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RaffinOrganGrinders
November 3rd, 2004, 08:41 AM
On past cruises I have packed both my black and white tux, giving a little variety for formal nights on a longer cruise.
Trying to pack lighter for our upcoming ms Westerdam cruise next week I suggested to the DW that I only pack the white tux as it is more comfortable. She felt I should wear the heavier black tux this time of year.
With this cruise being after the calendar date "Labor Day" can a gentleman get away with wearing white? If up to me I will just ignore convention and wear white anyway.
George :eek:
Stevesan
November 3rd, 2004, 08:53 AM
"Convention" would dictate black from Memorial Day to Labor Day except for year round warm climates, such as the Caribbean and Mediterranean. So wear the white. You'll be in proper uniform.
CaptData
November 3rd, 2004, 09:01 AM
I agree, with warmer climes wear white. But, I have a warning don't spill anything, it will show.
TedC
November 3rd, 2004, 09:15 AM
No problem, just drink white wine - or gin and vodka ( or even water).
saltydog28
November 3rd, 2004, 09:58 AM
Hello George- I have a question... When you say a white tux, do you mean a completely white tux--jacket and pants--or do you mean a white dinner jacket and black pants? Either way, in the tropics, white or cream is fine.
Pat.
sail7seas
November 3rd, 2004, 10:00 AM
White dinner jacket is fine year round in the Caribbean. DH often wears a white dinner jacket for Caribbean cruises but black tux for Europe or Canada/New England.
Either is fine.
tommy
November 3rd, 2004, 10:04 AM
George,probably doesnt matter but we were on a B2B and did not see one white tuxedo. TOM
jhannah
November 3rd, 2004, 10:06 AM
Your white one will be perfect. Besides, that wearing white "rule" is for women, to give them an excuse to buy more shoes! :D
Pudgesmom
November 3rd, 2004, 10:19 AM
From the International Butler's Guild:
"Black tie" can best be described as
"party wear" or "evening wear."
Tuxedos fall in this category. Tailcoats are not officially tuxedos. A tuxedo is a suit which consists of a standard-length coat with some dressy trim and a pair of matching pants. Dinner jackets, light-colored standard-length coats with dark-colored trousers, also fall into this category. The term "black tie" can be confusing because it was adopted when black was the only color in which formal ties were available. Today, the term merely means that a gentleman may wear his tuxedo or dinner jacket with any color tie and cummerbund set. Tuxedos and dinner jackets come in many colors and styles, making it easy to coordinate with the colors chosen by your bride.
Although these directions are for a wedding, it is clear that any color dinner jacket is appropriate when wearing a tuxedo.
Enjoy your cruise.
Beth
cactuslady
November 3rd, 2004, 12:21 PM
Although these directions are for a wedding, it is clear that any color dinner jacket is appropriate when wearing a tuxedo.
Just please spare us the powder blue with matching ruffled trim on the shirt. :eek:
Stevesan
November 3rd, 2004, 12:40 PM
George,probably doesnt matter but we were on a B2B and did not see one white tuxedo. TOM
You missed mine.:confused:
gizmo
November 3rd, 2004, 12:41 PM
Just please spare us the powder blue with matching ruffled trim on the shirt. :eek:
How about lime green? :D
LAFFNVEGAS
November 3rd, 2004, 01:09 PM
George, Go for the White one. If that is the one you are comfortable in, you will feel your best and will obviously have more fun. I agree that I don't think it matter what time of the year espeically for the fact you will be in warm climate.
Enjoy the Westerdam we will be boarding her in just 130 days:p
RaffinOrganGrinders
November 3rd, 2004, 02:02 PM
Hello George- I have a question... When you say a white tux, do you mean a completely white tux--jacket and pants--or do you mean a white dinner jacket and black pants? Either way, in the tropics, white or cream is fine.
Pat.
Pat,
It is off white, dress cloth, black slacks with stripe.
George
peaches from georgia
November 3rd, 2004, 02:25 PM
My DH has worn a white dinner jacket once or twice, but you see very very few. I think the classic black tux looks better on most men anyway.
sail7seas
November 3rd, 2004, 02:30 PM
Oh Peaches.....
To MY eyes :), when my DH has a wonderful sun-kissed tan, he looks outstanding in his white (cream to be more correct) dinner jacket.
In our vast Caribbean cruise experience, we ALWAYS see a great many dinner jackets in the warm southern waters.....less so in Canada/New England and Europe etc
Beauty is ALWAYS in the eye of the beholder and THIS beholder :) thinks the James Bond white (cream) jacket has a very handsome look.
The handsome Dutch (and other Nationality) Officers certainly look outstanding in their whites IMO
[We were taught that gentlemen should take the lead from the Captain. If the Captain is wearing whites, gentlemen should feel free to wear white. In the Caribbean, HAL Captains (Officers) all wear white all the time.]
Esme
November 3rd, 2004, 02:40 PM
It seems every time DH wears his white jacket, he spills on it. :p :eek:
Myself, I prefer to see him in his black jacket, but then he chooses what HE wants to wear, like most kids do. :D
Roadwork
November 3rd, 2004, 03:01 PM
Black or white would be fine. I stick to black, since the one time I rented the James Bond white jacket I spilled something down the front of it.
peaches from georgia
November 3rd, 2004, 03:15 PM
If any of our spouses looked like James Bond, that would be one thing, but I will make the assumption they don't so will stick with preferring the black tux.
adamsmark
November 3rd, 2004, 03:36 PM
Sails- You say that many men wear white jackets in the Caribbean on formal nights. We are planning on the Maasdam, so should I expect most men will be in either a tux or white jacket? I'm thinking of renting both. How many wear just a suit or sportcoat?
saltydog28
November 3rd, 2004, 03:52 PM
In the words of my mother-that she would shout at me because she was deaf-whenever she saw a man in a white dinner jacket-OOOOOOOO, doesn't he look striking!!!
Pat.
kruzkeen
November 3rd, 2004, 03:54 PM
White dinner jacket is fine year round in the Caribbean. DH often wears a white dinner jacket for Caribbean cruises but black tux for Europe or Canada/New England.
Either is fine.
I agree with the above. However, last summer on the Volendam in Alaska, there were two couples at a table for four next to us. They seemed to be joined at the hip. First formal night both gents were in traditional tuxes. Second night both were in cream jackets with pale red or dark pink (I am not too good with colors) cumberbunds and ties. They looked good. One of the DWs was a formidable type and she might have done their wardrobes.
I only have a black tux. If I could pass for 007 I would get a cream jacket.
Ken
Roadwork
November 3rd, 2004, 04:14 PM
If any of our spouses looked like James Bond, that would be one thing, but I will make the assumption they don't so will stick with preferring the black tux.Bond also wears a black tuxedo not just the white jacket.
After a martini or two, shaken not stirred, I think I look like James Bond, but for some reason Hollywood never offered me a contract. http://boards.cruisecritic.com./images/smilies/smile.gif
RaffinOrganGrinders
November 3rd, 2004, 05:01 PM
Bond also wears a black tuxedo not just the white jacket.
After a martini or two, shaken not stirred, I think I look like James Bond, but for some reason Hollywood never offered me a contract. http://boards.cruisecritic.com./images/smilies/smile.gif
As my departed mother once said, "remember you are no James Bond" (LOL). But a good martini might do the job. Ask me this time next week.
George
sail7seas
November 3rd, 2004, 05:11 PM
Sails- You say that many men wear white jackets in the Caribbean on formal nights. We are planning on the Maasdam, so should I expect most men will be in either a tux or white jacket? I'm thinking of renting both. How many wear just a suit or sportcoat?
Many men wear suits and look fine. Wearing a dark suit 'follows the rules' but IMO they look like any businessman (who dresses in suits daily) going off to work. My DH has to wear a suit (almost) every day.
There are always a few who wear sportcoats.
viennacruiser
November 3rd, 2004, 05:26 PM
My DH wore a white dinner jacket on our last cruise and he looked very nice indeed, ;) of course as he is a retired Naval Officer he felt comfortable in that look.:) :) ...
Nancy
gizmo
November 3rd, 2004, 05:38 PM
Bond also wears a black tuxedo not just the white jacket.
After a martini or two, shaken not stirred, I think I look like James Bond, but for some reason Hollywood never offered me a contract. http://boards.cruisecritic.com./images/smilies/smile.gif
You should book cabin 007. You may not get a movie contract but all the bartenders will call you Mr.Bond during your cruise.
dakrewser
November 3rd, 2004, 05:57 PM
After a martini or two, shaken not stirred, I think I look like James Bond, but for some reason Hollywood never offered me a contract. http://boards.cruisecritic.com./images/smilies/smile.gif
Are you sure there isn't a contract out on you? :rolleyes:
-dave
dakrewser
November 3rd, 2004, 05:58 PM
Wearing a dark suit 'follows the rules' but IMO they look like any businessman (who dresses in suits daily) going off to work. My DH has to wear a suit (almost) every day.
For those of us who are priveleged to work in our jammies (at least until lunch) every day, getting "dressed up" sometimes means just putting shoes on!
:rolleyes: -dave
palmgirl
November 3rd, 2004, 06:02 PM
You should book cabin 007. You may not get a movie contract but all the bartenders will call you Mr.Bond during your cruise.
Is that why you and Mr. Gizmo always get that room?? :p
elmorejj
November 3rd, 2004, 06:14 PM
In 1996 after doing a Med. cruise, we spent a week in Nice and Monte Carlo. Having dinner one night in the Cafe de Paris we were seated 2 tables over from Roger Moore (aka James Bond #2), the weather outside was a perfect 85 deg. and 007 was wearing a black tux....jean :cool:
cactuslady
November 3rd, 2004, 06:24 PM
If I could pass for 007 I would get a cream jacket.
Ken
I don't think that's necessary. Rather, it's a matter of attitude.
Humphrey Bogart looked perfectly stunning in one (see Casablanca) even though he had a face like a basset hound. :cool:
Keith B.
November 3rd, 2004, 06:27 PM
I have always taken Black and either white or cream (never all 3). However, I have decided to take only one on my next cruise, Black. For the caribbean, white would be fine but if I stain it and the laundry can't get it out....I'm up the perverbial creek for the second formal. And I do like dressing up in the dinner jacket.
gizmo
November 3rd, 2004, 06:38 PM
Is that why you and Mr. Gizmo always get that room?? :pMr.Gizmo claims he will lose in the casino if he is not in that cabin.:rolleyes: At the very minimum the cabin number must have a 7 in it. I can't argue with him, since the only time he lost in the casino was when we were not in a cabin with a 7.
The bartenders always make me laugh with the Bond remarks. On one cruise a bartender addressed us as Mr. and Mrs. Bond the entire cruise. We have had a lot of fun with it and some even get into asking Mr. Bond if he would like his usual, a martini, shaken not stirred.:D
Roadwork
November 3rd, 2004, 07:27 PM
Are you sure there isn't a contract out on you? :rolleyes:
-dave
I am not so sure. At times, I think my brother in law is Ernst Stavro Blofeld in disguise. :D
RuthC
November 3rd, 2004, 07:44 PM
Black tuxedo or white dinner jacket? Does it matter? You'll look mahvalous! So you might as well be comfortable, too.
Go with the white dinner jacket.
sail7seas
November 3rd, 2004, 07:53 PM
For those of us who are priveleged to work in our jammies (at least until lunch) every day, getting "dressed up" sometimes means just putting shoes on!
:rolleyes: -dave
You are a lucky man, Dave. I am sure there are days when DH would love to 'work in his jammies'. :)
There are days he would envy you!!!
Lovebirds
November 3rd, 2004, 08:15 PM
As our cruise on the Prinsendam World Tour will be quite lengthy, (112 nights) and will take us through varied climates, my wardrobe will be a bit more extensive than usual. I have decided to take the black tux, cream dinner jacket, and cumberbund/tie sets in black, blue and crimson. That should keep me from clashing too badly with DW's attire while providing a varied appearance;) I'll also have a dark suit, a sport coat and slacks and an assortment of shirts (white and colors) and ties for the informal and casual evenings. Thank goodness for the Prinsendam's walkin closet. if I'm taking that much, you can imagine what DW will be bringing. I'm glad we drive to the pier. I'm afraid we would cause the airline scales to register TILT if we had to fly.
serendipity1499
November 3rd, 2004, 09:24 PM
George..With Five formal nights (every three days) on the "Westerdam, Farewell to Europe" Cruise my DH would never be able to keep a white dinner Jacket clean..If he spills something on a white jacket & they can't get the stain out the Tux is Kaput...He'll do with a blackTie/cumberbund set & a paisley Tie/Vest set..Checked temps in Europe couple days ago & they are going down..Getting a bit chilly for us Floridians; Lows in the 50's & highs in the 60's most places until we reach Casablanca, then lows 58-66 & highs 70-77..
Have fun planning George...This is my last night to post-PC going to the Computer Doctor tomorrow...Have a good trip to Barcelona & will see you OB..Betty