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Boytjie
December 4th, 2008, 12:04 PM
Just saw this on the HAL website (http://www.worldsleadingcruiselines.com/AboutUs/FuelSupplementUpdate.aspx):
MIAMI (December 4, 2008) - As fuel prices continue to decline, Carnival Corporation & plc (NYSE/LSE: CCL; NYSE: CUK) has announced that it will suspend fuel supplements for its six North American brands effective for all voyages departing on or after December 17, 2008.
The fuel supplement suspension applies to the following brands: Carnival Cruise Lines, Costa Cruises, Cunard Line, Holland America Line, Princess Cruises and The Yachts of Seabourn.
A refund of the fuel supplement will be made in the form of a shipboard credit for all bookings within the final payment period for departures on or after December 17, 2008. All bookings outside of the final payment period for departures on or after December 17, 2008 will be adjusted to remove the fuel supplement and guests will be provided with a revised final payment amount.
Boytjie
December 4th, 2008, 12:05 PM
Argh, the dreaded Thread Title Typo Error! :mad:
ViolaSwamp
December 4th, 2008, 12:23 PM
Wooooooooooo hoo!!!!!!!!
Great news, $126 of OBC! :cool::D:)
norcal2
December 4th, 2008, 12:24 PM
Just saw this on the HAL website (http://www.worldsleadingcruiselines.com/AboutUs/FuelSupplementUpdate.aspx):
MIAMI (December 4, 2008) - As fuel prices continue to decline, Carnival Corporation & plc (NYSE/LSE: CCL; NYSE: CUK) has announced that it will suspend fuel supplements for its six North American brands effective for all voyages departing on or after December 17, 2008.
The fuel supplement suspension applies to the following brands: Carnival Cruise Lines, Costa Cruises, Cunard Line, Holland America Line, Princess Cruises and The Yachts of Seabourn.
A refund of the fuel supplement will be made in the form of a shipboard credit for all bookings within the final payment period for departures on or after December 17, 2008. All bookings outside of the final payment period for departures on or after December 17, 2008 will be adjusted to remove the fuel supplement and guests will be provided with a revised final payment amount.
WONDERFUL! Good news and a nice Christmas present surprise. Thank you for this information. We are sailing in February so hopefully it holds!
hylasgirl
December 4th, 2008, 12:28 PM
Wonderful news! Bummer we sail on the 14th of December:( Good news for others though! Yay!!!
InTheWASide
December 4th, 2008, 12:39 PM
Between the 3 cruises in my signature, we're talking about nearly $500...
Money that will no doubt end up paying for random onboard purchases :)
Thanks Carnival Corp. What a great present!!
Boytjie
December 4th, 2008, 12:51 PM
Between the 3 cruises in my signature, we're talking about nearly $500...
Money that will no doubt end up paying for random onboard purchases :)
Thanks Carnival Corp. What a great present!!
By celebrating the suspension of the fuel charges! How many bottles of bubbly would that buy? :)
:D
richnorto
December 4th, 2008, 12:58 PM
Yipee!!! That's $560 to help cover expenses on our Christmas cruise!!:D:D:D I was hoping to get the OBC, but now I won't have to keep watching and wondering!:)
SeaMatesNYC
December 4th, 2008, 01:07 PM
Suggest we each place some more in the "red bucket" on the street (or collection plate, or food bank, etc.) since this is "found" money, IMHO.
usha
December 4th, 2008, 01:09 PM
That IS good news!:)
casavaha
December 4th, 2008, 01:11 PM
For those of us sailing on the 17 of Dec., I think we should thank HAL. They did not
have to do it for us. They got alot of flack before so a thank you is in order.
Greg
norcal2
December 4th, 2008, 01:18 PM
One question:
If the final bill said "Fuel Supplement $100.00" is that the amount we are talking about?
I didn't know if it was listed under another title or if it applied to both of us so I am a little confused as to the amount. I originally thought it was $9 dollars a day for each of us.
Comptech
December 4th, 2008, 01:21 PM
Yipppie.... $140.00 bucks for us on our December 21st Christmas - New Years cruise. I guess I can now afford to buy that special bottle of Tequilla... :)
NetwrkEng
December 4th, 2008, 01:22 PM
Good news for others but I feel like Maxwell Smart....missed it by THAT much. :rolleyes:
NevadaHiRoller
December 4th, 2008, 01:30 PM
But why are they still assessing them on new bookings?
pinksand
December 4th, 2008, 01:32 PM
Well I'm not happy. We sail on 12/13. Its wrong and they should just drop it now. :mad:
localady
December 4th, 2008, 01:32 PM
More margaritas on the Yummers cruise!! :D :D
Ole!! ;) :D
InTheWASide
December 4th, 2008, 01:39 PM
By celebrating the suspension of the fuel charges! How many bottles of bubbly would that buy? :)
:D
Well, without factoring the 15% it would be 16.6 bottles if you figure 30 each...
Or...
At least 2-3 of the good stuff :)
cruizn2escape
December 4th, 2008, 01:42 PM
On HAL's site, they do state they will reinstate it if the cost of fuel goes over $70 a barrel. So here's hoping it stays below that amount for all cruisers.
InTheWASide
December 4th, 2008, 01:45 PM
On HAL's site, they do state they will reinstate it if the cost of fuel goes over $70 a barrel. So here's hoping it stays below that amount for all cruisers.
This is actually on the World's Leading Cruise Lines site... (Carnival Corp) so it's not an independent or line by line thing... If it goes over 70, Carnival Corp reserves this right...
Boytjie
December 4th, 2008, 01:45 PM
Well I'm not happy. We sail on 12/13. Its wrong and they should just drop it now. :mad:
They have to draw a line somehwre, I guess and figure out when it can be implemented on their systems and get the word out to TAs etc. If they dropped it now then those currently ona cruise would be unhappy. :)
Twickenham
December 4th, 2008, 02:25 PM
But why are they still assessing them on new bookings?
They're not...
http://www.worldsleadingcruiselines.com/AboutUs/FuelSupplementUpdate.aspx
A refund of the fuel supplement will be made in the form of a shipboard credit for all bookings within the final payment period for departures on or after December 17, 2008. All bookings outside of the final payment period for departures on or after December 17, 2008 will be adjusted to remove the fuel supplement and guests will be provided with a revised final payment amount.
Ted&Molly
December 4th, 2008, 03:29 PM
Can this OBC be applied to the daily tip charge?
Mary Ellen
December 4th, 2008, 03:37 PM
This is actually on the World's Leading Cruise Lines site... (Carnival Corp) so it's not an independent or line by line thing... If it goes over 70, Carnival Corp reserves this right...It IS on the HAL site (http://www.hollandamerica.com/news/Main.action?tabName=Advisories). It is probably on all of the sites of the affected cruise lines. But, as the other poster stated, it IS on the HAL site.
Comptech
December 4th, 2008, 03:42 PM
It will be in the form of OBC so you can do with it what you will.
Can this OBC be applied to the daily tip charge?
MadManOfBethesda
December 4th, 2008, 03:51 PM
I think that it is quite humorous that everyone is so ecstatic about this announcement and was so negative about the previous policy, when nothing much has really changed. The fuel supplement was going to go away as of December 17th anyway since oil has been below $70 since November 4th. No one sailing from that date on was going to have to pay the fuel supplement unless oil spiked above $70. Well guess what, people? CCL STILL reserves the right to charge a $9/day fuel surcharge if and when oil goes back above $70.
The only difference is that if you haven't made final payment it is being taken off now and will be added back later if oil goes up. Under the old policy, you paid the surcharge upfront and then got it refunded to you as an obc at sailing.
Admittedly, this is a more consumer-friendly way of presenting the issue. But monetarily, nothing has really changed. If you were going to pay it under the old policy, you're going to pay it under this new policy. If you weren't going to have to pay for it under the old policy, then you won't have to pay it under the new policy.
The key is still $70. Nothing has really changed that.
ViolaSwamp
December 4th, 2008, 03:56 PM
I think that it is quite humorous that everyone is so ecstatic about this announcement and was so negative about the previous policy, when nothing much has really changed. The fuel supplement was going to go away as of December 17th anyway since oil has been below $70 since November 4th. No one sailing from that date on was going to have to pay the fuel supplement unless oil spiked above $70. Well guess what, people? CCL STILL reserves the right to charge a $9/day fuel surcharge if and when oil goes back above $70.
The only difference is that if you haven't made final payment it is being taken off now and will be added back later if oil goes up. Under the old policy, you paid the surcharge upfront and then got it refunded to you as an obc at sailing.
Admittedly, this is a more consumer-friendly way of presenting the issue. But monetarily, nothing has really changed. If you were going to pay it under the old policy, you're going to pay it under this new policy. If you weren't going to have to pay for it under the old policy, then you won't have to pay it under the new policy.
The key is still $70. Nothing has really changed that.
Consumer friendly, yes. That's the key. A more sensible business approach? Absolutely. Way to go, HAL...!
Paulchili
December 4th, 2008, 04:01 PM
Well I'm not happy. We sail on 12/13. Its wrong and they should just drop it now. :mad:
I agree - we sail on the 11th. Too bad!
InTheWASide
December 4th, 2008, 04:39 PM
It IS on the HAL site (http://www.hollandamerica.com/news/Main.action?tabName=Advisories). It is probably on all of the sites of the affected cruise lines. But, as the other poster stated, it IS on the HAL site.
I understand that, however, Carnival Corp is what makes this call. It won't be HAL's decision if it's reinstated, it will be HAL doing what Carnival Corp has told it to do.
That was my point. Sorry if I didn't make it clearly :o
CaliforniaAC
December 4th, 2008, 06:08 PM
I agree - we sail on the 11th. Too bad!
My son and his wife sail on their honeymoon (and first cruise) on Saturday, 12/6.
I called HAL- tried to sweet talk them, even got one higher on their food chain.
They wouldn't budge.
It would have been nice if they had made just a teensy exception.
swimsimcoe
December 4th, 2008, 06:21 PM
Carnival Corp. has just announced that "A refund of the fuel supplement will be made in the form of a shipboard credit for all bookings within the final payment period for departures on or after December 17, 2008."
http://www.worldsleadingcruiselines....entUpdate.aspx (http://www.worldsleadingcruiselines....entUpdate.aspx)
Hey guys,disappointed with you.Was on the Princess boards first.
hammybee
December 4th, 2008, 06:24 PM
Here's the active thread that was started this morning:
http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=884336
cherrypop
December 4th, 2008, 06:37 PM
Great news check it out just in case anyone missed it in the "Sticky" posts
http://www.worldsleadingcruiselines.com/AboutUs/FuelSupplementUpdate.aspx
Ted&Molly
December 4th, 2008, 06:44 PM
It will be in the form of OBC so you can do with it what you will.
Some OBCs specifically exclude use for tips--they are for spending on board only. Some OBCs can be used for tips--some cannot. Depends on the terms. That is why I asked. Does anyone know for sure?
MightyQuinn
December 4th, 2008, 07:10 PM
Some OBCs specifically exclude use for tips--they are for spending on board only. Some OBCs can be used for tips--some cannot. Depends on the terms. That is why I asked. Does anyone know for sure?
On previous HAL sailings we've used OBC to cover various on-board spending, including the daily hotel service charge. I'd expect the OBC for fuel rebates could be used likewise. :):)
auntdana
December 4th, 2008, 08:01 PM
happy to hear and have some good news
every little bit helps :)
Tahoe Boater
December 5th, 2008, 12:44 AM
For some of us, Christmas is coming early this year.
It was great news not to have to watch the oil futures every day. I already have enough to be concerned about.
jschm27
December 5th, 2008, 01:49 AM
Hoo Rah! That's great news concerning the OBC. Sorry for all of you folks who just missed the 17th cut off.
John
simplelife
December 5th, 2008, 07:08 AM
But why are they still assessing them on new bookings?
It appears to me that they will adjust final payments for those that have already been assessed.
Boytjie
December 5th, 2008, 11:15 AM
Argh, the dreaded Thread Title Typo Error! :mad:
Thanks to Host Walt that typo was fixed! :)
ViolaSwamp
December 5th, 2008, 11:20 AM
Thanks to Host Walt that typo was fixed! :)
But I liked seeing "fule", it made me think of yule, as in yuletide greetings. :p
fireman845
December 5th, 2008, 11:21 AM
Do I have to tell my DW ???? :rolleyes:
Boytjie
December 5th, 2008, 11:58 AM
Do I have to tell my DW ???? :rolleyes:
Yes, unless you like sleeping on the balcony. :D
caltnl
December 5th, 2008, 01:24 PM
Wonderful surprise in my email this morning.
HAL sending an Important Notification showing that the fuel surcharge has been removed.
Hip Hip Hooray
Kolleen
December 5th, 2008, 03:40 PM
I'm happy.