Jackets on Zuiderdam

[jwcook]

Will be on the Z for a Panama Canal cruise upcoming shortly and find that on a 10 day cruise there are 3 formal days. Is it permissible to wear dress pants with a nice jacket and tie rather than a formal suit or tux? I want to travel as light as possible but don't really want to look silly or out of place by what I wear to the formal dinners. Will the dress pants and jacket with tie suffice?
Thanks.
JW

[RuthC]

Yes, for a man, the minimal acceptable level of dress on formal nights is dress slacks and shirt, tie, and jacket.

[debnjoe1438]

Will be on the Z for a Panama Canal cruise upcoming shortly and find that on a 10 day cruise there are 3 formal days. Is it permissible to wear dress pants with a nice jacket and tie rather than a formal suit or tux? I want to travel as light as possible but don't really want to look silly or out of place by what I wear to the formal dinners. Will the dress pants and jacket with tie suffice?
Thanks.
JW

When are you traveling? DH and I are sailing 1/28

[off2ctheworld]

One of the formal nights out of the three listed for our recent Zuiderdam Panama Canal cruise was optional. That meant men were in the dining room including my dh without a tie. He still wore his sport coat, slacks and nice shirt. I wore black slacks and a mid length sleeve blouse with a slight metalic sheen instead of a very glittery top.

[maxsmamma]

That's what we are doing, and lots of other will be too. I'm sure others will post that you should be more formal for the dining rooms. But you will be in plenty of good company;)

[Bobs cruising]

I agree witht the other posters, Jacket, tie and dress shirt are A -OK.:cool::cool:

[Copper10-8]

Will be on the Z for a Panama Canal cruise upcoming shortly and find that on a 10 day cruise there are 3 formal days. Is it permissible to wear dress pants with a nice jacket and tie rather than a formal suit or tux? I want to travel as light as possible but don't really want to look silly or out of place by what I wear to the formal dinners. Will the dress pants and jacket with tie suffice?
Thanks.
JW

Sure! The dress code police as well as the Spanish Inquisition (who, btw, no one ever expects) will not take any shots at you on that one;)

[knitlady037]

We went on the same cruise 11/9. You will be fine dressed like that. There were many men and women that dressed casual on formal nights and nothing was said to them.

[pluisje]

In my opinion, on a formal night a dark suit or tuxedo must be worn. This should be worn not only during diner but the whole evening. As a European I fell that way .Many peole dont wear a dark suit, that is way HAL went down from a 5-star to a 4-star company and probably will loose one more star if they continue with the open seatings and let the rules slip.

If you dot like to wear a dark suit or tuxedo you can eat in the Lido restaurant.

We are now going back to Cunard / QE

[navybankerteacher]

In my opinion, on a formal night a dark suit or tuxedo must be worn. This should be worn not only during diner but the whole evening. As a European I fell that way .Many peole dont wear a dark suit, that is way HAL went down from a 5-star to a 4-star company and probably will loose one more star if they continue with the open seatings and let the rules slip.

If you dot like to wear a dark suit or tuxedo you can eat in the Lido restaurant.

We are now going back to Cunard / QE


I agree with you - but there is a difference between what should and what is. I would surely comply with any enforced dress code - even if it required black tie. However, because HAL does not even press or dark suits (on three recent cruises only a distinct minority wore even a dark suit), there is little point in my going to the difficulty of packing/carrying clearly unnecessary clothes.

[Opinions]

Will the dress pants and jacket with tie suffice?
Thanks

The jacket and tie will be OK and will also be in agreement with the HAL dress code.

[HALFans]

In my opinion, on a formal night a dark suit or tuxedo must be worn. This should be worn not only during diner but the whole evening. As a European I fell that way. Many peole dont wear a dark suit, that is way HAL went down from a 5-star to a 4-star company and probably will loose one more star if they continue with the open seatings and let the rules slip.

If you dot like to wear a dark suit or tuxedo you can eat in the Lido restaurant.

Not sure that that's the only reason for the loss of a star, but otherwise I couldn't agree more! (And I'm not European, I'm an Americanean!) :p

[Pokeynose]

In my opinion, on a formal night a dark suit or tuxedo must be worn. This should be worn not only during diner but the whole evening. As a European I fell that way .Many peole dont wear a dark suit, that is way HAL went down from a 5-star to a 4-star company and probably will loose one more star if they continue with the open seatings and let the rules slip.

If you dot like to wear a dark suit or tuxedo you can eat in the Lido restaurant.

We are now going back to Cunard / QE

Excuse me but not everyone thinks like you do. :mad:One thing we cannot afford a tux for DH to be worn only once or twice and another thing a nice jacket, dress shirt and tie look just as nice as a dark suit. With the weight limit on luggage this is not only acceptable but necessary for some. As far as I'm concerned Hal is the best line to sail on. I seldom take someone to task but you sound like you feel you are better than the rest of other people. I sure wouldn't want to meet you on a cruise, your nose is too high in the air for me.:rolleyes: In all my 75+ years I've only met a few like you and they were also european as we traveled to Europe several times with my DH's job. You have no right telling someone to eat in the Lido. So go take a jump. Sorry if I offended other posters but I believe in speaking my mind on some matters and this poster offended me.

[debnjoe1438]

In my opinion, on a formal night a dark suit or tuxedo must be worn. This should be worn not only during diner but the whole evening. As a European I fell that way .Many peole dont wear a dark suit, that is way HAL went down from a 5-star to a 4-star company and probably will loose one more star if they continue with the open seatings and let the rules slip.

If you dot like to wear a dark suit or tuxedo you can eat in the Lido restaurant.

We are now going back to Cunard / QE


THAT'S JUST MEAN:mad:

[Vic The Parrot]

Sure! The dress code police as well as the Spanish Inquisition (who, btw, no one ever expects) will not take any shots at you on that one;)



NOBODY EXPECTS the Spanish Inquisition !! :D

[Copper10-8]

NOBODY EXPECTS the Spanish Inquisition !! :D


Of course not........because their chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... Their two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency.... Their three weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency...and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope.... and nice red uniforms! Their four...no... Amongst their weapons.... Amongst their weaponry...are such elements as fear, surprise.... I'll come in again.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/10/Spanish_Inquisition_%28Monty_Python%29.jpg

http://people.csail.mit.edu/paulfitz/spanish/tt6.jpg

[Vic The Parrot]

Don't forget the "comfy chair" ... :D ;)

[RuthC]

.... Their three weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency...
Hey! Watch who you're calling a weapon! :eek:
Ruthless efficiency. Harrumph.

[Mary Ellen]

Ruthless efficiency. Harrumph. Are you saying you aren't efficient?? ;) ;) ;)

[Copper10-8]

Hey! Watch who you're calling a weapon! :eek:
Ruthless efficiency. Harrumph.

Touche!:)

[HALFans]

Hey! Watch who you're calling a weapon! :eek:
Ruthless efficiency. Harrumph.

Cardinal Biggles, Poke her with the soft cushion!

'It doesn't seem to be hurting her.'

Have you got all of the stuffing at one end?

[pipedreams62]

Play nice now

[twinkletoes4445]

Excuse me but not everyone thinks like you do. :mad:You have no right telling someone to eat in the Lido.

This poster posted 3 three posts and they're all three about the dress code. I think his post was meant to offend, for whatever reason. Fortunately, we rarely run into people with that attitude.

[coolmom]

We're booked on the Zuiderdam for the July 25th Alaska cruise and it's my first time on a HAL ship, although I've cruised the caribbean several times on Celebrity and RC and always enjoyed the formal nights. I'm a bit confused by their website. Under 'Clothing and Dress Code' it states:

Evening dress falls into two distinct categories: Formal or Smart Casual. Smart Casual can be defined as slacks and collared shirts for men and casual dresses, slacks and informal evening wear for women. T-shirts, swimsuits, tank tops and shorts are not allowed in the restaurants or public areas during the evening hours. On festive Formal evenings, ladies usually wear a suit, cocktail dress or gown and gentlemen wear a jacket and tie, dark suit or tuxedo. There are approximately two formal nights per week.

But at another link "Packing for Alaska" it says:

There are three smart casual and two formal evenings on every seven-day cruise. Please note, informal wear or formal wear is recommended at the Pinnacle Grill at all times.

Informal nights - sport jackets for men and dress slacks, casual dresses or skirts for women

Formal nights - jacket and tie required or tuxedo suggested for men, cocktail dress or gown for women

So are there three levels of dress or is 'smart casual' and 'informal' interchangeable? The one link says no jacket for smart casual but the other says jacket for informal. Help!

[RuthC]

But at another link "Packing for Alaska" it says:

[quote deleted by RuthC]

So are there three levels of dress or is 'smart casual' and 'informal' interchangeable? The one link says no jacket for smart casual but the other says jacket for informal. Help!
The "Informal" night classification was done away with a few years ago. Not uncommon, the HAL website wasn't updated in every area when that happened.
Your Alaska cruise will have 2 "formal" and 5 "smart casual" nights.

[coolmom]

Thank you for clarifiying. That means hubby will only need to pack 1 suit or Jacket/dress pants combo. I won't be bringing the ballgown skirt but a slim black silk one and two dress tops. That should cover the formal nights.

[off2ctheworld]

Coolmom, you and your dh will look great! Have a wonderful cruise.