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letsgonow
August 10th, 2008, 08:40 PM
Following are some thoughts and opinions of my recent Prinsendam cruise - July 17 through August 7. The ship sailed from Dover, and called on four ports in Norway, three in Iceland, two in Greenland, as well as two in Scotland, before arriving in Amsterdam. This was our second voyage on the Prinsendam, the first being a 34 night Transatlantic in 2006. We have 130+ days on HAL, elite status on Celebrity, platinum on Princess, diamond on RCI, and also cruise on Carnival and NCL.

Cruise Critic roll call:

We had a wonderful roll call, with close to 50 people. Lots of information was shared, and two independent tours were arranged for those interested.

Embarkation:

We arrived at the pier in Dover at 11:30, and there wasn't a single person in line for check-in. We soon found out that the computers had crashed, and we received a numbered card for a delayed check-in. There was a very nice lounge area, and we met up with several Cruise Critic posters. The time went fast, and we were onboard within 45 minutes. Our staterooms were not ready until 1:30, so we had a nice lunch at the lido buffet.

Meet & greet:

There was an informal meeting of Cruise Critic members after muster drill. Many showed up, and it was nice to meet so many people.

AYWD:

We were very happy when we discovered that two of our tablemates from our 2006 Prinsendam cruise were also on this voyage. Both of us had requested late, traditional, dining, and were given anytime dining. We decided, in advance, to give it a try (and be positive). When we arrived at the dining room at 7:00 on the first evening, we were told that there weren't any tables available. Then we were told that there "might" be a table ready at 8:00. Discouraged, I asked "will we have an 8pm reservation?" The response was a definite NO! Then I asked who exactly liked the anytime dining? At that point, we were offered a pager, and told that the wait would most likely be less than half an hour. In my opinion, they were hoping we would go to the lido for dinner. The pager lit up at 7:20, and we had a very nice dinner at a table for six.

The next morning I set the alarm so I could telephone, at 7:00 in the morning, for a reservation. It was no problem to reserve a table at 7:15 for the next two evenings. All was well until the third morning, as our preferred time was already taken by those making reservations the morning before. Therefore, a reservation must be made each day, for the next day. At this point we had a table that we really liked, as well as a fabulous waiter (Rinto). So, we asked if we could have a standing reservation - waking at 7:00 every morning was getting old, fast!! The gentleman at the door told us NO, as that would be the same as fixed seating. I said, very nicely, that we had all requested traditional seating. He took our information and told us he would look into the matter, and also told us that those above him would not be happy. From then on we had a standing reservation at the same table.

I did hear from several others onboard that they had absolutely no trouble walking up, at anytime, and being seated.

The outer, window, tables on the Prinsendam are set aside for anytime dining. When we were finished with our dinner, we would have to walk through all the waiter stations. It was disruptive for the staff, but that is the only way to exit the room, other than parading through the fixed seating section. We had a very nice assitant waiter, but rarely saw him before he served our coffee during desert - he was too busy with other tables.

Food:

Our dinners ranged from very good to excellent. The four of us ordered different entrees each evening, and everyone was almost always happy. For breakfast and lunch, we enjoyed both the dining room and the lido. On most days there were usually lines at the lido, as everything is made to order. Yes, you have to wait longer, but it is hot and cooked as you wish.

Meet & greet:

We had an organized, ship sponsored, meeting at 11:30 on the first sea day. Coffee, juices, and cookies were served, and the Hotel Manager, Beverage Manager, Guest Relations Manager, as well as Captain Gundersen all made an appearance. The captain is very entertaining, and had all our attention when he was speaking. There was a mention of visiting his stateroom during the voyage, and he said he would get back to us. Later in the cruise, we all received a written invitation to meet in the crows nest and then tour his quarters. It was fun to see his stateroom, but I am a little surprised that we weren't offered a glass of sparkling wine/mimosa/etc. Believe me, he had a welll stocked bar in the living area!

Ports:

The sea days on our voyage were foggy and rainy, but the sun always made an appearance for the scenic cruising and port stops. We could not have been luckier!

Drydock:

The bathrooms were redone during the dry dock, and they are beautiful. Marble and granite, in shades of taupe and black, have replaced the salmon colored tiles. A nice improvement! We had a midship cabin on the dolphin deck, and I hope the small sofa is scheduled to be recovered in the future (heavily soiled would be an understatement). The walk in closet had additional shelves added.

Final thoughts:

The Prinsendam remains one of our favorite ships - the perfect size, combined with great service, makes for a wonderful holiday. If we are lucky enough to sail on her in the future, I would prefer traditional seating.

photomikey
August 10th, 2008, 10:11 PM
Thank you for a detailed trip report!

When we arrived at the dining room at 7:00 on the first evening, we were told that there weren't any tables available. Then we were told that there "might" be a table ready at 8:00. Discouraged, I asked "will we have an 8pm reservation?" The response was a definite NO!

I did hear from several others onboard that they had absolutely no trouble walking up, at anytime, and being seated.

May I ask what you attribute this dichotomy to?

Also, you noted that you awoke every morning (and later, the morning before) to make your reservations at 7am. Did you get the feeling (or have you any evidence) to say that you couldn't have slept in a bit later (9-10am)? Did you get the impression that the majority were making reservations first thing in the morning, or most people were wandering up when they got hungry?

Thank you again for an insightful review.

Aussie Gal
August 11th, 2008, 02:07 AM
letsgonow,

Loved reading your report. We are returning to the lovely Prinsendam in November, 2009 and are looking forward to being on her once more.

I hope by then, they will have sorted out Anytime Dining as Traditional is not being offered on our cruise so I am presuming that HAL is going to switch completely to Anytime on the Prinsendam. We experienced this for the first time on Oceania's Nautica in April/May and loved it.

Jennie

letsgonow
August 11th, 2008, 05:34 AM
Thank you for a detailed trip report!





May I ask what you attribute this dichotomy to?

Also, you noted that you awoke every morning (and later, the morning before) to make your reservations at 7am. Did you get the feeling (or have you any evidence) to say that you couldn't have slept in a bit later (9-10am)? Did you get the impression that the majority were making reservations first thing in the morning, or most people were wandering up when they got hungry?

Thank you again for an insightful review.

On embarkation day, there was a dining room steward positioned on the lido deck, near the rear elevators. It was possible to make dinner reservations for 5:15, 5:45, 7:15, or 7:45. When I stopped to speak with him, all four times were available. After checking with our friends, I returned ten minutes later and only the two earlier times were available. On day four when I called for a 7:15 reservation, none were available. We were given 7:45 at the same table. At this point, it was obvious that there were limited numbers of available reservations. I have no idea how many are given out for each night, or if they are still available later in the morning.

Quite a few people ate the majority of their dinners in the lido, which eases the crowding in the dining room.

We live in an area where there are seasonal visitors and winter residents, which makes for long lines at restaurants. It didn't matter whether we ate at 7 or 8, we were just hoping to avoid even a 10 minute wait. After several dinners at table 139, in the rear of the dining room, we really liked the location. There is far less traffic and noise, which is very evident on the port and starboard side tables.

When I spoke with several Cruise Critic members, they said they never had to wait for an anytime dining table. I am not sure what time they arrived or if they asked for a specific table size.

Krazy Kruizers
August 11th, 2008, 06:35 AM
Thank you for your report.

mchell810
August 11th, 2008, 08:48 AM
Thanks for the detailed report on AYWD.

trustee55
August 11th, 2008, 10:36 AM
Hi!

My husband, Richard and I, renewed our vows in Capt. Gunderson's quarters when we sailed on the Prinsendam a few years ago.
it was a wonderful experience and there was wine and champagne flowing at that time, as well as hors d'oeurves.
We loved the ship.....and the cruise....it was a transatlantic... and would sail on her again in a heartbeat.

Happy sailing,

Carol Ann

Florida Lady
August 11th, 2008, 11:40 AM
You mentioned in your posting that:
"The outer, window, tables on the Prinsendam are set aside for anytime dining"

Can you elaborate? Both sections of the Dining room? All outer window tables?
Thank you

MightyQuinn
August 11th, 2008, 02:37 PM
You mentioned in your posting that:
"The outer, window, tables on the Prinsendam are set aside for anytime dining" Can you elaborate? Both sections of the Dining room? All outer window tables? Thank you
Maybe I can help. We were aboard the Prinsendam on a b2b when she transitioned to AYWD on May 23. Unlike other ships, the DR of the Prinsendam is not on 2 levels but it has separate Forward & Aft rooms. Initially, the Forward DR and the raised platform section of the Aft DR were designated as Open Seating, while the perimeter section of the Aft DR was configured for Fixed Seating. We requested Main Fixed & were assigned our requested 2-top at a window table along the perimeter of the Aft DR. Our only complaint was that the tables were VERY close together.

At the beginning of the second segment on June 3, all the AYWD arrangements were reversed. The Forward DR was changed to Fixed Seating and the Aft DR was designated Open Seating. We were reassigned a window 2-top in the Forward DR. Big improvement as the tables here had some breathing room between them! In conversation with the HM, we learned that the transition to AYWD was working better but they’re still looking to improve. He also indicated that the Prinsendam would always have Fixed Dining options on its Grand Voyages.

tjcox9
August 11th, 2008, 04:52 PM
We also, just returned from the Norway, Iceland, Greenland, Scotland adventure on the Prinsendam. It was my fourth time and DH's third time. We continue to enjoy the size and personal feel of the ship and have 38 days booked for next year.

I'll ditto letsgonow's comments on the trip. We did have late traditional dining as we requested, but did visit with some folks who had AYW and they were generally not pleased with it. But, then, I'm sure it worked fine for some others.

Captain Gunderson was wonderful. At 1:00 PM every day since I've been home, I've been waiting for the announcement saying "It's me again from the bridge." What a personable fellow, he is.

We were pleased to discover that although we were told on the transatlantic last fall, just before drydock, that the Java cafe would charge for coffee after that as they were installing new equipment. Well, it appears that the equipment did not get installed, as the equipment remains the same and there is still no charge for espresso, capuccino, etc.

It was funny to hear people ask about it. Every day it was a new story why it remains no charge..........I heard "It's my birthday, so I'm buying all the coffee today" "We're going to start charging after this cruise", etc. The staff does get overwhelmed sometimes, but remains calm and the usual HAL pleasant smiling staff.

Thanks for the roll call on CC when someone noticed that the Edinburgh Military Tattoo becamse available as a shore excursion. Many of us jumped at the opportunity to attend as we were docked in Rosyth, some distance from Edinburgh. There were so many people disappointed once they boarded and found it sold out. There were 98 spaces available, it seems.

Great trip over all. It was a very diverse group of passengers which made it all the more interesting. I always think I've traveled quite a lot until I'm on the Prinsendam and start talking with others about their travels. I soon come to realize that I'm only just beginning! ;)

chrismch
August 11th, 2008, 10:53 PM
We've booked the AYWD for our Prinsendam cruise next yr. We've done it on Princess and really like it. Sometimes we've asked for a table for 2 and other times have agreed to share a table and have met some wonderful people. Do you have the option of sharing a table on HAL? Also if we are tired from a day of touring can we order from the main dining room for room service?

for trustee55...We will be celebrating our 20th anniv during the cruise which is a sea day. How did you make the arrangements for the renewal of vows? Is there a charge for this & if so how much?

trustee55
August 12th, 2008, 01:11 AM
Hi!

The renewing of vows was arranged through ship services.
I believe at that time it was about $100.
It included the ceremony, pictures, flowers, champagne, hors d'eurves and a photgraph album.
We thought it was well worth it.

Happy Sailing,

Carol Ann

ROBO
August 12th, 2008, 01:31 AM
Dear Mighty Quinn

Will board the PRINSENDAM in Dec confirmed for second sitting. Requested a table for 2 and would real appreciate if you can remember the table number
-second leg/not to close-, Thanks so much for your help.

ROBO

MightyQuinn
August 12th, 2008, 11:39 AM
Dear Mighty Quinn
Will board the PRINSENDAM in Dec confirmed for second sitting. Requested a table for 2 and would real appreciate if you can remember the table number
-second leg/not to close- Thanks so much for your help.
ROBO - in the Forward DR, odd-numbered tables 1 thru 17 (no 13) are deuces beside the window. Those at either end are a bit closer to neighbor tables than those in the middle. We had table 9 and thought it was ideal.

And to chrismch - yes you can order room service from the DR menu as long as you place the order while the DR is still open.

jhannah
August 12th, 2008, 11:49 AM
What a mess HAL has made with this "AYWD."

ROBO
August 12th, 2008, 11:53 AM
Dear Mighty Quinn

Thanks so much. Any idea whom will be the Maitre D in dec. 08 ?

Tks,

ROBO

MightyQuinn
August 12th, 2008, 12:13 PM
Dear Mighty Quinn
Thanks so much. Any idea whom will be the Maitre D in dec. 08 ?
Tks,ROBO
I don't have the schedule (maybe Copper John does;)) but when we left the ship in mid-June '08, the COM was Tolga Gursen & the DRM was Wawan Kartawan. I don't believe HAL uses the title Maitre D' anymore.