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dakrewser
October 11th, 2004, 12:22 PM
Well, in a news magazine, at least. The current Forbes has an article "Shipshape Isn't What It Used to Be" in its Health department (http://www.forbes.com/lifestyle/health/feeds/hscout/2004/10/11/hscout521449.html)
all about food aboard the Z. For those who can't visit the web site, here it is:
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Shipshape Isn't What It Used to Be
By Amanda Gardner, HealthDay Reporter

MONDAY, Oct. 11 (HealthDayNews) -- The American battle with obesity is lost the minute you step on the gangplank.
That much was clear the day I boarded the cruise ship Ms. Zandaam in Vancouver recently, headed for a six-day cruise through Alaska's Inside Passage.

The weekly cruise, with about 1,400 passengers and 600 crew on board, plows through an average of 8,500 pounds of meat and meat products, 1,100 pounds of butter and margarine, and 200 gallons of ice cream, not to mention 18,000 eggs and 20,000 individual sugar packets, according to an official handout I received the first day.

The only question left in my mind was how many of those pounds would end up on my backside before I disembarked in a week's time.

Alaska is beautiful, but Zandaam's kitchen staff of 97 seemed determined to make the constantly replenished buffet tables at least as breathtaking.

Perhaps it wouldn't have been so bad if there hadn't been a resident control group on board. The largely Indonesian and Filipino crew were thin -- much thinner than the mostly American, British and Australian passengers who spent their days waddling through narrow corridors to get from one dining room to another. On our third night at sea, the emcee of an Indonesian crew show, a dining room steward, jokingly pointed out this size difference. The crew looked more like grains of rice, he said, maybe because that's what they ate (to the tune of 2,100 pounds of rice each week), while the audience members were more like baked potatoes.

And, in fact, the passengers did eat baked potatoes. They also ate chateau potatoes, fingerling potatoes, mashed potatoes, dauphinoise potatoes, french fries, potato pancakes, macaire potatoes, red potatoes, roasted garlic mashed potatoes, loaded double baked potato soup drizzled with bacon bits, chive mashed potatoes, potatoes with parsley, croquette potatoes, rissole potatoes, German potato salad, steak fries, french fries with parsley, garlic potatoes, and shoestring potatoes, among others.

Every day started out with breakfast either in the Rotterdam Dining Room or in the Lido Restaurant. I usually headed for the Lido, which presented an unholy buffet of cereals, muffins, smoked salmon, eggs, pancakes, sausages, custom-made omelets, and more. I also ate lunch there, another buffet extravaganza with salads (including macaroni, potato, and Waldorf), soups, full meals with meat and vegetables, stir fry, and assorted cheeses.

And, of course, there was bread.

Each day, the ship's baker and his staff prepared more than 20 different kinds of bread, including 120 regular loaves, 100 loaves of French bread, 4,000 dinner rolls, 800 croissants, and 800 Danish and sweet rolls.

Dinner was a sit-down affair featuring appetizers (fried hazelnut crusted Brie, portabella and ricotta crostini with smoked chicken breast), soups (lobster bisque, French onion), salads (Caesar, Greek), entrees (Alaskan amber lingcod fish and chips, honey-glazed pit ham), entrees from the grill (filet mignon a la Oscar, jumbo shrimp, and scallop sate) and dessert (praline mousse cake with caramel sauce, chocolate pot au creme with whipped cream, Yukon sourdough bread pudding, chocolate harmony with brandy sauce).

In between meals, it was possible (more possible at the beginning of the journey than at the end) to walk around the ship's deck (3.5 times around was one mile) or to just shuttle up and down between the different bars and coffee bars (stairs optional, as there were elevators) and the Terrace Grill, which served taco fixings and pizza a poolside. The cruise stopped at ports three times, but I noticed that most people managed to get back to the ship in time for dinner or lunch. For those who missed the dinner call, there was always room service. If that was not enough, a chocolate was placed on your pillow each and every night.

Now I'm back on shore, my clothes only a little tighter than before the cruise. I think it's because the ever eager-to-please chefs were happy to steam my lingcod and because I chose the sugar-free dessert options every night (Jell-O, butterscotch pudding, vanilla ice cream) and the diabetic muffins at breakfast.

Or maybe it's because you can only do so much damage in a week.

The Zandaam, part of the Holland-America cruise line, is now on a three-week cruise through the Panama Canal to the Caribbean. I'm glad I'm not on it. I'm not sure how long I could have chosen Jell-O over chocolate cake with orange Grand Marnier sauce.
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Krazy Kruizers
October 11th, 2004, 12:26 PM
Thanks for posting the article.

Sounds like that writer had a marvelous food time on the Zaandam.

Speaks well for the chefs.

doone
October 11th, 2004, 12:30 PM
That article is great. I enjoyed reading it and now I am hungry!!!!!!!!!!!!

ekerr19
October 11th, 2004, 12:34 PM
Thanks for posting Dave.

I'm curious though, does everyone eat like this everyday? It's hard to imagine. We have to eat cereal and 1% milk for breakfast, splurging on a full breakfast usually once or twice on a 10-day cruise (DH will eat more than I, but he has a fantastic metabolism).

Rarely eat more than salad for lunch, except if they have a pizza or wok dish I like.

Dinner I usually eat what I want, forgoing dessert unless we split something that I really like. If I ate dessert every night, not only would I be stuffed (and since we have late seating - it's too much food that late in the evening) but I can see the pounds packing on.

I honestly think most people are inclined to watch what they eat, especially on longer cruises.

Can you imagine eating like this for 21 days in a row???

LAFFNVEGAS
October 11th, 2004, 12:47 PM
Reading the article gives me the main reason I have been dieting all year:D It does really sound like the writer did enjoy all the wonderful food. I think it is only fair that since I spend 6 days a week consuming less than 1000 calories and work out 7 days a week burning even more calories that I can totally enjoy my self for 7 days:cool: I have learned not to make a total pig of myself like I did on the Zuirderdam in April 2003 where I gained 12 pounds but to keep it at about a 5 pound gain or less is not bad and it does come right off if you go right back to pre cruise food and exercise program.

I honestly don't think there is anything wrong with undulging oneself for 7 days as long as you get plenty of exercise in that 7 days. I think it is all part of the pampering process and enjoying different foods:cool: Now to be revneal for 21 days I am not sure how he is doing it, other than pacing yourself knowing you have a full 21 days to enjoy all the food.

ekerr19
October 11th, 2004, 01:10 PM
Lisa-

Did you find (after dieting so long) some of that rich food makes you feel kind of sick?

I am not judging anyone - I hope my post is not perceived that way - I diet most of the time too, so I can relate.

I have recently found that I can't eat all the cruise ship food offerings as easily as I used to. Some things made my stomach upset and gave me heartburn, so when I think of eating cruise ship food for 21 days, yikes!

We have also contemplated trying first seating so we are not so full late in the evenings.

LAFFNVEGAS
October 11th, 2004, 01:42 PM
Lisa-

Did you find (after dieting so long) some of that rich food makes you feel kind of sick?

I am not judging anyone - I hope my post is not perceived that way - I diet most of the time too, so I can relate.

I have recently found that I can't eat all the cruise ship food offerings as easily as I used to. Some things made my stomach upset and gave me heartburn, so when I think of eating cruise ship food for 21 days, yikes!

We have also contemplated trying first seating so we are not so full late in the evenings.
Actually yes, some of it can be too rich. We always have early lower dining so that is better. I have found food I use to eat and try now seems really greasy or really salty. The salty part for me is strange because I use to salt everything. I have not picked up a salt shaker since January.
When we were on the Oosterdam in May I did not eat constantly. We would eat breakfest. I usally had my Swiss Muesli with grapefruit juice and a V-8 juice and coffee. Lunch I would have something light like a salad or a small sandwich. I have never tried any of the hamburgers or things like that. I might splurge and have a piece of pizza. I also have had on a few days a small dish of ice cream. I actually like it that the portions are smaller now. I am a bit concerned about the upcoming cruise because I ate so much fresh salmon and other fish they offered on the Alaska cruise. I do not think I will be as lucky for Sea of Cortez.

ekerr19
October 11th, 2004, 01:57 PM
Lisa-

We've done a Mexican Riviera on the Statendam and the fish selection was fantastic. Some very fresh and tasty selections, I hope you find the same on the Sea of Cortez cruise - be sure and let us know.

DH cannot have salt added to food so I rarely will salt food that I am cooking. He has noticed the salt in his food onboard, but just has to drink more water.

I think we are going to try first seating on our upcoming Volendam cruise. It is caribbean so we won't have to worry about late shore excursions, etc. Lately, 8:00 - 8:15 seems to late to eat.

dakrewser
October 11th, 2004, 02:31 PM
I honestly don't think there is anything wrong with indulging oneself for 7 days as long as you get plenty of exercise in that 7 days.
That's the spirit! I always indulge in a pre- and post-prandial walk, use the stairs as much as possible, and take walking tours of the ports. I can usually hold the weight gain down to 1 lb a day or less. I guess a World Cruise is out of the question with that regimen, though, as I doubt I could back enough clothes to cover "all sizes"!:rolleyes:

-dave

cactuslady
October 11th, 2004, 05:37 PM
Thanks for posting Dave.

I'm curious though, does everyone eat like this everyday? It's hard to imagine. We have to eat cereal and 1% milk for breakfast, splurging on a full breakfast usually once or twice on a 10-day cruise (DH will eat more than I, but he has a fantastic metabolism).

I usually go for the egg breakfast, or at least the lox and bagel, or maybe a European-style breakfast of bread, ham and cheese. Not necessarily by choice. Although I eat cereal (with rice milk) at home, and make my own muesli, I'm lactose intolerant and so don't do well on a cereal-and-milk (or pancake or french toast) breakfast when traveling.

On the other hand, I save a lot of calories by skipping the ice cream, double lattes and coffee cream.

Sailboater
October 11th, 2004, 06:10 PM
We did the 18 day San Diego, Hawaii, Vancouver trip on the Statendam last spring. I found that the initial desire to "gorge" or "splurge" died off after the first few days. About day 3 or 4 you realize that you have 2 more weeks to try the various delicacies so you begin to pace yourself. I think on the shorter cruises the temptation to "try everything" so you don't miss something good is much greater than when you know that there will be more opportunities to try things later in the cruise.

We did take the stairs fairly religously and walked the ships mile on the promenade virtually every day. We didn't go out of our way to take walking tours on shore but most of the tours we did had a small walking component.

Neither of us gained more than 2-3 lbs on the trip which is less than we gained on the 7 day Alaska trip the year before (a full 5-6 lbs that time).

cruznon
October 11th, 2004, 09:24 PM
All that food! If one indulged everyday on a longer cruise, the phrase "being rolled down the gangplank" would truly fit!
There are so many interesting foods to try.... it can be a battle!
Daily exercise is an absolute necessity for most of us.