Please change the abbreviation HAL

[Aandark]

This abbreviation creeps me out. If you've ever seen 2001 A Space Oddesey you will understand why. If you haven't seen the movie allow me to explain...There is a supercomputer that is designed to learn from it's programmers and users, this computer is put on a space craft and the name of the computer is HAL...well as an AI device it learns to think on it's own...and starts killing people as a matter of self preservation. So...everytime I see the name HAL on these boards I flash back to that strange movie (Other things take place in the movie...It's a really philosophical look at life and what it means to be "Human").

[sail7seas]

I seriously doubt there's even a teeny chance Holland America Line has any plans to change the company name so we will continue to see HAL. Try compartmentalizing it...... :)

[earl_m]

They have been using this name for over 150 years, I don' see them changing now.

[hammybee]

I consider myself a HAL Pal and I am quite harmless.:eek:

[Aandark]

Seems that some people on this thread have a bad case of the Mondays. I don't really expect them to change the name...I was just sharing my cognitive process when I see the name HAL on the boards. Sorry if it ruined your week.

[Boytjie]

This abbreviation creeps me out. If you've ever seen 2001 A Space Oddesey you will understand why. If you haven't seen the movie allow me to explain...There is a supercomputer that is designed to learn from it's programmers and users, this computer is put on a space craft and the name of the computer is HAL...well as an AI device it learns to think on it's own...and starts killing people as a matter of self preservation. So...everytime I see the name HAL on these boards I flash back to that strange movie (Other things take place in the movie...It's a really philosophical look at life and what it means to be "Human").

Go forward one letter on HAL and what do you get? IBM.

Gotta change that too - it's too scary. :eek:

[jtl513]

"I can't let you do that, Dave."

"Would you like to hear me sing a song? Daisy, Daisy, give me your answer do ...."

Too bad we can't put sound clips on here. I sure can "hear" those parts though!! :D

[hammybee]

I don't really expect them to change the name...I was just sharing my cognitive process when I see the name HAL on the boards.

Yet, the title of the thread was...........

Thank you for sharing what it means to you. I appreciate the different perspective.

[hammybee]

"I can't let you do that, Dave."

"Would you like to hear me sing a song? Daisy, Daisy, give me your answer do ...."

Too bad we can't put sound clips on here. I sure can "hear" those parts though!! :D

Who is Dave?

[jhannah]

Dave was the astronaut who had the conversation with HAL.

I can still hear the tone and timbre of HAL's voice! Spooky.

But my week isn't ruined. ;)

[Joanandjoe]

We've tried to delete all memories of "2001-a Space Odyssey" from our memory banks. Neither of us understood that crazy movie, and I've been a life long sci-fi fan.

Almost any acronym can stand for more than one thing.

[cactuslady]

There, there. In the end, Dave won -- HAL didn't.
Anyway, that was 40 years ago, so even if Dave didn't prevail, the tin whiskers would have taken HAL out years ago.

The classic antidote for Frankenstein movie heebie-jeebies was "Young Frankenstein." Worked for me. Perhaps the cure here would be a few episodes of "Lost in Space."

Now if they can just figure out something to make clowns not so scary . . . .

[prescottbob]

http://www.acronymfinder.com/af-query.asp?acronym=hal&string=exact&s=r&page=1

Bon Voyage and Good Health!
Bob:)

[Aandark]

We've tried to delete all memories of "2001-a Space Odyssey" from our memory banks. Neither of us understood that crazy movie, and I've been a life long sci-fi fan.

Almost any acronym can stand for more than one thing.


That movie was dreadful...no...Painful to watch. If I were a Philosophy Major, I would probably love it. It's more about the arguement of "What is the line between animal and man...and what is the line between object and Human." When can things think and when do they operate on instinct and programming. It would have been a much better movie...if they would have taken about 45 minutes out of the middle and left it on the cutting room floor.

[haligonian37]

Now if they can just figure out something to make clowns not so scary . . . .

I don't think that's possible....

[sail7seas]

Seems that some people on this thread have a bad case of the Mondays. I don't really expect them to change the name...I was just sharing my cognitive process when I see the name HAL on the boards. Sorry if it ruined your week.

It most assuredly didn't ruin my week; it didn't ruin my minute. :D


As we can't hear any humor in your voice from your post, you couldn't hear sarcasm in my voice from my post.

How could I possibly be anything but delirious today? I'm from Boston.

Did you happen to catch the Patriots' score yesterday: 52 -7!!!!


Oh yah.... Something else happened great yesterday for Boston. :)

Did 'cha happen to hear about those 'dam' RED SOX
Seems they went and won themselves a World Series Championship last night.

Bad case of the Mondays?? Huh..... :D Nope. I dooooon't thiiiiink so. ;)

[terrydtx]

It most assuredly didn't ruin my week; it didn't ruin my minute. :D


As we can't hear any humor in your voice from your post, you couldn't hear sarcasm in my voice from my post.

How could I possibly be anything but delirious today? I'm from Boston.

Did you happen to catch the Patriots' score yesterday: 52 -7!!!!


Oh yah.... Something else happened great yesterday for Boston. :)

Did 'cha happen to hear about those 'dam' RED SOX
Seems they went and won themselves a World Series Championship last night.

Bad case of the Mondays?? Huh..... :D Nope. I dooooon't thiiiiink so. ;)

Sail7seas
This could be a banner year for Boston sports. You have the World Series, Boston College is a true a contender for BCS championship, the Patriots seem unstoppable and The Celtics may be a contender as well. I hear A Rod is a free agent; do the SOX need a good 3rd baseman who could tear apart the green monster?

If you think HAL is a bad abbreviation how about Celebrity CC posters who Just use a big X, what does that mean? X;The treasure is buried here, X; is where the last ship sank? X like in has been cruise line?

[Barek]

http://www.acronymfinder.com/af-query.asp?acronym=hal&string=exact&s=r&page=1

Bon Voyage and Good Health!
Bob:)
That link works. I was thinking of this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HAL

One acronym, many meanings! ;)

[Barek]

If you think HAL is a bad abbreviation how about Celebrity CC posters who Just use a big X, what does that mean? X;The treasure is buried here, X; is where the last ship sank? X like in has been cruise line?

It's all about the context, isn't it? :) I always see the roman numeral, but I sometimes see others who refer to the X-Box game system abbreviated that way ... then there's this link of others: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_%28disambiguation%29

[NoNoNanette]

HIJACK ALERT!!!! ;)

Location: Lafayette, LA...Formerly Columbus, OH

How long have you been in Lafayette, Mark? I've got dear friends in Breaux Bridge!

I stay at Bayou Boudin cabins on the Teche quite often! A friend of mine, Rocky Sonnier, "The Cracklin' King", owns the joint. :)

I recently began having friends fly in and out of your airport. What a breeze! It's a much longer drive for me, but worth not having to screw around with the NOLA airport.

[Nancyquilts]

Who is Dave?
Now we know who's young;) !
I liked the movie, except never understood the ending (and my computer has been named Hal in respect - and annoyance, some of the time.) Nancy

[vcdarty]

My main HAL acronym association isn't with that homicidal computer--it's with Prince (of Wales) Hal and his verbal combats with Falstaff in Shakespeare's _Henry IV_ plays and his physical combats with the French in _Henry V_. Cry God for Harry, England, and Saint Geooooooooooorge!!!!!

[sail7seas]

Sail7seas
This could be a banner year for Boston sports. You have the World Series, Boston College is a true a contender for BCS championship, the Patriots seem unstoppable and The Celtics may be a contender as well. I hear A Rod is a free agent; do the SOX need a good 3rd baseman who could tear apart the green monster?




We sure are enjoying it....... :) BC is amazing; Patriots incredible; like you say Celtics are again credible and Oh How We Love Our Red Sox. :)

I am sincerely hoping the wise owners of the Red Sox take a pass on A-Rod. We don't want him. :eek:

I'm watching on TV the Red Sox plane just landed at Logan Airport and the fans are all waiting at Fenway Park to welcome home the players and that precious trophy they carry with them. Such Fun!!!

[fireofficer5]

There is only one HAL. The other one is a fantasy. By the way the most elegant cruises I have been on has been HAL.

[jtl513]

I liked the movie, except never understood the ending ...Same here. If I were editing it, I would cut out that weird last 20 minutes! After I saw the movie I had to read the book, but as I recall that didn't help me any. :o

[fireboat]

As I heard today: Boston always starts off the Century well.

[Odd Ball]

Same here. If I were editing it, I would cut out that weird last 20 minutes! After I saw the movie I had to read the book, but as I recall that didn't help me any. :o
Very, very, strange movie. Same here. I saw the movie and then read the book, and I was still puzzled. From what I can recall the sequel with Sal helped make some sense out of the Hal movie.

[maxout]

I guess my avatar says it all...

[Jade13]

Hal is a name. That was a great movie and didn't Dave win at the end, and not the computer?

[SarasMommy]

If you think HAL is a bad abbreviation how about Celebrity CC posters who Just use a big X, what does that mean?

It took me about two weeks after joining CC to figure out what X meant.

I don't get out much.

[theodoron]

Funny, I never thought of HAL as HAL (of 2001 fame). It never dawned on me. "HAL 9000 (Heuristically (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heuristic) programmed ALgorithmic computer) is a fictional character in Arthur C. Clarke (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_C._Clarke)'s Space Odyssey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Odyssey) saga. In translations from the original English (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_language), HAL might have another name: for example, in the French (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_language) version of 2001: A Space Odyssey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001:_A_Space_Odyssey), his name is stated as being CARL, for Cerveau Analytique de Recherche et de Liaison ("Analytic Research and Communication Brain")."

I got this from Wikipedia. So, HAL is really CARL in French.:eek: So, maybe Holland America Line should change its name to CARL:rolleyes: . Let's see what name could we give it????

Just kidding. I love the push and pull of these threads. I read them everyday.:D

[Aandark]

HIJACK ALERT!!!! ;)



How long have you been in Lafayette, Mark? I've got dear friends in Breaux Bridge!

I stay at Bayou Boudin cabins on the Teche quite often! A friend of mine, Rocky Sonnier, "The Cracklin' King", owns the joint. :)

I recently began having friends fly in and out of your airport. What a breeze! It's a much longer drive for me, but worth not having to screw around with the NOLA airport.

We moved down here a little over a year ago. It's quite a bit different in Lafayette than it is anywhere in the Universe (Or at least different than Columbus).

[ldog]

When I saw the movie in my hippie youth I don't think it mattered that it didn't make much sense. Much of life didn't then and still doesn't.:D

(my computer has always been named Hal.):eek:

[bepsf]

Did you happen to catch the Patriots' score yesterday: 52 -7!!!!


Huh???
:confused:

[cruznon]

Huh???
:confused:

LOL!!!

[bepsf]

It took me about two weeks after joining CC to figure out what X meant.

Before it's acquisition by Royal Caribbean International, Celebrity Cruises was known as Chandris Cruises -
- named for John D. Chandris, the founder of a shipping line which had its beginnings in 1922.
X in the Greek alphabet stands for “ch,” the first letters of the name Chandris.

HAL originated in 1873 as NASM which stood for Nederlandsch Americaansche Stoomvart Maatschappiji
(Netherlands American Steamship Company)
It wasn't until 1896 that NASM officially became De Holland Amerika Lijn N.V.,
(The Holland America Line, Ltd.)

[maxout]

Wow Brian, Great piece of trivia. :)

[Copper10-8]

There, there. In the end, Dave won -- HAL didn't.
Anyway, that was 40 years ago, so even if Dave didn't prevail, the tin whiskers would have taken HAL out years ago.

The classic antidote for Frankenstein movie heebie-jeebies was "Young Frankenstein." Worked for me. Perhaps the cure here would be a few episodes of "Lost in Space."

Now if they can just figure out something to make clowns not so scary . . . .

"Nice knockers" "Well, thank you, doctor!"

[maxout]

"Hump? what hump?" :D ;)

[Copper10-8]

Dave was the astronaut who had the conversation with HAL.

I can still hear the tone and timbre of HAL's voice! Spooky.

But my week isn't ruined. ;)

Just for you, Jim;)

http://www.technorati.com/videos/youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv=JcNkMIwolKc

[Copper10-8]

Dr. Frederick Frankenstein (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000698/): [to Inga from behind the bookcase] Put... the candle... back!

Inga (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000414/): Put... ze candle... *back*!

[maxout]

"That's Frankensteen!"

[Copper10-8]

"That's Frankensteen!"

Frau Blücher (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001458/): Would the doctor care for a brandy before retiring?
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000698/): No. Thank you.
Frau Blücher (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001458/): Some varm milk... perhaps?
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000698/): No... thank you very much. No thanks.
Frau Blücher (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001458/): Ovaltine?
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000698/): NOTHING! Thank you! I'm a little - tired!
Frau Blücher (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001458/): Then I vill say... goodnight.
Dr. Frederick Frankenstein (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000698/): Goodnight.

[maxout]

"Would you like a roll in ze hay?"

http://videodetective.com/photos/006/000264_35.jpg

[jhannah]

Thanks for that, John. I had to steal my grandson's binky to sleep with last night! ;)

[NHBob]

Before it's acquisition by Royal Caribbean International, Celebrity Cruises was known as Chandris Cruises -
- named for John D. Chandris, the founder of a shipping line which had its beginnings in 1922.
X in the Greek alphabet stands for “ch,” the first letters of the name Chandris.

HAL originated in 1873 as NASM which stood for Nederlandsch Americaansche Stoomvart Maatschappiji
(Netherlands American Steamship Company)
It wasn't until 1896 that NASM officially became De Holland Amerika Lijn N.V.,
(The Holland America Line, Ltd.)

Right on explanation of Celebrity's "X". Keep hoping this will turn up in a Trivia contest, but never has to my knowledge, including on Celebrity.

Interesting explanation of Holland America's names over the years - never knew this, even though my grandfather worked in their NY office for many years in the 30s.

Here's another one that I doubt anybody but a Dutchman knows: what do letters KLM stand for in name of the Dutch national airline? I certainly can't remember it. Yes, I know the English translation is Royal Dutch Airlines, but what is it in Dutch?

As a Yankee fan living in the midst of "Red Sox Nation", I need some sympathy!

[grsnovi]

Supposedly Clarke decided that the acronym HAL needed to be based on IBM and decremented each letter by 1 character: I become H, B becomes A and M becomes L.

[jhannah]

Here's another one that I doubt anybody but a Dutchman knows: what do letters KLM stand for in name of the Dutch national airline? Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij, Royal Aviation Company.

(No, I'm not Dutch!) ;)

[NHBob]

Supposedly Clarke decided that the acronym HAL needed to be based on IBM and decremented each letter by 1 character: I become H, B becomes A and M becomes L.

Interesting. Name HAL was also used for an auxiliary program for Lotus 1-2-3 back in the dark ages of PCs (80s and early 90s). I believe it was developed by a couple of young programmers, and added some features that early versions of 1-2-3 didn't have. One of the most useful was an "undo" feature. It was quite simple to write a batch file so that HAL loaded autmoatically with 1-2-3.

If I recall correctly, Lotus eventually bought the program and incorporated its features into later versions of 1-2-3. Wonder if the HAL program name was taken from the film, or if the writers used the same logic as grsnovi explains. Any geeks out there who know, or who are old enough to remember the HAL program?

Bob

[Copper10-8]

Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij, Royal Aviation Company.

(No, I'm not Dutch!) ;)

Awesome, Jim!

How 'bout NASM?;)

[sweet sheep]

The reason people use X for Celebrity is because of the big X on the funnels of each ship. (You probably already knew that!)

The reason for HAL is HOLLAND (H) AMERICAN (A) LINES (L)

It helps not to spell it all out every time.

Have a good time,

[Copper10-8]

The reason people use X for Celebrity is because of the big X on the funnels of each ship. (You probably already knew that!)

The reason for HAL is HOLLAND (H) AMERICAN (A) LINES (L)

It helps not to spell it all out every time.

Have a good time,




Small correction;) : Holland America Line

[sweet sheep]

You are absolutely correct! I stand corrected!

[jhannah]

How 'bout NASM?;) Testing me, huh? :cool:

Nederlandsch-Amerikaansche Stoomvaart Maatschappij, which means Dutch-American Steamship Company.

Do I get an A? :D

[Solstice]

There, there. In the end, Dave won -- HAL didn't.
Anyway, that was 40 years ago, so even if Dave didn't prevail, the tin whiskers would have taken HAL out years ago.

The classic antidote for Frankenstein movie heebie-jeebies was "Young Frankenstein." Worked for me. Perhaps the cure here would be a few episodes of "Lost in Space."

Now if they can just figure out something to make clowns not so scary . . . .

I'm not crazy about clowns either.

Did you ever notice that "clown issues" and "clownish shoes" sound just alike?
Just a coincidence? I don't think so...

[gooselace]

Testing me, huh? :cool:

Nederlandsch-Amerikaansche Stoomvaart Maatschappij, which means Dutch-American Steemship Company.

Do I get an A? :D

Probably for the Dutch, but wouldn't that be Dutch-American Steamship Company?

Oops, you fixed it quickly.

[Copper10-8]

Testing me, huh? :cool:

Nederlandsch-Amerikaansche Stoomvaart Maatschappij, which means Dutch-American Steamship Company.

Do I get an A? :D

A+ and an assist to Gooselace;)

Tough one: VOC

Goes back to the Dutch trade in Indonesia (the Dutch East Indies)

[jhannah]

Aw, c'mon, John! You haven't stumped the band yet.

VOC = Vereenigde Oostindische Compagnie which I believe is literally United East Indian Company. That organization goes back to the early 1600s.

Way before my time, regardless of what you've heard.

[Copper10-8]

Good Jim, excellent, unbelievable, awesome!

Someone actually told me you sailed on Titanic, can you believe that one?:D

[jhannah]

Someone actually told me you sailed on Titanic, can you believe that one?:D I shudder every time I hear "Nearer My God to Thee." :eek:

[sail7seas]

:D BRIAN......... ROFLMAO

I thought for sure YOU would want to know the football scores!!! :D

Thank goodness, RuthC showed up in Ocean Bar when she did!! ;)

[bepsf]

I shudder every time I hear "Nearer My God to Thee." :eek:

Lifeboat 13, was it?
;)

[bepsf]

I thought for sure YOU would want to know the football scores!!! :D
;)

Judy--

I'm always interested in what Football Players are scoring...
;)

[SarasMommy]

Before it's acquisition by Royal Caribbean International, Celebrity Cruises was known as Chandris Cruises -
- named for John D. Chandris, the founder of a shipping line which had its beginnings in 1922.
X in the Greek alphabet stands for “ch,” the first letters of the name Chandris.

Geez, now I really feel dumb. When I said that it took me two weeks after joining CC to figure out what X meant, I was just referring to figuring out that it represented Celebrity Cruises. I didn't realize there was such a backstory!

Thanks for the info, and hopefully it will come up in trivia!;)

[RuthC]

BRIAN......... ROFLMAO

I thought for sure YOU would want to know the football scores!!! :D

Thank goodness, RuthC showed up in Ocean Bar when she did!! ;)

Judy--

I'm always interested in what Football Players are scoring...
;)
Yeah, RuthC does know the score. :rolleyes:

You remember, don't you sail, how Brian didn't know a thing that we were talking about when we discussed the Patriots? None of the guys with us did! :eek: Too funny.

[Copper10-8]

Yeah, RuthC does know the score. :rolleyes:

You remember, don't you sail, how Brian didn't know a thing that we were talking about when we discussed the Patriots? None of the guys with us did! :eek: Too funny.

The New England Patriots................heard they play a pretty good game of Lacrosse...................or was that table tennis?

[RuthC]

The New England Patriots................heard they play a pretty good game of Lacrosse...................or was that table tennis?

Didja notice that New England has a championship team at each end of 2007? Didja? Huh? Huh? :D

Now, if we could only light a fire under the Bruins. :rolleyes:

[cactuslady]

And when are they taking the HAL out of HALloween? :eek:

[Boytjie]

The New England Patriots................heard they play a pretty good game of Lacrosse...................or was that table tennis?


I thought they rode horses.

[jhannah]

And when are they taking the HAL out of HALloween?

Carnoween?
Celeboween?
Costaween?
Princessween?
Royalcariboween?
Nah.
HALloween is the only thing that works! Besides, hanging around the lido pool for more than a few minutes proves that ghosts DO exist! :D

[bepsf]

Besides, hanging around the lido pool for more than a few minutes proves that ghosts DO exist! :D

I thought the ghosts were kept in the freezers?
;)

[sail7seas]

Yeah, RuthC does know the score. :rolleyes:

You remember, don't you sail, how Brian didn't know a thing that we were talking about when we discussed the Patriots? None of the guys with us did! :eek: Too funny.


:D I reeeeemeeeember!! I never saw so many blank stares looking back at me!!! :D WAAAAY to funny! I was a cooked goose until (thanks be) you arrived!