Parents need to take control of there kids!!

[Thumpr]

On the last 2 cruises me and my wife went on we had some really bad kids.
I have been approached at 11:00 at night and a kid maybe the age of 10 asked me to buy them some alcohol. Me and my wife were watching the ice carving one evening and there were about three kids running up and grabbing ice even after the cruise director told them nicely to stop, then the kids dad went up and got some ice to (well we see where they get it from). But I think the worse thing is when parents let there kids run up and down the hallway all day long.

All i can say is I know you cannot control your kids when your not around, but you can make them mind when you are!

Anyone else have comments please post!!

[DFD1]

Your right, and it seems to be getting worse. Best remedy....try to schedule your cruises when they are more likely to be in school....or anyplace other than on your ship!

[Krazy Kruizers]

There was a time when we had to schedule cruises when there were a lot of children on board - due to work schedules.

But now that we are retired, we do our best to pick cruises when there will be fewer children on board.

Unfortunately that doesn't always happen because some parents don't care if their children miss school and some are home-schooling their children.

Do agree that some of the children on board lately lack very little in the way of manners, etc.

[Lisa63]

I just posted this on another thread, so I hope no one minds if I post it again here.

One major problem I have with the kids' programs on most lines is that children over a certain age (usually as young as 8 or 9) are able to sign themselves out of the program. While parents can refuse to provide such permission, it seems that most allow this, which results in the youngsters running unsupervised throughout the ship. We stopped using kids' programs for that reason, and our son (now almost 11) stays with us. Fortunately, he doesn't mind, and we like the "family vacation" aspect.

Although the cruise lines permit this practice, I still blame the parents. They ought to know where their kids are and take responsibility, whether they are with them or not. JMHO.

[elmorejj]

I am anticipating the day when one of these "adventurous" crumb snatchers decides to show his friends how brave he is by climbing on the outside rail and toppling over. I`d hate to see it happen, but maybe parents then would keep their kids with them at all times......jean :cool:

[HeatherInFlorida]

There's no getting around the fact that kids on cruises are here to stay because financially it's still one of the best deals going for a vacation.

Fortunately, for those of us who do not enjoy them in huge numbers, we have the option to cruise when they do not. Even though there will always be some, we cruise when it is so few that they do nothing but add a bit of enjoyment to the trip.

Beyond adjusting your own travel schedule, I don't think there are any other answers. HAL and other cruiselines are at the mercy of how the parents bring up their children. They cannot toss them overboard (unfortunately in some cases;) ) and they can't lay a hand on them. So what are they to do?

For us, it's early November, early December, and carefully selected other times.

[Jacqueline]

I dont think starting a thread on it is going to control the problem. I do think that better security- more visible on the decks, for example may help some.
The best thing to do is to cruise early in the fall once the kids are back at school rather than during the summer months.
This time of year there are always a spate of posts on too many kids on the ships. The other complaint is that it is too hot and humid in the Carribean. Really.
Good planning can put you on a sailing with few kids. Or try some of the adults only Celebrity cruises.

[jhannah]

HAL and other cruiselines are at the mercy of how the parents bring up their children. They cannot toss them overboard (unfortunately in some cases;) ) and they can't lay a hand on them. So what are they to do?
I believe if the kids' behavior is dangerous to other pax (running on deck and in the halls) and/or destructive, and this behavior does not stop after one warning, then the kids and their parents can be put off the ship at the next port.

[ekerr19]

I believe if the kids' behavior is dangerous to other pax (running on deck and in the halls) and/or destructive, and this behavior does not stop after one warning, then the kids and their parents can be put off the ship at the next port.

Jim-

I agree 100% - parents need to be held accountable for their children's actions!

[mcduck]

While we have always (after they turned 4) travelled with our two children (Now 16 and 21), I have to agree with ekerr19 and jhannah. The children are the parents responsibilty, and if after warning the parents in writing that there is an issue(s) that need to be addressed with their children's behavoiur, if they are not dealt with they should be left at the next port. (As should any "problem" passanger that refuses to co-operate). Traveling on a vacation is DIFFERENT than traveling alone with your spouse, and the appropriate changes to your lifestyle have to be made.

It is the parents that are the problem, and being dealt with by the cruise line, hotel or resort may be the only way to get the message accross. In our neck of the woods if junior causes property damage, the parents are legally responsible for restitution.

The problem is anyone can have kids whether they are qualified to or not! So let's not "ban" the kids - let's ban the bad parents!

[Tatka]

then the kids dad went up and got some ice to (well we see where they get it from).
So ... this thread could've had another name "Parents need to take better control of themselves" (http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?p=1853304#post1853304) , right?

[HeatherInFlorida]

I believe if the kids' behavior is dangerous to other pax (running on deck and in the halls) and/or destructive, and this behavior does not stop after one warning, then the kids and their parents can be put off the ship at the next port.
I couldn't agree more, but you'll never see it happen. I'd bet my first born, but it's way too late for that;)

[jfishe]

I swear, I'm a drill sergeant parent.... and my husband is constantly telling me I can't be responsible for others kids. But, if I see a kid doing something that they shouldn't be, especially if it's dangerous, I'm going to ask them, with respect, to stop, just as I would hope if my son was doing something inappropriate an adult would ask him to stop. I've been known to ask a child to stop the behavior and then ask to speak to their parents. Works ! Although, I guess sometimes it could be viewed as confrontational, but I certainly want to enjoy my vacation, and want others to enjoy there's as well. If my son is doing something wrong to make someone else experience no fun... then my son should be held accountable, as should I as the parent :) It's all about mutual respect !!

[localady]

So ... this thread could've had another name "Parents need to take better control of themselves" (http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?p=1853304#post1853304) , right?
You bet!!! Tatka, I would bet my bottom dollar that you would never see my kids or your son pulling such antics, because I sense that you, like I are a strict yet loving parent. After the behavior and attitudes I saw from the children and then their parents reactions ("my child is perfect" and "don't bother me, I am on vacation":eek: ), I realized where kids were getting the bad rap. Even my sons commented on their peers unruly behavior. I was so proud of my youngest who came home from the kids club while we were sailing on the Magic with a special Disney pin. He said he had gotten it, because he was the only child in the bunch who said "thank you" for the pizza they were dishing, and the Counselors were impressed.:cool: It's hard work being a parent, but sometimes it pays off.

[dst]

I have to say we traveled in July (our first ever this time of year) on the Zuiderdam. Although we usually try to cruise in the fall/winter months we were married in July and took out honeymoon after our wedding. I can't understand why some of the reasoning here is rather than to take responsibility for their children the answer is to travel when kids are in school. I should not be forced to make my travel plans around some miss behaved children and their irresponsible parents.

For example on the cruise, there was an adult only swim time from 3-5:00 in the aft pool. I looked forward to that quiet time, which never occured. HAL had it posted at the pool and also on the daily log......I assume that the parents can read and just chose to be more important than the other childless adults. Another happening that was very disturbing were the parents having their children in the pool with diapers on......how gross!!! At that point I stopped using the pool and instead used the stand up shower to cool off in. I won't even mention the running, screaming and other things that parents seem to think is acceptable. :(

[Tatka]

You bet!!! Tatka, I would bet my bottom dollar that you would never see my kids or your son pulling such antics, because I sense that you, like I are a strict yet loving parent. After the behavior and attitudes I saw from the children and then their parents reactions ("my child is perfect" and "don't bother me, I am on vacation":eek: ), I realized where kids were getting the bad rap. Even my sons commented on their peers unruly behavior. I was so proud of my youngest who came home from the kids club while we were sailing on the Magic with a special Disney pin. He said he had gotten it, because he was the only child in the bunch who said "thank you" for the pizza they were dishing, and the Counselors were impressed.:cool: It's hard work being a parent, but sometimes it pays off.

I am so glad your little one is such a nice kid. :D

My kid tends to get under influence of other kids sometimes (I was the same way btw)..but in most cases he is well behaved boy.

I am relatively young parent compare to the age of our kid (I am almost 33 Mike is almost 13, my DH just turned 32 ) and of course I am still learning how to handle different situations with him, but I noticed that for us it's much easier to talk before we go on vacation/cruise/museum/bbq/other people birthdays what we expect from him...Although now, that he is 12, for the most part he knows very well about what he can/can't do.

I am very grateful to my DH that he taught Mike how to respect our property and other people's things, (even though sometimes I disagreed with his methods)...so I don't see Mike writing anything on the elevator walls or "grabbing ice" (as OP described).

IMHO part of the problem with some people is that they want to have 2-3-4 kids (we all love babies ) but don't acknowledge the fact that they will be required to have enough time for each of them. :rolleyes:

Kids are not cats...You have to pay attention to their activities, study, behavior. It's not enough to just feed them. This was one of the deciding factors why we have only 1 son.

[dst]

Tatka:

I truly wish everyone thought the way you do as a parent....or at least you were on our crusie :)

Your son will grow up to be a fine young man

[kryos]

I am anticipating the day when one of these "adventurous" crumb snatchers decides to show his friends how brave he is by climbing on the outside rail and toppling over. I`d hate to see it happen, but maybe parents then would keep their kids with them at all times......jean :cool:
If a child acted up on an airplane, especially with the parent sitting idly by doing nothing about it, I would imagine there would be police waiting at the terminal when they landed.

If a child created such a problem onboard an aircraft as to endanger the safety of the flight, I'm sure the parent would have hell to pay.

Same should hold true for cruise ships.

Sure children have the right to have a great time ... just as much right as their adult counterparts have. But, by the same token, there are rules to abide by ... rules put into place to ensure their safety and the safety and wellbeing of everyone else aboard the ship.

I say that when children are behaving in an unruly manner as to present a risk to themselves or other passengers ... the parents should get a couple of warnings ... no more. If they refuse to take control of their kids, then the entire family should be put off at the next port. No refunds. No exceptions.

Same goes for any adult passenger that can't follow the few common sense rules of travel safety aboard a cruise ship.

Blue skies ...

--rita

[dexter]

I have to tell you about an instance that occurred on the Carnival Glory last summer. I have talked about this cruise before because there were over 900 kids on board and it totally ruined our vacation. This will point out how kids sometimes rule their parents. My wife and I were online for dinner and we were behind a young couple and two young kids. I saw the little boy pull the little girls hair at which time she responded by slapping him. The father leaned down and said something to the girl. She then slapped him in the face and began shouting at him in Italian. The father and the mother just stood there like that was normal behavior. Several folks who saw this couldn't believe it. If I had struck my father at that age, or any age, for that matter I would have been removed from the ship immediately by my father. I would have learned to swim at a very early age...all the way back to Cozumel. I know this isn't a popular slogan anymore but here goes..."spare the rod spoil the child". I certainly never struck my child with a "rod", but the punishment suited the "crime".

[Tatka]

The father leaned down and said something to the girl. She then slapped him in the face and began shouting at him in Italian. The father and the mother just stood there like that was normal behavior. Several folks who saw this couldn't believe it. If I had struck my father at that age, or any age, for that matter I would have been removed from the ship immediately by my father. I would have learned to swim at a very early age...all the way back to Cozumel. I know this isn't a popular slogan anymore but here goes..."spare the rod spoil the child". I certainly never struck my child with a "rod", but the punishment suited the "crime".
This was probably the family that practices alot of spanking...which they thought was not approptiate to do infront of other people. (Unfortunately girl knew that too ;) )

[jhannah]

This was probably the family that practices alot of spanking...which they thought was not approptiate to do infront of other people. (Unfortunately girl knew that too ;) )I disagree. This is simply a sign of no discipline whatsoever!

[Thumpr]

[QUOTE=jfishe] But, if I see a kid doing something that they shouldn't be, especially if it's dangerous, I'm going to ask them, with respect, to stop, just as I would hope if my son was doing something inappropriate an adult would ask him to stop

Well see the problem with that is that the parents see that as a threat to there kid and they sometimes have problems with it.

[merryecho]

Funny, it seems that the parents of brats must be illiterate- I have never seen a post from anyone saying, "I let my kid do whatever he wants because I feel like it". In short, everyone thinks their kid is perfect, it's everyone else who is the problem.

[Vicar]

Let me tell you

My Parents were Joan Crawford and Bing Crosby *LOL* They loved us and both worked to give my sisters and me a very advantaged life.

HOWEVER ..they did not take SH** from any of us. Okay we didn't get the wire hangers and electrical cords, but we were taught to tow the line or we would get a swat on the fanny. My parents told us ONCE and we had better listen.

TATKA , just like you I am a rather young parent (37) of a 17 year old daughter . I brought my daughter up the same way. Thank God she was a better child than I ever was *LOL* but she still had her moments.

mind you my ex and I were both 20 when we had her and we were divorced when she was 4. No matter what the status of her mothers and my relationship was throughout the years (it has ranged from wanting to re unite, to hating eachother, to putting up with eachother, to the current state of good friends) we were always united in raiseing our daughter.

Today she is a beautiful girl with a beautiful heart and soul. An honor student and one of the popular crowd in school. TOO DAMN POPULAR *LOL*

My greatest pleasure in life is when a teacher, other parent, or her employer compliments her to me.

What my ex and I did to make my daughter the person she is today was hard work, but not impossible.

Having a baby is not a cute thing to do, or the current fad , or what you do after you get married so your family stops asking "When are ya gonna have kids ?" its bringing a person into the world and shaping them into becoming someone special.

Trust me I was only 20 when my daughter was born, I was hardly Father Knows Best right off the bat. But over time and after finally getting my priorities straight I learned that raiseing a child into a good and decent person is the most important job in the world.

[localady]

Funny, it seems that the parents of brats must be illiterate- I have never seen a post from anyone saying, "I let my kid do whatever he wants because I feel like it". In short, everyone thinks their kid is perfect, it's everyone else who is the problem.
You obviously do not know me or my children!:eek: I know my children are not by a long shot perfect, but I have worked hard to teach my children manners and I am told by others that it shows.:cool:

[Tatka]

I learned that raiseing a child into a good and decent person is the most important job in the world.
Wow...I completely understand...but it's amazing how your words are completely the same as my mothers' !

My parents had me when they were 20 and 19... ( Now 53 and 52)Till this point I can't find the parents who would give ALL their time to their kids like mine did. (I am sure they exist, just hadn't meet them yet)

As long as I can remember my parents were doing something with me/for me. If we rode a bus or subway we had to solve some mathematical sharades. I had schedule for every hour after my kindergarten. (One hour we read, another we painted, etc.) We lived in the middle of the continent (10-12 hours to the sea on the sleeping train), they would schedule their vacations so one of them could spend one month with me there and another another month (so I wouldn't spend summer in the city and they can spend quality time with me). Almost the same they did with my younger sister.

Now pressure is on me...I am trying. It's not always easy, but when your parents set high standards you gotta follow them.;)

By the way.. (and here I have to disagree!!!) My mother thinks that cruises are more for us and we have to do something specially for Mike .

(She took him to the Universal Studios, Epcot and Canaveral for example.)

[Tatka]

Funny, it seems that the parents of brats must be illiterate- I have never seen a post from anyone saying, "I let my kid do whatever he wants because I feel like it". In short, everyone thinks their kid is perfect, it's everyone else who is the problem.
My son is not an angel too...Kids can't be, but there are places and times where they can run, scream and let their energy out etc. (for example sports ;) )

Cruise isn't a prison. There is time in ports when kids can run and scream on the beach. I am not sure but I think there are places on the ship where kids can have their "kids" time too.

[ekerr19]

Funny, it seems that the parents of brats must be illiterate- I have never seen a post from anyone saying, "I let my kid do whatever he wants because I feel like it". In short, everyone thinks their kid is perfect, it's everyone else who is the problem.

Oh, believe me - they're here! I've seen many posts by parents saying they don't care what the rules are, if their precious child wants to swim in the Aft pool during the adult swim times - he will! Also, they don't care if the child is not potty trained - he's wearing a swim diaper - so the rest of us that have a problem with, well, I've seen the attitude, "it's our vacation, we paid for it and we'll do whatever we want"!

They don't seem to be posting much lately - but they are out there :)

[peaches from georgia]

Conceding that all the CC posters kids are well-behaved (and it wouldn't surprise me at all if they were) we must also assume that not all the parents of badly mannered and wild kids are going to control them. So what then.

I think it's the ship's job to see to it that not only are safety concerns re unsupervised children/teenagers addressed, but that the vacations of all the other pax on the ship are not ruined by these hellions. This has been my big gripe and the big reason we won't cruise the Caribbean in the summer or during school holidays. I think the cruiseline has an equal, or maybe even bigger, responsibility to see to it that the ship be just as enjoyable for all the pax as it would be if these families were not aboard. Too bad if these families get mad and won't sail HAL again if they are made to look after their kids. Maybe we won't sail HAL again if the rules and a civil ambience are not maintained on the ships.

It won't take much on these 7 day Caribbean cruises to turn the Vista ships into another Carnival. :(

[jhannah]

My mother thinks that cruises are more for us and we have to do something specially for Mike. (She took him to the Universal Studios, Epcot and Canaveral for example.)Would she like another grandson, albeit one who is older than she is??? :D I love those places!!

[dst]

ekerr: I would have like to asked those parents to have paid for my trip then. Why do they feel that becasue they are on vacation they don't have to take care of their children.

I did not blame HAL for not enforcing the rules I blame the parents for being so ignorant to others around them. How would an adult feel if I just decided to pee in the pool.....*LOL* I bet that would not be accepted, so why are diapers??

[Tatka]

Would she like another grandson, albeit one who is older than she is??? :D I love those places!!
Don't know about more grandkids (although she would love them) but she is always looking for new friends.

I am trying to convince her to take a cruise... I'll let you know and you can plan accordingly.;)

[Vicar]

Tatka,

What your parents did for you was wonderful and it paid off because you learned from them and are appling those same principles to your son.

My parents were they same way. I tease that they were Joan and Bing *LOL* but they were strict. But they were also very loving and did spend a great deal of quality time with us despite both of them working very long hours. We never wanted for any creature comfort, went on many wonderful trips.

You are so right about your parents setting the standard for you being a parent. Although I would never be able to fill my parents shoes, I did the best I could and thank God it worked.

Ya know its funny my Mom is similar to yours in a way. She always says as good as parents as you are and as much as you do for your kids, you must always set a little time for yourself as a couple. Get away or have a night or weekend without the kids. GF and I are also raiseing her 6 year old son so its kind of like starting all over with a boy now *LOL*.

I can't be the total last word with him like I was with mine, but he is a good boy and he is learning :)

Its a pretty big accomplishment to raise a good kid these days

[idiebabe]

You're right the parents set the standards and today the parents DON'T discipline their children and they turn their cheeks at the bad behavior. Then they defend it by accusing people of being "child haters". I raised three of my own and I am sick to death of paying good money in restaurants, cruises, airplanes, etc. to have my experience ruined by parents allowing their children to do what they want. My kids were not raised to run around tables in Dining Rooms, kick the back of seats on airplanes, screech and stand on chairs in restaurants, etc. They were raised to be aware of their behavior and have consideration for other people. Something parents are not doing today. Unfortunately, if the parents really cared about their children they would discipline them because obnoxious kids grow up to be obnoxious adults and very unlikeable!!!

I disagree with the poster with regards to planes. I have been on several flights with a "seat kicker" behind me, a child playing with the tray, children running thru the aircraft, etc. and not a word said by the parents or the flight attendants. The reason the cruise lines, restaurants, flight attendants don't say anything is they don't want to "offend". They are instructed by Management NOT to say anything. I know this for a fact.

We were on the Glory the end of April and there were three girls, ages 8 - 12, literally running thru the Dining Room every night. Not one word said by either the parents or the staff. The girls bumped into passengers' chairs while they were eating and they almost collided with a server with a tray of hot soup. Fortunately, no one was hurt. Several passengers complained to their own wait staff and they just shook their head but not a word said.

I always make a comment on the cards and have sent emails. Maybe when enough people complain Management will start caring about all of us who have to tolerate it. Our cruises cost us a lot of money. We drink, gamble, spend it in the shops, shore tours, etc. and have a right to enjoy our vacation!

[peaches from georgia]

You're right the parents set the standards and today the parents DON'T discipline their children and they turn their cheeks at the bad behavior. Then they defend it by accusing people of being "child haters". I raised three of my own and I am sick to death of paying good money in restaurants, cruises, airplanes, etc. to have my experience ruined by parents allowing their children to do what they want. My kids were not raised to run around tables in Dining Rooms, kick the back of seats on airplanes, screech and stand on chairs in restaurants, etc. They were raised to be aware of their behavior and have consideration for other people. Something parents are not doing today. Unfortunately, if the parents really cared about their children they would discipline them because obnoxious kids grow up to be obnoxious adults and very unlikeable!!!

I disagree with the poster with regards to planes. I have been on several flights with a "seat kicker" behind me, a child playing with the tray, children running thru the aircraft, etc. and not a word said by the parents or the flight attendants. The reason the cruise lines, restaurants, flight attendants don't say anything is they don't want to "offend". They are instructed by Management NOT to say anything. I know this for a fact.

We were on the Glory the end of April and there were three girls, ages 8 - 12, literally running thru the Dining Room every night. Not one word said by either the parents or the staff. The girls bumped into passengers' chairs while they were eating and they almost collided with a server with a tray of hot soup. Fortunately, no one was hurt. Several passengers complained to their own wait staff and they just shook their head but not a word said.

I always make a comment on the cards and have sent emails. Maybe when enough people complain Management will start caring about all of us who have to tolerate it. Our cruises cost us a lot of money. We drink, gamble, spend it in the shops, shore tours, etc. and have a right to enjoy our vacation!
AMEN! The only way things will change is if HAL thinks doing nothing about it will hurt their bottom line.

[dst]

Its a pretty big accomplishment to raise a good kid these days

Very good Point Vicar :) Thats why I don't have any (not sure if I coudl do a good job) *LOL*

[jazzsea]

We try very hard not to travel on short cruises in the Caribbean (7 days of less) and stay away from Spring Break, Christmas and summer cruises.

It's too bad but we don't feel like wasting money on trips where there is a good chance of being invaded by unruly children.

We have left movies, restaurants and parties where children were allowed to run wild.

I have confronted children and parents on cruises and find that most tell be to butt out and mind my own business. I reported two boys that were runningthrough the hallways and taking the breakfast menu cards off of the doors. No one from security ever came to my cabin to investigate.

My biggest peeve though is when children play in the elevators and deny space to passengers in wheelchairs. On the Veendam three years ago I ordered four young teens out of an elevator and took them to the hotel manager's office.

I never touch them but I can still (as my adult boys say) hunt bear with a switch.

I don't cruise to be annoyed and I have no problem confronting the issue. However, I would prefer to avoid the problems and cruise when less children are likely to be aboard. Now that we can take more time we seldom cruise for less than ten days. My goal is longer cruises and more exotic locations.

[CDRMark]

Doesn't the thread title sum it up, cruise or no?

[LittleBit0522]

Thumpr and I will cruise. We were thinking that most kids would be in school at the end of August. In most southern states, schools starting Aug. 16. I heard most northern states don't start until Labor Day.:( I was looking forward to less noise this trip. But, life goes on.

[ekerr19]

ekerr: I would have like to asked those parents to have paid for my trip then. Why do they feel that becasue they are on vacation they don't have to take care of their children.

I did not blame HAL for not enforcing the rules I blame the parents for being so ignorant to others around them. How would an adult feel if I just decided to pee in the pool.....*LOL* I bet that would not be accepted, so why are diapers??

dst-

I hear you. The me, me, me and ONLY ME! attitude really turns me off. There are tons of people out there who are like that - we always run into a few of them on a cruise.

On our last cruise, Maasdam, a group of younger boys started calling my 11-yr. daughter nasty names because she wouldn't get out of the pool. Apparently, she was the only girl swimming and they wanted a "boys only" pool. When she ignored them, they started taunting her to the point of tears.

I was reading in the shade and noticed the commotion - a parent of two of the boys was sitting right there and I foolishly thought he'd say something... imagine my surprise when he just sat there and listened to his young sons using profanity against a defenseless young girl!

Boy, I was over there in a heartbeat - and gave them the tongue lashing they deserved - turned to the Dad and all of sudden he acted as if he had no clue whose kids they were!

As my daughter and I walked away, all he said to his sons was "don't embarass me like that" - what a guy, huh? And we wonder why some kids act the way they do...!

[jfishe]

as the parent of a son... ekerr, I can promise you, had that been my son, he'd be eating Dial soap for dinner ! How amazingly rude ! And honestly, why can't people teach children to do unto others as you'd have done to you. I can promise you that none of those boys would have been happy to been called names and taunted. And ahhh... there's always karma, how you treat others, will ALWAYS catch up ... good or bad !

[RevNeal]

...had that been my son, he'd be eating Dial soap for dinner...

Try Lifeboy. It has a longer-lasting zing to it. :D

[trubey]

Just had a thought!!!

If you're being annoyed by a bad kid and a crew member won't do anything about it, threaten to deduct his automatic gratuity from your bill!!!

Lane

[kryos]

The father leaned down and said something to the girl. She then slapped him in the face and began shouting at him in Italian. The father and the mother just stood there like that was normal behavior.
Oh, dear sweet mother of God!

I'd have been dead. No question. If I so much as raised a hand to either one of my parents ... "old school," strict (but loving) Italian parents ... I shudder to think what would have happened.

Blue skies ...

--rita

[localady]

Try Lifeboy. It has a longer-lasting zing to it. :D
Heck no it was the Irish Spring that I remember!!!! It's wonder bouquet lasted ohhhhh so long!!!:eek:

[dst]

ekerr: I think you shoudl ingredible restrant, not beating their father *LOL* I guess to get a driver's license you need to take a test, to get into school you have to take a test.....we may need to institute a test to become a prent!

I am not sure why you guys got a bar of sop my grandparents went right to the liquid Dove! That taste stays with you for a long while

[jfishe]

Heck no it was the Irish Spring that I remember!!!! It's wonder bouquet lasted ohhhhh so long!!!:eek:


heheheh... thanks to my mom's brilliant idea... liquid soap on a toothbrush also leaves a lasting impression !

[ekerr19]

as the parent of a son... ekerr, I can promise you, had that been my son, he'd be eating Dial soap for dinner ! How amazingly rude ! And honestly, why can't people teach children to do unto others as you'd have done to you. I can promise you that none of those boys would have been happy to been called names and taunted. And ahhh... there's always karma, how you treat others, will ALWAYS catch up ... good or bad !

jody-

Thankfully, my son wouldn't dream of behaving like that either. I am still amazed that so many parents will tolerate a potty mouth on their child. We never have, and our kids have know it since they were toddlers.

I don't remember having liquid soap in 60's & 70's when I was a kid, but I do remember as a teen, telling my Mom I was "pissed off" about something - I got some horrible aqua blue colored soap - it was rank! My parents didn't tolerate anything they even remotely thought "might" be profanity. :) I guess that might be where I get it from.

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ekerr: wait a minute I was born in 65 (okay now my age is showing) and we had the liquid soap to do dishes, my grandmother loved to use that; it was quicker and not as messy :)

Its funny when these children grow up imagine how they will treat others.....not very kindly I assume

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ekerr: wait a minute I was born in 65 (okay now my age is showing) and we had the liquid soap to do dishes, my grandmother loved to use that; it was quicker and not as messy :)

Its funny when these children grow up imagine how they will treat others.....not very kindly I assume

Oh, good point! I forgot about the liquid Palmolive... !

[dst]

Now don't get any ideas with your children :)

They will ban you from these boards *LOL*

[lknick]

Now that's another string...CHILDREN TAKE CHARGE OF YOUR PARENTS...

Oh, you always do....

[TedC]

A new BBQ restaurant, The Village Pig, recently opened in nearby Victor, NY, and bans anyone under 25 -years -old from dining there.

Broadcaster Paul Harvey said on the air that it's his new favorite place.

Some people love the idea and others aren't so sure.

Celebrity sometimes has "adults only" cruises.