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abb4k
December 18th, 2008, 07:25 PM
I am reposting our member review here to the HAL board, for folks who might not look for it under member reviews...Please respond with any questions I might be able to answer for you. Also, we have three HAL Savings Booklets (onboard coupons) for anyone that might want them.

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This was our third cruise, though the first with Holland America and the first traveling with our daughter in tow. While it is difficult not to draw comparisons and contrasts with the other ships we have sailed on, I will try to avoid doing so here. We greatly enjoyed both of our previous cruises, but consider this one to be our best one yet. (Maybe it's because we've learned so much from Cruise Critic along the way!).

We arrived in Ft. Lauderdale a day early, and took a taxi van to the Embassy Suites near the cruise pier. The hotel was nice, with an exceptionally warm outdoor pool. There was free (albeit slow) internet access. And for those who are interested, both Total Wine and Publix are directly across the street from the Embassy Suites.

We took advantage of the hotel's free breakfast, then leisurely made our way over to the cruise pier around 11:30am. The line outside the pier was chaotic, as porters were hollering for passengers to stay behind a painted line, and there were no tensa-barriers (you know, the ones with the flexible straps) to form a line. Thus, there was a mob of passengers trying to enter the cruise terminal. Once inside though, the procedure was a piece of cake. We were slowed down a few moments by the fact that our daughter has one of the new passcards (rather than a passport), and the shore personnel also needed to find and affix a lifeboat wristband to our daughter (required for all passengers under 13, if I recall what they told us). In any event, we were on the ship by noon, and settled in a for a light lunch at the Lido buffet. Kudos to HAL for under-promising and overdelivering: They told us our cabins wouldn't be ready until 2:30, but an announcement was made at 1:45 that all staterooms were ready.

We headed to our stateroom, and were very pleased. The bed, as many have commented about HAL beds, was terrific. There were three storage closets, as well as drawers in both the nightstands, and two more drawers beneath the bed. As our room was a triple, there were also two additional cabinets above the pull-out sofa. The living area of the cabin was comparably sized to others we've had aboard Celebrity Mercury and Diamond Princess. The bathroom, however, was significantly more spacious than either of the two previous cruiseships we've sailed on. The shower/tub combination was great, lots of water pressure. And a thoughtful mirror with a pullout door provided extra "countertop" space for toiletries. An LG flat screen TV and a Coby DVD player enabled us to leave our daughter's DVD player at home - she likes to fall asleep to a movie at night. Another touch we really appreciated were the in-room curtains that effectively enabled us to separate the sofa area from the beds - by pulling the curtain across the room, we were able to read at night, without the light interfering with our daughter trying to sleep. The cabin location was also great. We considered this to be the most stable of the three cruises we've been on, and even when we hit some rough seas on the way back to Ft. Lauderdale, we felt very little motion in our cabin; by comparison, when we were up on deck 10 at Explorations (for our Cruise Critic meet and greet!), the motion was much more noticeable.

We met our stateroom attendant, Kurniana, and his assistant Harris. They're extremely friendly, attentive, and couldn't do enough for us. Kurni made up the couch into a mini bed for our 3-year-old daughter. Fresh fruit was waiting for us every day, and our daughter looked forward to the towel animal creations that greeted us each evening. (This was the first cruise on which we received towel animals - and a different one every night!)
Also awaiting us in our stateroom when we boarded was a bright pink envelope, containing all of our excursion tickets. There was also a letter from HAL, stating that due to an audit of port fees, a $5 refund per passenger was being credited to our onboard account. That was an unexpected, pleasant way to begin the cruise. Perhaps it was the good karma offset to the $70 in "fuel surcharges" we were assessed, even though fuel hit a 4-year low the week of our sailing -- yes, I consider that less than fair. But it wasn't going to interfere with us having a great time.

The lifeboat drill took place a little on the early side (4:30 as I'm remembering), and was handled a bit differently than others we've participated in. HAL's drill takes place outside on the promenade deck, and all cabins have to check in with a muster captain. Women and children at the front, men in the back. Apparently, in the event of a real emergency, men only get life rafts, women and children get the lifeboats. It felt a little like we were on the Titanic. It also took a little time before a crew member was able to find us a child life jacket, but eventually it was taken care of.

Dining: We had early fixed dining in the Vista Dining Room. Our waiters were Arsana and Jati, both of whom were terrific. Special requests were never a problem. Every night, they'd bring our daughter pretty much anything she wanted. Most nights, that was chicken nuggets, with fruit and French fries. Our wine steward, Jess, went way above and beyond the call of duty. Not only did he keep our wine glasses constantly full, but most nights he presented our daughter with his origami creations to entertain her. She now has a paper zoo that consists of an eagle, a hopping frog, a flying duck, a rabbit, and several other Jess creations. After the first night, Jati knew to bring us cappuccinos after clearing our plates - he had us figured out! (This was a really pleasant way to conclude dinner, and HAL scores bonus points in my book for providing complimentary cappuccino and espresso in the dining room). About the time we ordered dessert, Club HAL (the kids' club) would open (7pm), and one of us would bring our daughter up there.

So how was Club HAL? Let's put it this way: The last night of the cruise, our daughter left half a chocolate chip cookie on her dessert plate, and asked us to take her up to Club HAL. When we asked her if she wanted to finish her cookie first, she said No, she really wanted to go to the club. The counselors, Courtney and Nicole, seemed to always keep the kids busy with activities that ranged from pirate night to movie night, and even took all the kids to one of the theater shows one night...

...Speaking of which, the entertainment on board was very good. On our cruise, the evening shows consisted of several Vegas/Broadway-style sing/dance production shows, which were well executed. We also were treated to a crew singing/dancing show, comedienne Julie Barr (hilarious) and illusionist/comedian Leo Ward (awesome, though he's apparently heading home to New Zealand this week). We attended all of those evening shows, though didn't make it to the HAL version of American Idol. About the only critique I would offer is that the daytime entertainment options were somewhat limited, but on the port days that was a total non-issue, and on sea days we didn't really mind relaxing and reading either.

Service was incredible. I should state that we are not boozers (one drink a night during the show is our style), so I was rather shocked when one of the bar stewards recognized me on Half Moon Cay (which was the first port of call after departing Ft. Lauderdale), and immediately referenced the drink my wife had ordered the night prior in the Vista Lounge AND our cabin number. Two days later, he had learned how I sign my name, and was able to produce a very credible forgery on the drink tickets that passengers normally are asked to sign. I didn't sign for another drink the rest of the cruise; Joan Marc "signed" them for me. He also brought our 3-year-old a fruit drink in Half Moon Cay after she serenaded him with Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Star.

We were thoroughly amazed by the crew's memory - of cabin numbers, favorite drinks, names, etc. Everywhere we went on the ship, it seemed someone was calling our daughter's name - even the crew members dispensing Purell at the entrance to the Lido Buffet and the Yum-Yum man at the Vista Dining Room. It probably didn't hurt that Michele is precocious, and enjoyed learning and repeating Filipino and Indonesian words for Thank You and Goodbye to the crew. Still, the service was beyond belief - genuine, friendly, and caring.

PORTS OF CALL

On Half Moon Cay, I went parasailing. It was simply breathtaking. Beyond that, we had fun playing in the water, and our daughter enjoyed the kids' area with the slides. The water could not have been more clear or beautiful, and referring to the sand as talcum powder does the sand an injustice; the talcum powder is more rough. The buffet lunch on the island was better-than-expected, with standard picnic fare (hamburgers, watermelon, etc) supplemented by barbeque ribs, grilled fish, pineapple, and other tasty options.

The next day, we docked in Grand Turk. I would probably vote the water there to win the Turquoise Award, better even than Half Moon, which is saying something. We booked the Reefs & Rays excursion through the ship, and it was exceptional. A boat took our group of about 20 maybe a mile offshore to a coral reef called Round Key (Cay?) Reef, where we snorkeled amid colorful, tropical fish and the reef's resident barracuda. For someone who doesn't snorkel often at all, swimming within a couple arm's lengths of a barracuda is pretty spectacular -- especially since it didn't consider me lunch! After about 40 minutes of snorkeling, we hopped back on the boat, and headed to a tiny, uninhabited island (Gibbs Cay), where a family of Atlantic stingrays greeted us, and gobbled food (fish) right out of our hands. Our daughter joined us on the excursion, and while she stayed on the boat while we snorkeled, she enjoyed feeding and petting the stingrays.

After a sea day, we arrived in Grand Cayman. The weather was a bit rainy, which worked fine with our planned excursion - a city tour by bus combined with a stop at the Turtle Farm. Our daughter loved that, and got to hold a sea turtle, which was probably the highlight of the trip for her (at least that's what the photos suggest). As for the Rum Cake factory, don't waste your time: It is an overcrowded, chaotic hut frequented by every other tour group on the island. And the rum cakes, while delicious, are sold onboard the cruise ships at comparable prices. Speaking of which, the prices onboard the ship were generally extremely reasonable. We brought back two 1-liter bottles of Absolut vodka as Christmas gifts, because the prices were so amazing (total for two bottles of Absolut, offered in a choice of flavors, was $19.95, so less than $10 a bottle).

Our final port of call was Costa Maya. Here we booked a private excursion (i.e. not through the ship) with Native Choice. We learned about the Chacchoben ruins tour through Cruise Critic, and as usual, Cruise Critic delivered. What can you say when one guide is Mayan by birth and the other guide's father discovered the ruins in 1942? David and Ivan knew every plant, every stone, every nugget of trivia you could possibly imagine. They pulled leaves off of trees, sharing with us the scents and tastes of the forests as the ancient Mayans must have done thousands of years ago. Keep your eyes peeled for fire ants on the ground at the ruins, and also the resident Tarantula spider, which we didn't find out about until after he posed for a picture with us (no kidding!). I would highly recommend this tour. One other recommendation: Anything you might want to buy at the Chacchoben ruins will be one-fifth the price back at the shops by the Costa Maya pier; don't waste your money at Chacchoben.

We had one final sea day before returning to Ft. Lauderdale. Our flight home wasn't until 1:40pm, so we had a leisurely breakfast in the Lido, before disembarking around 10am. A word of warning: Breakfast in the Lido seemed to close fairly suddenly after we arrived at 9 or so. Arrive early, or risk missing breakfast. And of course, the Ft. Lauderdale airport is a 5-minute cab ride away -- couldn't be more convenient.

All in all, it was a fabulous cruise. We would definitely sail HAL and the Westerdam again in the future.


Publication Date: 12/18/08

jimmy2x
December 18th, 2008, 07:44 PM
Very nice report - what cabin were you in?

CowPrincess
December 18th, 2008, 07:54 PM
both Total Wine and Publix are directly across the street from the Embassy Suites.

Thanks for that tip!


Here we booked a private excursion (i.e. not through the ship) with Native Choice.

Thanks for THAT tip, too :)

Sounds like you enjoyed your cruise. Thanks for the very informative review.

abb4k
December 18th, 2008, 08:00 PM
We were in VE5115, deck 5, just aft of midship, starboard side.

snowcat
December 18th, 2008, 09:50 PM
We were on the same cruise and also had a great time! Nice review!

erinlaw
December 18th, 2008, 11:38 PM
If you wouldn't mind, I would like to ask you some additional questions about Club HAL. We are taking our 3 year old daughter on the Westerdam January 4, 2009. My email address is erinlaw@satx.rr.com if you prefer to discuss off-line. Thanks!

coho ken
December 18th, 2008, 11:58 PM
Thanks for the review. I would be more than happy to take one of those coupons books off your hands.

rebeljohn
December 19th, 2008, 12:07 AM
Nice review................Thanks for posting it...............

seafun
December 19th, 2008, 02:58 AM
It was great to hear of all the ways HAL "wowed you and won you." That's always been my experience as well and what keeps me coming back.

Your detailed review will surely help other folks on the fence to decide to take the plunge.

I'm glad you all had a great time and made some wonderful family memories.

cruiseapril
December 19th, 2008, 10:52 AM
Nicely done review.

We enjoyed the evening entertainment on the Westerdam- piano music in the Crow's Nest, sing along piano bar, big band sound on a formal night, and the talent show (Idol) which was great. They offer a good selection.

Krazy Kruizers
December 19th, 2008, 10:57 AM
Thanks for taking the time to post your review here as well.

Enjoyed it very much.

abb4k
December 19th, 2008, 10:00 PM
Krazy Kruiser,
Thanks for your response, and it was nice to meet you at the Embassy Suites pool.

Happy Kruizing!

katyf
December 20th, 2008, 02:16 PM
thank you for posting this! we are sailing on the 2/8 sailing with our 2.5 yo daughter (not yet old enough for the kids club unfortunately). we'll actually be in cabin 5116 (right across the hall). i'm so glad to read you were happy with HAL for a young child. We brought our daughter on the noordam last year and were really, really pleasantly suprised (so much so that i really sought out hal this time).

I especially liked the itinerary of the westerdam ... they are all easy on/easy off beach stops....which with a young child is really all we're going to be able to do in port.

how did your daughter do in the pool? did it have the shallow splash outer edge? (my daughter really liked that area on the noordam)?? also....can you remind me...there are kids meals at dinner, right? did you have issues getting kids meals in the lido? I know we had problems with that on the noordam.

Oh...and how was dismebarkation? do you happen to know what time they started letting passengers off the ship? we're considering a 10:30 flight from FFL....which i know is a risk but i'm thinking it would 'probably' be fine.

Glory2Him
December 20th, 2008, 04:13 PM
Oh...and how was dismebarkation? do you happen to know what time they started letting passengers off the ship? we're considering a 10:30 flight from FFL....which i know is a risk but i'm thinking it would 'probably' be fine.

Sorry to jump in here, but I can answer that. We were on the Westerdam last week and our flight back home was at 10:50. We made it no problem. We got off the ship between 8:45 and 9:00, but you can request an earlier departure. It was a breeze. If you can handle your own luggage, you can get off the ship by 7:00 I think. Happy cruising!

abb4k
December 20th, 2008, 05:47 PM
Katyf,

Our daughter has always loved to play in the pool, and yes, the pools onboard have plenty of shallow rims for kids to play on. We also brought her flotation vest from home with us, so we could toss her into the pool, and she could "swim" to her heart's content.

Yes, there are kids menus in the main dining room. Every night, they offered PB&J, chicken nuggets, hot dogs, hamburgers, and I think pasta of some sort. And of course, the children can order anything/everything off the main menu, if they want a soup, dessert, or anything else that appeals to their little taste buds.

We ate in the Vista Dining Room each evening, so do not have any first-hand experience with what Lido might be able to offer little kids.

Disembarkation was a breeze. You will get a questionnaire in your cabin one night asking what time your flight home is, and your disembarkation tag/time will be based on your travel plans. Literally, we walked down the gangway, directly into the cruise pier. You will then see luggage grouped by disembarkation tag (each tag is color coded). So it's pretty easy to find your bags among the thousands that are there. You then take a few steps, and present your bags and customs form to a Customs & Immigration officer. We heard "Welcome home," and after another few steps, we were at the taxi stand. There are porters everywhere with dollies who will be glad to assist you with your luggage.

Have a great cruise!

katyf
December 21st, 2008, 10:57 AM
Oh good....you guys have made me feel much better about booking the 10:30 flight home. I think we'll do it. (we haven't actually booked it yet). its the only direct flight before like 9pm that night, and the connection options just aren't fun. i think its worth the risk.

glad to hear the cruise went well with a little one! i'm assuming it will be simmilar to our Noordam experience (i sure hope so...we had a blast!).

abb4k
December 21st, 2008, 02:17 PM
Katyf,

I would not hesitate to book a 10:30am flight, I don't think you will have any problems at all.

From what I understand, Noordam is one of the three sister ships to Westerdam (both Vista class; Oosterdam and Zuiderdam are the others), so imagine you will find Westerdam very familiar. Westerdam recently went through its Signature of Excellence upgrades, so the theater has been modernized and there's a new culinary arts center in the Queen's Lounge. Perhaps Noordam had these when you last sailed. If not, then these will be pleasant little surprises for you.

abb4k
January 4th, 2009, 10:53 AM
Cohoken,
How do I send you one of these coupon books, without you broadcasting your mailing address to the whole world?

darcy24
January 4th, 2009, 01:13 PM
Coupon Book - if you send me an e-mail address, I will send you a street address.
thanks. darcyann48@aol.com

Queeniecruiser
January 4th, 2009, 07:46 PM
Thanks for your review. We will be sailing the Westerdam in March. What does the coupon book have in it, I might be interested in getting one of yours.
Thanks

m steve
January 5th, 2009, 10:58 AM
there was nothing of interest for us in them and just threw them away.

cmdchiefthom
January 5th, 2009, 04:47 PM
Outstanding review. I can't wait to board the Westerdam on April 5th!:D

carosave
January 5th, 2009, 07:04 PM
Thanks for the review...made me long for April 5 to get here more quickly--when we board with our 5 yo dd! (Who, also, in the past, has requested to "ditch Mommy and Daddy for Club HAL as well...!!)

I think the staff is great with kids--many knew who our dd was when we sailed last year (by name) and I had not seen them before!

Isailaway
January 12th, 2009, 09:47 PM
abb4k: we were on the same cruise ~ you typed up a wonderful review!
Didn't know how else to contact you, but wondered if you got your DVD from the Grand Turk excursion booked through HAL? We LOVED it! Donna did a great job and we will have great memories for years to come. Kathy (a fellow CC member from the meet & greet)

chiapet
January 13th, 2009, 05:49 PM
I know I'm a little late ... but I'd love to have a coupon book ... if you (or anyone else) still has one.

Please email me at chia_chia_pet@yahoo.com and I can send my street address.

Thanks!

cruzkitty
January 13th, 2009, 06:16 PM
Enjoyed your informative review!! I'll be sailing her in October. Did you eat at the Pinnacle Grill?

abb4k
January 18th, 2009, 09:14 PM
We did not eat at Pinnacle. The food in the main dining room was too good!
My in-laws had lunch at Pinnacle, and said it was excellent.

We did receive our DVD from the snorkeling expedition in Grand Turk, and agree that it was exceedingly well-done. Awesome memories. Still don't believe I was "that close" to a barracuda.

Between throwing our 3-year-old in the water with a barracuda in the area, and having our photo snapped in Chacchoben in the presence of a tarantula, my wife jokes that I don't have to worry about being nominated for Dad of the Year.