Vatican tours?

[lovetocruise444]

Is it best to do the Vatican with a tour guide or on your own?

[rich8468]

We went last July. The Vatican offers a limited number of English guided tours each day at 10:30 a.m., noon and 2:00 p.m. You can arrange for it through the Vatican Website under "Info Museums", "Visitor Services", "Guided Tours" although it involves a fax process that in turn requires that you have a hotel fax in Rome to receive the confirmation which leaves things a little too up in the air for me. My wife and I were traveling with our two boys (ages 8 and 16) and wanted things to be as pre-arranged as possible. I booked it through "Italian Adventures" on the web at www.goporta.com (http://www.goporta.com). They charge a 5 euro a ticket service charge but it was worth it. They coordinated the whole process with the Vatican and we got our tour well ahead of our trip. The cost for the tour (last year) at the Vatican was 23.50 Euro for adults and 18.50 Euro for children. This is payable at the Vatican the day of the tour. Italian Adventures indicated that it would be the adult rate for each of us but the Vatican charged us the right rates when we got there.

So why do this....it was an extremely hot day and the lines were very long. People said that it took 2-1/2 to 3 hours to get in which would have killed us. We bypassed the entire line and went to the entrance where a guard had our names on a list and sent us right in. Tour was 2+ hours and was very good. Use the same approach at the Colosseum either through Italian Adventures or right on the web (as of this fall) from the Colosseum.

[sun&sea]

We went last July. The Vatican offers a limited number of English guided tours each day at 10:30 a.m., noon and 2:00 p.m. You can arrange for it through the Vatican Website under "Info Museums", "Visitor Services", "Guided Tours" although it involves a fax process that in turn requires that you have a hotel fax in Rome to receive the confirmation which leaves things a little too up in the air for me. My wife and I were traveling with our two boys (ages 8 and 16) and wanted things to be as pre-arranged as possible. I booked it through "Italian Adventures" on the web at www.goporta.com (http://www.goporta.com). They charge a 5 euro a ticket service charge but it was worth it. They coordinated the whole process with the Vatican and we got our tour well ahead of our trip. The cost for the tour (last year) at the Vatican was 23.50 Euro for adults and 18.50 Euro for children. This is payable at the Vatican the day of the tour. Italian Adventures indicated that it would be the adult rate for each of us but the Vatican charged us the right rates when we got there.

So why do this....it was an extremely hot day and the lines were very long. People said that it took 2-1/2 to 3 hours to get in which would have killed us. We bypassed the entire line and went to the entrance where a guard had our names on a list and sent us right in. Tour was 2+ hours and was very good. Use the same approach at the Colosseum either through Italian Adventures or right on the web (as of this fall) from the Colosseum.

Rich8468,
How many were in your group?

[rich8468]

There were 4 of us but the entire tour group at the Vatican was around 10-12. The tour guide provided by the Vatican was excellent. She used headsets. They also had a special waiting area with seating for us as the tour got organized. The tour focused on some key parts of the collection (ancient sculptures, Raphael Rooms and the Sistine Chapel). The museum was very crowded so the headsets were really essential.

[karrie]

I know there is a back door in the Sistene chapel that leads to a shortcut to St Peters.Did you have to go all the way back to the beginning of the museum to return the headsets or did the guide take them so you could use the shortcut?
Thanks, Karrie

[CruisinHalibuts]

Is it best to do the Vatican with a tour guide or on your own?


I had this same question prior to our trip this past June. If there is one bit of excellent advice that I can give-it's book a tour for Vatican City. There were four of us and an english speaking driver picked us up at our apartment and drove us directly to Vatican City. There was a line wrapped around Vatican City to enter. We bypassed all lines and had an excellent tour.

Don't risk waiting in line for hours to possibly not get in.

[Balliett]

If you have money to burn, you can arrange an after hours, two+ hours tour of the vatican museum. You will be all alone in there, maybe 25 people, four guides, four guards. Includes Sistine Chapel. Yes, bloody expensive, like $525 US pp. Still, something you won't forget. Reference is Helen Donegan, google or +349 4979416. Just a few days a month, apparently.

[Phynger]

In reading Rick Steves and many threads on CC, I'm still confused. if we set up a tour guide to get in at 8:15AM (does the tour guide go with us, or just get us in without lines?), tour the Vatican and Sistine Chapel (with specific guide books), don't take audio guides so we can take the short cut to St. Peter's B., where does the "Scavi tour" come into all of this? do we still need to fax request it?
Thanks for your anticipated help!
Mike

[dkbustr]

Hello Mike,

The Scavi tour is completely seperate from the Vatican tour of the museum, and of St. Peters. You have to email the excavations office at the Vatican to request a time for the Scavi tour. The tours are only 10-12 individuals and only at limited times, so you need to email as soon as possible. I emailed them in August for a tour in April 2008, and just heard back on Monday that we were in !! I hope to arrange the Vatican tour for 10:30am the same day, and make a full day of it.

Good luck and if you need the excavation office's email, put a note on here...it is also on the Vatican website, under excavations office.

Mike

[tomko2]

We had a wonderful tour which we booked through Tickitaly. The price was 78Euros for two of us. The Tour included the Vatican Museums, Sistine Chapel and St. Peter's Basilica. Tour started at 8:30 and finished around 11:30. Our guide Ms. Valentina is an art historian and her Mother worked on the restoration of the Sistine Chapel. Groups must use the "Whisper" headphones which worked very well. We would highly recommend this tour.
In addition, we booked our tickets for the Colosseum through Tickitaly for 32 Euros (for two of us). These tickets only provide admittance however we had no wait time at all! We just walked past everyone in line and went to the wicket indicated to us by Tickitaly. In August the line-ups were quite long so this was well worth the few extra Euros.:)
Kathy

[Phynger]

Hi Mike-
Thanks for the info. on the scavi tour.:) I e-mailed the other day. We'll see what happens. Do you think I should FAX too?
Should I wait for the response/time before trying to set up the Museum tour, etc.? We also need to "do it all in one day" on Saturday, as it's closed on Sunday and we'll do the ancient Rome area that day (just there fri & Sat). Do you feel it's necessary and an advantage to use a tour co., or are you just scheduled thru the Vatican?
Regards,
Mike

[mad4mky]

Personally--I was glad we had booked a tour. There is soooo much to see there--and if you really don't know what you are looking at, who did the art work, I think it can be confusing.

We used Odyssey Tours. We had a GREAT guide. Eva. A petite Irish woman who was amazingly knowledgeable about the wonderous works of art in the Vatican.
The tour was to be only a little over two hours, but she kept with us for 4 hours.
She even went in search of my husband who walked out the wrong exit door from The Sistine Chapel in error. She was so worried he wouldn't find us again.

There were only 8 people on our tour--and that made the group manageable--and very easy to hear her. The tour wasn't expensive--only 40 E pp, plus the price to get into the Vatican. We tipped her well, as we thought she was a great guide. :D

[Phynger]

We just rec'd notice that we got our Scavi tour rez!:) 9:15 AM on 7/12/08. Thanks for your help! I think we need to allow 2 hrs. for that? Is that right? According to Rick Steves' Rome, on Sat. the Vatican Museum Tour closes at 1:45PM!? With Vatican guide tours at 10:30 and 12:00. So, should we 1) reserve the 12:00PM Vatican guide tour?, 2) book an outside tour co.?, or 3) do it oruselves with the Rick Steves (or other) guide book?
Any input from experienced Vatican tourist would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Mike

[Phynger]

I found out that the Scavi tour goes later on Saturdays than does the Vatican Museum tour!? So, we were able to get our 9:15AM Scavi rez changed to 1:45PM. Therefore, i think we'll try for the 10:30AM Vatican Tour. Maybe a quick lunch between the two? As this is our first time, any input from experienced folks would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Mike

[Candymanjim]

I want to do it on my own. Found this audio tour to play on our own MP3 players. I have read great reviews on the "sister" tour. Has anyone done this?

http://www.artineraries.com/


As fat as getting your own tickets and avoiding hte lines, you can do this on your own, without a tour group. It appears they do this in other Italy stops as well. Has anyone used them?

http://www.viator.com/Rome/d511/vatican-tours (http://www.viator.com/Rome/d511/vatican-tours)

Jim

[Phynger]

As mentioned above, we have Scavi tix for 1:45PM. We would like to tour the Vatican Museum et al in the morning. We faxed for tix there too; but, were told that we would need to "wait until 30 days prior to visit". We'd like to tour it on our own; but, we don't want to stand in lines. Any thoughts from the experienced travelers out there? Should we take a chance and wait on getting tix from the Vatican within 30 days? Or, should we go with another "service" and will that guarantee us entrance and no lines!?
Thanks in advance for your input.
Mike

[texancruzer]

I completely agree with the above posters - GET A GUIDE.

We hired a private guide for the two of us..... 1 guide - 2 people. It was 90 euros per person but worth every penny. We used Angel Tours of Rome and had Eileen as our guide. She is from Ireland and has an Art History degree among others. She knew soooo many things not in the books or anywhere else. She answered a gazillion questions for me and made this tour informative and fun.

She also went with us to lunch at a pizzeria she knew and then taxied with us to the Coliseum/Forum/Palantine Hill for a tour there. Again, another 90 euros per person. Again.....worth every penny.

We only had the one day to really sightsee - even tho we stayed 2 nights precruise (got in late one night and day after headed to port to board ship) so I wanted to squeeze out as much as I could. We did not stand in line.....she knew where the "shortcuts" were etc.... We did walk around alot on our own (Spanish steps, Trevi fountain etc.).

I hope to get back to Rome someday.....but if I don't I know I saw as much as I could in one day while I was there.

[omr]

We used Angel tours and was very happy with the tour. Eileen was our guide. We were in a group of about 15 people. Best of all the price of only 25 euros per person included the vatican tickets and the tour.

[Susan-M]

I want to do it on my own. Found this audio tour to play on our own MP3 players. I have read great reviews on the "sister" tour. Has anyone done this?

http://www.artineraries.com/




It sounds interesting....but with the museum having over 1400 rooms, and shoulder to shoulder visitors, I think you would need a good sense of direction and a lot of time! Sticking close to a guide and seeing the highlights in a couple of hours works well. :)

[3girls]

We faxed in a request on The Holy See...the Vatican website. It worked out beautifully. See....
http://mv.vatican.va/3_EN/pages/z-Info/MV_Info_Servizi_Visite.html

Very reasonably priced. We were taken in the back door and bypassed the long lines. It was a great tour!

[globalnomads]

With so much to see at the Vatican and so little time to completely cover it all, I decided to hire a guide. This was for our family of 4, including 2 teens. One of the best decisions for the entire Med. cruise!

We used Scot McFiggen, co-owner and guide of Vatican Art Walks for our day in Rome last summer. He was very adept at picking out what would interest us all and kept the kids totally engaged. This was true not only in the Vatican (where we had no wait and those headsets to hear what he said) but all over the city's highlights.

[funkylady]

Is it best to do the Vatican with a tour guide or on your own?
Just to share our experience with you ......
We (family of four) visited the Vatican museums in the middle of January. There were absolutely no queues-we walked straight in. We spent two hours here and in the Sistine chapel altogether (without a guide) but felt we needed a whole afternoon really. The freedom to see exactly what we wanted to see was good but it was like a purely sensory walk-we were so blown away by everything that we couldn't concentrate on consulting our book ('Masterpieces of the Vatican'-you can buy this inside the museum) for information. We decided to soak it all up and consult the book together when we had more time - this proved a good tactic for our children-trying to get them to research beforehand is impossible!!
We were approached by a very friendly guide outside the museum in St.Peter's square who was willing to take us around for 25 euros each adult (excluding the entrance fee) but we didn't want to be constrained by this.:)

[outandabout]

We faxed in a request on The Holy See...the Vatican website. It worked out beautifully. See....
http://mv.vatican.va/3_EN/pages/z-Info/MV_Info_Servizi_Visite.html

Very reasonably priced. We were taken in the back door and bypassed the long lines. It was a great tour!


May I ask how much is "reasonably priced"? Does the price include the guide and the ticket? There are other tour guides out there but I'm looking for the most reasonably priced. Thanks.

[Susan-M]

May I ask how much is "reasonably priced"? Does the price include the guide and the ticket? There are other tour guides out there but I'm looking for the most reasonably priced. Thanks.

23.50E pp, including admission and tour of the Vatican Museums, entrance to the Sistine Chapel and St. Peter's. This is the site we used (booked ahead by fax) ... and I believe it is the 'official' Vatican Museum website.

[funkylady]

23.50E pp, including admission and tour of the Vatican Museums, entrance to the Sistine Chapel and St. Peter's. This is the site we used (booked ahead by fax) ... and I believe it is the 'official' Vatican Museum website.
Sounds like the wandering guide in St. Peter's square i spoke of in previous post was heavily over-priced. Glad we went on our own!

[funkylady]

..forgot to say, for anyones's information, that the entrance ticket to Vatican museums is 14 euro.

[Susan-M]

Sounds like the wandering guide in St. Peter's square i spoke of in previous post was heavily over-priced. Glad we went on our own!

..forgot to say, for anyones's information, that the entrance ticket to Vatican museums is 14 euro.

The 'wandering' guide's fee of 25E pp plus entrance fee of 14E does sound high compared to the total cost of 23.5E for entrance and a guided tour by a Vatican guide, but it's probably not out of line for a private guided tour. And if he was including a guided tour through St. Peters that would be a bonus, as with the Vatican tour, you aren't accompanied by a guide there.

We did the Vatican tour and felt that it was pretty reasonably priced.:)

[chrysalis]

We went last July. The Vatican offers a limited number of English guided tours each day at 10:30 a.m., noon and 2:00 p.m. You can arrange for it through the Vatican Website under "Info Museums", "Visitor Services", "Guided Tours" although it involves a fax process that in turn requires that you have a hotel fax in Rome to receive the confirmation which leaves things a little too up in the air for me. My wife and I were traveling with our two boys (ages 8 and 16) and wanted things to be as pre-arranged as possible. I booked it through "Italian Adventures" on the web at www.goporta.com (http://www.goporta.com). They charge a 5 euro a ticket service charge but it was worth it. They coordinated the whole process with the Vatican and we got our tour well ahead of our trip. The cost for the tour (last year) at the Vatican was 23.50 Euro for adults and 18.50 Euro for children. This is payable at the Vatican the day of the tour. Italian Adventures indicated that it would be the adult rate for each of us but the Vatican charged us the right rates when we got there.

So why do this....it was an extremely hot day and the lines were very long. People said that it took 2-1/2 to 3 hours to get in which would have killed us. We bypassed the entire line and went to the entrance where a guard had our names on a list and sent us right in. Tour was 2+ hours and was very good. Use the same approach at the Colosseum either through Italian Adventures or right on the web (as of this fall) from the Colosseum.

we used this service, also....well worth the small fee, and it worked perfectly for us.

[texancruzer]

FYI: The key here is to remember to compare apples to apples ~ and oranges to oranges.

A guided GROUP TOUR will be less than a guided PRIVATE TOUR.

Some include the admission price and some do not.

Some include the museums, Sistine chapel & St. Peters - and some do not

When reading some of these posts it is easy to misunderstand what exactly each poster got for their $$$.

I think that most people who come back and post an unhappy review were really just expecting one thing (an apple) for the price of another (an orange) :D

Same goes for "tours" some are just drivers who will drive you around but are not guides. Alot of places in Europe license their guides.....

So again.....compare carefully and remember "you get what you pay for" because "if it sounds too good to be true....."

[lrtucci]

I have been to the Vatican Museums numerous times, in groups, on my own with or without guides...while it's purely subjective, here are my thoughts:

- Live guides are good, but are not allowed to truly offer explanation in the Sistine Chapel-so you see groups huddled outside or around, and looking at book pages before going in. If you're having a personal tour, great. But, if you're part of a large group, you usually can't see everything.

- Audioguide of the museums is factual, written by historians and are unlike the audioguides in U.S. or UK Museums...sure, they'll provide an explanation, but nothing memorable.

- The Sister Wendy Tour by Artineraries, aside from covering the entire route to the Sistine Chapel, covers the entire chapel, front to finish. She is an amazing orator, and, I got goosebumps (as do my visitors). Not only that, she carries on to the St. Peter's Square and Basilica...it's an amazing thing and feels like your own personalized tour.
I would highly recommend it.





I want to do it on my own. Found this audio tour to play on our own MP3 players. I have read great reviews on the "sister" tour. Has anyone done this?

http://www.artineraries.com/


As fat as getting your own tickets and avoiding hte lines, you can do this on your own, without a tour group. It appears they do this in other Italy stops as well. Has anyone used them?

http://www.viator.com/Rome/d511/vatican-tours (http://www.viator.com/Rome/d511/vatican-tours)

Jim

[Angiem]

Does a tour of the vatican museum include a look at the former Pope's chambers? I don't know what tour would include this. Can anyone help.

Angie

[da.pooh]

the vatican website now says $29.50 per person, with 23.50 'reduced'. Did you qualify for the reduced rate (or maybe the tour charge went up)?

[ggartner]

We just returned from Rome; did a tour with Angel Tours for the Vatican. A little humor and a lot of history. I would not recommend touring without a guide. On Sunday, we walked past a line, five people wide, and three hundred yards long, to come to a line for guides that was 150 feet long. Our wait was 15 minutes. The people in line must have had 1 and 1/2 to 2 hour wait. Don't consider going without unless you have an unlimited time budget.

[CrucianGal]

We were just at the Vatican this past Saturday. We had purchased the skip the line tickets without a tour from Viatour. I am so glad we had our tickets ahead of time. The regular line was a 2 hour wait to get tickets. We decided to tour without a guide. We had a guide book, but you can also rent headsets for self guided tours once inside. It just depends how much you want to know about each piece in the museum. My recommendation is don't wait to buy your tickets until you get there. You will spend too much time in line. Either go with a guide or buy tickets for a "skip the line" self guided tour.

[Angiem]

ggartner I thought the Vatican was closed on Sunday? Is that correct?

Angie

[Susan-M]

ggartner I thought the Vatican was closed on Sunday? Is that correct?

Angie

It's open on the last Sunday of each month...with free admission (and long lines!): http://mv.vatican.va/3_EN/pages/z-Info/MV_Info_Orario.html