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irishjim
April 11th, 2009, 11:10 AM
:mad:Does anyone think this is fair?CC board offers a free cruise for 2 on HAL
Eurodam,but one must be a resident of the USA to enter for the draw,As a longtime cruiser with HAL and a Canadian why am I not allowed to enter?
Is it some kind of law that restricts me:confused: Just asking.
Jim.:D:D:D

mr green
April 11th, 2009, 11:20 AM
:mad:Does anyone think this is fair?CC board offers a free cruise for 2 on HAL
Eurodam,but one must be a resident of the USA to enter for the draw,As a longtime cruiser with HAL and a Canadian why am I not allowed to enter?
Is it some kind of law that restricts me:confused: Just asking.
Jim.:D:D:D

It may have something to do with our gaming laws.

john

irishjim
April 11th, 2009, 11:37 AM
Thanks John,that is what I was thinking too.
Jim.

lambcom
April 11th, 2009, 11:48 AM
I've received promotional e-mails from HAL and other cruise lines I've used offering a chance to win a free cruise and the fine print always says that only US residents are eligible. Seems to me that, given Canadians make up a substantial part of their customer base, the lines could offer two contests -- one for Americans and one for Canadians (and other countries)

It seems to me that this is a no-brainer. As these e-mails are sent to past customers and the line knows where we live, if we aren't eligible, don't send us the e-mail.

George +

alphakitty
April 11th, 2009, 11:54 AM
Canadian law says you have to complete a game of skill question to enter a contest from what I read here:

http://www.canimakebigmoneyonline.com/index.php/20071221-contest-and-sweepstakes-laws-around-the-world-are-complicated/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skill_testing_question

:)

George...you make a great point!

irishjim
April 11th, 2009, 05:15 PM
I've received promotional e-mails from HAL and other cruise lines I've used offering a chance to win a free cruise and the fine print always says that only US residents are eligible. Seems to me that, given Canadians make up a substantial part of their customer base, the lines could offer two contests -- one for Americans and one for Canadians (and other countries)

It seems to me that this is a no-brainer. As these e-mails are sent to past customers and the line knows where we live, if we aren't eligible, don't send us the e-mail.

George +
HAL E-MAILS to my home address are never sent to me or my DW.After repeated requests for them,NOTHING? With 17 HAL cruises under my belt,I have given up with this cruise line.We love to sail on their ships but think their head office could not care less imho.
Jim.:mad::mad:

jhannah
April 11th, 2009, 05:27 PM
Canadian law says you have to complete a game of skill question to enter a contest from what I read here: They should be able to do that pretty easily.

1) On what ship deck does navigation take place?
2) What is a common short name for "propeller?"
3) How many windows does an inside stateroom have?
4) On which deck will you find the Lido Buffet?
5) The "Master of the Vessel" is also known as the _______.


:D

fann1sh
April 11th, 2009, 06:03 PM
Jim, I like your skill testing questions better than the mathematical ones they actually use!

msmayor
April 11th, 2009, 06:53 PM
I felt the same way when we were in Toronto and wanted to enter a promotion the Blue Jays were having to win free tickets to the stadium along with a hotel stay.

US residents were excluded. :(

flag fan
April 11th, 2009, 08:04 PM
I suspect that limiting the constest to U.S. residents is to avoid having to worry about different laws in different countries that may make such contests illegal. Even if the line complied with Canadian laws, what about Australian and British laws or the laws of other countries with frequent cruisers, like European, not to mention laws of countries likely to have few contestants enter but one might be a winner? So, the contest is for the majority of their customers and avoids legal problems by not expanding the contest to customers not in the U.S. This is a business and it is a business decision that I'm sure is not meant to insult cruisers from other countries, but I can see where non-US cruises might consider it unfair.

But in solidarity with my Canadian and Mexican neighbors, I will refuse to enter the contest! (I never bother entering these things because I never win and am worried about ending up on some spam or caller list, but now I can not enter for high moral reasons.)

Pete Jackson
April 11th, 2009, 09:59 PM
Anyway, a free cruise is not much of a prize since it will be the cheapest cabin, short duration, and capacity controlled. It would be better to give some cash credit, say $800, toward your next cruise with no restrictions.

barrywpg
April 11th, 2009, 10:14 PM
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3) How many windows does an inside stateroom have?

Trick question - we've got an inside cabin on the Volendam booked
that has 1 window (yes, that looks outside)

kryos
April 11th, 2009, 10:15 PM
:mad:Does anyone think this is fair?CC board offers a free cruise for 2 on HAL
Eurodam,but one must be a resident of the USA to enter for the draw,As a longtime cruiser with HAL and a Canadian why am I not allowed to enter?
Is it some kind of law that restricts me:confused: Just asking.
Jim.:D:D:DMaybe they are running a separate contest for folks from Canada and other countries where gaming laws might be different? Just a thought.

Blue skies ...

--rita

TravelAddiction
April 11th, 2009, 11:14 PM
Yet you can win a cruise at the last Bingo or through the draw on the second to last cruise day, regardless of where you are from. LOL!!

ger_77
April 12th, 2009, 01:50 AM
As a longtime cruiser with HAL and a Canadian why am I not allowed to enter?

Jim just remember that even when they win the free cruise, folks living "south of the 49th" have to pay tax on the value of the cruise. If we win "up here", we pay zilch, zip, nada. There are lots of contests we aren't allowed to enter - magazines, in particular; it doesn't bother me any more. You will find contests that HAL issue frequently include us, so just wait for them.

Smooth Sailing! :):):)

anchorage1977
April 12th, 2009, 03:39 AM
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3) How many windows does an inside stateroom have?

Trick question - we've got an inside cabin on the Volendam booked
that has 1 window (yes, that looks outside)

I know exactly which cabins you are in... I had one in 2003 on the Volendam facing aft and it was one of my favorite cabins to this day. You'll have the whole back deck nearly to yourself as almost nobody goes down there from the pool area.

Have a great vacation!

wilsonqbc
April 12th, 2009, 09:05 AM
All gaming laws in Canada are regulated by each province,
now get this, which I think stinks lol
sometimes contest are available through out canada, except some provinces dont allow them, such as quebec, no internet contests allowed what so ever, unless they are made up by Loto Quebec
Regie des course et jeux (translation means : Dept of games & races)
they say it is to protect us from scams, ha ha ha!! the truth

haligonian37
April 12th, 2009, 09:55 AM
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3) How many windows does an inside stateroom have?

Trick question - we've got an inside cabin on the Volendam booked
that has 1 window (yes, that looks outside)

I hope you thoroughly enjoy that cabin! I stayed in one on a 10 day Panama Canal cruise and despite being seasick a few days, I would book it again in a heartbeat. Even while laying in bed, not feeling my best, I had one of the best views ever.

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_8FFLPaS-8ww/R5ynqwfMu6I/AAAAAAAABxk/_b0b9Cb7Toc/s640/IMG_0936.jpg

Pam in CA
April 12th, 2009, 03:19 PM
:mad:Does anyone think this is fair?CC board offers a free cruise for 2 on HAL Eurodam,but one must be a resident of the USA to enter for the draw,As a longtime cruiser with HAL and a Canadian why am I not allowed to enter? Is it some kind of law that restricts me:confused: Just asking. Yes, there are gaming laws and Quebec has their own laws and requirements. There are a few regulations that must be met in order for a sweepstakes to be legal in Quebec that aren't required in the U.S. Among them is that the sponsor must have a Canadian office; another is that the Rules must be in both English and French; another is that the sweepstakes must be registered and bonded before being allowed. While a U.S. sweepstakes must be registered in New York and Florida in order to be legal, it's not the hassle and extra expense that it is for Quebec.

The "skill" question can be quite simple and required only for a winner whose legal address is in Canada. We used a math question that wasn't too complicated; no one ever got it wrong. :)

Even if you win, you must pay taxes on the retail value of the prize. :)