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ryansmemom
October 30th, 2004, 12:50 PM
Good Afternoon,
I have decided to become a lurker for a while. It's about a month til my Circle Hawaii cruise and I may just stay in the background til after that cruise.
Lately, I have wondered if I have had a problem with my communication skills. Last night, I posted a few times and felt slammed. I was actually addressed by name and accused of "lecturing." I have never done that, never intended to do so. I was also taken to task for noticing information that other posters had missed. In another thread, I was quoted with what seemed to be an attitude. These are just two recent examples.
Let me tell you about me. I was raised to avoid conflict at all costs. While I know longer avoid it to that extent, I do not find it pleasureable to come to a message board, for the purpose of entertainment to find myself in the middle of conflict. I know many people enjoy conflict and seek it out. I did not post for many years because I did not want to court conflict and I have been very careful but something has gone awry. I thought I had made myself known, but I was mistaken.
These are my core beleifs:
Negativity is the most destructive force on the planet. It destroys our energy and our lives and deprives us of productivity and happiness. Living with negativity and being with negativly oriented people is like being pulled down a black hole.
Always give people the benifit of the doubt. Don't jump to conclusions that someone is out to hurt you or rip you off.
Generosity and kindness always makes things better.
Inclusion is always better than Exclusion.
The rules are there for a reason, structure makes things run more smoothly.
Respect yourself and your fellow persons regardless of their age, beliefs or socio-economic status.
I have had a rough year. My Mother and Mother-in law both passed away.I had Staff Pneumonia and septicemia, I suffer from chronic pain and disablilties. And of course on the plus side I have my new grandbaby Emily. And of course my grandson Ryan. I also have Lou and the rest of my family.
I don't know if others share any of my feelings. Some of you may have felt the way I feel because of things I have written. If you have, I am sorry. It was never my intention to be hurtful in any way to anyone. If you knew me personally, you would know that hurting another is abhorrent to me.
Aloha, I will be reading and when I feel better, I will post.
Linda
the2ofus
October 30th, 2004, 01:21 PM
Linda,
I haven't been reading a lot of the posts lately, so don't know what the situation is right now that has caused you to feel unwelcome. I think each of us has, at some time, either written something that was taken the wrong way, or been on the receiving end of some rather harsh words. Fortunately, most folks are 'live and let live'. Take some time off to step back and allow the bruises to heal. Then come back again so you can share the anticipation of your Hawaii cruise with us.
We did the cruise in April 2003 and had a wonderful time. I am sure you will too.
Ziggy7
October 30th, 2004, 01:25 PM
Awwwwww dont let them get to you, I just went thru the same thing not long ago, its best to just take a few days off and come back and be yourself, we are not going to be able to please everyone, but we can maybe help at least 1 person with our knowledge. I'm sorry some were harsh to you :)
And I would love to hear all about Hawaii, its my dream cruise :) Hope to see you back in a few days :)
Lovebirds
October 30th, 2004, 01:38 PM
Sometimes it is difficult to convey our thought and meaning when we put fingers to keyboard. Some writers are so gifted that we can almost see them speaking to us and see their expressions. For most of us, though, there is a lot that gets lost in our brief posts and responses.
I am aware of the thread that you are referring to, I posted there also. If I may, I would like to comment as to why your post stirred up some other posters. Since yours was the first response to OP it is the response most likely to draw opposing views. It also came across, not intended I'm sure, as overly authoritive. Somewhat like a Miss Manners reply. On these boards there are always posters that delight in challenging authority.
There were several posters there that were rude, a few of them intentionally so. I get some of these in response to my posts at times also. When it happens, you have to make a decision as to whether your position is worth defending, a compromise position is in order or you should just ignore. If you have had your say, as you did in the thread in question, then the best response, usually, is just let it go and move on. After a couple of posts that disagree, if there is no response the controversy dies.
I think your posts offer good insight most of the time and I hope you keep posting. Just don't let the disagreeable posters (as opposed to those who disagree) get to you.
sail7seas
October 30th, 2004, 01:46 PM
Linda.....
I think you contribute much to this board and I have learned alot reading your messages. I kindly request you reconsider. I would miss you if you were to stop posting.
Whatever your final decision in this regard, I wish you good health and the very best of everything.....(including a great cruise to Hawaii.)
Mary Ellen
October 30th, 2004, 02:22 PM
A while back I was also personally attacked - when I had done nothing. It is a very unsettling experience. I have discovered the 'Ignore List' is a WONDERFUL thing. I was very uncomfortable at first in choosing to put another poster on mine, but by doing so, it has kept me on the boards. I agree with your core beliefs and like having a variety of opinons, but rudeness is another thing.
Hope you have a great cruise -
Leslieswiger
October 30th, 2004, 02:31 PM
Linda, I do agree 200% with what S7S has said. You have much that you can offer and I find your threads most informative. Please rethink and stay with us.:) Your cruise I have done a few times and I can asure you, your going to enjoy every moment of it.:D Now PLEASE stay with us.. Happy Sailings...Leslie Swiger:)
lknick
October 30th, 2004, 02:33 PM
For some, if Jesus came down from heaven and sat on their laps, they'd tell him he's too heavy.
This is one of the few places where people can say anything without fear of consequences. And since they can hide behind anonymity they will always be with us. Even when you try to do them a favor, they think they are entitled to the favor. Criticism and arrogance seems to come easy here
CruisinNana
October 30th, 2004, 02:40 PM
Good Afternoon,
I have decided to become a lurker for a while. It's about a month til my Circle Hawaii cruise and I may just stay in the background til after that cruise.
Lately, I have wondered if I have had a problem with my communication skills. Last night, I posted a few times and felt slammed. I was actually addressed by name and accused of "lecturing." I have never done that, never intended to do so. I was also taken to task for noticing information that other posters had missed. In another thread, I was quoted with what seemed to be an attitude. These are just two recent examples.
Let me tell you about me. I was raised to avoid conflict at all costs. While I know longer avoid it to that extent, I do not find it pleasureable to come to a message board, for the purpose of entertainment to find myself in the middle of conflict. I know many people enjoy conflict and seek it out. I did not post for many years because I did not want to court conflict and I have been very careful but something has gone awry. I thought I had made myself known, but I was mistaken.
These are my core beleifs:
Negativity is the most destructive force on the planet. It destroys our energy and our lives and deprives us of productivity and happiness. Living with negativity and being with negativly oriented people is like being pulled down a black hole.
Always give people the benifit of the doubt. Don't jump to conclusions that someone is out to hurt you or rip you off.
Generosity and kindness always makes things better.
Inclusion is always better than Exclusion.
The rules are there for a reason, structure makes things run more smoothly.
Respect yourself and your fellow persons regardless of their age, beliefs or socio-economic status.
I have had a rough year. My Mother and Mother-in law both passed away.I had Staff Pneumonia and septicemia, I suffer from chronic pain and disablilties. And of course on the plus side I have my new grandbaby Emily. And of course my grandson Ryan. I also have Lou and the rest of my family.
I don't know if others share any of my feelings. Some of you may have felt the way I feel because of things I have written. If you have, I am sorry. It was never my intention to be hurtful in any way to anyone. If you knew me personally, you would know that hurting another is abhorrent to me.
Aloha, I will be reading and when I feel better, I will post.
Linda
Linda, I certainly understand your feelings when you are slammed....it gets you right in the pit of your stomach! I feel life is too short to engage in unnecessary controversy, so I have learned to ignore lots. I have just retired after being a middle school principal and working with middle school children and parents for 37 years, and I will assure you that you can't please everyone no matter how hard you try. Please keep posting. I enjoy your views.
Dee
RuthC
October 30th, 2004, 03:15 PM
Last month was someone else's turn; this month you have been slammed; next month will be another. And the beat goes on.
That doesn't make it any easier to take, though, does it.
Your contributions have been worthwhile. I hope the support you are finding in this thread will be a comfort to you and cause you to re-think your decision. But if it does not, enjoy your respite---and your cruise!---and know that we are anxiously awaiting your return to the boards.
Lisa63
October 30th, 2004, 03:27 PM
Linda, I know exactly how you are feeling. It's happened to me, as well. In my case, I was told that my opinion was wrong... the poster even attacked a source I had cited. Eeeesh.
Anyway, although I now lurk more than I post, I have always enjoyed your posts and have learned a lot from them. I saw the thread to which you refer, and I found nothing objectionable about your response. I'll understand if you decide to refrain from posting, but please know that your thoughts are valued.
dakrewser
October 30th, 2004, 04:28 PM
Linda -
While we don't always agree, we don't have to. Disagreement doesn't have to be unpleasant or negative. Opinions do differ and people who don't feel strongly about their opinions should be ignored. We should always have the "courage of one's convictions." Good discussions, disagreements, debates lead to better understanding. Discarding our opinion because someone objects to it is simply rolling over to the obnoxious and arrogant.
No one should use personal attacks, of course, but otherwise debate is healthy. Without it, democracy itself cannot flourish. Still, there comes a time when either one of the two parties is convinced of the other's opinion, both parties reach a compromise position they can both live with or the two parties "agree to disagree". All are healthy outcomes.
Agreement and consensus are good, desirable outcomes - but they aren't always possible. As long as we remember to discuss ideas, rather than personalities.
-dave
LAFFNVEGAS
October 30th, 2004, 04:58 PM
Linda, Unfortuately these boards can be hurtful. Words do not always reflect what we really mean and that goes both ways from what we read and what we write. I too have been flamed here I now look at it as a Initiation or Right of Passage to these Boards. Even veteran posters have been flamed. Unfortuately I know of some very valuable members who stopped posting to this board because of being flamed and it is unfortunate. Just hang in there know it is only words, brush it off and continue being a valuable asset to this board.
cruisingangel
October 30th, 2004, 05:46 PM
Linda,
I too have reurned to lurking due to people not understanding what I was trying to say in my post and have been slammed. Sometimes its just easier to read than to engage in the negativity here.
Michele
RaffinOrganGrinders
October 30th, 2004, 07:44 PM
Linda,
Lurke not! Just jump on in and swim with all of us, even if there may be a few sharks on occasion, stay in the middle of the school (fish) (LOL).
Everyone is welcome and if on occasion some one else gets a little out of hand, the rest of us "fish" will keep them in tow.
George
bkreader
October 30th, 2004, 08:02 PM
Linda,
You sound like a good person - wish I knew you. I had to quit an e-mail list once because of nasty comments when I made a small mistake in one of my messages. It really hurt a lot.
I hope you come back because the vast majority of folks on this board are really supportive. I wish you the very best and happy cruising.
Jane
superstein61
October 30th, 2004, 08:27 PM
LOL - Linda, I think you are too sensitive. Hell, I am slammed at least weekly here and it doesn't bother me in the least. :D
Consider the source and shrug it off and move on :)
CDRMark
October 30th, 2004, 09:31 PM
To thine own self be true.
Quendryth
October 30th, 2004, 11:42 PM
Hi Linda
Just put all those a-holes on the Ignore list! I find it quite invigorating to know I don't have to read their garbage (of course, they can ignore my garbage too!) Don't let them get you down!
BTW say hello to Lou & see you both again on the Veendam in Nov. 2005!
:cool: :cool: :cool:
Sue's Mom
October 31st, 2004, 03:58 AM
I think it's sad that a message board can cause upset, even if, at times, it is unintentional. I would not deliberately post anything that was hurtful - I would rather not reply at all. There is enough hurt in the world already. But every person is different. Sometimes I have to take the rough with the smooth - fortunately I am a person who "bounces back" and learned to do so from a very early age.
Hope you can bounce back too - we'd love to hear from you. :)
anngie
October 31st, 2004, 09:28 AM
When I saw the post that you are referring to the other night, I thought "oh, my goodness". It has happened to someone nice again.
Please don't let it bother you too much. You have much to add to the board and you seem to enjoy it. It is usually a nice diversion from life's problems. Just don't let the barbs get to you. If you post enough someone is going to take that haughty attitude toward something that you say. Just take it with a grain of salt. I would not even bother to retaliate.
Enjoy your wonderful cruise and think of the board as entertainment. I do for the most part. It is good to get needed information from sometimes and fortunately the nice people outnumber the lemons.:D You don't have anything to apologize for.
Roadwork
October 31st, 2004, 10:02 AM
I guess I just don't understand the purpose of this. I went back and read the threads. One thing I found was the questioning of the honeymoon. Well, I didn't see it either and saw nothing wrong with asking where it came from. Yes, it was explained later that it was in a signature, but not everyone has that feature turned on so this caused questions on it.
As far as lectures go, many people post their opinions and at times the post can read like a lecture or their way is the only way or perhaps a critizisim. It may not always be meant this way but you should not get your feelings hurt when you post an opinion that someone disagrees with or questions. Look at Superstein and Revneal. They are in WWIII over dress code and I doubt if that war will ever end. Neither one of them are saying they get their feelings hurt.
I am sure everyone on these boards has considered themselves slammed/flamed at one time or another. I may even get slammed/flamed for this post but this is my opinion and that is the way I see it.
grannynurse
October 31st, 2004, 10:15 AM
Just ignore the pickiness, it's not worth taking this seriously, your time and emotional well-being is too valuable for anyone to waste.
Rude is never acceptable, but you don't have to accept it or let it sour your enjoyment of these boards.
IF someone specific hurts your feeling, put them on ignore if you think it is becoming a pattern.
We love you, please don't go away, except to cruise.
GN
dakrewser
October 31st, 2004, 12:49 PM
LOL - Hell, I am slammed at least weekly here and it doesn't bother me in the least. :D
Darn!
:rolleyes: -dave
sail7seas
October 31st, 2004, 12:52 PM
Dave........ :D
RuthC
October 31st, 2004, 01:01 PM
Dave, you are one perceptive dude.
HeatherInFlorida
October 31st, 2004, 01:06 PM
Linda, I've been gone for over a week because my computer blew up. Still at the fix-it, but I just run over to a friend's to check my mail. So I don't know what happened here for you.
But please don't let anyone scare you away. It's happened to all of us ... certainly right off the bat I recall ME:) , Ziggy, Pudgesmom, even Sail!!!! I walked away twice and then said the heck with this! So now I'm here to stay and people can say what they will.
And, Michele, I hope you'll know this for yourself as well. No one's remarks should make anyone else feel they cannot express themselves here. There's disagreement everywhere ... why should CC be any different?;)
Of all times to enjoy this board, it's just before a cruise. So quit the lurking and join in and know that there are so many here who enjoy your thoughts, your beliefs, and your feelings and even if we happen to disagree with you, we won't slam you.
SacDr
October 31st, 2004, 02:53 PM
Linda,
You know how I feel. Y'all come back, Y'hear.
Ben
mountainmare
October 31st, 2004, 03:47 PM
Does anyone realize that we are just typing?
This is not a face to face conversation where you can read someone's expression.
This is not a phone call where you can hear distress in a voice-- or an uncomfortable silence.
This is not even a handwritten letter where you can see the pen strokes getting stronger!!
It is typing!! It is instant emotion and unerasable but it is still typing to people who are either strangers or maybe acquaintances.
But we are all here because we are among the fortunate few who actually get a chance to go on a cruise ship. I wish that I could join you on a cruise to Hawaii just think how lucky we all are.
cruisingangel
October 31st, 2004, 06:26 PM
Heather,
Thanks for the kind words and hope your computer gets fixed soon. I hope you are well and getting ready to cruise.
Michele
ryansmemom
October 31st, 2004, 09:06 PM
An email from a friend brought me back. Then I read the posts. I really appreciate all of the support and kind words from all of you who have responded to my distress. I had no idea, really. Thanks so much for your wisdom. And thanks for caring.
I am well aware that there are those who enjoy the game. I am also well aware that there are many of us who do not enjoy playing the confrontational version of it.
I guess I could develop a thicker skin, but I really like my skin the way it is. Although it leaves me vulnerable to being hurt, it also leaves me open to being very loved and very loving as well. Like Pandora, when the box is open all feelings are exposed. That is just who I am.
Again, thanks so very much. It's good to be back.
Happy Cruises everyone!!!
Linda
superstein61
November 1st, 2004, 12:17 AM
I guess I just don't understand the purpose of this. I went back and read the threads. One thing I found was the questioning of the honeymoon. Well, I didn't see it either and saw nothing wrong with asking where it came from. Yes, it was explained later that it was in a signature, but not everyone has that feature turned on so this caused questions on it.
As far as lectures go, many people post their opinions and at times the post can read like a lecture or their way is the only way or perhaps a critizisim. It may not always be meant this way but you should not get your feelings hurt when you post an opinion that someone disagrees with or questions. Look at Superstein and Revneal. They are in WWIII over dress code and I doubt if that war will ever end. Neither one of them are saying they get their feelings hurt.
I am sure everyone on these boards has considered themselves slammed/flamed at one time or another. I may even get slammed/flamed for this post but this is my opinion and that is the way I see it.
Agreed Roadwork. Always remember - its just an internet message board. Do not take it too seriously. Do not take what someone else says to heart. Don't be too sensitive over what someone else says. Its just an internet message board.
As I mentioned earlier - I get slammed at least weekly here and it doesn't bother me. I laugh it off. If everyone tried not to take things so seriously, they probably would be happier
superstein61
November 1st, 2004, 12:18 AM
Darn!
:rolleyes: -dave
Doesn't mean you can't keep trying Dave - but I have been slammed by far better :D
gizmo
November 1st, 2004, 08:02 AM
Agreed Roadwork. Always remember - its just an internet message board. Do not take it too seriously. Do not take what someone else says to heart. Don't be too sensitive over what someone else says. Its just an internet message board.
As I mentioned earlier - I get slammed at least weekly here and it doesn't bother me. I laugh it off. If everyone tried not to take things so seriously, they probably would be happier
Wise Words !!!!
jazzsea
November 1st, 2004, 09:50 AM
I used to post on these boards regularly. Then sometime in 2000 I irritated someone who made it his new life's work to torment me. He emailed me, called me, even wrote to me at my office. I felt stalked and frightened. I did not post on these boards for nearly four years.
Recently I have returned to the boards. I enjoy the information and sense of community. I doubt I would let anyone run me off again.
Please stay.
HeatherInFlorida
November 1st, 2004, 10:26 AM
Carol, I know I'm glad you're back. I love your posts. And, Lynda, glad you're back:) . I'm thin skinned and vulnerable, too, and won't change anytime soon. I'm also sensitive and that's a good thing. So it's not that I don't get hurt by some postings on these boards, I just try not to take it to heart.
Now if I could just have my own computer back!!
DFD1
November 1st, 2004, 02:08 PM
Carol: Interesting story about the person who went to unthinkable extremes to hurt you because of something that happened here. It is absolutely astonishing to me that someone could have a life so empty as to cause them to take anything written on this message board so serious as to want to strike back at the writer in such a dangerous way. I am approaching my "mature" years and I still am amazed at the stupidity of some people.
I'm glad you were finally able to put it behind you.
I'm just past 300 posts here and what I have noticed is that board particpation is well managed by the vast majority of the posters, but that there are a few who make far too much of it and assign it what seems to me to be unreasonable importance. Addiction might be the right word.
All the above in my opinion. Not intended to be a lecture. Be gentle, please....or ignore.
Jackjenson
November 1st, 2004, 02:42 PM
Please don't be offended, but I thought it was absolutely hysterical when Peaches and that other guy came down on you about the "honeymoon" issue. I laughed and laughed! How could they have not seen that, and then upon being confused, not have looked back at the original post and seen it there as plain as day! I mean, really!
So at least the posts that hurt your feelings gave me a chuckle, certainly my mirth was NOT worth you being hurt.
I have a tendency to use sarcasm (or try to) and that doesn't work too well on the message board.
Next time try to laugh at how silly some of the posters are.
All the best
gizmo
November 1st, 2004, 04:19 PM
Please don't be offended, but I thought it was absolutely hysterical when Peaches and that other guy came down on you about the "honeymoon" issue. I laughed and laughed! How could they have not seen that, and then upon being confused, not have looked back at the original post and seen it there as plain as day! I mean, really!
Ease up Jackjenson. There is nothing hysterical about it. How could they have not seen that? Very easily. Many people have that feature turned off. I can still look at the original post and I don't see it either. If you go to edit options under UserCP you can turn off seeing signatures, avatars and pictures.
Another post on this thread also mentions this feature not being used and that is why some people did not see it.
Lefty Bob
November 1st, 2004, 05:06 PM
If you have that feature turned off, how could one comment about any post. Just my opinion.
Lefty Bob
dakrewser
November 1st, 2004, 05:24 PM
If you have that feature turned off, how could one comment about any post. Just my opinion.
Lefty Bob
You still see the message, just not the signature. This message has the signature, the next one does not.
dakrewser
November 1st, 2004, 05:25 PM
If you have that feature turned off, how could one comment about any post. Just my opinion.
Lefty Bob
You still see the message, just not the signature. This message has no signature, the previous one does.
gizmo
November 1st, 2004, 05:26 PM
I don't agree you have to have signatures, avatars and pictures turned on to comment about a post. As Darkrewser said you see all the text.
I am sure there are a number of people that have this feature turned off. I have had mine off since day one on this new board. On the old board there were numerous complaints about the size of the signatures and the big pictures. This feature solved the problem.
HeatherInFlorida
November 1st, 2004, 05:42 PM
I like the signatures, avatars, etc. It tells a lot more about the "story" of each person. If you have all of this turned off, I think you miss alot. At one point, I turned them all off for some reason, but I quickly realized I was just just seeing words and not the personalities I'd come to enjoy. But it's a personal choice. JMHO.
Lefty Bob
November 1st, 2004, 06:34 PM
You are right. Sorry.
bookworm0911
November 1st, 2004, 06:40 PM
One thing for sure and certain- a LOT of posters have the sigs, avatars, and images turned off. There were so many complaints about the length and size of these and CC would never have offered the option of turning them off if there hadn't been a lot of requests for it. I turned them off the minute this new board started. Try it, you'll like it. :D
Sage
November 1st, 2004, 06:43 PM
Linda,
I'm so glad that you decided to rejoin the board. You are so well versed and a much treasured poster by many of us on this board, and it would be a shame to not have your input.
superstein61
November 1st, 2004, 10:02 PM
I don't agree you have to have signatures, avatars and pictures turned on to comment about a post. As Darkrewser said you see all the text.
I am sure there are a number of people that have this feature turned off. I have had mine off since day one on this new board. On the old board there were numerous complaints about the size of the signatures and the big pictures. This feature solved the problem.
Agreed Gizmo. to me, signatures, avatars, etc are a waste of bandwidth. I too have them all turned off
ryansmemom
November 1st, 2004, 11:46 PM
It is good to be back. To tell you the truth, I was shocked tonight when i signed on to find that this thread was still alive!!
As far as the responses to my post on the original thread when I felt flamed, I felt badly for the original poster. The way I saw it, this nice newbie was going on his Honeymoon Cruise and wanted to know if it would be OK to offer to share a bottle of wine with his tablemates. I had this whole fantasy going on in my head about this. This was a great opportunity for celebration. Celebration happens to be one of my favorite things to do.(I learned that from my Dad.)
This was an opportunity for generosity, graciousness and celebration and here was this guy asking if it was OK to do this on a cruise ship with his new bride. So I jumped right in and said "Go for it."
Well before I knew it the topic turned into one of obligation and whether or not one would like the sort of wine being offered or if it was the right wine with the right food. I said to myself, what happened to the celebration, fun, generosity and grace? The poor guy just wanted to celebrate and feel good. He must be feeling horrible right now.
I wish I had his e-mail address. I would like to talk to him. I hope we haven't scared him away.
So, as I said, thanks so much for all of the support. I'm so happy to be back. And I am really going to Hawaii on the Statendam very, very soon.
Linda
gizmo
November 2nd, 2004, 09:49 AM
This is typical of any board. People interpret what they read in different ways.
I see the original post as something entirely different. I did not read it as he
was asking if it OK to offer to share, but if it would be impolite not to offer and would people understand it was a personal bottle. The key words are NOT and PERSONAL BOTTLE. In other words my interpretation is the complet opposite of yours.
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As far as the responses to my post on the original thread when I felt flamed, I felt badly for the original poster. The way I saw it, this nice newbie was going on his Honeymoon Cruise and wanted to know if it would be OK to offer to share a bottle of wine with his tablemates. I had this whole fantasy going on in my head about this. This was a great opportunity for celebration. Celebration happens to be one of my favorite things to do.(I learned that from my Dad.)
This was an opportunity for generosity, graciousness and celebration and here was this guy asking if it was OK to do this on a cruise ship with his new bride. So I jumped right in and said "Go for it."
Well before I knew it the topic turned into one of obligation and whether or not one would like the sort of wine being offered or if it was the right wine with the right food. I said to myself, what happened to the celebration, fun, generosity and grace? The poor guy just wanted to celebrate and feel good.
LindaWe are travelling alone (2 persons) and are sittting at a table for 8. If we order wine with dinner is it impolite not to offer the others at the table some wine or does everyone understand that this is a "personal bottle"? All topics turn into a discussion on these boards, and most of the time all angles are covered. On this subject it would include obligation, the right wine with the right food, good manners and your opinion of celebration etc. I see nothing wrong with any of it including your opinions or anyone elses. One thing to remember, when you post an opinion there will always be someone who disagrees, interprets it differently or questions it.
These boards discuss every issue to death and then the subject rises from the dead and we do it all over again.:D
sail7seas
November 2nd, 2004, 09:58 AM
I like the signatures, avatars, etc. It tells a lot more about the "story" of each person. If you have all of this turned off, I think you miss alot. At one point, I turned them all off for some reason, but I quickly realized I was just just seeing words and not the personalities I'd come to enjoy. But it's a personal choice. JMHO.
I agree, Heather. I think that SOME of the signatures, avatars etc tell something about the poster. Sometimes the more you have an image of a person the better you can understand what they are saying and if helps avoid at least a few misinterpretations.
HeatherInFlorida
November 2nd, 2004, 11:45 AM
Agreed Gizmo. to me, signatures, avatars, etc are a waste of bandwidth. I too have them all turned offAh, Superstein, this is such a disappointment! And here I thought you loved me for my adorable face:rolleyes: ! Had you had them turned on you would have seen what a sweet, angelic person I actually am and we would never have exchanged a harsh word;) .
localady
November 2nd, 2004, 11:58 AM
I agree......my avatar is my bag!:eek:
It helps me keep things light in here. Oh, and it's good sun protection on these Carribbean cruises too!!!!:D
:cool:
ryansmemom
November 2nd, 2004, 12:36 PM
This is typical of any board. People interpret what they read in different ways.
I see the original post as something entirely different. I did not read it as he
was asking if it OK to offer to share, but if it would be impolite not to offer and would people understand it was a personal bottle. The key words are NOT and PERSONAL BOTTLE. In other words my interpretation is the complet opposite of yours.
. All topics turn into a discussion on these boards, and most of the time all angles are covered. On this subject it would include obligation, the right wine with the right food, good manners and your opinion of celebration etc. I see nothing wrong with any of it including your opinions or anyone elses. One thing to remember, when you post an opinion there will always be someone who disagrees, interprets it differently or questions it.
These boards discuss every issue to death and then the subject rises from the dead and we do it all over again.:D
Gizmo,
I did not have a problem with people interpreting the original post differently than I did. My problem was that I was flamed for my interpretation and furthermore my perception of reality was questioned as well when I was challenged as to where I had gotten my information.
So, give me a break here. I'll give every else the benift of the doubt they deserve, given that they may have had certain features of the board turned off. So, let's not shoot from the hip.
Let's just play nicely for a while.
Linda :)
gizmo
November 2nd, 2004, 01:06 PM
My intent was to point out how people interpret things differently and that discussions and opinions do arise.
I even stated that I saw nothing wrong with your opinion or anyone elses.
Shooting from the hip? I guess that falls under the category of interpretation.
My post was not meant that way. Agree ,We should all Play Nice :)
ryansmemom
November 2nd, 2004, 03:17 PM
Sorry Gizmo, please accept my apology for any feelings I may have hurt. I did not mean to. Peace to all.
Linda
superstein61
November 2nd, 2004, 03:22 PM
Ah, Superstein, this is such a disappointment! And here I thought you loved me for my adorable face:rolleyes: ! Had you had them turned on you would have seen what a sweet, angelic person I actually am and we would never have exchanged a harsh word;) .
Hmmm - maybe I will trun them on briefly to see what I have been missing. But I used to get annoyed at the long drawn out signatures of some folks. I really don't care how many and what cruises they went on - which is what many used to list in their signatures
HeatherInFlorida
November 2nd, 2004, 03:55 PM
Hmmm - maybe I will trun them on briefly to see what I have been missing. But I used to get annoyed at the long drawn out signatures of some folks. I really don't care how many and what cruises they went on - which is what many used to list in their signatures
Not a whole lot of that anymore, actually. People tend now to tell us where they're going rather than where they've been which is, in the end, really much more important, don't you think:D?.