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Oink
August 10th, 2004, 05:27 PM
:confused: What gives? The regular HAL board is lively, but the roll calls don't move. Why do you suppose that is?? Later....Oink! :)

Roz
August 10th, 2004, 05:37 PM
I just came out of my coma and posted on my roll call thread. In fact, I posted twice today.

Roz

jhannah
August 10th, 2004, 05:49 PM
I've posted on mine several times recently. But you're right ... they are slow.

elmorejj
August 10th, 2004, 06:08 PM
I check and post pretty regularly, if just to see if any new cruisers have checked in. There have been a couple of posters here who are on my cruises but they haven`t posted to the roll call board.....jean
Hi Roz :cool:

Roz
August 10th, 2004, 06:21 PM
Jean and I are on the same cruise and kind of keep our roll call thread going. Like Jean, I check periodically to see if we have any new passengers.

Roz

ekerr19
August 10th, 2004, 06:25 PM
My two threads are dying the S-L-O-W death! In fact, I think one has already passed!

Our upcoming Noordam cruise has only 2 of us posting and the ship has been sold out for months... I am very surprised there haven't been more posters.

I started a 3/20/05 Volendam and I know doone is booked on that cruise, but I think I may have jumped the gun - it's still REALLY early for that one... :cool:

PhylHarv
August 10th, 2004, 06:27 PM
How do I log on to the Roll Call? I haven't been able to see how to do that. I sent a message last month about a cruise we are booked on--Westerdam Transatlantic beginning Nov. 12, but I haven't seen a place to log on to this.

TedC
August 10th, 2004, 06:32 PM
There is a roll call for the 12 Nov. Westerdam crossing from Barcelona to FLL and it has been pretty active. There are several postings by many cc'ers. Go to the roll call forum and click on Holland America, it should still be on the first page.

ekerr19
August 10th, 2004, 06:33 PM
How do I log on to the Roll Call? I haven't been able to see how to do that. I sent a message last month about a cruise we are booked on--Westerdam Transatlantic beginning Nov. 12, but I haven't seen a place to log on to this.

Scroll down to the bottom of the page - on the right you will see "Forum Jump" if you scroll through the options, you will get to Roll Call Boards Holland America, then click GO.

I think this might be the reason they are so inactive.

SharonN
August 10th, 2004, 06:34 PM
It's definitely slower than I remember on the old boards. I started one over a month ago for the 1/23/2005 Westerdam cruise and not only has no one else posted on it no one has even read it. The number of views shows 2 and I'm pretty sure those are both from me!

jazzsea
August 10th, 2004, 06:54 PM
May I suggest that someone clean up the old "Roll Call" items for cruises that have past their date. Many of us do not want to scroll through 8 or 9 pages to look for a sailing. I feel like an idiot when I post a cruise and someone else has already done it.

Also, get rid of the items that are off topic and come up with a preferred way to title the post so that we can search for our sailing and ship.

I have posted: October 20, Rotterdam; January 5, Rotterdam and July 16, Maasdam.

WindyCity
August 10th, 2004, 07:34 PM
Westerdam 12/12 sailing is pretty active. I did a rough count- looks like around 40 people with cc'ers and extended family....should be fun!:D

Lovebirds
August 10th, 2004, 07:49 PM
May I suggest that someone clean up the old "Roll Call" items for cruises that have past their date. Many of us do not want to scroll through 8 or 9 pages to look for a sailing. I feel like an idiot when I post a cruise and someone else has already done it.

Also, get rid of the items that are off topic and come up with a preferred way to title the post so that we can search for our sailing and ship.

I have posted: October 20, Rotterdam; January 5, Rotterdam and July 16, Maasdam.
As far as a preferred way to title the posts, as long as the ship name is in the title of the post, it's easy to search.

Go to the roll call (Holland America) page. In the top right corner of page is a search box. Click advanced. in the advanced fields, put in the name of the ship, select titles only and any of the other options that might help. A list of all of the roll calls for that ship comes up and its pretty easy to find the one you are looking for.

Hope this helps

bombero
August 10th, 2004, 07:59 PM
I am on the Oosterdam, Oct 24th, and posted a roll-call, but was beginning to think the cruise may have cancelled. Never got a single reply...Bombero

Vic The Parrot
August 10th, 2004, 08:18 PM
I've noticed that on the Cunard board as well.

Some people start a roll call, but are met with the same enthusiasm as attending a wake.

Guess many get carried away with the privacy issue, or just don't really care if anyone else is on board.

Oink
August 10th, 2004, 08:45 PM
:) Hi gang! Thanks for your replies. I guess I'm not alone! Our Nov 20th Zuiderdam has only four CCers talking. It's been the same 4 for at least two months. :rolleyes: The Dawn Princess cruise we are planning for next April, but have not yet booked, has WAY more action....and it's still 8 months out. Very strange, huh? Later....Oink! :)

LAFFNVEGAS
August 10th, 2004, 09:54 PM
I think the problem is it takes a few more steps to get to the Roll Call Board. Some don't even know how to find it. On the "Old" board there was an area that was very visable to click at the TOP of the HAL Board that took you directly to the HAL Roll Call Board. I think since it is not at the very top people tend to forget. The old Roll Call Board was a lot more active.

Keith Rita
August 10th, 2004, 10:07 PM
Our Zaandam New Years cruise has been rather slow--us and two others have posted. Since they just dropped the fare by a decent amount there will probably be a little more activity as it gets closer to the date. Our category D reduction has knocked $1,000 off our fare. We have taken HAL cruises in the past that had 0 posters for the cruise on the CC board.

Himself
August 10th, 2004, 11:11 PM
I don't post when I will be on a cruise until after I get back. It is one of my ideocyncrosies

Himself

Orcrone
August 11th, 2004, 08:14 AM
I've given up checking for new messages on the roll calls for my two upcoming cruises.:(

CrabbyHarper
August 11th, 2004, 11:10 AM
Yep - mine are moving glacially, too. Orcrone - when are your two cruises? Mine are both Maasdam, Nov 9 and April 21.

EKerr - are we still missing each other?

sail7seas
August 11th, 2004, 11:20 AM
I am one of those folks who never post to Roll Call. I never want to commit so far in advance to being at a particular place at an appointed time when on a cruise. I never know what we will be doing/with whom and I would feel very badly to make a "date" and then not appear.


So, it is more polite and considerate to not commit IMO

Orcrone
August 11th, 2004, 11:26 AM
Yep - mine are moving glacially, too. Orcrone - when are your two cruises? Mine are both Maasdam, Nov 9 and April 21.CrabbyHarper, I'm on the Zuiderdam on March 26, and the Maasdam right before you, on October 30.

The roll calls here have gotten very little action. However, there are a number of people from C@ on the 10/30 cruise. The roll call over there is over 200 posts.

Oink
August 12th, 2004, 05:10 PM
:) Hi Again! Sail7Seas - Cruise Critic folks are pretty easy going and fun loving for the most part (unless you bring up the dreaded dress code subject!) I'm fairly sure you are not required to meet on the ship, unless you choose to do so. No pressure, no problem! :D Later....Oink! :)

ekerr19
August 12th, 2004, 05:16 PM
Yep - mine are moving glacially, too. Orcrone - when are your two cruises? Mine are both Maasdam, Nov 9 and April 21.

EKerr - are we still missing each other?

Yes, we miss you! I'm excited about the upcoming Volendam, but realized yesterday we booked it right in the middle of college spring break... :(

Sonny doesn't think there will be too many breakers on a HAL ship :) , and I have to agree, but it's the ports I worry about.

I wish I were booked on a Maasdam cruise too... I miss that ship :)

Did you see my post that had the college spring break schedule? I know you try to avoid the kids out on holidays...

willie2845
February 3rd, 2011, 01:20 PM
Roll Calls are very hard to find!!!!! Yesterday it took me 15min. to find our October sailing. And i am trying to find it once again right now!!!

Alcarondas
February 3rd, 2011, 01:26 PM
Please just say "No" to Thread Necromancy. This one had been sleeping peacefully for six and a half years. Oh, the rude awakenings...

rochelle_s
February 3rd, 2011, 01:33 PM
Roll Calls are very hard to find!!!!! Yesterday it took me 15min. to find our October sailing. And i am trying to find it once again right now!!!


Willie....

At the top of the page on the right click on 'Boards'
Then scroll down till you find 'Roll Calls- Members Only'
Click on 'Holland America Roll Calls'
Scroll down till you find your ship and click on it
Then you can scroll down till you find your sailing date.

I think you might have clicked on the first time you saw Holland America..which is these boards and not the roll call ones. If you still have difficulty locating it post here with your Ship and date and I or someone else can post a link for you.

Good luck.

Rochelle

wwinfl91
February 3rd, 2011, 01:34 PM
IMHO there are a variety of reasons HAL roll calls seem to much quieter than say RCL or Princess ones. One has to due with the average age group that sails on these lines. While many of us of the baby boom and older generations have become computer literate or like me working in the field many didn't and so they might find their way to cruise critic post a few times and then go back to doing other things that interest them. The younger people who tend to more prevalent on some of the other cruise lines roll call boards live online either with their smart phones or on their computers. They have grown up using computers and tend to lead to a much more active roll call than many of the HAL roll calls.

At one time roll calls were hard to find when all the roll calls for all of a cruise lines ships were mixed in together. But since CC changed that and divided them up by ship they are relatively easy to track down if someone makes the effort. In my opinion it will be well worth it to find your roll call and get active on it since it allows you to meet others who will be with you on the ship and who you can then organize shore excursions and on ship activities. So I encourage anyone who has a cruise booked go out and find your roll call and get on it.

Once you have posted to a roll call you can always get back to it easily by going to the tab at the top of the board on the left side of the screen, user cp. Once there on the right side is a list of posts you have made and all you need to do is find your roll call there and go to it that way rather than searching through the list on the roll call board.

This has probably gotten pretty long so I will close for now with the following.

Have a great next cruise and join your roll call it is easy.

If you are on the March 4 Maasdam 14 day Southern Caribbean cruise I will make it easy and put the link to it here.

http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=1200620

Talk at you all later.

mudscraper
February 3rd, 2011, 01:34 PM
How far back in the dusty storeroom do you have to go to find this stuff?

amunhbuu
February 3rd, 2011, 01:55 PM
Our Eurodam roll call had a fraction of the traffic that our Carnival and RC roll call have had.

Hlitner
February 3rd, 2011, 02:05 PM
We have a theory that HA Roll Calls are quiet because many HA cruisers are very experenced travelers with pretty good taste. You can look at some Roll Calls and try to follow the really cruise related posts such as: "my dog is sick," "my mother-in-law is mean and nasty," "do you like to decorate your door with blue or red crepe paper," "does the boat rock," etc etc. Most HA cruisers are not into this stuff :)

Hank

SJSULIBRARIAN
February 3rd, 2011, 02:17 PM
I agree with Hlitner when roll calls become personal social networking forums, I am turned off. I like to read about that particular cruise related topics not about what someone did that day at home. I would also like to see those roll calls about cruises that are over be removed. It's wonderful that people have found new friends but surely there are other ways to communicate once a cruise is over. it does make it difficult for future cruisers to find their forum.

Barbara

wwinfl91
February 3rd, 2011, 02:36 PM
I agree that maybe a month or two after a cruise has completed the roll call should be removed or maybe moved to a completed cruise roll call area (are you listening, Laura) where they could remain as long as there are still people posting to them. Then maybe after a month or two of inactivity they could then be permanently removed.

Good idea.

Have a great next cruise.

Cuizer2
February 3rd, 2011, 02:38 PM
:confused: What gives? The regular HAL board is lively, but the roll calls don't move. Why do you suppose that is?? Later....Oink! :)

I'll bet most of the people that don't post also saw 2001 A Space Odyssey and remember the name of the computer. :eek:

rochelle_s
February 3rd, 2011, 02:45 PM
I don't agree with those suggesting removing the old rolls, although having a seperate place to archive them might be helpful for some.

I find the old roll calls a great resource for looking up what others have previously done on the same itinerary I have planned. This is especially true for those of us who plan our time ashore independently.

I can read through an old roll call and find some very useful information without ever having a need to post to it. So using the criteria of how long it has been since posted to as a means to determine its worthiness to 'stick around' would not be appropriate.

Just my thoughts...

Rochelle

kazu
February 3rd, 2011, 02:54 PM
I don't agree with those suggesting removing the old rolls, although having a seperate place to archive them might be helpful for some.

I find the old roll calls a great resource for looking up what others have previously done on the same itinerary I have planned. This is especially true for those of us who plan our time ashore independently.

I can read through an old roll call and find some very useful information without ever having a need to post to it. So using the criteria of how long it has been since posted to as a means to determine its worthiness to 'stick around' would not be appropriate.

Just my thoughts...

Rochelle

I'm with Rochelle on this one. I have done the same thing when I am researching and they can be helpful.

The roll calls can really vary. Our last med had huge postings. this one is a ways away but we are still approaching 100 posts. I think Hank hit the nail on the head. It depends upon how much experience the roll call has.

and how many private tours people want to do, etc.

Sometimes they can be quite active and other times not. It's sort of like the upgrade fairy I think - there's no rhyme or reason:):):);)

savannahgirl1
February 3rd, 2011, 03:16 PM
:confused: What gives? The regular HAL board is lively, but the roll calls don't move. Why do you suppose that is?? Later....Oink! :)


We had to cancel our March cruise for this year. We needed either a cruise or a new car for my husband, car had to win. His was a 93 corsica with over 245,000 miles on it. :rolleyes: So I haven't been back to the roll call since we cancelled.

NorthPhoenixGuy
February 3rd, 2011, 03:17 PM
our roll call for the oosterdam cruise in april is very slow. there are two of us very active on it and occasionally a couple others contribute. i thought that after february 1st, more people would enroll but nothing so far and since it's coming up in april, i hope, but i doubt, more people get involved.

thanks

bepsf
February 3rd, 2011, 03:22 PM
Please just say "No" to Thread Necromancy. This one had been sleeping peacefully for six and a half years. Oh, the rude awakenings...

In more ways than one...
...It makes me sad to see posts from an old friend who is no longer among us.
:(

CtheW0rld
February 3rd, 2011, 03:22 PM
http://files.sharenator.com/Thread_Crap_Wont_Die_RE_mega_zombie_forum-s300x371-97014-580.jpg

kiwijohn
February 3rd, 2011, 03:45 PM
I have noticed that a number of roll calls are very slow and seem to die a natural death.
I started one for the upcoming cruise on the Volendam from Singapore to Kobe on April 14 and already it has attracted 429 posts and 6511 views. Before I made the first post I thought carefully about the heading. As a Kiwi I find American dates in the format 1/1/11 confusing as I have to translate the date into English where the day is first. then the month and year last. I have also found that for a collectors cruise such as this one it pays to put the first leg in the heading and the people on the second leg will join automatically or start a second leg roll call and continue to post on the first leg roll call to attract people doing both legs of the cruise

lettienets
February 3rd, 2011, 04:00 PM
It has been pretty slow on my upcoming Nieuw Amsterdam Apr 3 TA too. Last year's Zuiderdam only had about 9 people on it. Who knows why.
Conversation is pretty short. I like roll calls to learn about the cruise and to build spirit in the group. Not much happening this time. Are people chatting somewhere else?

Cuizer2
February 3rd, 2011, 04:03 PM
our roll call for the oosterdam cruise in april is very slow. there are two of us very active on it and occasionally a couple others contribute. i thought that after february 1st, more people would enroll but nothing so far and since it's coming up in april, i hope, but i doubt, more people get involved.

thanks

I could go back to posting on that roll call, but I'm no longer booked on that cruise. :(

Cuizer2
February 3rd, 2011, 04:05 PM
Roll Calls are very hard to find!!!!! Yesterday it took me 15min. to find our October sailing. And i am trying to find it once again right now!!!

Try using your CP which contains a list of all your currently subscribed threads.

aliaschief
February 3rd, 2011, 05:10 PM
We currently have a very active Roll Call for our May 17, 2011, MS Rotterdam Transatlantic to Rotterdam.

As some one who has started, organized and conducted several Meet & Greets in the past, I feel qualified to give some advice.

First of all someone has take charge of and be responsible for the Roll Call. When we started getting involved in the Roll Call it was like we were the Maytag salesmen. With stubborn persistence we kept it active by posting often. In order for a Roll Call to grow it needs to stay active. Well, persistence has paid off and after almost 20,000 hits we now have over seventy people signed up for the Meet & Greet and growing every day.

By working together, sharing research and the several members who have taken on projects, has saved many of us a bunch of money and some outstanding private tours.

I was involved in a Roll Call, for a cruise, on the MS Ryndam last December and I will be the first to admit that a seven day cruise is the hardest to get started. Again, with persistence we ended up having one of the largest Roll Calls for the Ryndam this season. The longer the cruise the easier it is to get a RC started.

We find Roll Calls a valuable tool in planning our cruises but most of all we have met some wonderful people and several lifetime friendships.

One thing I have come to realize is that on my past cruises how many cruisers have no clue that Cruise Critics exist. The other issue is that many cruisers are not computer savvy or do not even have one.

So those are some of my opinions and not necessarily others. If you want to have a good Roll Call someone has to take charge and be responsible in order to keep it going. There are not to many that like to take the project on. It is time consuming, frustrating, helpful and every time I say to myself, "Why in the hell am I doing this?" I think about the wonderful planned cruise awaiting us and the wonderful new friends that we will meet.

doncarlos
February 3rd, 2011, 05:26 PM
aliaschief said it well at previous post [ # 46 ? ].............if we " take the lead " we post the actual " roster " every 2 weeks and periodically , if needed ' find a way to get it back to the top of the page but without "fluffy '/ "nothing to say " posts ............

wwinfl91
February 3rd, 2011, 06:41 PM
Well said Aliaschief. I agree with everything you said having also arranged a number of roll call get togethers on HAl and other cruise lines. You have to have time to do it but when you see all the people getting to see each other face to face after "talking" online for months makes it worthwhile. I have also made many cruising friends who I keep in contact with online years after the cruise we were on together.

Have a great next cruise.

kakalina
February 3rd, 2011, 07:54 PM
Our current roll call for the Rotterdam 3/4 cruise has over 37,000 views and over 2,100 posts. It is very active. And I love that it is.

shandryl
February 3rd, 2011, 10:12 PM
I started a Roll Call for Statendam Dec 23rd, 2011 cause no one started one yet........:confused: (no new people on that one....just me)

I am on the one for Noordam March 8th, 2011 and we have enuf to make a meet & greet :) I would like to see more but.........what can you do. Its like the idea of a meet & greet is getting old or no one cares anymore. :(

Maybe we should call meet and greet something different like...(meet new friends on board) LOL I don't know. Its not just the roll call boards........its ALL the BOARDS. If I compare the boards from last year....... around the same time of year....it was way more fun and happier and more positive. :D Just MHO

Traveling Bob
February 4th, 2011, 09:29 AM
:) Hi gang! Thanks for your replies. I guess I'm not alone! Our Nov 20th Zuiderdam has only four CCers talking. It's been the same 4 for at least two months. :rolleyes: The Dawn Princess cruise we are planning for next April, but have not yet booked, has WAY more action....and it's still 8 months out. Very strange, huh? Later....Oink! :)

I don't get it either. Some Roll Call Posts get thousands of reads and hundreds of posts, while others get 10 & 3. Do CCers flock to certain sailings?

Aruba
February 4th, 2011, 10:03 AM
Your roll-call board may be dead but this thread certainly isn't.

alpal1993
February 4th, 2011, 10:19 AM
Mine is picking up somewhat as the cruise date is getting closer to our March 11 departure.Last year we actually had 2 roll calls oe for our cruise and the other for general info.as this was the first time HAl had the 14 Night Alaskan Adventurer itinerary.It was a lot of fun as well as fact finding helpfull hints as those of us came back.

G&G
February 4th, 2011, 10:33 AM
Our current roll call for the Rotterdam 3/4 cruise has over 37,000 views and over 2,100 posts. It is very active. And I love that it is.

Hi Guys:

Me thinks the South Pacific cruise is very popular for CC members !

I have read several of the posts plus seen your great pictures.

We are sailing on the Amsterdam, 06/24/2011, 14 day, Alaska cruise and the Roll Call is not only dead, it is absolutely dead :eek: ! I have tried to start the roll call twice (1st time it was deleted due to no acitivity) We have 11 posts to date, 4 are mine. Someone posted a new thread on HAL about this cruise. It got more responses than the roll call.

Rick

aliaschief
February 4th, 2011, 10:45 AM
:) Hi gang! Thanks for your replies. I guess I'm not alone! Our Nov 20th Zuiderdam has only four CCers talking. It's been the same 4 for at least two months. :rolleyes: The Dawn Princess cruise we are planning for next April, but have not yet booked, has WAY more action....and it's still 8 months out. Very strange, huh? Later....Oink! :)

Oink, I just noticed that you stated your cruise on the MS Zuiderdam is Nov. 20th. Well, we are booked to sail on the Nov. 25, 2011 ten day cruise and the cruise before us sails on Nov. 14, 2011. Was your quoted post a typo or do you have the wrong date or ship?

alpal1993
February 4th, 2011, 11:01 AM
Hi Guys:

Me thinks the South Pacific cruise is very popular for CC members !

I have read several of the posts plus seen your great pictures.

We are sailing on the Amsterdam, 06/24/2011, 14 day, Alaska cruise and the Roll Call is not only dead, it is absolutely dead :eek: ! I have tried to start the roll call twice (1st time it was deleted due to no acitivity) We have 11 posts to date, 4 are mine. Someone posted a new thread on HAL about this cruise. It got more responses than the roll call.

Rick
That is a shame. Have you checked out our 14 Night cruise tips board from last year,it is really good.It is a fabulous itinerary, although yours is a slight bit different.We did Hubbard and Glacier Bay as well as Sitka,Skagway,Juneau Ketchikan and the new ports of Homer(the best) Anchorage and Kodiak

NoWhiners
February 4th, 2011, 11:19 AM
We are going to the Panama Canal in April on the Westerdam. Our roll call was started more than a yeard before the cruise (by a person who had to cancel, so she could do @ TA's instead--lucky dog). i took over, since she and i posted within a week of each other. Since then, we have about 30 people who have responded at various times. We have a pre-cruise dinner, a sailaway party, a M&G, and a wine crawl scheduled, and pretty good participation. All of my roll calls have been pretty active and we had at least a M&G set up. Maybe we were just lucky?

Also wanted to add that you must be logged in to get to roll calls, but if people are posting they must be signed in, so this may only be a problem for people who 'kurk' without posting:);)

After signing up last February, we are finally getting close to departing. can't wait!!

ML

aliaschief
February 4th, 2011, 11:36 AM
Oink, I just noticed that you stated your cruise on the MS Zuiderdam is Nov. 20th. Well, we are booked to sail on the Nov. 25, 2011 ten day cruise and the cruise before us sails on Nov. 14, 2011. Was your quoted post a typo or do you have the wrong date or ship?

woops I will quote myself. I had no idea how long this thread has been going. My bad!:confused:

serendipity1499
February 4th, 2011, 02:27 PM
Oink, I just noticed that you stated your cruise on the MS Zuiderdam is Nov. 20th. Well, we are booked to sail on the Nov. 25, 2011 ten day cruise and the cruise before us sails on Nov. 14, 2011. Was your quoted post a typo or do you have the wrong date or ship?

woops I will quote myself. I had no idea how long this thread has been going. My bad!:confused:

:D:DI've been laughing to myself for a couple of days & today, when I read your first post I burst out laughing again..:D

****You probably are one of the few posters on the last couple of pages of this thread, who realizes this thread was started in 2004 & is 7 years old..****


Some posters have alluded to the age but nopt many picked it up..

Now, I realize that we should do searches before posting a new thread, but I wonder if CC could find a way to let a newer poster know that the thread is really too old to revive..;)Most of the time the info on a thread this old is no longer viable...Things change so often on Cruises..

I'm going to send a report to Walt to find out how we can start a new thread & close this one..

He may decide to keep it anyway..

Cheers...:)Betty

wwinfl91
February 4th, 2011, 03:25 PM
I also went back and saw it was originally started in 2004 but I just thought someone did what the board asks us to do and that is see if another thread already exists before posting a new topic.

What is interesting is that in spite of the fact the first few pages other than for historic purposes don't have much to say that is current obviously that there have been as many posts to it since it was resurrected.

Obviously it is still a topic that people want to talk about.

Have a great next cruise.

LindaM
February 4th, 2011, 03:40 PM
I knew that is what happened to a T-- you doing a search, because someone most likely would have told you to, otherwise. I agree 100%---the topic certainly IS viable and will be as long as HAL doesn't change it's demographics. In fact, there have been similar threads in the past year on this same topic. This "old" one certainly has generated a lot of interest!

Why should this thread be removed or moved just because it is old? It has absolutely nothing to do with cruise industry/ships constantly changing, as a previous poster mentioned. I really don't think we should bother the Host with something so inconsequential.

serendipity1499
February 4th, 2011, 04:54 PM
I knew that is what happened to a T-- you doing a search, because someone most likely would have told you to, otherwise. I agree 100%---the topic certainly IS viable and will be as long as HAL doesn't change it's demographics. In fact, there have been similar threads in the past year on this same topic. This "old" one certainly has generated a lot of interest!

Why should this thread be removed or moved just because it is old? It has absolutely nothing to do with cruise industry/ships constantly changing, as a previous poster mentioned. I really don't think we should bother the Host with something so inconsequential.

Linda..Agree you are correct, this thread happens to be viable, however most threads are not viable after that length of time.. There are other posters on this thread who seem to agree with me..

It can be very confusing to some posters when an OP states they will be leaving on such & such a cruise on Nov. 10 & another poster is questioning them about the dates which don't seem to correspond with the present ships schedule, as it happened to aliaschief..Then there are others on this thread who are answering the OP & we don't even know if the OP will ever see it..:confused::confused:

I honestly think there should be some area in CC to place threads which are more than 2 years old..Or another thought maybe they could post the date of the original thred somewhere in the Title/search area..

I often will do a search, & have no way of knowing when the original thread was posted unless I read through them & find the info is not what I'm looking for..

BTW if one has a question Cruise Critic wants us to ask Management or the Hosts..I don't think they consider it a bother..As a matter of fact I believe they would like to have a question asked of them instead of always getting complaints..LOL..

I asked Walt or Andy (whoops it's Joe, not Andy, sorry about that..) if they would comment on my post & let us know how long they think a post is viable...Also asked if they would consider posting their answer on this thread even if they happen to disagree with me..;);)

Cheers...:)Betty

aliaschief
February 4th, 2011, 05:36 PM
I gave a pretty good reply to the OP but I guess I was just a little late in responding! LOL:o

rochelle_s
February 4th, 2011, 07:55 PM
The person who resurrected this post from the abyss was having difficulty finding the roll call section of cruise critic. I'm assuming they typed 'HAL Roll Calls' into the search feature and this came up as an almost perfect hit.

There were a few of us who supplied the poster with info on how to find it. I have not seen them post again so I hope they could atleast find there way back here and then make it to their roll call.

I remember when I first joined cruisecritc how difficult I found it to make my way around. Some days I still find the search function hit and miss. I love though that just about any day I can learn something new here.

The original topic though seems to be just as interesting to the members today as it was 7 years ago. Good or bad I guess some things never change and in this case its the predictability of the roll calls.


Rochelle

shandryl
February 4th, 2011, 08:53 PM
I knew the post started in 2004............lol Thought I would add my comments anyway. ;)

Host Walt
February 5th, 2011, 07:52 PM
Generally speaking, it's my experience that threads resurrected from a long time ago are brought back either by someone who did not notice how old it really is or by somebody who wants to resume an old discussion/argument. The former is just fine and, so long as the posts remain within our guidelines, there is no reason to remove them.

However when a resurrected thread has a meaningless post just to bump it to the top of the queue and does not bring anything new to the table, it is considered a "bump" and will be removed.

So, no, there is no reason at all that the discussion on this thread should be stopped or that the thread be separated so that the new stuff would be in its own new thread.

Kittycat2009
February 5th, 2011, 07:56 PM
Maybe some do not know about the roll calls. I know I didn't before our first cruise. I did check it out for our 2nd cruise last year. Some of us are just slow on the uptake. :D

NH Cruisers
February 6th, 2011, 09:39 AM
My roll call for 3/23/2011 on Zuiderdam to Panama-Canal is pretty quiet. I am on the Sapphire Princess 9/4/2011 too so I have a couple to jump too. It isn't so bad.

Jon

oldbutstillkicking
February 7th, 2011, 08:24 PM
I posted a roll call shotly after getting a cabin on Oosterdam but only one other passenger responded. i made a response to him, but the thread has been dead since. I don't know if it was because the cruise is in June or because I stated that we were senior citizens and that turned other CCers off.