Martinis

[etrainer1]

What is your favorite martini? when we were on the constellation, they had a martini bar. soooo many selections. does HAL have an extensive:cool: martini menu? ;)

[Roadwork]

The only REAL MARTINI is made with gin and dry vermouth. One other variation is a vodka martini.

In today's world anything dumped into a martini glass is called a martini. Sacrilegous..........:eek:

[grannynurse]

Cosmos are on special several times during the cruises on the Rotterdam for $6.75. They also have appletinis and chocolate but I don't remember them being on sale. They'll make you whatever you want, I do know that.
GN

[JohnSax]

Grannynurse and all others: I hope we can sail together one day--we are famous for the martini's and cosmo's we serve at our suite cocktail parties--and we won't charge you 6.75 either ;)

[Vicar]

For me a martini is Grey Goose Vodka (have never liked gin) Dry vermouth and an olive. Smoooooooooooth as Red Skelton used to say :)


GF is big on Cosmos (from watching too much Sex in the City *LOL*) Some versions I have tried are okay, some not.

[Krazy Kruizers]

HAL does not have an extensive martini menu. Some of the bar tenders know a few more recipes than others.

If you like a special one and want it made, just tell the bar tender what it consists of, and he will do his best to make it for you.

[CDRMark]

Vodka, shaken so cold your tongue would stick to the shaker, whisper "vermouth" over the glass, and a loooong slice of lemon peel,

grins
Cheers
MarkB

[anniecat]

the blue sapphire martini is just the color of the glacier blue....great to be sipping one watching the Alaska scenery..I wish I had one right now watching the sun set from the Crow's Nest ;)
Anniecat...
Amsterdam Alaska August 8 2004
Ryndam Feb 2005...maybe a switch to Margaritas ?

[etrainer1]

what is in a blue sapphire martini?

[ekerr19]

what is in a blue sapphire martini?
It is probably Bombay Blue Sapphire Gin - expensive, no doubt - I like regular Bombay better...

Favorite - The Bloody Mary Bar with choice of Vodka - Grey Goose or Absolut for me... :) and don't forget those X-tra large shrimps they serve with it ... the heck with the martini :D - give me the Bloody Mary Bar any day... :)

[bepsf]

Mmmmm! Just the way I like it - full of alcohol....

But seriously - the Coral Lemondrop is my fave on HAL...

[MBeamTX]

Grannynurse and all others: I hope we can sail together one day--we are famous for the martini's and cosmo's we serve at our suite cocktail parties--and we won't charge you 6.75 either ;)
Woo, is that an offer, JohnSax?? :D

Happy cruising,
Susan

[Krazy Kruizers]

JohnSax

You didn't mention which ship or what date you will be having that suite cocktail party!

:D

[jazzsea]

DH says that the martini selection is okay. Also says that the bartenders can make up just about anything you might want. He prefers the "dirty martini". Don't ask me. If you want to know I'll get the info from him as to what that is.

[trubey]

Love a Bombay Sapphire martini (no fruit) but they are so STRONG!

In a perfect world, I have Bombay mist with an olive, and a few anchovy-stuffed olives on the side as a meze.

Funny, I just don't like the flavor of the other 'premium' ones -- Tanqueray, Boodles, Beefeater -- and just order Gordon's or well gin if they don't have Bombay.

Lane

[richkat]

I like a Ketel One dirty martini. For some reason I prefer Ketel One over Grey Goose. A "dirty martini" is where they spill some of the olive juice in the martini.

--K

[Jacqueline]

There is one specialty HAL martini I had most nights as a pre dinner cocktail but now I cant think of what they called it !
While I enjoyed the martini bar on the Connie the martinis are every bit as good on HAL and much less expensive.

[etrainer1]

Mmmmm! Just the way I like it - full of alcohol....

But seriously - the Coral Lemondrop is my fave on HAL...
OMG! i just tried the coral lemondrop martini last night, and it was very potent and delicious!:cool:

[elmorejj]

On the Zaandam in the Spring, they had martini hour 5-6pm every evening in the Ocean bar. The drinks were $4.95. I think it depends on who the Food and beverage manager is, as to whether they have many happy hours or specials. On the Z there was happy hours at different times each day in all of the bars.
BTW, what is the bloody mary bar with shrimp? I`ve never come across that one, was it on a HAL ship?...jean :cool:

[dakrewser]

What is your favorite martini?
My favorite pre-dinner cocktail is a Limon Martini, straight up, sipped in the Crow's Nest watching the sun set. But since it's made with rum, it's not really a martini. So I'll have to answer by saying a classic Tanqueray & Noilly Prat, on the rocks with a twist......

[RD64]

Two weeks ago on the Zuiderdam, they had an espresso Martini on the dessert menu - very good if you like coffee...

[ASM]

Sound like some good mixed drinks but my late father-in-law would be horrified! Martini meant gin with vermouth waved over it and one olive, no juice, dropped in. Vodka was acceptable even though the vodka makers paid a fortune to have James Bond drink it and start a trend! :)
I don't drink them at all so I'll sip my boat drinks and leave all the "tinis" to you all!
Espresso martini-that might tempt me!

[FoxyTerrier]

Grannynurse and all others: I hope we can sail together one day--we are famous for the martini's and cosmo's we serve at our suite cocktail parties--and we won't charge you 6.75 either ;)

John, does your cabin steward set you up with martini glasses?

[etrainer1]

Espresso martini-that might tempt me!

now that's a good drink!!! ;)

[Roboat]

My favorite pre-dinner cocktail is a Limon Martini, straight up, sipped in the Crow's Nest watching the sun set. But since it's made with rum, it's not really a martini. So I'll have to answer by saying a classic Tanqueray & Noilly Prat, on the rocks with a twist......I'm definitely with you and ASM! A martini is made with gin. Period. But I've given up fighting the battle and now order a "gin martini", though the redundancy hurts me deeply.;)

I'll have to try that Limon Martini. Is it served from the freezer? With a (lemon?) twist? I love rum!

[dakrewser]

I'll have to try that Limon Martini. Is it served from the freezer? With a (lemon?) twist? I love rum!
You could keep the rum in the freezer, I guess. Since it's best 'straight up', you either need very cold ingredients - or you have to drink fast! :)

It's made with: Bacardi Limon, Cranberry Juice, Dash Dry Vermouth. All shaken, then garnished with a lemon twist.

I first ran into it on the Veendam a number of years ago, and ran thru the Crow's Nest's supply of Limon. Last fall on the Volendam (it was much warmer and more humid :) ) I drank the ship out of it!

[cgoingmom]

My favoriate Martini had been a "Green Apple" until our last trip on the Tahitian Princess. Our cruise director, JJ Ullrich, introduced us to a "Toasted Almond Martini" it is The Best!

[etrainer1]

My favoriate Martini had been a "Green Apple" until our last trip on the Tahitian Princess. Our cruise director, JJ Ullrich, introduced us to a "Toasted Almond Martini" it is The Best!
apple martinis are my favoite too. but the toated almond martini sounds promising. what is in it?:cool:

[ande12]

my favorite martini is gin-no vermouth,socalled "Churchill martini".On Princess you can order "007" martini's-just means "shaken not stirred".

[Mr. Boston]

....Beefeater very cold and very dry with three olives, of course.

Anything without gin is some form of cocktail, not a martini.

[cud b cruzn]

I am surprised that no one has said anything about the olives on board.. they are very small, flavorless, and capable of distroying a perfect martini. I always bring my own and throw a couple in a baggie on the way to the Ocean Lounge. I have also supplied others with a quality olive upon request..I believe a perfect Martini requires a perfect olive..

[F5Loar]

I had thought that HAL was only famous for their signature "Green Apple Martini". I got hooked while attending the Zuiderdam Martini Bartending Class ($5 for an all you can drink in one hour). I keep going back to that Green Apple one so much that I now make them at home to impress my guest.
It goes down so smooth and has such a nice warm glowing feel to it as it sets in upon you. It uses Vodka instead of Gin.

[cgoingmom]

I don't know everything that goes in it but I do know that there is vodka, amaretto, and cream. It has nutmeg on the top. They go down really well, but be careful....They sneak up on you.

[etrainer1]

I had thought that HAL was only famous for their signature "Green Apple Martini". I got hooked while attending the Zuiderdam Martini Bartending Class ($5 for an all you can drink in one hour). I keep going back to that Green Apple one so much that I now make them at home to impress my guest.
It goes down so smooth and has such a nice warm glowing feel to it as it sets in upon you. It uses Vodka instead of Gin.there's a martini bartending class?? is it on all their ships? wow!!! :D

[etrainer1]

I don't know everything that goes in it but I do know that there is vodka, amaretto, and cream. It has nutmeg on the top. They go down really well, but be careful....They sneak up on you.
sounds great! almost sounds like the absolut vanilla vodka and baileys irish cream!!!:D

[peaches from georgia]

I'm confused. :confused: What's with calling everything under the sun a 'martini'? I love a Toasted Almond, but a TA is a TA, not a Toasted Almond Martini. A martini is gin and vermouth; a vodka martini is vodka and vermouth.

But I've never heard of adding all kinds of other ingredients (such as amaretto, cream, cranbery juice, etc.) and calling these drinks martinis. They are what they are, but putting them in a martini glass doesn't make them a martini, or does it?

[etrainer1]

I'm confused. :confused: What's with calling everything under the sun a 'martini'? I love a Toasted Almond, but a TA is a TA, not a Toasted Almond Martini. A martini is gin and vermouth; a vodka martini is vodka and vermouth.

But I've never heard of adding all kinds of other ingredients (such as amaretto, cream, cranbery juice, etc.) and calling these drinks martinis. They are what they are, but putting them in a martini glass doesn't make them a martini, or does it?
it surely does!! we have martini menus in most of our restaurants. the celebrity ships host a martini bar. in other words, they are martinis with flavour! :D

[JohnSax]

Sorry, have been off-line for a while. To all those who enquired about our next HAL cruise and Martini party--it will be November 26 2005 on the Veendam-suite 010. You're ALL invited :)

[Roboat]

I'm confused. :confused: What's with calling everything under the sun a 'martini'? I love a Toasted Almond, but a TA is a TA, not a Toasted Almond Martini. A martini is gin and vermouth; a vodka martini is vodka and vermouth.

But I've never heard of adding all kinds of other ingredients (such as amaretto, cream, cranbery juice, etc.) and calling these drinks martinis. They are what they are, but putting them in a martini glass doesn't make them a martini, or does it?

it surely does!! we have martini menus in most of our restaurants. the celebrity ships host a martini bar. in other words, they are martinis with flavour! :D
Yep. They also serve a Vodka Collins, made with Fresca, strawberry jam and wild rice.
They call ducks "rabbits with flavour." It's a really fun place!
And they say alot a lot! < --- another pet peeve I hate "alot." Abandone hope. All is lost.

= = =
"Anything worth doing well is worth overdoing"

[etrainer1]

Yep. They also serve a Vodka Collins, made with Fresca, strawberry jam and wild rice.
They call ducks "rabbits with flavour." It's a really fun place!
And they say alot a lot! < --- another pet peeve I hate "alot." Abandone hope. All is lost.

= = =
"Anything worth doing well is worth overdoing"
i cant figure out why there is always sarcasm on hal boards!:eek:

[dakrewser]

i cant figure out why there is always sarcasm on hal boards!:eek:

Superior intellects? :rolleyes:

[etrainer1]

Superior intellects? :rolleyes:
that can be possible. but, i think they are just superior opinionated know it alls!:rolleyes:

[Roboat]

i cant figure out why there is always sarcasm on hal boards!:eek:
I wouldn't panic about not being able to figure that out. Perhaps it will come to you in time.
Focus on some of the other things you haven't figured out yet. :D

[etrainer1]

I wouldn't panic about not being able to figure that out. Perhaps it will come to you in time.
Focus on some of the other things you haven't figured out yet. :D
WOW!! A PRIME EXAMPLE OF SARCASM!!!

[trubey]

"Anything worth doing well is worth overdoing"Hey, what gives YOU the right to use the Trubey motto?

Besides, you misquoted it.

"Anything worth doing is worth doing to EXCESS".

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[trubey]

I wouldn't panic about not being able to figure that out. Perhaps it will come to you in time.
Focus on some of the other things you haven't figured out yet. :D
Yeah, like why do Bagels have holes and Bialys not?

Go back to sleep, dear. Everything's ok.

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lkt

[travelingmcmahans]

Had a yummy Candy Apple "Martini" in the Crow's Nest - vanilla vodka was the base, don't know what else was in it but it was pink and wonderful.

[Roboat]

WOW!! A PRIME EXAMPLE OF SARCASM!!!
I know! Thanks!:D

(Now see? You figured out how to use the caps lock key! :) That's a very good start!)

[etrainer1]

I know! Thanks!:D

(Now see? You figured out how to use the caps lock key! :) That's a very good start!)
wow! more sarcasm!!! the boards are to be used for constructive suggestions, not destructive criticizm!

[Roboat]

that can be possible. but, i think they are just superior opinionated know it alls!:rolleyes:Thank you for your constructive suggestion.

Aww, OK, peanut. I'll be quiet. C'mere and gimme a hug. :)

[Roadwork]

I'm confused. :confused: What's with calling everything under the sun a 'martini'? I love a Toasted Almond, but a TA is a TA, not a Toasted Almond Martini. A martini is gin and vermouth; a vodka martini is vodka and vermouth.

But I've never heard of adding all kinds of other ingredients (such as amaretto, cream, cranbery juice, etc.) and calling these drinks martinis. They are what they are, but putting them in a martini glass doesn't make them a martini, or does it?
As I said earlier in this thread, the only REAL MARTINI is gin and vermouth, with a variation of vodka and vermouth.

It is sacrilegious to dump "whatever" into a martini glass and call it a martini.

[etrainer1]

As I said earlier in this thread, the only REAL MARTINI is gin and vermouth, with a variation of vodka and vermouth.

It is sacrilegious to dump "whatever" into a martini glass and call it a martini.
you have a valid point, so,then what do you suggest we call these drinks with vodka and all of the added delicious flavoured liquors? :rolleyes:

[Roadwork]

I think they should be given their own names. Someone mentioned Apple Martinis, maybe an Apple Delight? Perhaps for those chocolate ones, Chocolate Heaven? ;)

Speaking of apples, does anyone remember a Jack Rose? I haven't had one in years but they were great. They were made with Apple Jack, Grenadine, and a sour or collins type mix. Come to think of it I haven't seen true Apple Jack around in years. Do they still sell it?

[etrainer1]

I think they should be given their own names. Someone mentioned Apple Martinis, maybe an Apple Delight? Perhaps for those chocolate ones, Chocolate Heaven? ;)

Speaking of apples, does anyone remember a Jack Rose? I haven't had one in years but they were great. They were made with Apple Jack, Grenadine, and a sour or collins type mix. Come to think of it I haven't seen true Apple Jack around in years. Do they still sell it?
well if you put vodka in it, you would probably call it an apple jack martini!!! hahaha (can't help it):cool:

[dakrewser]

Speaking of apples, does anyone remember a Jack Rose? I haven't had one in years but they were great. They were made with Apple Jack, Grenadine, and a sour or collins type mix. Come to think of it I haven't seen true Apple Jack around in years. Do they still sell it?
Yes, you can still buy Laird's Apple Jack but for a more 'cosmopolitan' drink, substitute Calvados....

-dave

[F5Loar]

The Martini Bartender Class was on the Zuiderdam when we went last year.
I don't recall it being on the Maasdam so I would assume it's not on all ships.
I believe it was on a sea day in the late afternoon lasting about one hour.
The bartender showed the small class of about 20 how to mix and shake the martini demonstrating some 6 specialty mixes. I got my $5 worth and you got to take home the receipe of the ones you sampled along with a signed certificate that you graduated the class. When on the Celebrity Galaxy they had a Martini bar which had many of the same speciality Martinis. Like many other things in our society the original is not always the only. Coke even comes in different varities now. I like the new lime coke. Many land resturants feature the flavored Martini drinks. Just like you can now wear only a sport coat and tie to Formal night on HAL you traditionalist will just have to get over a Martini is not just gin and vermouth!

[trubey]

you have a valid point, so,then what do you suggest we call these drinks with vodka and all of the added delicious flavoured liquors? :rolleyes:
Cosmopolitans.

lkt

[etrainer1]

Cosmopolitans.

lktYES, A COSMO IS A MARTINI WITH COINTREAU, LEMON INFUSED VODKA, CRANBERRY JUICE, AND A SQUEEZED LEMON OR LIME. SO IF YOU PUT OTHER INGREDIENTS INTO VODKA, THEY ALL CANT BE A COSMOPOLITAN MARTINI. THATS WHY WE USE DIFFERENT NAMES FOR THESE FLAVORED VODKA MARTINIS! ;)

[trubey]

YES, A COSMO IS A MARTINI WITH COINTREAU, LEMON INFUSED VODKA, CRANBERRY JUICE, AND A SQUEEZED LEMON OR LIME. SO IF YOU PUT OTHER INGREDIENTS INTO VODKA, THEY ALL CANT BE A COSMOPOLITAN MARTINI. THATS WHY WE USE DIFFERENT NAMES FOR THESE FLAVORED VODKA MARTINIS! ;)
Sorry, I was mistaken! I didn't know a Cosmo was a 'real' drink.

I used to have a bartender in the US who made me what he and I called the 'Gemstone Series' (what else for a jeweler?): they were ice-cold Absolut, served 'up' in huge martini glasses, crystal clear and sparkling like gems.

He made Ruby with Pomegranate juice, Garnet with Cherry Heering, Aquamarine with Blue Curacão, Emerald with Midori; and of course Diamond, with a whisper of Vermouth. The all had more ingredients I'm sure, but I never knew quite what.

Delicious, potent, and HORRIBLY expensive. They actually became quite popular.

I asked him what they were REALLY called, and he shrugged and said, "Cosmopolitans?"

And that's the story. ;)

Lane

[etrainer1]

Sorry, I was mistaken! I didn't know a Cosmo was a 'real' drink.

I used to have a bartender in the US who made me what he and I called the 'Gemstone Series' (what else for a jeweler?): they were ice-cold Absolut, served 'up' in huge martini glasses, crystal clear and sparkling like gems.

He made Ruby with Pomegranate juice, Garnet with Cherry Heering, Aquamarine with Blue Curacão, Emerald with Midori; and of course Diamond, with a whisper of Vermouth. The all had more ingredients I'm sure, but I never knew quite what.

Delicious, potent, and HORRIBLY expensive. They actually became quite popular.

I asked him what they were REALLY called, and he shrugged and said, "Cosmopolitans?"

And that's the story. ;)

Lane
sounds like delicious drinks to me, martini, cosmo, or otherwise!!!:cool:

[dakrewser]

YES, A COSMO IS A MARTINI WITH
No, A cosmopolitan is a cocktail. So is a Martini. They have no relationship to each other any more than a Martini and a Tom Collins do because both are based on gin.

And could you please locate the caps lock key on your keyboard and turn it off? You give the impression that you're constantly yelling at us....

[etrainer1]

No, A cosmopolitan is a cocktail. So is a Martini. They have no relationship to each other any more than a Martini and a Tom Collins do because both are based on gin.

And could you please locate the caps lock key on your keyboard and turn it off? You give the impression that you're constantly yelling at us....
not yelling!:eek:

[peaches from georgia]

Dictionary definition of a martini. Anything else served in what is called a martini glass is a cocktail, but not a martini. :D


mar·ti·ni [ maar tnee ] (plural mar·ti·nis)

noun

cocktail: a cocktail made of gin or vodka with vermouth


[Late 19th century. From Italian Martini , the surname of a winemaker.]

[etrainer1]

Dictionary definition of a martini. Anything else served in what is called a martini glass is a cocktail, but not a martini. :D


mar·ti·ni [ maar tnee ] (plural mar·ti·nis)

noun

cocktail: a cocktail made of gin or vodka with vermouth


[Late 19th century. From Italian Martini , the surname of a winemaker.]
ok. so this is the original martini. but, they somehow evolved with flavors and they are put into a martini glass. the restaurants have called their selection, "martinis", as we order from their martini menu. the celebrity cruise line offers a martini bar, as well. whatever they are called, it doesnt matter to me. i just would like drink suggestions with vodka in it. fair enough?;)

[Krazy Kruizers]

Whatever----

I still like my vermouth poured over ice, then the vermouth drained out of the glass leaving flavored iced cubes to which my Absolut is poured on top.

I think it is past cocktail time - but never too late for a martini.

[Lois R]

Hi:) sorry that it is so offensive to some when we call those drinks the nicknames they are given.

We have a few restaurants around here with FULL MARTINI MENUS....(sorry about the caps Dave)..it was just for emphasis.
Anyway, maybe the merchants would be better off taking those titles off their menus then?.....I can just start saying, "I want a shot of chambord, vodka, and pinapple juice with an orange twist"...no name to the drink;)

Oh wait...it was that Coral Lemon Drop I will be trying on the Z....hope its as good as everyone says:D

[etrainer1]

Hi:) sorry that it is so offensive to some when we call those drinks the nicknames they are given.

We have a few restaurants around here with FULL MARTINI MENUS....(sorry about the caps Dave)..it was just for emphasis.
Anyway, maybe the merchants would be better off taking those titles off their menus then?.....I can just start saying, "I want a shot of chambord, vodka, and pinapple juice with an orange twist"...no name to the drink;)

Oh wait...it was that Coral Lemon Drop I will be trying on the Z....hope its as good as everyone says:D
LOIS
it is quite good! i tried it last week, and it was all the rave at the bar that night! ENJOY!

[Lois R]

:) Ellen...don't you worry:D .....I will be trying it!

[trubey]

Dictionary definition of a martini. Anything else served in what is called a martini glass is a cocktail, but not a martini. :D
Then there is the Gibson, which is served in a martini glass; exactly like a Martini but with only a few drops of white vermouth, and a cocktail onion.

Then there is a Mist, exactly like a Gibson but served in a short glass over crushed ice with either an olive or a twist.

. . . . . ad nauseum.

What's the WORST sounding cocktail you've ever heard of? My DW used to tend bar in a hotel and somebody once ordered a Kahlua Collins. . . .

Might make a funny thread! Up for it, Digby?

Lane

[sydgrif]

I was on the Rotterdam VI in May, and fell "in love" with their version of the apple martini . . . They use Absolut Vanilla, and they rim the martini glass with super fine sugar . . . It is WONDERFUL! YUM YUM YUM

Since then, I have served them to friends, and they were all VERY impressed.

[etrainer1]

I was on the Rotterdam VI in May, and fell "in love" with their version of the apple martini . . . They use Absolut Vanilla, and they rim the martini glass with super fine sugar . . . It is WONDERFUL! YUM YUM YUM

Since then, I have served them to friends, and they were all VERY impressed.
so, didnt they also add pucker, which is an apple liquor or something similiar?

[dexter]

Crows nest was also serving a sidecar which looked great. I had mostly vodka and vermouth with olives, but I tried a cosmo and it was delicious.