chairs depicted in the concepts of the rooms.

On the right... never seen it... but it looks Asian... so maybe the Silk Den Bar or Tamarind?

[InTheWASide]

Zuiderdam Dining Room

http://www.hollandamerica.com/images/fleet/zu/img_rotterdam_dining_room.jpg

[RevNeal]

The middle chair is the same as those on Zuiderdam so I DON'T think they'll be on Eurodam.

It's also the same as the dining room chairs aboard the Oosterdam, Westerdam, and Noordam. Given that the Signature Class ship (i.e., Eurodam) is just an upgraded Vista, I don't see why that middle chair won't be in the dining room aboard the Eurodam.

[InTheWASide]

Hi greg,

I meant that same design and pattern.

Noordam is more yellow:
http://www.hollandamerica.com/images/fleet/no/img_vista_dining_room.jpg


Oosterdam (Can't find a picture) has a beige and red criss cross pattern on the backs, with red seats

Westerdam has a copper/yellow seat with a a black/grey over yellow pattern on the back)
http://www.hollandamerica.com/images/fleet/we/img_vista_dining.jpg

I understand the DESIGN is the same and only fabrics have changed but we have now seen two concepts for the dining room that show a different SHAPE of chair...
One is above (btw, I had posted the pictures of the dining room and atrium concepts MONTHS ago in a long since buried thread) and the other (which I also posted previously) is here:

[InTheWASide]

Didn't post for some reason. Trying again...

Since both indicate the same design (but different than the Vistas) I would imagine that this is a new chair for the Eurodam

[sail7seas]

I love that chair on the right! Enjoyed reading the piece about the chair makers that is on the Blog.

[RevNeal]

Hmmm ... interesting.

The two sketches of the dining room show chairs that look a little more like the seats in the main dining room aboard the Volendam and the Zaandam.

The blog itself indicates that the chair in the middle is from the Zuiderdam.

[RevNeal]

Hi greg,

I meant that same design and pattern.

Oh ... you mean the material of and design on the upholstery and back covering. The chair structure is still same chair structure on all the Vistas.

It would appear they're going to use a completely different chair design on the Eurodam.

[jhannah]

Check out the Eurodam Blog. The dining room has risers all around to elevate the tables next to the windows.

http://www.eurodamnews.com/images/eurodamdiningroom2.jpg

[x lindsay x]

Check out the Eurodam Blog. The dining room has risers all around to elevate the tables next to the windows.


I just noticed this on the blog. How does everyone feel about this? Will it obscure the view of those tables not directly next to the windows?

[jhannah]

Good question. Probably not by much, but with the table being farther above the bottom of the window there will be some blockage of view.

[jhannah]

Remember seeing pictures of all those dials, screens, levers, buttons, and toggle switches on the bridge consoles? Well, every one of them has to be connected to something, somewhere.

http://www.eurodamnews.com/images/bridge1.jpg

Gadzooks!!!

[Copper10-8]

Remember seeing pictures of all those dials, screens, levers, buttons, and toggle switches on the bridge consoles? Well, every one of them has to be connected to something, somewhere.



Gadzooks!!!

God bless electricians! Looks like a bunch of spaghetti:eek:

[Copper10-8]

Latest pic of Eurodam's stern or rear end with aft balconies
http://www.holland-america.nl/nieuws/images/photo-eurodam-108aft.jpg

[Ine]

They have less then 5 months to be ready ....

[Ine]

Board was slow and I was impatient....

[PRINSENDAM]

Latest pic of Eurodam's stern or rear end with aft balconies
http://www.holland-america.nl/nieuws/images/photo-eurodam-108aft.jpg


John,

Ah! I spot something 'new'.....

Not the pan asian restaurant or the extended decks aft....

Can you see it?

Stephen

[jhannah]

The railing on the upper deck?

[Copper10-8]

John,

Ah! I spot something 'new'.....

Not the pan asian restaurant or the extended decks aft....

Can you see it?

Stephen

Capt, you're not referring to her being registered in Nassau are you? Or her rudders sticking out of the water, the "hook-up" mark near the water line on her aft starboard side?

[PRINSENDAM]

Capt, you're not referring to her being registered in Nassau are you? Or her rudders sticking out of the water, the "hook-up" mark near the water line on her aft starboard side?





RUDDERS???!!!!!:eek:

John,

Better not be!

Nope, none of the above nor the railings Jim mentioned.

Stephen