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martinimadam
March 6th, 2008, 09:33 AM
How much extra does HAL charge a solo cruiser? I know some lines make solos pay 100% more of the per person rate. What does HAL do?
Roz
March 6th, 2008, 09:43 AM
It depends on the time of year and itinerary, but generally you can book an inside or outside solo cabin for 130-175%. The ones I've booked have been around 140%.
Roz
Atomica
March 6th, 2008, 09:45 AM
HAL is one of the better lines in terms of how much the single suppliment is. Depending on your cabin category, you can get one for roughly 140%. Some categories (such as suites) charge 200%, but most insides and outsides should be very affordable. Each HAL brochure has single supplement information on the 'fares' pages that precede the deckplans.
hammybee
March 6th, 2008, 10:48 AM
Occasionally ( rarely) HAL does have a sail and waives the single suppliment.
The lowest single sups are in inside/outside cabins. If you want a balcony or suite it may be necessary to pay the dbl. occupancy rate.
RuthC
March 6th, 2008, 12:29 PM
It depends on the time of year and itinerary, but generally you can book an inside or outside solo cabin for 130-175%. The ones I've booked have been around 140%.
Roz
Roz, I've never seen an inside go for more than 150%. Perhaps on the GWV :confused: , but not even the long, exotic cruises I take.
lorekauf
March 6th, 2008, 03:15 PM
Occasionally ( rarely) HAL does have a sail and waives the single suppliment.
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Like to see that. It never has happened to me.
On another note, I think Princess charges 200% and it sometimes works out cheaper then HAL.
Roz
March 6th, 2008, 04:13 PM
Ruth, maybe I was looking at outside cabins or it was at or near a holiday. Or maybe I just don't remember correctly. :D In any event, I agree with you, HAL is one of the better lines for singles both in terms of fares and service.
Roz
agabbymama
March 6th, 2008, 05:13 PM
I'm not sure what the percentage works out to, but for our Alaska/Yukon cruisetour in August '07, my husband and I were paying $2750 pp for a balcony cabin for cruise/tour/airfare/transfers through HAL. Our friend wanted to go and was willing to book the cabin single, it was going to cost him $4400, so I fantically searched for someone to go with us. We split up and my husband roomed with friend, my sister-in-law roomed with me, so we all ended up paying the $2750.
Hope that helps a little.
RevNeal
March 6th, 2008, 07:15 PM
Nominal Single Supplement rates.
All Inside cabins and Outside cabins without verandah = 150% (i.e, half again as much)
All Outside cabins with verandah = 175%
Suites = 200%
One can usually find sales of various kinds where the ss is cut ... sometimes quite a bit. For instance, on some sailings I've found it as low as 125%. On rarer occasions (and particularly when they're trying to fill a ship and its "the last minute") they'll drop the supplement altogether.
By far, HAL's Single-Supplement rate is superior.
gebo
March 6th, 2008, 07:22 PM
I've booked a single occupancy suite at 200%. What blew my mind was that I had to pay double port charges! Anybody heard of this?
vbmom87
March 6th, 2008, 07:45 PM
My sister booked single on our trip to Alaska for June 2008. The percentage varied between the different cabin categories. Some were 150%, others were less. She ended up with a decent deal.
Aunty Pat
March 6th, 2008, 08:14 PM
Gebo,
Your travel agent or you should have caught the double port charges. For some reason the reservation system at HAL automatically puts in the charges for 2 people and if the agent at HAL doesnt catch it you or your travel agent can have it changed. They also automatically put in double transfers as well.
Aunty Pat
Barefoot Windjammer - Phantom 81
K&D German Rhine Line 84
NCL - Norway 85, Pride of America 05, Southward 87, Star 97 & 05, Starward 92, Sun 02 & Windward 93
RCC - Song of America 89
American Hawaiian - Independence 98
HAL - Volendam 99, Noordam 06, Oosterdam 07, Statendam 02, Prinsendam 03 & 06, Zuiderdam 04, 06 & 07
Carnival - Spirit 05
Celebrity Summit 05
Cruise West - Yorktown Clipper 06
Princess - Golden Princess 07
A & K - East Queen 07
Cunard - QM2 - 08
martinimadam
March 7th, 2008, 10:52 AM
appreciate the info. Is there somewhere I can look to find the cheaper supplements? On their web site? For me, the ship is usually the destination, i.e., I rarely care what the itinerary is. So I'm very flexible that way. But, I do care about service and I've heard HAL's service is great!
RuthC
March 7th, 2008, 11:48 AM
appreciate the info. Is there somewhere I can look to find the cheaper supplements?
If I were you, I would take Greg's info (quoted below)
Nominal Single Supplement rates.
All Inside cabins and Outside cabins without verandah = 150% (i.e, half again as much)
All Outside cabins with verandah = 175%
Suites = 200%
as the basis of my planning, and then be glad if I got a price that came in lower.
I've done many, many cruises paying the single supplement for an inside cabin, and have found that it comes in at the 150% rate consistently.
docksider21
March 7th, 2008, 08:57 PM
You can find the rate of single supplement in
the brochure, which your local TA should have.
You can also download a copy of the brochure
from the HAL website.
You should find supplements of
140% for inside or outside
190% for veranda stateroom
200% for suite.
You best bet for lowest total price is to book a standard inside or a
guarantee. That is class N or NN. HAL ships only have 2 or 3 standard
rooms. All the rest of the staterooms can LARGE staterooms. You
can look up the difference in sq ft in the brochure, but it truly is LARGER.
The I don't want the standard room, so I would never book in N category. Only M -- Large inside or better.
I personal favorite is to book Outside with Fully Obstructed View.
Note -- the Outside Large Staterooms are larger than the Inside Large Stateroom. In particular, the Outsides have a bathtub with shower, and not just a shower. The whole bathroom is therefore bigger. So unless there is a mobility issue with stepping in/out of tub. That is the way to go.
Why the fully obstructed view? Because the obstructed outsides are priced only slightly more than insides, but less than outside views.
So, unless you want the view -- every dollar in room fare difference is really $1.40 because of the supplement. This really is the "sweet spot" for single pricing. You are still at the 140% supplement range, but you have all the amenities and space of the best Outside (non-veranda, non-suite) staterooms.
Enjoy your trip -- Go by ship!
Sundagger
March 7th, 2008, 10:52 PM
I personal favorite is to book Outside with Fully Obstructed View.
Note -- the Outside Large Staterooms are larger than the Inside Large Stateroom. In particular, the Outsides have a bathtub with shower, and not just a shower. The whole bathroom is therefore bigger. So unless there is a mobility issue with stepping in/out of tub. That is the way to go.
Why the fully obstructed view? Because the obstructed outsides are priced only slightly more than insides, but less than outside views.
So, unless you want the view -- every dollar in room fare difference is really $1.40 because of the supplement. This really is the "sweet spot" for single pricing. You are still at the 140% supplement range, but you have all the amenities and space of the best Outside (non-veranda, non-suite) staterooms.
Enjoy your trip -- Go by ship!
I'll second this. In terms of value, my favorite cabins are the obstructed ones on the S & R ships. Verandahs are nice, but the price difference is too large for a lot of us who travel solo.
Sparkydear
March 7th, 2008, 11:35 PM
To martinimadam:
Where is it that you are thinking of going? Have you ever thought of trying to find someone on this site to share a room?
Sparkydear
March 7th, 2008, 11:56 PM
Princess definately charges double, even if you book the night before. HAL has quoted me 150% to go solo on the Black Sea/Egypt/Israel cruise.
Vic The Parrot
March 8th, 2008, 03:30 AM
I'll second this. In terms of value, my favorite cabins are the obstructed ones on the S & R ships. Verandahs are nice, but the price difference is too large for a lot of us who travel solo.
And I third this ... :D ;)
The obstructed view cabins are a great deal, and very comfortable. Even if there's no veranda, or window with an ocean view, still plenty of natural light in there.
I'd pounce on it at the right price. ;)
airlink diva
March 8th, 2008, 04:36 AM
I sailed on HAL a few times solo. Mainly I go for an inside or outside cabin. My rates have varied from 130% to 175%.
Frankly HAL and Carnival solo rates are much cheaper than some of the other major cruiselines. One of my supervisors loves RCCL, I'm curious and want to sail on them, but the only way that I pay 200% is for a suite.
But, even with the solo rate, a cruise is alot cheaper than a land vacation.
I love going to Depoe Bay,Or yearly. By the time that I pay for car rental,hotel,gas and just eating one major meal a day. My weekly trip is twice as much as a cruise.
Happy sailing!!
Second time around and my 40th birthday cruise on the MAASDAM
10/24/08-11/07/08
airlink diva
March 8th, 2008, 04:37 AM
I sailed on HAL a few times solo. Mainly I go for an inside or outside cabin. My rates have varied from 130% to 175%.
Frankly HAL and Carnival solo rates are much cheaper than some of the other major cruiselines. One of my supervisors loves RCCL, I'm curious and want to sail on them, but the only way that I pay 200% is for a suite.
But, even with the solo rate, a cruise is alot cheaper than a land vacation.
I love going to Depoe Bay,Or yearly. By the time that I pay for car rental,hotel,gas and just eating one major meal a day. My weekly trip is twice as much as a cruise.
Happy sailing!!
Second time around and my 40th birthday cruise on the MAASDAM
10/24/08-11/07/08
airlink diva
March 8th, 2008, 04:37 AM
I sailed on HAL a few times solo. Mainly I go for an inside or outside cabin. My rates have varied from 130% to 175%.
Frankly HAL and Carnival solo rates are much cheaper than some of the other major cruiselines. One of my supervisors loves RCCL, I'm curious and want to sail on them, but the only way that I pay 200% is for a suite.
But, even with the solo rate, a cruise is alot cheaper than a land vacation.
I love going to Depoe Bay,Or yearly. By the time that I pay for car rental,hotel,gas and just eating one major meal a day. My weekly trip is twice as much as a cruise.
Happy sailing!!
Second time around and my 40th birthday cruise on the MAASDAM
10/24/08-11/07/08
Vic The Parrot
March 8th, 2008, 04:58 AM
I sailed on HAL a few times solo. Mainly I go for an inside or outside cabin. My rates have varied from 130% to 175%.
Really ?? 130%
Interesting ... my supps are 150% ( I think! :confused: :D
I'll use the trusty TI calculus gizmo next time I get a rate quote from HAL. ;)
airlink diva
March 8th, 2008, 05:03 AM
Really ?? 130%
Interesting ... my supps are only 150% ( I think! :confused: :D
I'll use the trusty TI calculus gizmo next time I get a rate quote from HAL. ;)
On my upcoming sailing, I got very lucky on the rate. HAL was running a sale at the time (outside for inside) and my TA got a great rate! I paid my deposit within a hour (I wasn't at home when she called). The only time that I got a cheaper rate on a cruise was right after 9/11.
Vic The Parrot
March 8th, 2008, 05:23 AM
On my upcoming sailing, I got very lucky on the rate. HAL was running a sale at the time (outside for inside) and my TA got a great rate! I paid my deposit within a hour (I wasn't at home when she called). The only time that I got a cheaper rate on a cruise was right after 9/11.
That's what they mean by being in the right place, at the right time.
You go girl! :D ;)
(On a ship, that is .... ) :)
Vic The Parrot
March 8th, 2008, 05:35 AM
Second time around and my 40th birthday cruise on the MAASDAM
10/24/08-11/07/08[/QUOTE]
Hey!
You're on my "ex-cruise"!!
(It was in my plans, but couldn't make it :( )
kryos
March 8th, 2008, 06:19 AM
Like to see that. It never has happened to me.
On another note, I think Princess charges 200% and it sometimes works out cheaper then HAL.
So does NCL and Carnival. I looked into booking a quickie NCL sailing to Bermuda, leaving right here from Philadelphia. The price was great ... until I found out that the single supplement was 200%. Not such a great deal anymore so I never booked it.
I booked a Carnival cruise on the Paradise this coming September. It's for a convention at sea (only reason I'm sailing Carnival), and I paid a 200% single supplement, plus double port charges. Thankfully, it's a short cruise (four nights) so it wasn't that expensive even with the extra charges.
HAL is certainly one of the better lines for single supplements. The only way to do even better is to step up to a luxury line, where there frequently is no single supplement at all. However, the base cost of your cruise will be much higher there.
Blue skies ...
--rita
lorekauf
March 8th, 2008, 10:49 AM
So does NCL and Carnival. I looked into booking a quickie NCL sailing to Bermuda, leaving right here from Philadelphia. The price was great ... until I found out that the single supplement was 200%. Not such a great deal anymore so I never booked it.
I booked a Carnival cruise on the Paradise this coming September. It's for a convention at sea (only reason I'm sailing Carnival), and I paid a 200% single supplement, plus double port charges. Thankfully, it's a short cruise (four nights) so it wasn't that expensive even with the extra charges.
HAL is certainly one of the better lines for single supplements. The only way to do even better is to step up to a luxury line, where there frequently is no single supplement at all. However, the base cost of your cruise will be much higher there.
Blue skies ...
--rita
Maybe I'm missing your point but what I am saying is that even with the single supp included the Princess cruise is cheaper. I am looking at an Apr.09 cruise to the Caribbean and even with the supp the Princess is about $500 cheaper then HAL. I had a hard time finding a line as much as HAL but I really enjoy Princess.
sailandcruise
March 8th, 2008, 11:10 AM
The web site http://www.*************.com/ticker.cfm?r=0&jpw=107 lists cruises on sale with single supplements less than 50% (or 150% for those who list the total price rather than the add-on).
silvercruiser
March 8th, 2008, 03:35 PM
Here's what I found the last time I researched it.
Single Supplements/cruise ships
Carnival 150-200%
Celebrity 200%
Costa 150-200%
Crystal 124-150%
H-A 150-190%
NCL varies - up to 200%
Princess 125-200%
Radisson 125-200%
Royal Caribbean 200%
Orient Cruise Lines, when they were still in business, attracted many singles because of it's 125% single supplement.
docksider21
March 8th, 2008, 09:30 PM
Maybe I'm missing your point but what I am saying is that even with the single supp included the Princess cruise is cheaper. I am looking at an Apr.09 cruise to the Caribbean and even with the supp the Princess is about $500 cheaper then HAL. I had a hard time finding a line as much as HAL but I really enjoy Princess.
I agree, Rita. It's not the supplement rate that matters as
much as the bottom line. I prefer HAL, but I was able to sail
Princess to Alaska, at 200%, for a reasonable final price.
The rate is only a factor in calculating the bottom line.
Happy Sails to All.;)
u4ea
March 9th, 2008, 10:36 AM
I agree, Rita. It's not the supplement rate that matters as
much as the bottom line. I prefer HAL, but I was able to sail
Princess to Alaska, at 200%, for a reasonable final price.
The rate is only a factor in calculating the bottom line.
Happy Sails to All.;)
You got it! Single supplement based on what? The going price at any agency!
Pricing changes a lot, and so do supplements. All lines VARY as to sailing, but its true that HAL generally has the best deals, thus my loyalty.:cool:
Mark
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NHBob
March 9th, 2008, 11:20 AM
Out of curiosity, just re-checked my fare for my March TA on Zuiderdam, and it works out to a little under 125% of double occupancy rate (Category H outside cabin). This is the lowest supplement I can recall getting on HAL, having normally paid around 140% in the past.
As another poster noted, supplement varies from cruise to cruise - the low one in this case is probably because this is a repositioning cruise.
Bob