bathrobes on HAL

[dakacz]

Are there bathrobes in the cabins on HAL ships. We have had them on celebrity & princess.

Dotty

[jtl513]

Yes. And if you need something extra large or extra small just ask your steward. :)

[marcyjane]

Hate to ask kinda the same question, but on some cruise lines I've been on the robes are only in suite cabins.

Are they in all types of cabins on HAL. Will be on Oosterdam cat.VD

Thanks,
Marcy

[LindaJ+]

We had them on Oosterdam ... we were in a 5th deck verandah.

Never used them, though. I thought it was so odd to see people walking around the ship in bathrobes ... I suppose they were going to the spa or pool or something.

[agabbymama]

I had a VD balcony cabin on Zuiderdam and we had robes. I used it a lot, to sit out on the balcony. I didn't walk around the ship with it on.

[MightyQuinn]

Are there bathrobes in the cabins on HAL ships. We have had them on celebrity & princess.

Dotty
Yup - HAL provides bathrobes in all the staterooms. And if you really get attached to it, you can take one home - monogrammed no less! For a price, of course. I bought one for my DH several years ago & he still (proudly) parades around in it to this day.

[marcyjane]

Thanks that's good to know. I think I'm going to really like HAL and I hear the service is above and beyond other cruise lines I've been on.

Thanks,
Marcy

[CSTX Mom]

We had them on Oosterdam ... we were in a 5th deck verandah.

Never used them, though. I thought it was so odd to see people walking around the ship in bathrobes ... I suppose they were going to the spa or pool or something.

They were also on the Westerdam. There were several people that showed up to the shows in the afternoon on the last day in their bathrobes, which I thought was very tacky.

[Krazy Kruizers]

HAL started to supply bathrobes in all cabins on all the ships as each one went through their signature of excellence program.

HAL also has the European beds.

And lots of choices for pillows.

[Sailorgirlseattle]

HAL also has the European beds.

And lots of choices for pillows.

HAL has THE BEST beds and pillows ... omg!!

This is weird follow-up to the original question: Do you get to KEEP the robes in the suites? I've been confused on that one for a long while.

[cf_chuck]

HAL has THE BEST beds and pillows ... omg!!

This is weird follow-up to the original question: Do you get to KEEP the robes in the suites? I've been confused on that one for a long while.

NO. If you want a bathrobe to keep, it will cost. If you take one by mistake, they'll charge you.

You can order robes and have them monogrammed as part of the price. They do the monogramming after you get on the ship, and I assume that the robe that you get will be a new one rather than one that has been used by someone else on a previous cruise.

[our turn]

Yes. And if you need something extra large or extra small just ask your steward. :)

On the Westerdam, our steward said one size only. DH loved his but mine was way too big to be comfortable. Not a problem because I would rather have my own.

[Boytjie]

Hate to ask kinda the same question, but on some cruise lines I've been on the robes are only in suite cabins.

Are they in all types of cabins on HAL. Will be on Oosterdam cat.VD

Thanks,
Marcy

We had then in VD 4043 onthe Zuiderdam, also in a Lower Promenade Obstructed Outside cabin on the Amsterdam.

[RoupMom]

My understanding is that robes are offered in every cabin. They were in our view (not suite) on the Amsterdam about 4 years ago on our Alaska cruise. They are the most comfortable robe I've ever had! I purchased one as a great souvenir, as they seemed to be no more expensive than what you would find in a store. They said to get it monogramed you needed to place your order no later than 2 days before disembarkation, but I ordered only the day before and have my initials beautifully sewn on. And you do get a brand new robe, not the one you wore all week (or two or more) in your cabin. BTW, they wash beautifully, too.

[sail7seas]

All cabins on all ships have use of robes for all cruises.

All must buy them if they wish to take them home.

There are some packages that people buy that include robes but they have paid additional for them.....even Suite guests.

I agree they are nice robes and wash well but I have always preferred the traditional terry. These new ones have 'grown on me' though. :)

[yyankees37@yahoo.com]

what happes if take the bathrobes from the room i am curious:)

[DKNYC]

I think they add it to your bill.

[sail7seas]

what happes if take the bathrobes from the room i am curious:)

Same as in any hotel. You take it; you pay for it. They have your name, address and credit card number. :)

[Jade13]

what happes if take the bathrobes from the room i am curious:)

You can purchase a new one on board for $49.95 and they will add your monogram.

[AlohaPride]

You can purchase a new one on board for $49.95 and they will add your monogram.

I think its less if you don't add the monogram. I would actually pass on adding it because they don't know where to put it when they do.

Ours are just above our waist not up on our chests. Weird placing of the stitching. But I LOVE my robe and wear it daily!

[forensic]

We had them on Oosterdam ... we were in a 5th deck verandah.

Never used them, though. I thought it was so odd to see people walking around the ship in bathrobes ... I suppose they were going to the spa or pool or something.


You are NOT suppose to wear them outside of your cabin. They are for use IN your cabin. Those that wear them to buffet, pool etc. are the 'unclassed'! They belong on Carnival.

[forensic]

HAL has THE BEST beds and pillows ... omg!!

This is weird follow-up to the original question: Do you get to KEEP the robes in the suites? I've been confused on that one for a long while.

For a price $$$$:eek:

[jannandjohn]

what happes if take the bathrobes from the room i am curious:)
do you mean "steal" them..or wear them somewhere else on the ship??:eek:

[Moriah]

Yes, I read it "take" and not "steal" as well. On my last cruise I wore the robe from my room when I went to the spa, and carried clothes to change into after showering after my treatment. When I got out of the shower my robe had been shipped off efficiently to laundry or wherever used robes go.. and when I reported that to the spa staff explaining that I did not want anyone to think I'd stolen the robe from my room, they said oh no worries, don't give it a thought. I did, however, tell my cabin steward as well, and after dinner when we returned to the cabin there was a fresh robe hanging on the wall hook for me. I was not charged for a robe. So I think you are on the "honor system" with that.
Moriah

[cf_chuck]

what happes if take the bathrobes from the room i am curious:)
You'll be charged for it.

[Krazy Kruizers]

I think its less if you don't add the monogram. I would actually pass on adding it because they don't know where to put it when they do.

Ours are just above our waist not up on our chests. Weird placing of the stitching. But I LOVE my robe and wear it daily!

That's a dumb place for for the monogram!!

HAL should have made a new set of robes for you.

[Krazy Kruizers]

what happes if take the bathrobes from the room i am curious:)

When you get your credit card bill -- there will be a charge on it for the robe(s).

[Sailorgirlseattle]

Thanks :)

[pipedreams62]

http://www.mattmatarazzo.com/images/bathrobe.jpg

[Jade13]

Hate to ask kinda the same question, but on some cruise lines I've been on the robes are only in suite cabins.

Are they in all types of cabins on HAL. Will be on Oosterdam cat.VD

Thanks,
Marcy

Yes, HAL has robes in all cabins as well as fruit and Elenis Spa products.

[jtl513]

Yes, HAL has robes in all cabins as well as fruit and Elenis Spa products.Be sure to fill out the "fruit selection" card early on, or you don't get any! My DD learned that the hard way! :D

[marcyjane]

Yes, HAL has robes in all cabins as well as fruit and Elenis Spa products.

I'm loving HAL more by the day. Or do they charge for the fruit if you eat it and the Spa products.

Sorry to ask and reply to so many question, but just trying to learn all I can about HAL and the Oosterdam.
On the RCI Marine last month the fridge was full, but it you took anything out a charge for whatever you did was charged to your account.

Thanks so much:)
Marcy

[sail7seas]

No, Marcy. There is no additional charge for fruit in your cabin nor for the Elemis products. They provide face soap, bath soap, shampoo, conditioner and bath gel. Lovely, high quality products that are provided in your cabin. WE enjoy them all.

[Loodie]

It is surprising that many people do not realize that a bathrobe is not an appropriate pool cover-up. You wouldn't walk around a hotel on land or into its restaurant in a bathrobe, why would you think its appropriate on a ship?
And what is this idea, "What if I took it home after the cruise, anyway?" What do you think they would do if you took the TV?

[Jade13]

I'm loving HAL more by the day. Or do they charge for the fruit if you eat it and the Spa products.

Sorry to ask and reply to so many question, but just trying to learn all I can about HAL and the Oosterdam.
On the RCI Marine last month the fridge was full, but it you took anything out a charge for whatever you did was charged to your account.

Thanks so much:)
Marcy

There is no extra charge for the Elemis bath products or daily fruit. You also can send your shoes to be shined.

[jtl513]

I'm loving HAL more by the day.

On the RCI Marine last month the fridge was full, but it you took anything out a charge for whatever you did was charged to your account.
On HAL, if you want to use the fridge for your own drinks etc, ask the steward to empty it and you won't be charged anything.

[marcyjane]

Yes, HAL has robes in all cabins as well as fruit and Elenis Spa products.

Be sure to fill out the "fruit selection" card early on, or you don't get any! My DD learned that the hard way! :D


Sorry, but where do you get the "fruit selection" card to fill out? Is there a card in your cabin when you arrive on the ship?

Thanks,
Marcy

[jtl513]

Sorry, but where do you get the "fruit selection" card to fill out? Is there a card in your cabin when you arrive on the ship?

Thanks,
MarcyYes, it'll either be in the pile of stuff on the desk or in the wire fruit basket on the table by the sofa.

[sail7seas]

I have never seen/received such a card in a great many HAL cruises but have seen people mention it here. Speak with your steward if you don't see a card in your cabin. We have always received a filled fruit bowl every cruise and it is refreshed as needed throughout the cruise.

[jtl513]

I have never seen/received such a card in a great many HAL cruises but have seen people mention it here. Speak with your steward if you don't see a card in your cabin. We have always received a filled fruit bowl every cruise and it is refreshed as needed throughout the cruise.
Just automatic in suites, hunh? :D

[Boytjie]

Yes, it'll either be in the pile of stuff on the desk or in the wire fruit basket on the table by the sofa.

On our last cruise we did not have one and had to ask for it. We also had to ask a couple of times for the room service order card to be hung on the door.

[sail7seas]

Thanks, John. Shows what I know. :o

[marcyjane]

Everyone have a great rest of the week-end and Thank you all so much for all the information and tips your posting about HAL and the Oosterdam.

I have just in the last couple of days found out things that I had no idea HAL provided in the cabins and how nice they are and I can't wait, but I've got a long wait til my cruise to Europe next summer, but a lot of time to find more things out about HAL.

Keep the tips coming!!:D

Thanks so much,
Marcy

[AlohaPride]

I guess I'm one of the "unclassed" (is that a word?) people because I wore a robe between the spa and my room daily. I always took the back (less populated) route back to my room. I would go to the gym with a bag packed containing my swim suite, work out, grab my hydropool/thermalsuite pass, go to the locker/ladies room, change and rinse off, enjoy a few hours in the spa, shower in the spa ladies room, and use the robe as a cover up to get back to my room and dress. I couldn't figure out a way to pack in the one HAL shore bag a suit, change of clothing, shoes, a hair brush, and the like.

And from someone who lives in a "beach culture" who frequents resorts multiple times a year, I have worn a robe as a cover up to get to the pool/beach and never thought twice about it.

I've NEVER thought of myself as having a lack of class, but I guess you can lump me in that group.

[CSTX Mom]

To me there is a big difference between wearing a robe going between your room and the spa or even the pool and wearing it other places. I don't find it acceptable for bathrobes to be in the Lido or in the lounges during shows.

[Moriah]

To me there is a big difference between wearing a robe going between your room and the spa or even the pool and wearing it other places. I don't find it acceptable for bathrobes to be in the Lido or in the lounges during shows.

I completely agree! OMG it would NEVER occur to me to wear a robe to the Lido or .... a show????!!! As I said in an above post, I wore mine from my room to spa for an AM treatment - didn't see the point in getting dressed just to undress 5 minutes later - and we were very close to the forward stairs so I just tucked right up to the spa in my robe. I see people in elevators in robes though and it doesn't bother me. I assume they're doing what I did, or going to the pool, which I also think is okay in a robe, so count me low-brow as well. But really - robes to a lounge for a show! Gotta love some people's "don't give a rip" mentality! Maybe we should admire their attitudes? :confused: ;)
Jody

[Loodie]

But really - robes to a lounge for a show! Gotta love some people's "don't give a rip" mentality! Maybe we should admire their attitudes? :confused: ;)
Jody

I think the robe to the spa is legit. To the pool? I guess it's where you are going before and after.:rolleyes: Where it really got my attention was when I saw robes in the Lido and in the lounges (at tea or bingo). Inappropriate. I'm not judging someone's "class" but their lack of consideration for the other guests. You wouldn't wear a bathrobe in a restaurant on land so why onboard a ship? A pool coverup is generally lighter and easier to carry than a bathrobe anyway. It looks better, draws less attention and is more in keeping with the shipboard decorum. I don't want to sit down for formal tea with someone who looks like they just got out of the shower.:eek: Put on your clothes! For the majority of cruisers, this is a major vacation experience for them and the general atmosphere of the ship is part of the vacation experience.

[sail7seas]

You are NOT suppose to wear them outside of your cabin. They are for use IN your cabin. Those that wear them to buffet, pool etc. are the 'unclassed'! They belong on Carnival.


I've been trying to find that rule and can't seem to. Is it written somewhere? Thanks.

[Jade13]

I have never seen/received such a card in a great many HAL cruises but have seen people mention it here. Speak with your steward if you don't see a card in your cabin. We have always received a filled fruit bowl every cruise and it is refreshed as needed throughout the cruise.


We have also had the fruit basket upon embarkation on every cruise.

[Jade13]

Just automatic in suites, hunh? :D

They have been waiting for us on every HAL cruise and we are not in a Suite.

[cf_chuck]

They have been waiting for us on every HAL cruise and we are not in a Suite.

The last cruise I was on (Feb 08 Volendam) there was a card that I had to fill out requesting the desired fruit. The previous cruise (Oct 07 Zaandam) had a selection of fruit available on embarkation. In neither case was I in a suite. So, either the plan has changed or the fruit deal depends on the ship.

[Loodie]

I've been trying to find that rule and can't seem to. Is it written somewhere? Thanks.

HAL's web site, under packing, suggests bringing a cover-up to wear when in transit from poolside to public areas of ship. They don't suggest using the bathrobe. I figure they were thinking the robe was something you might like to have in your stateroom for before and after your bath. :D

[vbmom87]

The last cruise I was on (Feb 08 Volendam) there was a card that I had to fill out requesting the desired fruit. The previous cruise (Oct 07 Zaandam) had a selection of fruit available on embarkation. In neither case was I in a suite. So, either the plan has changed or the fruit deal depends on the ship.

I saw no card on my recent cruise on the Volendam. (June, 2008) However, my steward missed so many things, that it is possible we were supposed to get it. I was surprised the bowl was sitting empty after I had read on these boards that a fruit bowl would be waiting for us in our room. At some point our steward did ask us if we would like some fruit and we did ask for bananas and green apples. He did fill it and after that he did add fruit as we used it up.

[ellbelle]

On our recent Alaska Volendam cruise my husband observed a couple in the casino gambling in their HAL bathrobes. NO, I am not kidding! This was in the evening after dinner, I guess they were "almost" ready for bed...:confused:

Cheryl

[dan40]

You are NOT suppose to wear them outside of your cabin. They are for use IN your cabin. Those that wear them to buffet, pool etc. are the 'unclassed'! They belong on Carnival.

Is that a Carnival rule or a HAL rule? Because I understand that Carnival, even though they own HAL, still ALLOWS HAL to make its own rules.

Dan

[sail7seas]

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Changed my mind.

[AlohaPride]

deleted. :D
Changed my mind.

Well, "DAM" it, now I'm curious!! lol

:D :p

Robe to dinner? No way.

Robe to the pool or spa? You bet.

I might even wear it in the lido while I was grabbing something quick to eat at the pool. Or, I might bring a large shirt to cover up with (how that's any better, I have no clue). I guess you just never know what I'm going to do.

I just refuse to walk around in pants and a wet suit so that people think I soiled myself :eek:

[Loodie]

Is that a Carnival rule or a HAL rule? Because I understand that Carnival, even though they own HAL, still ALLOWS HAL to make its own rules.

Dan
I've not seen the "rules" for either line. I think its more of a common courtesy than a written rule. Bath robe not appropriate dining room dress no matter of the time of day, except perhaps in your own kitchen. In that modern materials that are used in swimwear nowadays dry so quickly, I've never had a problem with a wet suit after 5 to 10 minutes of leaving the pool. :D

[cf_chuck]

On any cruise I've been on, there always seems to be a set of people that I consider "boorish" in their dress or behavior. Wearing a bathrobe outside of the cabin, for any reason other than a dire emergency, is boorish in my mind. I don't accept the excuses offered about going to the spa any more than I accept the excuse that someone needed their morning caffeine fix and showed up in the Lido. The pragmatics are, if I pass someone with their robe on, I have no idea where they are headed or why getting dressed in an appropriate manner is so much of an effort as to warrant the need to avoid common dress courtesy. And, frankly, I don't care, I make a mental note, move on and avoid any future engagement with the person.

Never having been in a delux suite, what is the acceptable practice for the Neptune Lounge? Are bathrobes acceptable throughout the day, or at any time?

[dan40]

I've not seen the "rules" for either line. I think its more of a common courtesy than a written rule. Bath robe not appropriate dining room dress no matter of the time of day, except perhaps in your own kitchen. In that modern materials that are used in swimwear nowadays dry so quickly, I've never had a problem with a wet suit after 5 to 10 minutes of leaving the pool. :D

My comment was made in regard to another poster bashing another line. Saying those that wear a robe outside the room belong on that line. Just don't believe anyone should be bashing another line in general. Someone that has a specific complaint about their own personal experience on any line is free to voice that. But just generalized bashing is not only in poor taste, it is usually wrong.

Dan

[pms4104]

This garment is called a bathrobe ... not a jacket, blouse, shirt, dress, or any other specific item of apparel. So, I personally cannot imagine my wearing it outside my cabin, except perhaps on my own verandah.

Yes, we've seen bathrobes in the Lido at breakfast and lunch but, thankfully, never in the main dining room in the evening or any other time!

[thomasale]

Good golly I missed all this stuff...I would not wear a robe that was worn by someone else...I don't shop at Goodwill either...but as for me I really don't spend alot of time worrying about where someone else is going and why they might be dressed a certain way.

I also don't think that its a class flag so, wear them wherever you want...what the hey, The Dude wore his everywhere whilst drinking White Russians! And they just don't get any cooler than The Dude!

[pms4104]

Good golly I missed all this stuff...I would not wear a robe that was worn by someone else...I don't shop at Goodwill either...but as for me I really don't spend alot of time worrying about where someone else is going and why they might be dressed a certain way.

I also don't think that its a class flag so, wear them wherever you want...what the hey, The Dude wore his everywhere whilst drinking White Russians! And they just don't get any cooler than The Dude!
The robes are laundered day of disembark/embark ... not much different than using the towels provided in the cabins, also routinely laundered.

I'm not up on pop culture ... who the Dude?

[AlohaPride]

On any cruise I've been on, there always seems to be a set of people that I consider "boorish" in their dress or behavior. Wearing a bathrobe outside of the cabin, for any reason other than a dire emergency, is boorish in my mind. I don't accept the excuses offered about going to the spa any more than I accept the excuse that someone needed their morning caffeine fix and showed up in the Lido. The pragmatics are, if I pass someone with their robe on, I have no idea where they are headed or why getting dressed in an appropriate manner is so much of an effort as to warrant the need to avoid common dress courtesy. And, frankly, I don't care, I make a mental note, move on and avoid any future engagement with the person.

When I was in Graduate school I read a book called The Four Agreements. One of the agreements is to not make assumptions.

Why does it matter to YOU where a person is going? If you are going to make the assumption that the person is Boorish, then why don't you assume in the positive that MAYBE the person is on their way to the Spa. Or, even better, assume that the person's luggage was lost on their way to the ship and they have nothing else to wear except a robe while their clothing is being laundered - AND - that they are on their way to the ship's gift shop to spend big bucks buying an outfit with HAL plastered all over it.

I've met so many amazing people during the trips I've taken. I would hate to think I might have missed out on meeting some of them because I chose to avoid any future engagement with the person simply because of the way they are dressed.

I think a lot of this argument stems from cultural practices. I come from a very Asian influenced beach culture. Robes aren't just for the home. We use them to go to the beach, pool, hot tubs, etc. They are just as much a cover up as anything else. So it would never occur to me to not wear the robe to the pool on a ship. As a person from North Carolina, it would probably NEVER occur to you to take your shoes off ANY time you enter a home (yours or someone else's) but if you did that here you would be thought of as rude and "boorish."

[cf_chuck]

When I was in Graduate school I read a book called The Four Agreements. One of the agreements is to not make assumptions.

I read that book also. The context was in an interpersonal relationship, as I understood it. I don't know anyone who goes without making assumptions in order to live and survive in society. T o do so would requireperfect knowledge and foresight. While I've encountered some individuals that present the appearance of perfect knowledge and foresight, they are easily debunked. Yes, I make assumptions, the question is whether they have value to me. As far as I'm concerned, they do.

Why does it matter to YOU where a person is going? If you are going to make the assumption that the person is Boorish, then why don't you assume in the positive that MAYBE the person is on their way to the Spa. Or, even better, assume that the person's luggage was lost on their way to the ship and they have nothing else to wear except a robe while their clothing is being laundered - AND - that they are on their way to the ship's gift shop to spend big bucks buying an outfit with HAL plastered all over it.

Well, I doubt that someone walking through the Lido at 7, or pushing an elevator button that goes somewhere else than the shops floor is going to match the criteria you have suggested. As I stated, I don't think the Spa is an excuse for adopting minimal dress standards conforming to what the rest of the cruisers are doing. I am an early riser, spending many hours on the back ship decks, enjoying the sunrise and my morning coffee. I have rarely encountered any like minded people show up in anything but responsible dress. The incidences of the bathrobe bunnies is rare and stick out like a sore thumb.

I've met so many amazing people during the trips I've taken. I would hate to think I might have missed out on meeting some of them because I chose to avoid any future engagement with the person simply because of the way they are dressed.

I don't have this fear because I also have met some amazing people that chose to conform to the popular practice. I don't feel the need to second guess this choice simply because I might miss something. Any choice I make includes the possibility that I might miss something.

I think a lot of this argument stems from cultural practices. I come from a very Asian influenced beach culture. Robes aren't just for the home. We use them to go to the beach, pool, hot tubs, etc. They are just as much a cover up as anything else. So it would never occur to me to not wear the robe to the pool on a ship. As a person from North Carolina, it would probably NEVER occur to you to take your shoes off ANY time you enter a home (yours or someone else's) but if you did that here you would be thought of as rude and "boorish."

Well, talk about assumptions. I do understand the variance between different cultural practices, occasionally making a faux pas, but being able to acknowledge the local practices, make apologies and work to overcome the mistake. I have been to Asia, I do understand the practices there, and, oh, BTW, adopt the shoe ritual for myself at home (cuts down cleaning problems). But here we are talking about a cruise, the combination of a hundreds of pax and crew in creating a shared cultural, temporal experience which is unique and different than any experience any of us has the opportunity to create in our own culture or domicile. I happen to place a great value on that co-creation and out of that sense of value, I find it to be little effort to dress in a manner which is courteous, respectful and supportive of the significant majority of my fellow passengers. To the extent that my fellow passengers reciprocate in kind, I am grateful as we're working together to create a meaningful experience. To the extent that they openly choose not to participate, I find them boorish, emphasizing the individual whims over the collective experience.

[dr1ce]

Loved the bathrobes on HAL! I bought one for $49.95 (I think) and I'm pretty sure it was the same price, monogrammed or not. I love the deep pockets and short(er) sleeves. I looked for a photo, but I guess I didn't take one!

Here's what the fruit card looks like:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cshym74/2331721333/in/set-72157604126865830/

Awesome! :D This is what we chose:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cshym74/2332588248/in/set-72157604126865830/
I loved having the fruit to grab whenever...snuck it on-land most days too! :rolleyes:

[AlohaPride]

I read that book also. The context was in an interpersonal relationship, as I understood it. I don't know anyone who goes without making assumptions in order to live and survive in society. T o do so would requireperfect knowledge and foresight. While I've encountered some individuals that present the appearance of perfect knowledge and foresight, they are easily debunked. Yes, I make assumptions, the question is whether they have value to me. As far as I'm concerned, they do.

The book is about Toltec wisdom and a simple Code of Conduct. Not about interpersonal relationship. But I guess you understood it differently. All I was saying with these examples is that MAYBE try to give the person the benefit of the doubt and assume in a more positive way. You don't chose to do so. That's your perogative.

To make no assumptions doesn't require you to do anything except ask when in doubt. It doesn't require perfect knowledge and foresight. In fact, quite the oposite. It requires that you admit you don't know everything and ask when in doubt. The stories we make up in our day to day lives based on assumptions can cause a lot of trouble.

I, personally, find it sad that if we were to ever be on the same cruise, and you saw me on my way to or from the spa or pool you would immediately judge me as "boorish." (Of course, assuming that you would do to me what you stated you do to EVERYONE who wears a robe outside of their cabin) :cool:

[cf_chuck]

The book is about Toltec wisdom and a simple Code of Conduct. Not about interpersonal relationship. But I guess you understood it differently. All I was saying with these examples is that MAYBE try to give the person the benefit of the doubt and assume in a more positive way. You don't chose to do so. That's your perogative.

Yes, I do understand that there is a choice to give someone the benefit of the doubt. There are times that exercising this choice is important to me. There are other times where I see no value in it.

To make no assumptions doesn't require you to do anything except ask when in doubt. It doesn't require perfect knowledge and foresight. In fact, quite the oposite. It requires that you admit you don't know everything and ask when in doubt. The stories we make up in our day to day lives based on assumptions can cause a lot of trouble.

Well, certainly our day to day lives can be royally screwed up by making too many wrong assumptions. But, the approach of asking questions has it's bounds which are individually based in the comfort level of the questioner. For every question, there are at least two more beneath it. This is known as infinite regression. At some point, the questioner bumps into their system of beliefs and values.

Without having a firm basis for making assumptions, the questioner can become paralyzed into inactivity. Not a life choice I would make for myself or one that I would recommend to anyone.

I have expressed the system of beliefs and values that I consider important when on a cruise as it relates to the question of bathrobes out of the cabin. We're thrown together to create a shared cruise experience for the benefit of each other and ourselves. I don't think individual public choices which go against the commonly exercized standards of the general populace serve to benefit the shared experience. There are multiple opportunities for any individual to opt out of the shared experience without engaging in a public display of that choice. Wearing a bathrobe out of the cabin is definitely a choice of a small minority of people. If and when it becomes a prevalent behavior, I will reconsider.

I, personally, find it sad that if we were to ever be on the same cruise, and you saw me on my way to or from the spa or pool you would immediately judge me as "boorish." (Of course, assuming that you would do to me what you stated you do to EVERYONE who wears a robe outside of their cabin) :cool:

First, I intended to label the behavior boorish, not the individual. Based on the individual's public behavior, I would likely opt out of any attempt to create a cruise relationship with that individual, simply because time is short and many other opportunities exist for creating cruise relationships with others who are publicly like minded. I've yet to cruise when this hasn't happened to a satisfying degree, and it served to enhance the overall cruise experience for me, and hopefully for them. Given this, I find little motivation to change the approach.

[pipedreams62]

about robes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aTzLF76s8c

[cf_chuck]

about robes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aTzLF76s8c

LOL, thanks. After hearing that, I can say I'm glad that I meet room service breakfast delivery fully clothed in the "uniform" of the day. But then, I've already been lounging around watching the sunrise, so there's no extra effort entailed.

[medfordgirl]

about robes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aTzLF76s8c



enjoyed that!

on another note. Do they provide slippers in all the cabins too? I still have mine from my cruise 3 yrs ago. Haven't used them yet because I am still using my RCCL ones. My family won't be in the suites and I was wondering if they would get the slippers?
Do they supply slippers for everyone in the suite? Will my kids get slippers? If I requested more would I have to pay for them?

[AlohaPride]

about robes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aTzLF76s8c

We went to his show here in Honolulu for my husband's birthday last year. He's hilarious!